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Last evening, John and Steve continued their weekly discussion of the events unfolding in Eastern Europe and Ukraine.

This is another interesting discussion as it covers the history of the region, the increasing tensions and the upcoming D-Day Anniversary events which will be attended by Putin, Woody and nearly every other "Western" leader.

Again, some background on Professor Cohen can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Cohen

And you can catch the John Batchelor Program nightly by clicking here: https://johnbatchelorshow.com/

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CPE
Jun 4, 2014 - 4:55pm

RE: Ancientmoney

you are correct sir!

Here's where I spam this chart again...

MountainManancientmoney
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:00pm

re liquidation

ancientmoney,

i am talking about physical metal man. There will be plenty for sale down below...don't fall into that trap...dealers have all the gold here to sell to you now and they will further below. It's a different game if you are talking thousands of ounces, but for us simple folks, the metal will be available. Just my personal game plan as I can no longer stand and watch the value fall off a cliff.

DragonFly
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:02pm

The reason I say it pure

The reason I say it pure propaganda is that it's meant to diminish the US contribution without any factual based debate. It also leads one to assume the US did little before DDay. WWII could have gone a lot of different directions. It wasn't over until after DDay. His supporting arguments are 97/100 soviets died, the Soviets still celebrate VA Day and Spielberg makes good movies. I don't want to debate WWII. I only wanted to say that SFC lost credibility with me because of the statement.

MountainMan
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:11pm

CPE

You guys have been posting these chart since $1900! Come on man, just look at the fucking weekly chart...we are going off a cliff soon.

CPE
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:12pm

RE: MountainMan

I recognize you from the Nudge Team. What do they pay you to say these things?

I see what you mean, the "value" has certainly not stood the test of time...

If you exchange physical gold for fiat currency, at least make sure it's the physical linen. The electronic version is subject to Corzine vaporization techniques. Check out Deutchebank's excellent capitalization.

What specifically about "market structure" has you worried? My concern about market structure can be found in a few more pictures:

CPE
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:15pm

RE: Mountainman

You look at the charts and think you can tell the future. I look at the pictures I just posted and know that it is impossible for this to continue much longer. History is on my side. You are playing a shorter game I guess. Have fun while it lasts.

NW VIEWTF
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:18pm

@ Craig

Yes the Soviets did soften them up and the "timing of events " in Europe and the Pacific made things difficult. If we had entered the war sometime after 1945 the entire area would have been softened up and General George Patton would have been like a junk yard dog as he moved across Europe and entered Moscow (his view of the way things should have been). That view cost him his life (jmo). GP said "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory".

My NW VIEW: If Hitler had maintained detente with Moscow, we would be speaking Russian and Japanese today.

elpicadorDragonFly
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:20pm

Hitler actually saved the Western Europe

Most people don't know that German attack on the Soviet Union took place just days before the Soviets were to launch an invasion on Germany and then the rest of the Europe. In 1941, the military power of the USSR was equal to today's might of the US Army. Just to give a picture; they had 26 000 tanks and about 20 million mobilized men.

https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/icebreaker.pdf

Regarding Mr Cohen's comments on Poland's involvement in Ukraine, I must say that he is wrong saying that the Polish government has its own policy; it hasn't. They support the Right Sector, which is continuation of the nationalists movement (UPA), responsible for slaughtering thousand of polish people in 1943 an still have territorial demands from Poland; likewise Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

They do what they are told by two fractions; American and German. Why they are doing it? Most of Polish politicians were members of the opposition during the communist regime, and many of them betrayed the 'Solidarity' movement (i.e. Walesa) by becoming an informant (maul) of the Security Service (SB), which gathered all the information about those 'oppositionists' in their archives. When the communism was about to collapse, three copies of all those files were made. Two of them are in Germany and Russia, the third one somewhere in Poland, and I'm sure that CIA has some of it as well. Shortly before Poland joined USA in the war in Iraq, Polish PM paid a visit in Langley; quite unusual as for the official diplomatic visit. Regarding the fact that the PM was former communist, I think that he was showed, what CIA knew about his and others past.

By the way, I'm Polish, and I can't stand those mother f....s wearing suits, who sold my country. They are doing the same thing, other idiots did in 1939 when they believed in the British guaranties and pushed Poland towards the war with Germany, which cost us 18% of the population dead and 50 years of communism.

DragonFly
Jun 4, 2014 - 5:38pm

I hear ya

I don't wish to debate it, either. However, I do find some of these "alternative history" narratives quite interesting. For example, what if Hitler hadn't moved on Russia? Or, what if The Japs had gone ahead with their "third wave" and struck both the fuel depots and drydocks of Pearl Harbor? What if Roosevelt and Taft hadn't split the Repub vote in 1912 and how would things have evolved differently if WoodyI had never been elected?

Jun 4, 2014 - 6:01pm

What if...

...I had taken the blue pill instead of the red pill? Ignorance was bliss.

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