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Eric O's Favorite Gold Miners

Currently holding the following and trying to sort out my own thoughts about them.  Keep them?  Dump them?

As I review my own DD over the next few days I'll post my thoughts but in the meantime I'm very much interested in what you all think about these.  Thanks in advance.

New Gold

Allied Nevada

AuRico Gold (formerly Gammon)

Lake Shore Gold

Kirkland Lake Gold

Timmins Gold

Argonaut Gold

Brigus Gold

Claude Resources

Bralorne Gold

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Just to give you a post here

Just to give you a post here Eric - I have Allied Nevalda Gold (at $18) and Goldcorp ($45)

do you know anything about TLR?

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what no brownies?

I only own two. ANV and NGD. I made nice runs both times when I bought them and sold them. I presently bought back ANV @ 29 and NGD @10

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Sorry Vypuero

TLR is totally new to me.  "Can't own 'em all"

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gold miners

Forgot to include my list

AAU

ADM

AGI

AXU

CGT

GG

EGO

AEM

FNV

MFN

PG

PVG

KOR

SWD

BYV

ICI

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@eric

BTW, I just noticed you prolific record of posts to hat tip ratio so I posted this to the Admin.

It may be interesting to not only keep track of the number of hat tips a poster gets but also the ratio of hat tips to the number of posts the poster makes. Like a batting average with the number of at bats. You can have category leaders with  a minimum of 100 , 500 and 1000 posts.

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New Gold (NGD)

Market cap of about $3.7B.  2011 production guidance of 380,000 to 400,000 ounces.  More to come in 2012.  Pierre Lassonde is on the Board.  Pierre is a legend in the mining business, and probably the best way to get the case for the stock is to listen to his KWN interview from February.  His comments about NGD start around the 10:25 mark, but I recommend the whole interview.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/2/23_Pierr...

Here's the current corporate presentation:

http://http://www.newgold.com/Theme/NewGold/files/documents_presentation...

Bottom line for me is that there's no way I can walk away from this stock at current prices.  No Way.

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Here are a few more names

GWY

SXG

APE

LEX

OOO

MGH

FVI

CFM- watching this one, Red Lake, lots of action been taking place in this lately.

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Cookies and Lemonade

I came here cuz I was promised cookies and lemonade. Well where is it?  Don't tell me cookie monster beat me here!

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It's the old bait and switch buddy.  You got owned!  cheeky

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Looks like a pretty good list

Looks like a pretty good list Eric, however I notice that you have ignored the Yukon.

Will be some big movers there this summer imo.

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Kaminak

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Not ignoring, it's just that the list above are all currently producing.  That was the focus of that list, though I guess I didn't make that clear.  I own Kaminak.  I have a post or two about it in this thread:

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/basket-miners-do-you/574

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to Eric about Brigus Gold

The history and management  of Brigus has been a long time question for me.   Questions about it go to 1998 Pegasus Gold, then Appollo Gold plus Linear to Brigus.   There seemed to be lots of misdirected monies and heavy management payouts along the line.   Then it goes on to Calais Resources (Caauf) and maybe to FAU.    I'm glad you opened this up as I am trying to be informed and hopefully someone will have some better insight.

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Allied Nevada (ANV)

About $2.7B market cap.  2011 production should be around 120,000 ounces.  ANV's been showing up on several lists of "most overpriced" miners lately.  Not to worry, the market is just starting to price in the spectacular growth that ANV will put on the board in the next few years.  Production of slated to double by 2013, and that's just the beginning.  The Milling Project is expected to send production soaring to ​1 million ounces of gold equivalent​ by about 2015.  Silver fans should note that HALF of that will be silver!

Working from memory now, I believe the capex on the Milling Project is around $1B, but I read someplace where management was talking about where the money will come from, a lot of it from operational cash flows on the already doubled production after 2013 I think, and it all seemed to make sense to me.  I'm not worried about dilution.

Management is basically all the old Kinross guys circa 2005, so these are professionals who know how to get big things done.

For those who like to buy juniors with a property or two in Nevada, be advised that ANV has more going on in Nevada than any 10 penny stocks combined, and are already onto what looks like a very nice discovery at Hasbrouck.

