William Cohan on with Dr. Janda


Our pal and loyal Turdite, Dr. Dave Janda, took up the cause on Sunday and invited journalist/author William Cohan onto his radio program. Yes, that William Cohan...the guy who has written the expose on silver manipulation that, so far, has not been published by any "mainstream" outlets.

If you don't know what the fuss is all about, I suggest you start by reviewing this post from last week:


In short, it was brought to our attention that Mr. Cohan had been contacted by Andrew Maguire and his attorneys in the days following the sudden closure of the latest CFTC "silver manipulation investigation". Mr. Cohan then wrote a detailed expose and summary of the evidence that the CFTC had chosen to ignore. However, when Cohan began to shop the article for publication, he could find no outlets within the mainstream media that were willing to take it.

Many of you chose to contact Mr. Cohan and ask him to address these issues. Partly because of your efforts, Mr. Cohan agreed to be a guest Sunday on Dr. Janda's weekly radio program, "Operation Freedom". (https://www.davejanda.com/operation-freedom)

The 25-minute interview is wide-ranging and very interesting. Cohan was open and forthright while he discussed several items of interest including:

  • Cohan's interpretation of the evidence that Andrew Maguire presented to him
  • Former CFTC commissioner Bart Chilton told Cohan directly that he thought the silver market was manipulated
  • After the CFTC closed it's investigation, Andrew Maguire took the material to two other government agencies but both agencies declined to investigate further
  • Cohan shopped his completed article to two mainstream media outlets, both of which declined to run it
  • Cohan has offered to take the story to ZeroHedge to get it published but Andy and his attorneys have yet to give him authorization to do it.

And so here we are. If I can come up with any other details in the next few days, I will certainly let you know. In the meantime, please give this podcast a listen. The first half is the conversation between Dr. Janda and Mr. Cohan. The second half is simply Dr. Janda and his opinion on these and other current events.



Sep 28, 2014 - 10:05pm

We deserve an explanation from Andrew Maguire...

It seemed to me from the start that there's info he's holding back here and more to this story than we've been let in on. I'd like to know why ZH isn't good enough for AM and why he's preventing this story from being published.

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:11pm

Harvey's Up! (TFMR)

Harvey's Up! https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/624414#comment-624414

  • Andrew Maguire: We need to start from the beginning. First let’s look at why and then how gold price suppression has been enabled right under the regulators noses as it fully explains why we are trading in the 12s not the 16’,18’, 19’.s or higher. First the why...You have had many reputable guests on that have provided detailed reasoning as to why the Fed, working through its agent banks, needs to suppress gold. Chris Powell of GATA has drawn attention to swathes of irrefutable hard copy evidence of this, and I suggest any doubters go with an open mind to the GATA site and spend a fruitful hour looking through this auditable information. I am absolutely sure this valuable resource has also been used by sovereigns and CB’s too and greatly influenced their desire to accumulate gold. Understanding this suppression exists enables these powerful entities to accumulate gold under the radar. We have seen a massive shift of western gold reserves to the East.
  • Mark O'Byrne (GoldCore): Back in late 1979 and early 1980, some of the key drivers that propelled the gold price higher were the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and the Iranian hostage crisis. Just looking back at old newspaper gold market commentaries in 1979 and 1980 will highlight that a lot of the key drivers for the rise in the gold price at that time were geo-politically related. Today, the world appears to be as uncertain if not more uncertain. Indeed, in 1980 there was little risk of terrorism - state sponsored or otherwise. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the gold futures markets did not have nearly as large an impact on the world gold price as they does now, and the gold price was primarily driven by physical demand for gold, a lot of which was Middle Eastern and Asian demand. Fast forward to today, and the 'flight to quality' and 'financial insurance' characteristics of gold should in theory be as important now as they were in 1979-1980 given similar invasions and occupations in various countries, not least in the Middle East with ISIS, and the renewed bombing in Syria/Iraq by the US and/or a US coalition. The key driver of the gold price at the moment is perceived to be the relative strength of the US dollar, yet the US dollar is only stronger compared to the other main currencies because these currencies, such as the Euro, are weak due to their economies remaining weak and their money supplies having been debased. It would appear to us that the factors that would make gold a safe-haven asset have not gone away.
  • Harvey: GLD: There was no change in gold inventory at the GLD (inventory now at 773.45 tonnes). SLV: Today there was no change in silver inventory (inventory 345.244 million oz). GOFO is positive and increasing.
  • DS: Bill Haynes says he has one client who wants to buy $40 million in gold (1 tonne). Apparently there are many billionaires out there that made their money in the stock market and don't even own an ounce of gold. If the market starts down, they will sell and move into something. With money printing like it is, gold will surely get some of it. If these guys start moving into physical gold, the supply will not last very long. Of course, they might get a phone call like T. Boone Pickens and Warren Buffet did, and told to cool it with energy (Pickens) and the metals (Buffett).
  • Chris Powell: Egon von Greyerz notes increasing evidence of the onset of a worldwide depression. Harvey: Von Greyerz sees a worldwide depression due to the massive amount of debt accumulated. DS: Von Greyerz thinks the depression will last a long time.
  • Frank Tang (Reuters): The London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) said on Thursday it appointed Citigroup as a market maker, underscoring the bank's ambitions to expand into the precious metals sector while others are exiting due to regulatory concerns. LBMA said it named Citibank, a unit of Citigroup, as a spot market-making member effective Thursday. Currently, LBMA has 12 market makers that serve in either one, two, or all three of the spot, forwards, and options markets. They make markets by quoting two-way prices in both gold and silver products to other market makers.
  • Chris Powell: London trader Andrew Maguire says today that the recent pounding of the gold price in the futures markets has resulted in offtake of about 650 tonnes of real metal in the last month.
  • Chris Powell: Fund manager and economist Sandeep Jaitly tells the Mexican financial journalist Guillermo Barba that gold price suppression by central banks will backfire by encouraging people to hoard more metal at discounted prices.
  • Chris Powell: In the first installment of his review of the operations of the new Shanghai International Gold Exchange in Shanghai's free-trade zone, gold researcher and GATA consultant Koos Jansen writes, among other things, that the exchange seems designed to discourage export of gold from China.

