A Political (but not apolitical) Thread

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In the hope of maintaining sanity...and keeping the other threads on-topic...here's a new thread where you can discuss politics all weekend long. Please use this post for that purpose.

Last evening, I found myself in the car. While I usually use car time as an escape...where I listen to music or sports radio...last night I found the radio tuned to The Mark Levin Show. Again, I don't usually listen to this program but I found myself interested in the discussion. Today, I went to the Mark Levin Show website (https://www.marklevinshow.com) and found the recorded podcast.

This recording begins with a discussion of the U.S. Constitution featuring current Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. From there, it segues to the observations of Alexis de Tocqueville and Levin's own statement that the U.S. has transitioned into a form of "post-Constitutional soft tyranny". All of this combines to explain the Trump candidacy and why it may succeed.

With the U.S. election just 11 days away, I thought that this audio was something that many folks here would find insightful and relevant. Please give it a listen and then, as mentioned above, let's try to keep the inevitable "political" comments confined to this thread for the weekend.

TF

  324 Comments

lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 1:00am

@BN

I care

edit: we all do

BIGNASTY
Oct 30, 2016 - 1:10am

Lake..........

Do you really intend to vote for Hillary? Do you really believe that she is morally or in ANY way better for the job than The Donald? If so PLEASE explain, I don't get it. By the way I would campaign for the local dog catcher before Trump.

lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 1:35am

@ BN

I want to break the corruption. I don't think either candidate will do that. Hillary is the obvious for voters and Trump is the sucker play. Third party is a loser and write in won't happen. I think cabinet selections and agency appointments would be the indicator, but unknown in advance. Both will put Wall Street in key positions...same old stuff. I trust Craig and some others, so just trying to survive. The best way to deal with this situation is to put some people in jail. If that doesn't happen, then this doesn't stop.

edit: I don't want to vote for either, but I want to vote. I wrote in Ron Paul last time.What good was that.

BIGNASTY
Oct 30, 2016 - 1:43am

Lakedweller............................

if you truly think that Cankles IS the VOTERS choice then so be it, you show your intellectual and emotional IQ. I can sleep with that if you can...........

If you want to truly BREAK the corruption and support Hillary you sir are a M_R_N.

Bill and Hill should have been in Leavenworth 20 years ago by any patriots standard. Mills, Cheney, Podesta, Kissinger, Bush, Sotero and others , not far behind............

SilveryBlue lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:09am
lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:11am

BN

Neither. Impeachment hearings have always been the answer to bring it all in the open but Congress made that "mistake" with Watergate" and people went to jail. They learned their lesson and we took a step lower.

BIGNASTY
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:15am

Pearls......................................

before swine.....................

lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:20am

@silvery

Trump advisors don't compute with anything new. Same old people with same old agenda. Wishful thinking but it appears to be just an alternative "con". I will work on it. ..

Rvrider
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:22am

Decision tree to select a presidential candidate, or none at all

Do you want the bankers to stop manipulating the financial markets, including gold? Trump +10; Clinton -10

Do you want the 1st and 2nd Amendments hammered? Clinton 20; Trump -20

Do you like weekly charges of corruption headlining the news? Clinton 10; Trump 1 (the media has an axe to grind, mountains out of molehills)

Do you want daily charges that brash and rude remarks coming out of the Whitehouse? Trump 10; Clinton 1 (the alt-media has an axe to grind)

Do you want an escalation of wars, ultimately leading to direct confrontation with Russia? Clinton +20; Trump +0 (he want to make a deal, including a great deal of money)

Do you like the idea of bringing Royalty back into our culture because you miss King George? Clinton +50; Bush (write in) +50; Trump 10 (he has a big family waiting in wings and his family is unknown)

Do you like to watch riot videos? Trump +50; Clinton 0

Do you want to poke the establishment Democrats, Republicans, 0.1% and the UN in the eye? Trump 1000; Clinton -1000

Would you rather find the answer in the bottom of a bottle? NONE OF THE ABOVE

SilveryBlue lakedweller2
Oct 30, 2016 - 2:42am

Not Trump advisers.

Independent people who are thinking of a way forward imho

edit: and a way to break the corruption. Exactly the way Putin is breaking it in Russia. Exactly the way Xi is breaking it in China (not mentioned, but I can connect dots )

Dr. P. Metals
Oct 30, 2016 - 4:04am
Safety Dan
Oct 30, 2016 - 4:49am
Safety Dan
Oct 30, 2016 - 5:20am

BREAKING: DOJ BLOCKS FBI from

BREAKING: DOJ BLOCKS FBI from receiving warrant to retrieve wieners emails

As of Saturday night, the FBI was still in talks with the Justice Department about obtaining a warrant that would allow agency officials to read any of the newly discovered Abedin emails, and therefore was still in the dark about whether they include any classified material that the bureau has not already seen.