Bottom line is here is another one that I cannot, will not, walk away from at todays washed out prices.

Here's the most recent presentation:

http://www.alliednevada.com/investors/pdf/1105-anv-corporate-update.pdf

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Brigus Gold (BRD)

Main Man seems to have some reservations about management here.  I'm all ears.  There does seems to be something of a checkered past, but the Black Fox Mine ​is up and running now, and that can't be denied.  They expect to be up to a steady state of 100,000 oz per year production by the end of the third quarter of this year.  Market cap is around $300 million, which seems to be a decent value for that kind of production.  Also on the plus side, the chart has been looking pretty decent.  Holding up pretty well in the face of the disaster in the mining sector.  Relative strength counts for a lot in my book.  BRD is +10% over the last month, while the GDXJ is -10%.

There's also the Goldfields Project in Saskatchewan.  A production decision is expected soon.  They are contemplating something like 70,000 oz per year, starting maybe 2013.

On the minus side, Sandstorm owns a 12% royalty stream on the Black Fox.  So you might as well mark Black Fox down from 100k to 88k production right off the top.  This kind of thing pisses me off.  While it's great for Sandstorm, I don't think it speaks well of Brigus' management that they would have ever done such a thing.

Back on the plus side, much of the best drilling lately is at the "147 Zone", just 4km away from the main mine, and ​outside ​of the clutches of Sandstorm.

One more on the minus side, their main corporate offices are in Halifax, Nova Scotia.  WTF?  How many serious miners do you know that have their offices in Nova Scotia?

Also on the minus side, there seems to be an awful lot of warrants out.  Fully diluted market cap is more like $420 million.

Here's their presentation:

http://www.brigusgold.com/pdf/2011-05-27%20AGM%20FINAL.pdf

Bottom line, I've got some mixed emotions here.  Any help out there?

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More on Brigus

This guy at Motley Fool sure seems to love it.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/06/17/why-i-doubled-down-on-b...

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Allied or Minera

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New Gold

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Bottom line for me is that there's no way I can walk away from this stock at current prices.  No Way.

I've owned New Gold since just before the interview on KWN and it's done very well, I don't plan on buying any more but I also don't plan on selling it any time soon either!

I've been interested in either buying Allied Nevada, which you mentioned in your post, or Minera Andes. Allied seem to be the safer bet but if Minera were to find a large deposit somewhere near the Goldcorp site then they'd be a prime target for a take-over; which could send the stock way up.

Thoughts?

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Tha t guy from Motley Fool - Chris, Is someone I contact alot.  He is a source of information I cannot get on my own.  He knows CEO's and he makes trips to the headquaters of all of the miners he follows.  I think he is awesome, ask him questions and he will answer you, tell you what he knows.  Here is his Blog on The Motley Fool:

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewBlog.aspx?t=01006124249416869148

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Allied Nevada vs Minera Andes

I own both.  I didn't list Minera here because I consider it a silver miner, and this  thread is for gold miners.

Besides that, I view them as completely different kind of bets.

With ANV, the gold and silver ​is there.  ​The drilling is done.  ​The plan is in place.  It is largely an exercise in financing and construction at this point.

With Minera, we don't know for sure if there's something there of the size that you are hoping for.  You said it yourself when you said "if​ Minera were to find a large deposit near the Goldcorp site."  Sure, the odds seem good, but drilling is never a sure thing.

So, like I said, I own both, but for different reasons.

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Any discussion of Minera Andes has to consider the impending merger with U.S. Gold.  Forum thread a few days ago:

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/merger-us-gold-minera-andes/111

I own UXG too.  cheeky

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Agreed

Agreed - Chris is great and extremely accessible.  Always willing to help educate people on metals and mining.  I've learned quite a bit from him.

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take overs

Are mining producers such as EGO, MFN, GORO and  ANV too large to be taken over by larger companies. I believe what Sinclair and Norcini say that juniors with deposits are ripe to be bought out. What about these larger, money making miners? I would ask the same question about some of the silver ones as well. SVM, and Fresnillo.

