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Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 8:51am
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Armstrong, Hopi, Mayan calendar etc.

Armstrong's writings interest me, largely because of parallels between some of the things he says and predictions made by ancient peoples such as the Hopi, Maya etc. There are also parallels to be found in the Bible i.e. Book of Revelations.

As with all predictions I don't think they can be regarded as absolutes because free will has to be factored in. Humans can decide to chose one path or another along the way, and on the basis of those choices subsequent outcomes become possible. Of course, humans as a whole are also somewhat predictable (i.e. history repeating itself) which gives rise to Armstrong's ability to see cycles and make forecasting predictions.

The Hopi have long said that Mankind will inevitable learn that they cannot eat money. In the Mayan calendar we recently emerged from the 6th Night (in November 2010) and that cycle was to reveal the time that (paper) money reveals itself to be worthless. Somehow I think the tipping point of that cycle did get reached around that time, as you recall the prices of gold and silver did start moving parabollically higher around that time.

With the Book of Revelations and the many interpretations of 2012 now becoming mainstream I think many people are predicting a fire & brimstone end to the world. After all, that does sell books and movies. What I think is really coming to and end is the economic system as we know it, and the struggle we see today is the established powers that be trying to hold together a failing system that serves them vs. a slave class that is starting to wake up to the illusion and see it for what it is.

This is not to say that one outcome or another will result, but I am very certain that whether it takes a day/week/month or years ... the old system is doomed. Yes, TPTB will continue to use tactics of fear and repression, and will likely roll out "new and improved" forms of paper/digital currency (i.e. SDRs?) but ultimately this amounts to little more than putting lipstick on the same old pig.

As for Armstrong, perhaps subconsciously he's tapped into making the same observations that others have done.

Anyone familiar with John Perkins (author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman) would do well to read between the lines of some of his work. In the course of his life Perkins has admitted to some profound experiences with shamans in various parts of the globe. I think he downplays this so that he doesn't get dismissed as some kind of New Age nut wearing tinfoil hats. But Perkins has made his own observations and he too sees the coming train wreck - and has for some time.

"So you think that money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money?"
Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 9:56am
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M. Armstrong

Spent the entire evening & morning reading M. Armstrong . Finally dragged myself to bed by 3 am and have a hangover this morning LOL. It gives renewed meaning to the saying " No one is more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" (also my signature now). Amazing to read but I wasn't surprised after watching the plight and struggle of Dr. Burzynski who has developed a cure for cancer but the FDA , NCI & big PHARMA are doing all they can to shut this man down. the parallels are damn scary. Here is a link to his movie BurzynskiMovie

EXTENDED FOR FREE UNTIL JUNE 20, 2011

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Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 10:03am
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HUI Gold Bugs Index hit a double bottom June 13

Armstrong was previously looking for a bottom in gold on June 13. Perhaps the HUI is a more accurate reflection of the gold market than the spot (paper) price. It is uncanny how the index hit a low of 497 and change on June 13, a precise double bottom. Let's see if it holds.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 10:53am
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Armstrong

I too was introduced to Armstrong from the JSMineset site. I find his writings to be insightful but somewhat difficult to wade through. (There is lots of historical reference sighted in his publications and it can be somewhat confusing.)

Regardless, it's valuable stuff and given his background and experiences its a must read.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 12:05pm ReachWest
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The bad news is I am too dumb to understand Armstrong, Fekete, or FOFOA. The good news is I wasn't too dumb to jump into PMs with both feet in the late 90's. Read chapter 5 of Reminiscences of a stock operator frequently.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 2:24pm
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I am new to Armstrong but so

I am new to Armstrong but so far I like what I read. Of course I do not understand it all but that is OK. I am putting it into storage for now. ( i.e. into the back of my memory bank. )

I am almost always wrong. But the fun in life is those few times when I am right.
Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 2:38pm
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PHLX Gold/Silver Index XAU made a bottom on June 13

I commented before on the double bottom in the HUI on June 13.

Take a look at the XAU. This made a bottom for the year on June 13.

https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EXAU+Interactive#chart2:symbol=^xau;range=ytd;indicator=sma(50,200)+volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Very interesting indeed! This might indicate that PM mining stocks take the lead during the next phase of the PM bull.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 5:50pm
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Hopi Maya

@John Galt,

Martin goes over all you expressed in at least one of his pieces, he speaks of trends but individuals have free will and don't have to get caught up the direction of the trend. He also speaks of the hopi,maya and others endeavouring in cycle sciences including paralel universe/reality, I'll try to find it when I get time. I've been following him for 5 years, he will be coming out with a book "The Geometry Of Time" this fall or winter I believe. This man is not just an economist. As with all great thinkers he starts in one area but soon realizes that all is connected and one is forced into taking account as much data from the whole world past and present to get the best picture of how to proceed forward.

