A Chat with Rob Kirby


Earlier today, we had an A2A webinar scheduled with Rob Kirby. Unfortunately, technical issues forced a postponement. Once the issues were resolved, Rob graciously found some extra time and recorded for everyone this very informative podcast. Please have a listen.

The two main issues that I asked Rob to address were these:

  • How will the recent, unprecedented moves in interest rates affect the global interest rate swap and derivative markets?
  • The long-term significance of the Deutschebank silver rigging settlement.

Please take time to listen to this very informative podcast. Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience caused by the technical issues on our end. A2A will return next week in its usual time slot.



Dec 8, 2016 - 4:32pm

1st in Japan

come on Mara --- 4th

Dec 8, 2016 - 4:37pm

Rob Kirby interview

Thanks Turd!!!

Dec 8, 2016 - 4:55pm
Dec 8, 2016 - 5:19pm

What 4th?????

We're Moving On Up For Sure. Keep Stacking

Dec 8, 2016 - 5:21pm

Marchas 4th?

The 12.12 am fix is in!

Dec 8, 2016 - 5:23pm

Fifth! ...and still stacking.

Fifth! ...and still stacking. Given the manipulation headline this morning at ZH, should be some fun times heading our way. Does anyone really think we'll get to see someone swing for this?!? I'm not holding my breath...!

Dec 8, 2016 - 5:26pm


Keep stacking

Angry Chef
Dec 8, 2016 - 5:48pm

I Let You Have It Marchas

I just didn't feel right pulling the trigger.

Dec 8, 2016 - 6:09pm

Traitor Dan / Can you hear me now?

"According to the plaintiffs, records surrendered by Deutsche Bank show traders and submitters coordinating trades in advance of a daily phone call, manipulating the spot market for silver, conspiring to fix the spread on silver offered to customers and using illegal strategies to rig prices. “Plaintiffs are now able to plead with direct, ‘smoking gun’ evidence,’ including secret electronic chats involving silver traders and submitters across a number of financial institutions, a multi-year, well-coordinated and wide-ranging conspiracy to rig the prices,” the plaintiffs said in their filing. The new scheme “far surpasses the conspiracy alleged earlier.” – Bloomberg.com, December 7, 2016"

Dec 8, 2016 - 6:35pm


for president.!!!

Off to listen to, am looking forward to it.

Marchas, the Yahoo pic is awesome!!!!!


Dec 8, 2016 - 6:47pm

That was a good one. Thanks

That was a good one.

Thanks Rob and Turd.

Dec 8, 2016 - 8:28pm


Rob Kirby is incredibly knowledgeable. One of my favorite no-bullshit guys. Thanks for setting this up Turd and Rob!

Dec 8, 2016 - 9:28pm

RK Definitely One of The Best

Thanks for setting the is Turd. Rob Kirby is my all time favorite.

Fred Hayek
Dec 8, 2016 - 11:33pm

I always enjoy interviews with Rob

He always gives of that quintessentially Canadian vibe of being a complete gentleman yet somehow leaving you to suspect that he'd be a great guy with whom to share a few beers. Sort of like a Gordie Howe in the world of finance.

Dec 9, 2016 - 12:12am

The games continue as long as Exchange Stabilization Funds exist

With 20 trillion dollars the ESF will rescue the system, suppress gold forever...and keep the paper markets creditable.

Dec 9, 2016 - 12:43am

Great presentation by Rob

and thanks for your usual excellent interview of letting him tell the story.

Especially the LTCM story which was new to me. Makes one wonder exactly how much is hidden behind the curtain..

James Crighton hindsight101
Dec 9, 2016 - 1:35am

@hindsight101 12:12am post

.... until January 20 - then my man will sort things out - only honesty will be tolerated.


J Siefert
Dec 9, 2016 - 3:26am

Rob certainly knows his stuff

The info. about Italy entering the EU and how Goldmann Sachs and Jim Richards were involved was absolutely excellent. I've heard bits and pieces of it before but never in its entirely like Rob Kirby knows it.

