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Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 7:10am
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Do something stupid for once

Don't let the candles go out joeka, there Is a mindless and simple solution to all This nasty complexity. Ok, things are shaping up quite a bit like 08/09. Good. Because whereas gold fell About 30 %, platinum and copper were Down about 70 %. Although the fundamentals for platinum And copper are both excellent, the TA Is a disaster. Short aluminum if you're Bothered about about coppers good looks. It's taken a while these hedges to kick in, But I'm happily adding to them now, and Not having to touch or worry about my Pm's or miners. Simple innit. No candles, Dead man's curve , nuffin. Just a buy and Hold, till qe large kruises into town.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 12:14pm
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silver targets until we bottom

I remain under-allocated in gold and silver (and over-allocated in USD. So I'm a buyer.

As long as the GSR remains above 45, I'm a silver buyer over gold. GSR gets back under 40 I'll start re-allocating silver into gold. Otherwise, I'll nibble at gold a bit when it looks good, starting at 1600.

These are my silver targets - 29.35, 27.86, 26.37, 24.98, 23.91, 22.07, 21.67, 19.19. So let's see how many, if any, get hit.

If we actually get to 19.19 we'll be 47% under the 200 dma. Unlikely, but what a steal :)

To the intelligent man or woman, life appears infinitely mysterious, but the stupid have an answer for everything. -Edward Abbey
Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 2:23pm
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Tres simplement mon breres

everyone at kwn and everyone here tries to get it Meticulously worked out. But if silver can drop to 20, what stops it going back to 12 ? Not trying to Be alarmist, but if silver retraces more than 50 % To around 24 bucks, it's no friend of mine. I don't Think that'll happen, but gold showing some integrity Now, silver hasnt (yet)These waters are getting unchartered. If germany doesn't agree to financial suicide, how Low could we go ? All I'm sayin me m8eys, have a Bit of a platinum (or similar) short on the go, just in Case everything gets reset to zero. If the ecb announce Qe xxl (perhaps they might?)....then treat this comment as a candle in the wind.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 2:34pm
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StellaConcepts: Holy Silver Smackdown, Batman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVCPu_38X8&feature=feedu

I like how StellaConcepts addresses topic of how, investors/speculators
are influenced & being cognizant of the impact of your personal approval
& how it can impact others. Information impacts decisions (taking responsibility).

Talks about: BTFD, accumulating a position. He's in buy mode, quoted '23.73
(if we were to mirror the GFC)'.. I see it going down into October, w/ more down side.
I like how streetmoney was saying: back up the truck and load up, it's like the limbo.

How low can we go? :-) I've been watching Dr. Copper, as a bellweather.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:16pm atlee
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My introduction

I am a female who has been with the site even before it was changed,,,have very little input only because I do not read charts and feel very inferior and realize that you guys are far superior in your knowledge of financial markets.Atlee,Pailin,Granny, tin hat,,,,,am sure I have left some favorites out,but appreciate everything you ALL have to say. I am a past BBQ rest owner ,awaiting a 5 yr noncompete clause to expire. During the past few years I have had an insatiable appetite to learn how to protect and preserve assets...I bought my gold and silver physical two years ago,and I do not know IF my decision is the correct one but there comes a time that you have to make choices and I have made mine .Sometimes I read things that I would dearly love to share with you guys but do not know how lol ,,,Here is one of my favorites Jim Rickards whom Has called the feds actions twice now before others did and was correct,,,IRONIC . For those who have time to watch try ....Vimeo.com18160394.....

I do not believe all things I hear but know and understand that each one holds pieces to a huge puzzle that I must place together to find my answers..

I love you guys and thank you all soo oooo much ......