All this and more on...

The Harvey Report! smiley



Edward G
Sep 28, 2014 - 10:16pm

Yes, and maybe a follow-up from Ned too

Ned was talking about thatMr Cohan needs to 'defecate or get off the pot'.... Was my laxative email ( Ned I thought you wanted to start a 'movement' haha) sent to the wrong target, as Mr Cohan says he is not the obstacle....? Should I be writing to Andy......?

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:32pm

Silver purchase

I recently sold equities believing the time has come to buy physical gold and silver. At this moment I am looking to purchase silver and looking at several companies and their products. Could a fellow member in Turd's loyal fraternity offer your best advice on 1) which company you look to as being the most trustworthy and reliable, and 2) which products do you think would represent the best value over time, and would also be readily convertible.

Many thanks,

Bently Elliott

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:37pm

Here's a strange one. It

Here's a strange one. It turns out that Andrew Maguire is NOT letting Bill Cohan publish his silver manipulation story!!!

This is totally insane and it can't be tolerated!

My friend Dave Janda has a great interview posted with Bill Cohan where they talk about it here:


I have been putting everything on the line for these FACTS to come out for over 10 years. Silver prices are 100% manipulated by computer programs at large banks trading back and forth with each other to set the price. I've shown how it started, when it happens, who is doing it and how it will end...and yet the CFTC does NOTHING.

Just read this article I wrote in January 2008 and sent to the CFTC at the time...

Who's the Little Man Behind the Curtain?


*Note: EWT, LLC is now called Virtu Financial and had to withdraw their public offering early this year because the NY Attorney General questioned their involvement in COMPUTER MARKET RIGGING...


I blew the whistle on Vincent Viola and EWT, LLC 6 years ago when I discovered they were a little known "Authorized Participant" in the iShares Silver ETF!!! I personally emailed all this information to Bart Chilton and Gary Gensler at the CFTC and they did NOTHING.

Now we have confirmation from Andrew Maguire and two other traders that the big banks rig the silver price by using secret trading programs that tell their co-conspirators where the prices are going to be set and when.

THIS 100% confirms the Road to Roota Theory and can EXPOSE these BASTARDS once and for all yet Andrew Maguire refuses to let Bill Cohan publish his story.

WTF Andrew???

Who's side are you on anyways???