The people that hype the end of the world crap will probably manifest what they have focused on for themselves ala the law of attraction. The Maya, Hopi and most other native people tell of the end of TIME or the end of the world as we know it now. They believed the end of the corruption of man's spirit and his disengagement from the spiritual would come to an end change or reversal. One must note modern humans definition/acknowledgement of time, money, ownership which has little or no expression in native cultures. As we move into Aquarius one may note that last great leap for human kind was the transition from Aries to Pices where neandertals fell off and cro magnun morphed into what we are today. Many believe that another great leap is about to take place, and I sure as shit hope so.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 7:25pm paladin
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Thanks paladin /stupid subject needed to post replies

paladin wrote:

here is Martin telling ...his fight with the boyzzz and the Club

https://www.10sigma.com/files/Martin%20Armstrong%20Biography%20May%202011.pdf

Thanks paladin, I had not read his account of that before.

Interesting that his words seem different from what others comments would suggest. Has a credible source researched this and found his account jibes with history? If so, that is one of the more frightening documents I've ever read.

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 7:58pm Kumanari
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@ Kumanari We seem to share

@ Kumanari

We seem to share many similar outlooks in many regards. If you manage to dig up the older Armstrong piece I'd be very interested in reading it. I never knew he wrote specifically about the Hopi and Maya, but that doesn't surprise me either because many parallels have shown up in other essays of his I have read.

As for the transition from Pisces into Aquarius I was told once that we are shifting from an age where we follow others (i.e. schools of fish symbolized by Pisces) to a time of knowledge, and "knowing", represented by Aquarius. This is consistent with the Book of Revelations (revelation = to "reveal") speaking of a coming Apocalypse (from the Greek word apocalypsus, which means "to pull back the veil").

As the Hopi elders say: "Do not look outside of yourself for a leader. We are the ones we have been waiting for."

"So you think that money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money?"
Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 9:06pm Turdle GG
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Martin Armstrong

Turdle GG wrote:

SB,

I'd be a bit cautious about saying that the runup in April was due to the EE stepping aside. As Ted Butler has pointed out, the EE has massively decreased its short position. So, the run-up in April was likely (at least in part) due to short covering by the EE.

Thats not really me saying that, I have to give credit to Turd there, I can't find the actual turd post to quote, but that is one of the ways turd described the run up in April, and I believe him because it makes sense, they KNEW about the margin hikes way in advance, perhaps even six weeks before hand, and they knew the higher they let it run up the faster and farther it would fall back down. I think the term is bull trap, they basicly made a plan to take all the speculative money and hopefully burn enough people that no one would want to go long again.

Of course, this is all pure speculation because no one outside the "club" really knows for sure, I'm just trying to further our discussion here.

Hey Turdle GG, is the GG for gram of gold? Or is it the digital gold gg?

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 4:37am
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Silver manipulation in -98

Just finished reading his three part laydown of what he called Silver: Manipulation, Squeeze or Bull market? from 1998 and I'm kinda rockin' back and forth when I see the parallels between the May movements and what he writes. Would have been sooo good to have read that before, but I still feel it is highly important because there will be more squeezes by the Club. Backwardation equals bull market right? Not according to the Armstrong, and the reasons are very compelling to read and think about. Parabolic rise that was partly caused by the supply shortage was indeed orchestrated by the EE so they made money up but above all down.

This is what he writes about the manipulation in -98 in essence that I feel are very close to today's situation: COMEX storage are not all physical silver available since the London exchange do not publish their inventories. (If this has changed so they indeed display their inventory levels please let me know!) This means that when silver shoots up like a star due to very low inventories (Hmm.. Low inventories. Now where have I read that one?) EE will have several hundreds of millions of oz. in store just ready to flood the markets hidden in different locations in London. I imagine the scene will be set up beautifully after summer doldrums, QE3 announcement and then on top of that "all silver is running out!" cries. Silver will rise meteorically, and then they step in and flood the markets (once again) and silver will crash hard. So, If one extrapolates Armstrong's work in today's situation I can only urge caution and not to be caught up in an upward hysteria and greed movement.

Here's a link to an archive of a lot of his essays, the one I mention here are under page 8. Happy reading!

https://www.gold-speculator.com/martin-armstrongs-economic-pi-cycle/

BTW, LOVE the new Casa Turd!

