The Kinesis Monetary System


Today we have an update on the rollout of the Kinesis Monetary System, which utilizes physical gold and silver as its foundation. Please be sure to listen to this audio with Tom Coughlin, CEO of Kinesis and our old pal, Andrew Maguire.

We first featured this project back in March so if you need a refresher on what Kinesis is and how it could become a vital new monetary system all while depleting the available supply of physical metal for The Banks, please check this link:

The laying of the foundation continues so Tom and Andy stopped by today for this update. You can find more about Kinesis by visiting its website here: And here are a couple of snapshots of the homepage:

But as we stated back in March, Kinesis much more than simply a new crypto token. Kinesis brings the possibility of hope and prosperity to billions of people worldwide who have been impoverished by the current, debt-based monetary system. All the while, physical gold and silver flowing into Kinesis should provide an extraordinary stress for The Bankers' current fractional reserve and derivative pricing scheme.

So, if you'd like to participate, first do a thorough job of your own due diligence. If this seems interesting and if this fits into your own, personal risk parameters, then consider hitting the links to find out more information. Regardless, let's all hope that Tom, Andy and everyone else involved in Kinesis is successful in this venture as any help in defeating The Banks and ending their fractional reserve and derivative pricing scheme is greatly appreciated.



Jun 14, 2018 - 8:18pm

Fact check

Yesterday I suggested those interested in money check out the 15 minute chart on Kirkland Lake Gold. This is an Eric Sprott company and known to this group thru Turd’s Friday interviews.

The July 20 calls were up 31.25% today—- that is 24 hours. I only have $10,000 of those as expiration is only 36 days in the future. But since KL was up another forty cents to $20.40 all the call options were up a lot. My October 30s were up 360% just today. It is reasonable safe to put big money in options in October since it is 127 days in the future.

As they always say, this is not investment advise. Do your research and place your bets based upon your own thinking. My information is accurate; check it out based upon my post last night. Look at that 15 minute chart and be prepared to see some down days.

Jun 14, 2018 - 7:45pm

specific questions for tom, ok, but he didn't even answer yours

I had several very nicely worded questions for Tom YEARS ago when he was promoting ABX as the soon to be online physical-only Gold exchange that was going to disrupt everything currently offered in the Gold community.

He never answered any of my questions because I asked for specifics about where the gold would be and how it was accounted for as i recall. Come to find out, also as i recall, it was little different then current Phyzzless exchanges.

Turd you asked several questions in the podcast- Can you cite one Question in this interview that you asked and received a straight understandable answer to??? If so, please point me to the timestamp so i can hear it.


or... Tom: Where is the Gold held?

Tom: Do you realize that USD transactions also carry physical Silver and Gold with them?

Tom: Are your transactions actually USD transactions as your currency will be USD valued?

Tom: Do you realize that the USD is the World Currency Standard and that the Global Gold Market is 100% USD valued and that other currencies are only exchangeable for Gold based on their USD exchange ratios?

- - - -

As for Andrew, his Physical to fiat "Gold to China" story creep was discussed openly when noticed here years ago.. all the "agent Andy" stuff, remember?

but ok, Question for Andrew: Please tells us specifically about the Gold going to London from your stories in years gone by. Was it Physical Gold or Fiat "warehouse" gold you were referring to in "massive tonnage" terms?

i. can. do. this. all. day. long. and. they. are. not. going. to. like. it.

Jun 14, 2018 - 7:31pm


I think ABX and Kinesis are legit and this has my support. Precious metals with no storage fees and a yield attached — worth considering for part of your stack.

Jun 14, 2018 - 6:44pm

Perhaps you could cite a few

Perhaps you could cite a few specifics regarding your concerns rather than simple ad hominem attacks regarding "misinformation"?

To that end, Tom often visits these threads. If you'd like to pose some specific questions, he'll likely stop by to address them. Maybe give that a go?

Jun 14, 2018 - 6:29pm
Jun 14, 2018 - 6:08pm

Gold and blockchain

Maybe a crypto backed by gold or silver would work if there was a 100% certainty that a certain ounce of gold or a certain ounce of silver is verified and completely accounted for on the bitcoin or ethereum block chain..I can't see how they could not give 100 public keys to the same ounce( in other words: hypothecate the same ounce) unless there would be a periodic audit of said ounce(s)..

Having said that, I believe that to have a truly decentralized block chain crypto market , we need a more neutral or (from nature) currency like Gold or silver...i believe that Bitcoin is now under control of the bankers and is subject to price capping and is of course attached to the hip to the US dollar

At least with gold or silver, even if it is indeed controlled by the bankers through comex, eventually because of physical demand from the use in the crypto market would overwhelm comex and Lmba .

This would kill 2 birds with one stone as gold would provide the crypto market with a truly decentralized reserve currency and at the same time possibly render the fiat money systems obsolete ..and send the price of gold and silver soaring...

Jun 14, 2018 - 4:34pm

How about that Kinesis system huh?

My analysis is that the Kinesis system is a 100% joke and that nobody in these comments will participate in it or have the first clue how it works.

And that i will likely be called a jerk or worse because I always call B.S. on Andy and Tom's nonsense.

my advice: rather than enduring hours of blabbering, just asked the fellas "Who holds MY Gold in this new system of yours?" Then when they admit that they do, or start blabbering about rinse cycles and blockchains, hang up the phone.

Andrew Maguire used to sell "all the physical Gold going to China from London Vaults" stories. Then one fine Podcast day in his attempt to spread misinformation about another subject mistakenly went into detail about the Gold going to "China" being only warehouse receipted digital Gold. As is actually how it works. And those stories abruptly ended and now he's pushing... Kinesis? good grief.

Who holds the Gold?

Who sets the price?

If both answers aren't YOU DO, then somebody is trying to perpetuate the same dying system just from a different and increasingly ridiculous angle.

TF Metals fan
Jun 14, 2018 - 3:30pm

Congratulations Charlie!

This must mean the metals will take a different turn this time!

PS: apologies if it should have been Charly....

Jun 14, 2018 - 3:24pm


Well, there is FATCA, of course, for the U.S. tax payers. So, no go for me. No crypto, no digital tokens or any other form of digital and institutional Mickey Mouse. ;-) Only gold, silver and currency in a direct/physical ownership, in any amount, is NOT reported to anyone. I have nothing to report here, nothing to report in the EU, being only the U.S. taxpayer. I like it this way.

BTW, just imagine a one-time windfall or wealth tax 10-50-80%, as IMF was suggesting already several times, right? That would be a disaster.

PS: It doesn't mean that I don't like Andy, of course. I wish him the best.

Jun 14, 2018 - 3:08pm

What The Hell! 4th

Lol haven't Done This In A While. Keep Stacking

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