“We do not have a warrant,” a senior law enforcement official said. “Discussions are under way [between the FBI and the Justice Department] as to the best way to move forward.”

That Comey and other senior FBI officials were not aware of what was in the emails — and whether they contained any material the FBI had not already obtained — is important because Donald Trump’s campaign and Republicans in Congress have suggested that the FBI director would not have written his letter unless he had been made aware of significant new emails that might justify reopening the investigation into the Clinton server.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

WTF ???
I thought they had been viewed. How can they reopen an investigation then if they have not seen anything yet.

The DOJ is the highest criminal organization in the land. Looks like some of the other people talking about the tree of liberty needing watering, may be right.

https://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-doj-blocks-fbi-from-receiving-w...

BillD
Oct 30, 2016 - 5:52am

True Words...

8h8 hours ago

When you're getting flak -- it means you're over the target.

Keg
Oct 30, 2016 - 7:22am

Trying to understand FBI Director Comey

Pondering Comey's actions for the past 18 months I really wonder what is going on in his mind. I have arrived at 3 theories:

1. Comey was intimidated and/or bought off by the Obama administration and Clinton into covering up as best he could for Clinton. Clintons have plenty of money to throw around. Obama's involvement here is greater than reported so he needed this covered up also. That would be tough to fight against for most people. He was forced into doing something now because of upcoming Wikileak releases and this is the least damage he could do. All will be buried after the election.

2. Comey is an incompetent boob. Too stupid to realize the depth of the corruption. Just wanted it to go away as he did not want to be known as the guy that influenced an election.

3. Comey is brilliant. He goes along with the cover up until the time is right. Democrats loves him. Republicans attack him. Democrats attack Republicans for saying Comey did not do his job. Now he is maneuvering for the kill. Democrats looks stupid attacking him after praising him. Since both sides have now attacked him he looks like a guy doing his job.

Real truth might be somewhere between.

Keg
Oct 30, 2016 - 7:24am

Best picture of the election

Huma crying when she hears news of the reopened FBI investigation. Hillary looking for a bus to throw her under.

J Siefert
Oct 30, 2016 - 7:43am

Election prediction

I predict that when the results come out there will be a shortage of eggs.

Reason - Donald will win so convincingly that the main stream media will end up with so much egg on their faces chickens will have a job producing them.

benque
Oct 30, 2016 - 8:19am

Do the weenocrats

intend to claim that THE RUSSIANS pulled weiner's weiner out, and forced him to selfie it? I would not be at all surprised if they do. Weiner: "the devil made me do it, the stinkin lousy russian devil!"

edit: I can just imagine the front page of the NY Times: Full page photo of weiner's ugly mug (sans weiner), with banner headline screaming" "Putin pulled my weiner!"

BillD
Oct 30, 2016 - 8:58am

Kim Dotcom

5h5 hours ago

US DOJ and Loretta Lynch have lost all credibility in the Clinton criminal case.

FBI wants to do the right thing.

gold way p
Oct 30, 2016 - 10:20am

War

The most important thing anyone with a modicum of animal intelligence who watched the last debate should know when Hell talked mean and suspiciously about Putin it might mean she wants to bring war to America and this would ruin life on the planet, just saying.

Keg
Oct 30, 2016 - 10:25am
Rvrider
Oct 30, 2016 - 10:48am

@ Safety Dan

Re: "I thought they had been viewed. How can they reopen an investigation then if they have not seen anything yet."

It's all about positioning, nothing about truth. Comey's motivation? That's what everyone will be guessing and judging for some time to come.

Rvrider
Oct 30, 2016 - 10:53am

Clinton's challenge was all about positioning

Podesta and Clinton both have demanded the FBI to "Show us what you've got."

1. FBI cannot release emails during an investigation.

2. Clinton and Podesta know that -- it allows them to redirect attention away from the innuendo that Comey has created (from his positioning).

It's all part of the Sh**-Show, nothing to see here narrative.

DPMS308
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:05am

Sigh ...

When you argue with a liberal ... you are going to war with a mentally unarmed combatant. Why waste the time and effort trying to get an individual to reason for which they lack the capacity to do so? It is like trying to teach a pet turtle to roll over.

Ain't going to happen.

Stronger Together - The transition if Hillary steals the election.