/Dubbster

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 11:18am
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2 new Armstrong Pieces

2 new armstrong pieces out, we will benefit greatly by his freedom, just the graphics and text make it so much easier on these middle age eyes never mind the new found clarity expressed by the loss of incarceration. This man has the attention and respect of some major people, I imagine that is why he is still alive and now free.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 11:18am
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2 new Armstrong Pieces

2 new armstrong pieces out, we will benefit greatly by his freedom, just the graphics and text make it so much easier on these middle age eyes never mind the new found clarity expressed by the loss of incarceration. This man has the attention and respect of some major people, I imagine that is why he is still alive and now free.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 2:42pm Kumanari
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Martin Armstrong

Mr Galt I'd tip the hat to you twice if I could, dig the commentary

Even if you remove the financial projections in his writing, the historical context is fascinating. Specifically his insight into the fall of the roman empire, so amazingly relevant today. The removal of precious metals in circulating currency for example as the empire destroys its own monetary system. Sound familiar? The story of the roman denarius is destined to parallel the US dollar, the funny thing is that history repeats itself without deviation.

I've had a lot of good discussion with a friend of mine who works for the government about one of his articles "What destroyed Rome was its unfunded pension programs" and of course by proxy govt. entitlements:

https://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/What%20Destroyed%20Rome%2005-18-20...

(note the awesome chart showing the debasement of silver coins! 300 ad looks a lot like the us 1964 removal of circulating silver coins)

My city friend as a great opposing point of view because he will always try to defend the system, but its not worth reposting here.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 3:13pm
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Martin Armstrong

I saw Martin at one of Mike Campbell's World Outlook Conferences just before his "trouble" began. Late 1990's. He was predicting increasing volatility starting in 2004/2005. He was advising governments and major clients and had his finger on the pulse of really big money and where it was moving around the world. The whole ECM thing (economic confidence model). I subscribed to his Princeton Economics reports for a year and then he got thrown in jail. When I found he had started writing a couple of years ago, I printed out everything I could find. They're all worth reading and re-reading. He almost died in there. They tried to stop him writing during his house arrest (now) but luckily that didn't happen. His writing is admittedly a little bit hard to follow sometimes, but there is always at least one idea per essay that makes you think "he's a genius. " Let's hope he stays safe.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 3:20pm Victory Increasing
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He was attacked in Jail

There was one attempt on his life during incarceration he writes about, he almost lost sight in his right eye.

The wiki article is a good place to start for someone interested in him and his writing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 3:25pm Dubbelito
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re: Silver Manipulation

Dubbelito wrote:

Just finished reading his three part laydown of what he called Silver: Manipulation, Squeeze or Bull market? from 1998 and I'm kinda rockin' back and forth when I see the parallels between the May movements and what he writes. Would have been sooo good to have read that before, but I still feel it is highly important because there will be more squeezes by the Club. Backwardation equals bull market right? Not according to the Armstrong, and the reasons are very compelling to read and think about. Parabolic rise that was partly caused by the supply shortage was indeed orchestrated by the EE so they made money up but above all down.

This is what he writes about the manipulation in -98 in essence that I feel are very close to today's situation: COMEX storage are not all physical silver available since the London exchange do not publish their inventories. (If this has changed so they indeed display their inventory levels please let me know!) This means that when silver shoots up like a star due to very low inventories (Hmm.. Low inventories. Now where have I read that one?) EE will have several hundreds of millions of oz. in store just ready to flood the markets hidden in different locations in London. I imagine the scene will be set up beautifully after summer doldrums, QE3 announcement and then on top of that "all silver is running out!" cries. Silver will rise meteorically, and then they step in and flood the markets (once again) and silver will crash hard. So, If one extrapolates Armstrong's work in today's situation I can only urge caution and not to be caught up in an upward hysteria and greed movement.

Here's a link to an archive of a lot of his essays, the one I mention here are under page 8. Happy reading!

https://www.gold-speculator.com/martin-armstrongs-economic-pi-cycle/

BTW, LOVE the new Casa Turd!

/Dubbster

I recommend the guest post from Costata on FOFOA "Has the silver market been cornered...AGAIN?" it makes for a very interesting read now that we know the SLV etf is actually used to settle COMEX contracts. Lot's of room to slaughter pigs on the way up and down. BTW: the etf stuff makes watching the levels in the GLD interesting, ie. puke points.

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 7:44pm
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Armstrong and Bilderberg

Just been perusing this thread after reading Armstrong where he makes reference to there being an elite regiment whom he presumably had acquaintances with, back then. Isn't it uncanny that his call for major shift in global confidence comes after last weekends Bilderberg conference? If you're not au fait with Bilderberg, do a Google search. My take, same as it ever was....... the few dictating what shall happen to the masses .... literally!!

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 - 3:55am Ford_Prefect
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Costata article

Thanks Ford,

I'll read it as soon as I have the chance.

The point is though that history is really repeating itself, because the same fiends is getting new lambs to bring to the slaughter each time..

/D