TFMR Podcast #23 - The Jim Willie Trifecta

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On Wednesday, I spoke again with the inimitable Golden Jackass, Jim Willie.

First of all, I hope you've got some time to devote to listening as this baby clocks in at about 55 minutes. I tell you what, though, it's well worth your time. Think of it as two acts. In the opening act, Jim answers some of the Turdite questions that were submitted earlier this week. We tried to cover as many as we could but we only got to 5 or 6 of them. The questions were so good that it took a while to answer them but we tried our best to hit the most popular queries. In act two, Jim and I discuss current events and the developing "black hole" of the U.S. treasury market and U.S. government deficit funding.

Jim's on his game here so sit back, relax, maybe crack a cold one and enjoy.

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NW VIEWFortinbras
Jun 18, 2012 - 7:00pm

Hi Fortinbras

I just saw your message and I just got back to Olympia. We were up near to Bonners Ferry. There are a lot of wonderful people in that area including the Mennonites who are everywhere. I do not know what the believe but they are a great group to be around.

There is a store about half mile north of the highway 2 turn on the left where I met the hay farmer and loved the store where these women work.

treefrog
Jun 18, 2012 - 3:27pm

personal information

when i am asked for personal information i often give it, but, not the way they want.

kurt vonnegut used a semi-autobiographical, will-of-the-wist character who appears in several of his novels, or often, was referred to without actually coming on stage, so to speak. whenever i apply for a discount card at a supermarket, i get it in the name of kilgore trout. (google it!)

kilgore has an address that if you try to actually go to, you find you are in the middle of an intersection. he used to have an address that was two blocks off the end of a pier. his telephone number is one i had years ago.

whether or not to use a ruse like this varies with the case. probably not a good idea when dealing with officialdom, but for a haircut? kilgore needs his hair cut from time to time. when i'm at a gathering that has those sticky name-tags, often kilgore makes an appearance. it's fun when he runs into a vonnegut fan.

sometime it's time to confront their intrusiveness. sometimes, it's more fun to just fuck with their heads.

foggyroadrocoach
Jun 18, 2012 - 12:09am

@ rocoach @ bam

rocoach said @cpn

"What nonsense. How can "classic western civilization" be based upon stories that were written, often centuries later, in a tiny part of the Middle East and based around the lives of the simple Jewish peoples who lived there? How can you discount the impact on "classic western civilization" of both the Roman Empire and of Athens, considered by most historians to be the cradle of western civilization? You are, of course, entitled to your own beliefs, but not to your own facts."

I do believe the Prophets saw the civilizations come and go, they did not create or build Empires, Roman or Anglo, or Anglo-American. The Bible Prophets had dreams, visions, and visitations by spirit creatures, Angels.

Prophets throughout history have been much sought after by Kings and Caesars, they influence the Empire only as much as the rulers belief in them.

@ bam Thank You for clarification.

Regards foggy.

bamcpnscarlet
Jun 18, 2012 - 12:00am

I'm being a little lazy by

I'm being a little lazy by quoting other people, but it's succinct enough.

"Yes, there were Christian men among the Founders. Just as Congress removed Thomas Jefferson's words that condemned the practice of slavery in the colonies, they also altered his wording regarding equal rights. His original wording is here in blue italics: "All men are created equal and independent. From that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable." Congress changed that phrase, increasing its religious overtones: "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights." But we are not governed by the Declaration of Independence-- it is a historical document, not a constitutional one."

That was just Congress's first override of the Constitution.

Maryann
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:53pm

Oops, sorry Cpn...

Knew I shoulda gone back and looked at that picture! At any rate, from one cat person to another, she's just lovely!

murphy
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:53pm

new thread

Happy Dad's Day.

bamfoggyroad
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:51pm

@foggy

No, I don't think it was you I was responding to, so no problem. I was wrong about "the guy before you". Might have been another 1 or two guys. Sorry!

cpnscarlet
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:44pm

@Maryann - Shasta's a nice

@Maryann - Shasta's a nice name, but she is Sasha Almaz Yantar Tirebiter. Reference: Russian and The Firesign Theatre.

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cpnscarlet
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:41pm

@rocoach - The

@rocoach - The technical details of the ancient texts is never the issue. The propositional truths of what the words convey are everything. You are right that the entire script of western civ are not totally Biblical, but the concept of human rights was not embraced by the Greeks or Romans, despite their experiment with rule by representatives. The concept of rights regardless of class was a result of the ideas that came out of the reformation, which was a spiritual revolution. And those are the facts without ownership.

foggyroadbam
Jun 17, 2012 - 11:30pm

@ bam to bugzy

bam said.. @bugzy

I wasn't correcting you, just adding to the discussion. More correcting the guy before you actually.

I often hear that the US was founded as a Christian Nation, and just shake my head. Original settlers (the real Founding Fathers) came to escape religious persecution to be sure. So that is how the colonies formed. But the Republic was formed by men of ideas.

Since I posted before bugzy I think you were referring to Me?

If not please disregard.

Bam I did not state the founding fathers were Christians, You are putting words in my mouth! I did not state that some were freemasons either, although its not well known that some most certainly were.

I stated people should read the Bible for context and insight into human behavior. The characters in the Bible are both Godly, and ungodly, good and bad.

As far as arguing the US, was or wasn't founded a Christian nation, I'll let You play ping pong with someone else.

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