Finally, a TFMR Bullion and Coin Affiliation


It has been over a year in the making but it is finally ready.

So many of you have supported my efforts and you know how grateful I am for each donation and pageview. To recap, after the initial success of the blogspot site, I rather sheepishly began to include Google ads after about a month. ( Almost immediately, it was suggested that I add a "donate" button so that people could freely give money to the site. I thought this was crazy but I did it anyway and hundreds of you have generously donated your hard-earned money in support. It was then also suggested that I establish a bullion and coin affiliation. The thought from several Turdites was: "I buy bullion and coins all the time. With an affiliation, at least TFMR could benefit from my purchases". This sounded like a reasonable idea, too, so I went off in search of the ideal company with which to partner.

Before I go on, let me state this clearly: There are a multitude of very good companies out there. Some, like Provident, advertise on this site and this new partnership should not discourage you from their services. They do a great job and should always be a part of your physical metal purchase process. ​That said, I had to pick one so, after significant due diligence, I settled upon Gold Bullion International. For background on GBI, you can check them out here: You may also recall this FOFOA piece which I first linked back in September of last year:

But then there was a problem. GBI was working on several other corporate initiatives at the time and was not ready yet for a retail affiliation with little ole Turd. I could have gone the easy route and moved on but that wouldn't have been the honest thing to do. I wanted to work with GBI so I was forced to wait. And wait. And wait. And wait some more.

Along the way, a retail platform emerged. For scale and efficiency, GBI decided to develop what they call the "Hard Assets Alliance". By going this route, GBI was able to offer affiliation services to a whole host of websites similar to TFMR. Today, I'm happy to announce my affiliation with the Hard Assets Alliance and I hope you will give it your consideration.

First things first, however. Please take 15 minutes to listen to the attached podcast. I'm joined by Ed D'Agostino of Hard Assets Alliance and Joe Yasinski of GBI (he's a Turdite, by the way). Hopefully, the podcast will answer many of your initial questions. Then, please head over to the HAA site. You can use this link:

There's also a permanent ad for the service that I'm placing on the right side of the homepage. Clicking either the link or the ad will direct you to HAA and tag you as a referral from TFMR.

Thank you all for your continued support of the site. I hope you find this new service to be beneficial for all your stacking and preparation needs.



Aug 10, 2012 - 12:00pm


could it be

My life may now be complete.

Be Prepared
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:01pm

Onward and Upward..

Way to go... Turd....

thurd aye
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:02pm

i'll take anywhere top ten.

i'll take anywhere top ten.

Aug 10, 2012 - 12:05pm
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:07pm

Great news Turd - Thanks.

Great news Turd - Thanks.

Mr. Fix
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:10pm

Go Turd, go!

Go Turd, go!

Silver bear of very little brain
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:11pm

Last, for now

Last for now.

Aug 10, 2012 - 12:12pm

Removed comment

Removed comment.

Aug 10, 2012 - 12:45pm

I really don't understand this Hard Assets Alliance thing

Of all the companies you could've chosen, I really don't understand this choice, other than there must be the profit motive. If there is the profit motive, then clearly we are better off working with lower margin dealers. Let's be real, I went to the Hard Assets Alliance link and from what I can discern, it is an electronic trading platform for digital metal? Or am I wrong? Maybe you could explain this a little bit more Turd, I am quite confused... 

Nick Elway
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:49pm
thurd aye
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:51pm

Now I have my silver medal,

Now I have my silver medal, could we have a forum for questions on this new project. I need to know about buying from RSA and collecting in London,Zurich for example.ZARland seems to get the sticky end of the stick in these situations.Will this company even 'accept' ZAR as currency without my having to change it first?

Thanks.T.Aye ))

Aug 10, 2012 - 1:14pm

Hard Assets Dalliance ?

That's a dream sequence I have quite often about a certain female poster here .... let's call her my "Young And Sassy Maggie Thatcher" ideal mujer ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Let's Combine Hard Assets Body Tour devil

Aug 10, 2012 - 1:33pm

Did you listen to the podcast?