Rvrider
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:07am

@Keg

If it's #2, that he did not want to influence the election, he really is a boob! This will be printed in the grade-school history books, written by liberals mostly, as how he stole or tried to steel the election from Queen Hillary.

Maybe # the next possibility: he wanted to be remembered.

Rvrider
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:07am

@Keg

If it's #2, that he did not want to influence the election, he really is a boob! This will be printed in the grade-school history books, written by liberals mostly, as how he stole or tried to steel the election from Queen Hillary.

Maybe # the next possibility: he wanted to be remembered.

Markedtofuture
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:08am

Former FBI Asst. Director Accuses Clintons Of Being Crime Family

Former FBI Asst. Director Accuses Clintons Of Being A "Crime Family"

During a radio interview with John Catsimatidis, former assistant FBI director James Kallstrom heaped praise on Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump before slamming the Clintons. Kallstrom, known for leading the investigation into the explosion of TWA flight 800 in the late '90s, said on Sunday that Bill and Hillary Clinton are part of a “crime family” and argued top officials hindered the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was secretary of State. He also accused Hillary Clinton of being a “pathological liar.”

The Clintons, that’s a crime family. It’s like organized crime, basically. The Clinton Foundation is a cesspool." Kallstrom added that “It’s just outrageous how Hillary Clinton sold her office for money. And she’s a pathological liar, and she’s always been a liar. And God forbid if we put someone like that in the White House."

Going off on a tear, Kallstrom also blasted Attorney General Loretta Lynch, claiming that she impeded the investigation into Clinton’s private server.

“The problem here is this investigation was never a real investigation,” he said. “That’s the problem. They never had a grand jury empanelled, and the reason they never had a grand jury empanelled, I’m sure, is Loretta Lynch would not go along with that.”

The ex-FBI official, who praised Donald Trump as a “good human being” and “patriot,” also went after his former employer. “This investigation was never a real investigation,” he said.

“They never had grand jury empaneled. And the reason … was that Loretta Lynch would not go along with that. So this investigation was without the ability to serve subpoenas, serve search warrants, and obtain the evidence that they ended up begging for. It was just ludicrous what went on,” he added.

Kallstrom said that the FBI “left so much stuff on the table,” but he defended the agents on the case. “This is not the FBI agents who’s to blame for this fiasco going on. This is the leadership. This is Jim Comey … The agents are furious with what’s going on. I know that for a fact,” he said.

* * *

Kallstrom's bashing of the Clinton's followed another interview he gave last night with Judge Jeanine PIrro to discuss the latest announced FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton, in which he said "I think there’s something happening. People are asking me what is this about. I think something big is going to happen. I don’t know what it is. It’s just my gut feeling. I think so.

Judge Jeanine: So he wouldn’t have come out unless he knew it was coming out?

James Kallstrom: Well, I think he couldn’t hold onto it any longer. OK. Because who knows? Maybe the locals would have stepped in on this.

Judge Jeanine: …I think he had to do it.

Interview....https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/former-fbi-asst-director-accuses-clintons-being-crime-family

BarnacleBill
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:15am

Comey "no warrant" - Can do "nothing"

MSM declares him a buffoon and the latest scandal is "over". Pick any of your MSM outlets this morning and that's the message. Nothing to see here.

It is obvious that Comey is a deep cover mole for Trump. Several years ago he somehow managed to anticipate the current election crisis, ingratiate himself with the Obama inner circle and Justice Department, and maneuver himself to be selected for appointment to Director, FBI. After providing several years of excellent cover for Obama and Clinton (including immunity for everyone concerned, no subpoenas for pertinent records or testimony under oath, and nolo prosecuritae announcement in July), he waits until eleven days before the Selection to unleash a leaked memo indicating that his Weiner Probe has penetrated an area that includes heretofore unknown emails that require him to investigate further. This jab temporarily stunned the Clinton campaign and the MSM, inciting anger and righteous indignation at the depraved depths to which the Donald AND Putin will go to unjustly influence the integrity of the sacred American democratic election process.

Luckily, MSM/Clinton have recovered sufficiently to go on the offensive to thwart yet another right-wing conspiracy in time to put the rightful heir to the Presidency in place so that all of us little people in the US may be "taken care of" as we should.

2c piece
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:27am

Media reports of Chicago's murder rate are embellished

Media reports of Chicago's murder rate are embellished. It can be shown that half of them are voting.

canary
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:33am

Jameys Comey's motivation

A bad referee after penalizing one team with a wrong call, often looks for an opportunity to penalize the opposite team to balance the game and to safe his/her face.

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