Brenda miller
Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:16pm atlee
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My introduction

I am a female who has been with the site even before it was changed,,,have very little input only because I do not read charts and feel very inferior and realize that you guys are far superior in your knowledge of financial markets.Atlee,Pailin,Granny, tin hat,,,,,am sure I have left some favorites out,but appreciate everything you ALL have to say. I am a past BBQ rest owner ,awaiting a 5 yr noncompete clause to expire. During the past few years I have had an insatiable appetite to learn how to protect and preserve assets...I bought my gold and silver physical two years ago,and I do not know IF my decision is the correct one but there comes a time that you have to make choices and I have made mine .Sometimes I read things that I would dearly love to share with you guys but do not know how lol ,,,Here is one of my favorites Jim Rickards whom Has called the feds actions twice now before others did and was correct,,,IRONIC . For those who have time to watch try ....Vimeo.com18160394.....

I do not believe all things I hear but know and understand that each one holds pieces to a huge puzzle that I must place together to find my answers..

I love you guys and thank you all soo oooo much ......

Brenda miller
Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:30pm beemer
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Could someone

Who knows how go to you tube and find the movie 1981 " Rollover" and post it?

Thanks

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Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:42pm
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5 Year Daily Gold Chart -

5 Year Daily Gold Chart - 2008 Crash https://i56.tinypic.com/wr018k.png

Silver Watchdog

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:50pm beemer
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1981 Roll Over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPYLJoq_40Y

It's not the whole thing.. but, seems to be a clip that is able to give you the gist of it.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 3:56pm RedRover
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re: Beemer

I think you made the right choice.

Your biggest challenge is going to be keeping it a secret that you have it.
When you talk about it w/ people you know; reference paper silver.. or paper gold..
b/c a lot of people have money in the market.. ya know? Leaving people to think you have stocks.

Also, there are ways to insure your physical, as well.
I anticipate major highs in December, leading into January.


Cheers!

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:00pm
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Margin Requirements

It would seem that we would continue to fall tomorrow (Monday)
in silver (&gold), because of the Margin Requirement implementation;
going into effect @ like 3 pm est on Monday (right?). Thoughts.

so now we know that Margin requirements helped to accelerate what has transpired.

here's a decent video by SilverTrader FM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skRQv5qzjUQ

p.s. though.. were margin requirements raised in ASIA, as well?

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:06pm
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Granny Sunday in the Park with Dolf

Granny is not buying much of anything but bullion on Monday. She called her dealer on Friday but couldn't get thru it was so busy. Monday will be just as well if not better.

Granny feels the paper market in Silver is losing credibility faster than a crack whore losing molars. She wants more and more only to own the metal like her Chinese friends. One of her favorite MAs since there are more variants than there have been assasinated Roman Emperors is the 13/50 cross. This makes paper Silver a daytrade only status bounce play kind of like Dolf going after a rabbit. Maybe that comes as OE closes on Gold on Tuesday following margin rate riggings by our close friend and truly ethical Goldman operative, Gary Genzler.

Granny feels now that if one must take the Silver paper crack pipe then one should be hedged or have hedging plans at specific points. Regarding the Miners who took their teeth out completely on Thursday and Friday and fell to their knees. For longer term plays only and only ever as a smaller percentage of total port holdings. The game can ultimately be won with correct and careful accounting. Overrweighting in highly flameable issues is not good accounting and balancing and Granny is certainly guilty of it as well. These are her thoughts only.

And Eric King was out with the pom-poms again over the weekend. Rallying the troops. He is entertaining. He reminds Granny of a cheerleader with a huge megaphone at the Army-Navy game in 31'.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:11pm
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1)  Who slipped the angel

1) Who slipped the angel dust into the water supply, over the weekend? The comments are getting ever more, um, fanciful...

2) It really is amazing how many PM bulls, who were endlessly forecasting the next moonshot, now appear to have somehow simultaneously called the top, sold all their holdings, shorted 'em all the way down, and announced how any idiot could have seen it all coming. Man, that's some tradin'!

3) We now also seem to have a new contest about who can call the lowest low.. Call it the Silvah Limbo, mon--how low can you go??

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:19pm
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Silver got over hyped ?