May the Road you choose be the Right Road.

Bix Weir


PS - I am appalled that Andrew Maguire, Bart Chilton and the CFTC have been sitting on this important information since the CFTC hearings on March 25, 2010. They are now part of the conspiracy and all to blame for these past few years of suffering that honest silver investor have had to endure.

Shame on all of you.

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Sep 28, 2014 - 10:39pm


Re-printing the final post from what now seems to be a dead earlier thread:

"Agreed there is something not right here.

According to Cohan's story, he submitted the story IN FULL to two MSM outlets and, perhaps not surprisingly, they declined to publish. At that time, it was suggested that the Article could be published on the net via ZH/Jesse/GATA etc. Apparently, it was only then that AM and his lawyers demurred and also refused to allow publication of certain quotes. It is quite plausible that the terms of the Contract between the Parties did indeed include rights of approval for direct quotations, and possibly even Copyright for the entire Article. What is unclear, however, is why such quotations would be suitable for publication by the MSM in the first instance, but not by independent media outlets on the net?

It does seem to me that the ball is now back in the court of AM and his counsel.

I also wonder why, if there is good reason for a legal impasse, the usual "Journalistic" solution of a well-placed "Leak" allowing for "Plausible deniability" was not employed? Presumably, Cohan has already been paid for his services (Also, publication would be good for his credentials) and AM's intent as stated was simply to get the story out into the public domain. Therefore, in the context of "Cui bono", it is indeed strange that neither side has been able to find ways to get the Article out. As things stand, there is the reasonable appearance that there are other unknown events behind the curtain."

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:39pm

@ Bently

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Sep 28, 2014 - 10:42pm

That's over the top and harsh

I can assure that Andy is NOT "part of the problem".

Let's just wait to see what happens next.

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:43pm
Sep 28, 2014 - 10:49pm

Re: Bix Weir

Any thoughts on Bix Weir's credibility? I'm not sold either way, would love to access the brain pool of turdville for insight. Also Chris Duane. Seems like an interesting character, but haven't done my DD. Superficially I like his message but at times he has struck me as messianic, or over dramatic. Thanks for any input.

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:56pm

a top tenner

I didn't know provident was one of your advertisers. Ad block works wonders. I will click through from now on. And I don't think that was over the top.

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:57pm

@ Bently

Thanks Turd...

Sep 28, 2014 - 10:59pm

Bix is one of the few who

Bix is one of the few who have been talking about the silver manipulation at the right scale of magnitude of it for years.

It's the rest of the blogosphere that have catched up with the real fundos that we're dealing with. Silver IS the Achilles heel of the world financial system.


You can judge by yourself. But the cartel won't go down without a war IMO.

Sep 28, 2014 - 11:03pm


ZH publishes Cohan's piece by weeks end.

Sep 28, 2014 - 11:12pm

And silver is down 1% tonight

Why, exactly?


Sep 28, 2014 - 11:36pm

Why are they hitting silver so hard?

It makes me wonder what role silver will play in the future? I mean the attack on gold has been brutal but the attack on silver has been way more vicious .

Gamble gamble

Sep 28, 2014 - 11:38pm

We Deserve

what we got, a totalitarian socialistic fascist gov, because the free chit army keep voting them in, dems and reps.

remember, it all starts with corrupting moral hazzards ....

Sep 28, 2014 - 11:49pm


they want your silver

Back to AM, I am still waiting for a report on how many poor poor Egyptians he has fed, because he feels so so bad for them caused by inflation export. A book deal sounds about right, because, despite the efforts, and there have been good ones, he still has human traits (he is human, right?) of self-centered greed and lust for fame and money, and is running a business, and obviously, is in it for THE MONEY, of course.

Sep 28, 2014 - 11:50pm
Gamble SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2014 - 11:54pm

Maybe in it for the money

But wouldn't that make him the wise one ? If you can't beat em at least prosper from them ! AM doesn't owe the pm crowd nothing !

He gives an entertaining commentary and for some hope , but I'm guessing that doesn't pay the bills.

gamble gamble

Ps they can have my stinking silver @ 50-80 per ounce.

Sep 29, 2014 - 12:01am

him the wise one

Well it all depends on where your moral compass is, now dont it.