Of course, you may have an ulterior motive for questioning my judgment. Care to share? Hmmm?

It is not digital metal.

​GBI is 100% allocated, off-LBMA vaulting and delivery. Period.

​As for profit, TFMR receives 65 basis points on sales out of a 2% total margin. This means that I make just $650 on every $100,000 in purchases. 

Perhaps you can name a "lower margin" dealer for us? If you can find a better deal, go for it. Taking everything into consideration, this is the direction I wanted to go.

Aug 10, 2012 - 1:33pm


Unless there have been changes they are primarily a vault with different locations to hold physical. Something like $25.000 min, everything by phone during their NY business hours and fees for delivery. Decent rep if suits your needs. I'm sure wouldn't be hard to get some info with a little research and info Turd provided.

fahrenheit451 bernard
Aug 10, 2012 - 1:34pm

That's not right.

There is nothing digital about it, you're trading actual, physical metal in the form of your choice, the location of your choice and delivered at the time and location of your choice. Second to holding it in your hand, or for those that don't want to keep their entire stash at home, this seems like a pretty good solution.

ClinkinKY Monedas
Aug 10, 2012 - 1:40pm

Careful Monedas or you're going to be pegged as...

...a "dirty old man". Oh wait, that horse has already "left the barn".wink

Dagney Taggart
Aug 10, 2012 - 2:10pm

@ Turd

Along the lines of what bestever said, regarding auditing: Bernie Madoff made out fictitious statements to his clients. Also they use one of the "Big Four" international audit firms? Since when did they regain credibility? Finally, for "security reasons", I'm not allowed to personally see my assets in their vaults? Whose gold bar did Bob Pisani hold up inside the supposed GLD vault?

Sorry, not convinced. We've seen and heard it before and it won't be me who plays sucker. But I do hope we finally see someone make these claims and turn out to be legit.

Dagney Taggart
Aug 10, 2012 - 2:37pm

Then don't use them, Dagney

Fine with me. 

This entire paragraph of yours is nonsense:

"Along the lines of what bestever said, regarding auditing: Bernie Madoff made out fictitious statements to his clients. Also they use one of the "Big Four" international audit firms? Since when did they regain credibility? Finally, for "security reasons", I'm not allowed to personally see my assets in their vaults? Whose gold bar did Bob Pisani hold up inside the supposed GLD vault?"

Regarding seeing your gold. You apparently didn't bother to listen to the podcast, either. GBI will either ship it to you or store it for you. If you choose to go see it and pick it up, you schedule an appointment and get it done. It's that simple.

As I mentioned above, if you don't like it, don't use it. Just don't try to force an agenda while making me out to be some kind of brainless stooge or shill.

El Gordo
Aug 10, 2012 - 2:44pm

Access to vaults limited

In my other life I spent a lot of time evaluating banks and other financial institutions. It is a fairly common practice in financial institutions to not allow customers inside the money portion of the vault to "see" their money that they have deposited. Now a safe deposit arrangement might be different, but it sounds to me like the individual deposits are held in bulk rather than in segregated "bins" or safe deposit box type arrangements. I suppose that if you made arrangements to pick up your stuff, make an appointment, show up, accept delivery, fondle it for a while, and then make arrangements to redeposit it if you want to. Every thing I read sounds pretty good except that part about reporting to the IRS. Guess you would have to sell outside the system in small amounts to avoid the reporting requirement. 

El Gordo
Aug 10, 2012 - 2:47pm

Actually, Gordo, you're close

With GBI, if you come by to "visit" your stash, they're going to want you to take it with you.

They want to discourage people from coming by once a week or planning regular field trips to see their stack.

They hold it. It's yours. It's 100% allocated, real physical metal. Period. End of story.

