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First Energy Post - WTI

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#1 Tue, Jun 14, 2011 - 4:58pm
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First Energy Post - WTI

So after some beating down and looking at the chart, I still see very strong support in the $98 to $100 range. It only went lower briefly. What about the next month or so - where do people see crude going? Is anyone bearish or bullish at these prices?

Edited by: Vypuero on Nov 8, 2014 - 5:18am
Tue, Jun 14, 2011 - 5:24pm
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To know where Crude is going,

To know where Crude is going, simply look at Brent, it is a leader and unmanipulated. If it continues to hold or tread higher, then WTIC will follow.

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 - 6:33pm
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Brent

Maybe I should trade Brent instead?

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 - 11:00pm (Reply to #3)
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Range trade if you can or...

Short Brent, Long WTI

If you are real bullish double up on the WTI or drop the Brent short.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 12:29am
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So You All Don't Buy Ilene's "Make Them Buy at $101" Approach?

I got short UCO just before the OPEC meeting last week, and my shit is sitting 90% worthless at the moment -- although I may be green by Friday?! $3.50 in 2 days all over again would do it.

Just curious as I am of the impression that the recent "softening" in WTI was tied to the feelings of impending doom in the S&P and the Dow, end of POMO, "austerity" coming, etc. No doubt the economy is in deep shit (thanks McDs for the jobs!), but while the fundamentals of Oil indicate higher prices (OPEC disintegration, weaker USD leads to higher Oil via inflation, MENA a disaster) it seems like the "market sentiment" has been driving this week.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 1:19pm
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Oil is tanking

Thoughts? Can it hold the $96 to $97 region?

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 1:50pm (Reply to #6)
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Doesn't look good at the moment!

So here's a thought experiment: is our conception of "the norm" for WTI and Brent premised on QEx? That is, if we're "not printing money anymore", is the real market value closer to 75 or something?

Alternatively, is this squeeze on Crude prices a result of the Mandat de Fearless Leader that oil speculators would be punished? Haven't we seen that before? Our foes have limitless capital -- something I forget from time to time. Maybe prices will jump again after OpEx?

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 1:54pm (Reply to #7)
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Holy Moly

I didn't even look at the Crude price this morning (shame on me) and it looks like the FED is getting what it wants. Big drops in Crude, small in equities. nearly 5% drop in oil today only 2 in stocks. Looks like 85 is the target? Anybody else have some thoughts?

"it's game over man, game over!"
Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 1:57pm
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I really don't know but it

I really don't know but it looks bloody out there. It did dip under $95 then went back over, so that could be resistance but its too early to tell.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 2:04pm (Reply to #9)
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Is that a confirmation of 95 as resistance?

?

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 2:07pm
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bounced to $96

so here is hoping it is, since I am long 2 contracts now

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 2:15pm
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WOW

You can't turn your back for 5 mins on this market. The EE is having its way with oil, I just hope PM don't follow the miners down ;)

"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore."
Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 9:46pm
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The number to watch was $97.50

Major breech today. Nothing but down from here.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 9:19am (Reply to #13)
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85 end game?

or lower?

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Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 9:40am
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Well if may be bad for the

Well if may be bad for the Longs but sounds good for those on Social Security limited income.

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Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 2:19pm
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I am out - took my losses now

I am out - took my losses now this is too ugly to stay in.

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