Personally, I kinda liked the guy, who said, give me liberty or give me death.

Sep 29, 2014 - 12:06am

Criminals do what criminals do - crime

Look, we are talking about criminal behavior, rigging markets.

It is huge money, and huge political power at stake. You really think these criminals are all of sudden going to grow a conscience, throw up their hands, "well, shucks, Mr McGuire, you got us. We're sorry. Guess we go to prison now..."

No, they are going to commit more crimes to keep the crime business going. Big crime. Life and death crime. They are immoral criminals. With vast funds, able to do all sorts of heinous deeds, with no trail to them. I imagine Andy was told by his lawyers, "you must back off - if you want to continue living the life you have."

Why do you think newspaper's bury stories. It isn't worth the cost.

This is why it won't change by reform. It will only change when a party outside the system takes it down....Snowden exposed the NSA, he lost his former life. What has changed?

The irony is that those foreign entities that will eventually blow up the criminals is also benefitting from the price suppression.

This is what is so disgusting about the Obama supporters that still fall for his fake good guy schtick. He is so complicit in the crimes that he can only be described as criminal, too....not one financial trial. Not one. joke.

Fred Hayek
Sep 29, 2014 - 12:06am

Wow, great job by Dr. Dave in his interview of Cohan

Maybe Andrew and the other two whistleblowers are still looking at this through the anachronistic prism of the idea that the mainstream media is all that counts. But I think Dr. Dave is right. If you break this story on ZH, it will be picked up by ALL the other alternative media and it will be picked up by media in other countries around the world. They might not get on the half dozen TPTB controlled american media outlets right away or even at all but those companies aren't the gatekeepers they used to be. I can't remember the last time I watched a network, CNN or Fox news show. I buy the Sunday Boston Globe for the sports section. I buy the Sunday New York Times for the book reviews. I buy the Wall Street Journal on Saturday for . . the book reviews. I don't get my news from any of them. For people under 55 or 60, I think that's now the norm.

So . . . these institutions that readers everywhere are routinely sidestepping are forcing the people providing the story to also . . . sidestep them. Big deal.

Gamble SilverSurfers
Sep 29, 2014 - 12:19am

Moral compass

He's a metals trader!

boomer sooner
Sep 29, 2014 - 12:29am

Why can't the people have their own trial?

It seems crazy to me to think that the PEOPLE cannot have a trial using known and public information. Put the regulatory and justice depts on public display in a trial setting. Why do you need a court room or tv? Build a set, use skype, youtube, ect to broadcast. I would bet this would start out in a barn and end up in Jerry World because of the "shock and awe". By getting ALL of the factual information in the public domain of certain departments in an orderly, concise, and fluid manner would let the people/sheeple see how their .gov is protecting them. The information of what has transpired with the banking institutions over the last 10 years would surely wake up some, but because the information is dribbled out on page 25c of the Hoeboken (toilet) Paper, the dots are never put together.

Sorry, but an article on Zerohedge outlining this crap just does not light a fire. Putting JPM/Dimon on public trial with just the info contained in the fines they have paid would get notice.

Sorry for the rant, but damn this burns my ass when info is presented, the investigator believes and the lid is shut with no information released. I'm sure there have been FOIA filings to the CFTC, but I have not heard of any, so the info just sits in a drawer. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggg

Sep 29, 2014 - 1:36am

You know, the answer to all this Horse Crap is staring us in the


Katie had it right. It's not EASY, but it is real. And it's becoming easier as people catch on and enter the frey of reality.

It is easier than ever to grow your own food and be a functioning part of your local community. (The community the world Globalist are trying to destroy)

I spent a little bit of gold today to buy a kit of soil blocker tools.


Eliot Coleman's How to Use Soil Blocks

Previously I've been planting into egg cartons and transfering plants into solo cups. It works well but is time consuming.

This Fall I plan to not direct seed ANYTHING. I will start lettuce and all root crops this way (I'm in S. TX).

Sparticus, the quail and rabbits are doing fine. I was out of town for a few days and the neighbors were happy to gather the 30 eggs a day or so for the effort of checking in on them. It's on my list to make pictures of my little self sustainable urban setting so keep bugging me.


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Sep 29, 2014 - 2:08am

@ bently, re: Silver Purchase

Please allow me to dump a little more into your information hopper for consideration.