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With the smaller guys, it's oftentimes part of the plan to find a deposit and then shop it around for a buyer.  The small guys often don't have the access to financing and development expertise to bring something big to production, so that means that it's fertile ground for the majors to get access to some big finds at a good price.

With a bigger company, I wouldn't say they are "too big" to get bought, but how often are they available at the really attractive terms/prices that the majors crave?  Usually only in a tough bear market.  The majors don't like to pay fair market value for anything.  They like to steal stuff at bargain prices, which in my opinion, is what they do to the juniors with some regularity.  There is a conspiracy school of thought that a lot of this vicious naked shorting of the juniors lately is being orchestrated by some of the majors in order to drum up some bargain purchase opportunities.

My opinions are colored by my experiences.  We like to read about how so-and-so miner got bought out for a ton of money.  But more often, for me, I own something that finds a really nice find, and then they end up giving it away to a major for a song.  Bah!

I like the small to mid-size producers.  These are the guys who had the balls to plunge ahead, get to production on their own, and tell the majors to stuff it along the way.

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Thanks for your take. Interesting thought that the majors are shorting the miners as well in addition to the Fed's primary dealers (crooks) and the hedge goons.

All my miners are green today, yea! BTW, remember I mentioned GORO two days ago? Only went up 20% since then!

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Kirkland Lake Gold (KGILF) (KGI in Canada)

Market Cap of around $1B.  Current production running at a rate of 120,000 per year, ramping up to 200,000 over the next couple years.  The sizzle on this one is the location.  One of the preeminant old Canadian gold camps, The Kirkland Lake Camp historically produced something like ​40Million ounces ​of gold.  They've consolidated the best part of the camp, 5 historic mines that accounted for more than half of the total, with all infrastructure in place.  The best place to find gold is where it's been found before.  Any gold left?  They are drilling like mad, finding gold all over the place.  How does 8 ounces per ton over 46 feet grab you?  Here's a snippet from the May 24, 2011 news release:

“This is a world class intersection. Although the Company does not routinely announce the assays of drill holes which pierce existing reserve or resource blocks, this particular drill hole deserves some attention. The combination of grade and width would make this intersection the richest in the 100 year history of the Kirkland Lake Camp,” said Stewart Carmichael, Chief Exploration Geologist.

Another way to play the area is with Queenston Mining.  More acres, less historic production,  no current production, and about half the market cap.  

Here are the corporate presentations from both Kirkland and Queenston:

http://klgold.com/pdf/reports/KGI_MAY_17_2011_Presentation.pdf

http://www.queenston.ca/investors/pdf/qmi-corporate-presentation.pdf

​I love the whole concept of these old Canadian underground gold camps getting another day in the sun.  This is a keeper.

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I'd stay away from Mai for

I'd stay away from Mai for now. I don't think the pending merger with USGold will do any favors for Mai shareholders.  All USGold really brings to the table is their Gallo silver property which is years from production.

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Thanks!

Thanks for this thread Eric. Looking to start dipping my toes into miners a bit and this info is very helpful. As a newbie to this part of the market, what would be your rough market-cap definitions for small, medium & large?

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Argh: Looks like I missed this thread by a day . . .

My miners list on my trading watch list is green baby green.  Was keeping powder dry and missed this boat.

Thanks for the excellent work in this thread nonetheless, something for me to pay closer attention to with price alerts.

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I get the feeling that a lot of people on this blog focus on small cap miners, from just a few million up to maybe $500 million.  Personally I'd still count them as small cap up to maybe $1 Billion.  Then Mid Cap from say $1B up to $10B, then big cap after that.  Barrick, for instance, runs about $44B.  These are numbers I'm just coming up with off the top of my head.  Didn't check with any "official" definitions or anything.

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GDXJ has been my benchmark for a while.  34 was serious support all this year.  Broke below it into the 32's in the last couple days, but today reclaimed that hill, closing at 33.99.  I'm very encouraged by this action.  I don't think you've missed anything. 

Like I always say, in the short run anything can happen.  And I mean ​anything.  But give the miners 6-9 months and you'll be kicking yourself that you didn't load up on miners at a GDXJ of 34.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  cool

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