Aug 10, 2012 - 2:52pm
Aug 10, 2012 - 2:56pm

if you're worried.......pick it up

be a good gold bug and go pick it up. The slightest hint of Turd making a small profit....and you freak? gimme a fr--ckin break.. do you work for free? WTF is wrong with people. I suppose you dont give the jaundiced eye to your cable company or local utility, do you? Get off his back.

Aug 10, 2012 - 3:07pm


I am amazed at the amount of crap you have to deal with at your FREE site. Heaven forbid you actually try and generate some income for your efforts. People, you come to this site voluntarily. If you think you can do it better and generate the kind of traffic like this site, then go do it. Otherwise, please STFU!

Aug 10, 2012 - 3:12pm

Thank you Turd for the new

Thank you Turd for the new offering. It is not my cup of tea, but I am sure there are some here who will like it. Just a couple of thoughts though. I do know a family member who is looking at making a substantial purchase very soon. I was actually going to post a question as to a recommendation on a GLD alternative for a portion as he has a retirement fund with his business that he must keep in paper and make the trades through the fund manager. The physical side he was probably going to do a local purchase. I listened to your podcast and I went and visited the two links provided. Now I have been around here since you started this place and I trust you as much or possibly more than anyone I have ever met on the internet. However, my first impression of the podcast was that it reminded me of one of the all too frequent sales reps and his manager who come in to tell me about their new product that my business absolutely must have. I kind of walked away from it feeling a bit uneasy. I am relying on the website to show me more, and it is heavy on FAQ's but I am not seeing a working site or platform that I can demo or real time examples of pricing. Again, this is just my first impression and as I say, this is not my cup of tea. But if I was sold on this thing, I would be recommending it to my family member. Unfortunately, with what I saw, It doesn't leave me feeling comfortable. I am not trying to be critical of your decision, just trying to give you some unbiased feedback.

Aug 10, 2012 - 3:12pm

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Aug 10, 2012 - 3:15pm

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Aug 10, 2012 - 3:16pm

The first of Many

India to require disclosure of commodities positions

(Adds quotes and details)
By Siddesh Mayenkar and Rajendra Jadhav
MUMBAI, Aug 8 (Reuters) - India's commodity exchanges will
have to disclose all trading positions of members and their
clients from Aug. 13 in all commodities, the markets regulator
said, to boost transparency and cut volatility as a drought
ramps up farm goods prices.
"Whatever the proportion of proprietary and client trades in
a commodity, the exchanges have been asked to display on the
websites," Ramesh Abhishek, chairman of the Forward Markets
Commission (FMC), said in an interview.
"We may ask exchanges to take an undertaking from member
that the proprietary trade done by them is being done by their
own money and not on behalf of others," Abhishek told Reuters,
adding "the whole idea is find out where is the money coming
Large participants in the futures market may be asked to
disclose their physical market activity, Abhishek, who is
responsible for regulating farm commodity futures markets, said.
The series of planned measures will be in line with overseas
exchanges like Chicago Board of Trade, InterContinental
Exchange, and the London Metal Exchange.
The FMC oversees markets with about 11 trillion rupees ($200
billion) of monthly turnover -- the third biggest in the world
after the United States and China, but open only to domestic
In metals contracts, silver trading on the Multi Commodity
Exchange is the fourth biggest after steel and copper
contracts on Shanghai Futures Exchange and aluminium futures on
the London Metal Exchange, according to the Futures Industry

Aug 10, 2012 - 3:17pm

I'm sorry you feel this way

Perhaps it would be best if you called them directly and asked them your questions.

Try 877-424-9507

I Run Bartertown
Aug 10, 2012 - 3:23pm


Congrats, TF, on the new affiliation. I didn't look at everything, but it seems like it could also help someone expecting to do a GSR swap in the near future. Not directly, it says, but if you wanted to buy silver now expecting to resell soon and buy gold.


I Run Bartertown
Aug 10, 2012 - 3:24pm


And it is also a very efficient and cost-effective way to buy and/or store bullion and coins.

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