Edit: I'm listening to the podcast again.
Correction: That should be Goldmann Sachs not as I originally said JP Morgan.

Dec 9, 2016 - 6:36am

One of the best A2A yet !

I'm almost glad that you had problems with the live feed because it gave a chance to just let him go...and away he went. I think that if you had had to interrupt for listener questions the dynamic would have been entirely different.

Another masterful job of interviewing Mr, Ferguson !!!!

And THANK YOU Mr. Kirby !!!!! Well done ! I am going to listen twice also.

Dec 9, 2016 - 9:23am

Great A2A Turd

Wow! That was an amazing A2A with Turd and Rob! I am often saddened for the coming despair of paper collapse that will be utterly devastating. Rob Kirby gave us new insights that shook me to the core as I sat drinking coffee looking out over the cliff.

Dec 9, 2016 - 10:07am

Disturbing if true...


Not the idea that Gold goes below $1,000 or lower, but what India is doing. I firmly bought metals believing that it would go to paper zero. Making holding it illegal is the real game...

Angry Chef
Dec 9, 2016 - 10:45am

Armstrong Article

Is disturbing but not unexpected. If Europe starts coming after Gold the way India is. The Euro is toast. It is toast anyway's as it is constructed today. In India. I expect they will turn on Modi and his Central Bankster clowns and hang them soon.

Dec 9, 2016 - 10:53am


Might soon be a good time to short some of the largest jewelry retailers.

I still think Modi is looking to take one in the head.


Be advised, a lawyer in Richmond, VA has already gotten a charge of 'attempted murder' thrown out / reduced to 'malicious wounding' after his client shot a romantic rival six times in the gonads. Trust me on this one....if a government gold grabber gets dick-shot, word will get around fast.

Dec 9, 2016 - 10:57am
Dec 9, 2016 - 11:48am

Me Likey

One of the greatest A2A's ever !

Dec 9, 2016 - 2:17pm

Thank You Gentlemen

Hearing the back story to all this was insightful. I'm not sure that I had an understanding of history leading us to this current pivot position. Thank you so very much.

Joseph Warren
Dec 10, 2016 - 12:29pm

Excellent Interview

as others have mentioned, this gave Rob the opportunity to speak on these matters uninterrupted.

For non TFMR members seeing this public thread & those who may be new to this, Rob Kirby has mentioned the US Treasury ESF (Exchange Stabilization Fund) & its central role in 'market' manipulation many times in the past. He has advised watching this series of videos on this topic -


In addition, IMO its very illuminating to listen to the web broadcasts by Ralph Winterrowd. He explains why what you may think is "your government" is quite different from the reality. The republic, as envisioned by the American founders, was overthrown using legalistic games in 1933. Not surprisingly, this was in the same time period that the American people's gold was stolen and the ESF was established.

As Gerald Celente says - " The merger of state and corporate power is by definition called fascism. "


James Crighton Joseph Warren
Dec 10, 2016 - 1:43pm

Further reading material - Murray Rothbard

Thanks Joe - nice comment.

and, for those interested in broadening their understanding of the interaction between state and the economy may I recommend as essential reading the works of that brilliant person, Murray Rothbard - and one could do worse than begin with his "What has Government Done to Our Money" - which can be bought for a dollar or two on Amazon or downloaded free as a podcast from the Mises Institute website (mises.org) here:


He writes concisely and clearly - a pleasure to read and listen to.


Joseph Warren
Dec 10, 2016 - 6:52pm

@James Crighton

thanks for posting the link. That work by Murray Rothbard is essential reading for anyone wanting to understand the nature of money.

Joseph Warren
Dec 11, 2016 - 2:19pm

This Won't End Well

Turdites - Rather than overly complicate this public thread, I started a new thread in the Preppers & Stackers section of the members forums. I would love to hear your ideas on some of the subjects brought up by Rob Kirby. Thank you.

- JW

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