No criticism meant of anyone here. My belief in Silver sorely tested this week. If we did get back to Low 20's , that's 2008 territory again. The store of Value / sound unit of account theory then a little Debateable, in my view.let's hope it doesn't happen. Gold holding up far better, But what if Italy (for instance)decided to sell it's 3500 tons ? PM safe haven theory therefore being put on hold for the time being IMHO.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:19pm
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Chart Analysis: Question on importing chart images

Hey guys,

I did an analysis of the recent price action in silver which includes charts (jpg) and an excel table. How do I import these from my hard drive? It seems I can only link from a URL address. I spent several hours doing this and I really want to share this and get the collective opinion of a potential short trade I am considering.

TIA

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:22pm Rico
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angels

They must be calling it as they see it,,at least I do hope they are..doesnt mean that holds forever,,,,,would hate for em to be still calling straight up wouldnt you ?

Brenda miller
Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:23pm Rico
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re: 1) Who slipped the angel

fan·ci·fulAdjective/ˈfansəfəl/

1. (of a person or their thoughts and ideas) Overimaginative and unrealistic.

Didn't see it coming. Where is the low? That's what I'm thinking (most definitely).
Is there a more pressing topic at hand? Seems to be what investors/speculators are
thinking about (those w/ powder ready to go); in response (backing up the truck).


Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:26pm DefiniteMaybe
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re: Chart Analysis: Question on importing chart images

Do a print screen of the Excel & crop it in MS Paint.
Save it to your desktop and load it up to photobucket, then
use the photo tool on TF metals, to reference to the photobucket hyperlink.

Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 4:45pm
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odd

It is odd that everybody is throwing crazy lowball numbers out and shorting to the bottom (whatever that is??) and all. If you can believe that the number attached to silver price is that malleable then you should also think the same about all numbers called prices. Including the "price" of the dollar/euro/whatever your country calls "legal tender". So unless you're ready to join Mad Max camp (because that's just next door to the above sentences)...then hysteria to the downside is taking hold. Not here. I posted my lower targets because I'm a prudent buyer. I won't actually buy every tick down, just key points :) Won't be a seller until I need to be (dire dire straits my friends) or the overvaluing in price is so great it swaps too well against other stuff I want but don't have..yet (100 acres in TX for 1 oz silver anybody??) to ignore. That sort of hysteria is no different than KWN interviewees saying silver will be $400 by 12/31 or they'll jump off a building...

As always, everybody should define their own risk - mental and financial - and act appropriate to surviving to see the next sunrise. Some of us weren't buying all the way up though, so we can afford to buy now and more if it's lower too.

Lest there's any confusions - my paper is PHYS and PSLV and the rest is physical. Not AGQ, UGL or SPY :)

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Sun, Sep 25, 2011 - 5:43pm pailin
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Feel like it's a natural time

Feel like it's a natural time for a correction within a volatile market.

However,

August, I think they chopped off the top of the mountain and PM's should of gone
higher (and didn't), just like coal miners chop off mtn tops. They did it to PM's
rise in August; stunting it & we didn't see the actual rise (because it didn't happen).

But the momentum stays.. So let's say Silver.. it probably should of gone to
let's say 49 and then crashed down, but it was manipulated to not go as high.
Then, when it fall it falls as if it was actually @49 (though it wasn't).

Which made the plunge more difficult to anticipate. (with the mtn chopping),
because once the momentum changed direction, it just snuck up on us &
bamm, fell off a cliff and then margin requirements to further stifle it.

Overall momentum still remains down I think (b/c of margin hikes).
Cartel seems to be manipulating it, to make it go lower than it
would of gone to prepare for QE dollar dilution.

I think their stepping up their manipulation game.
11 am was their original ploy, now they have the 3 am beatdown too.
So, it can further disguise the 11 am & they can chip away as needed.

Though.. we should look for 3 points. That's how they roll 3 pivot points.
What are they 3 am is one. 11 am is one..there should be a third, I just
can't identify it. OK, peace guys. All the best & appreciate your insight.


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