Of Turd's list, I've used both Provident and JM Bullion, both with grand success. In addition to that list, I'd recommend considering Goldmart. Looking around, these are the three that I've found to have consistently provided low prices and good service for whatever I happened to be looking for at the time.

No one is perfect, and I had one notable issue with one of these companies which took some diligence to get corrected, but once they realized their error, they certainly made good with a personal apology from the company President, and a 10 oz. Ag bar, gratis. (Ten ounces of silver bought my silence on which company that was!)

Concerning what to buy, well, well, that is a significant question. Here are some thoughts:

  • Someone mentioned that in times past, when prices rose and there was a press to sell, local coin shops ("LCS") took .999 fine silver in preference to junk silver, because of refineries' preference. Hence, that person now restricts his purchases to 1-oz rounds.
  • However, uniform, modern pieces can probably be counterfeited more cost-effectively than small junk silver (although I have, with my own eyes, seen a very good fake Walking Liberty half-dollar.)
  • Do you see yourself selling, or bartering, in the future? Someone who may want to barter a quart of gasoline for silver may readily recognize a 1960 Washington quarter, but not so readily recognize an OPM round.
  • Smaller pieces, of course, give much greater flexibility.
  • Concerning larger bars, one commenter here insists only upon poured products (which, I think, would be much more difficult to counterfeit).
  • And, of course, what do you personally think of the pieces under consideration, and does that matter? If you will be storing them in a dark closet, or if you are fond of taking your PM's with you when boating, then appearance may not matter at all. If you fancy taking it out once in a while to look at it, then maybe some fancy rounds, or the lovely RCM bar (favorite of another commenter here) may be what you want.

Decisions, decisions! Best wishes!

Sep 29, 2014 - 2:24am
philipat TF
Sep 29, 2014 - 2:33am

And Silver is down....

They are ALL IN. They don't care if anyone knows, presumably sfae in the care of a captive regulator. In fact, they WANT everyone to know that there is no way you will make money in PM's. so get with the program and buy stocks. They are also in the process of trying to extract the final few ounces of physical that might be available from the remaining few holders who can be psyched-out. So they can buy and ship to Shanghai.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to see China, and/or a new Float by Sprott to place a massive physical demand on Comex?

Sep 29, 2014 - 2:51am


AM sitting on the critical information doesn't make any Sense from the economic point of view. He could make far more with the profits of truth by backing the truck and loading it with pyzz, than ever writing a book, getting compensated being a whistleblower and running a trading service combined.

so I think we have to be open minded also for the possibility of him being part of the controlled opposition, like Bart the Mullet who always answered to the emails and seemed like our guy and in the end betrayed everyone. Heck, even Cohan could be part of the plan. Andy could be running his successful trading service with insider feed he gets from the cartel. He was once working for Goldman, remember? The company that controls at least all the western Central banks. He can also be the control plan/tool for some real whistleblower's information.

See, the thing is, this play could be really well written from the beginning of the manipulation investigating procedure. Controlling the voice of GATA with the easy certain evidence that still hasn't come or leaked to the daylight despite all of these years it certainly existing somewhere. It has kept GATA and blogosphere wrapped around AM's little finger him providing the evidence that have never been given to daylight. GATA has been doing a good job though on the other fronts and other aspects of revealing this whole PM demonetizing crime. Everything we know can be staged, fromthe lights going out in the middle of Bill Murphy testimony at the manipulation hearings, to the car accident where nobody luckily got hurt and no investigation was started.

All this effort could just be made to distract us from the point of view that matters to Some irrelevant dollar price and validate the importance of the price alone and forever the price being the only truth. Like SS121 has so many times put it, it's the importance of realization being made that ONLY SILVER IS MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE.

At KWN Andy most of the time talks gold. Gold is also one approach for the Central banks to control the pressure for the ignition of the real monetary nuclear bomb, which is the metal they don't Even claim to have anymore. They are backs against the wall, and every month and year is good when the jig is actually up! If You think it that way, they have done an extraordinary job keeping this illusion of a valid and legitime market going on for several years already! Cumulating just enormous mountains of fake silver debt somewhere in the derivatives trash yard, keeping the dollar price of silver going and doing it's job for the dollar.

With the information that was never revealed.


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