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Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 12:21pm
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@ Lamenting

Yes, Otto Warburg is of the Warburg "family".

I read all 3 knew each other during research on Otto, there is a picture somewhere with all 3. Sorry can't remember where however. I have so much stuff stuck in my head from the decades of research and sometimes well it's hard to retrieve/remember where it was found but it's floating around somewhere up there in my head. I usually have one of those ah-ha moments when lease expected....and remember...

JP Morgan funded Warburg for a time (after the Nobel) and pulled funding from Tesla. I believe Tesla was shut down because he was not one of them nor would he succumb to their "wishes". The name of their game is complete control and they have been following their "blueprint" for centuries. They have suppressed so much information, knowledge and inventions to further their agenda.

You know when you read/learn something and it is ingrained with you forever? One of those are what is new to the public is already 25-50 year old technology. With that being said just think of the power they have waiting, the inventions, the technology all suppressed until they decide to play the worlds, savior. Notice I didn't say Saviour. Anyway they are more evil than most can ever imagine, more corrupt than most can ever imagine and more deadly than most can ever imagine.

Georgia Guidestone

Executive order 11110

Greenbacks

Remember, The love of money is the root of all evil.

Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 12:27pm
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Senseosensei, the Planet

Senseosensei, the Planet X story is always morphing, and for whatever reason you can never see it. It sounds too convenient to me. It looks to me like if Planet X is close enough to arrive in December it ought to be clearly visible to at least the largest telescopes. If it's not visible, how does anyone know it's coming? Stranger things have happened, but so far, to me, it's smoke and not fire. I remain a lot more worried about asteroids. I think they are a clear and present danger, and I think they can show up unexpectedly since they are such small celestial objects and I think they are part of the plan of the elites, but I don't see something as big as Planet X being able to sneak up on us. If it has a dust cloud, you should be able to see the cloud. So far, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 12:30pm
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HAARP again

First of all. dnlward on ignore. I am not going to waste my time with someone that hammers one point into oblivion (right or wrong) yet ignores everything else. Go troll someone else.

@Daystar: i found it to be striking that HAARP and Planet X pop up in many sites, as if there is some sort of connection. To be honest, unless we see a clear second sun in the sky the coming weeks, it's safe to assume 27 august is a pile of hog wash. But from what i read, it's also clear to me that one can hardly prepare for this scenario....rather pointless to try not to be one of the 4 billion victims predicted, without any solid evidence.

What i am 100% certain about is that planes spray my skies day after day. My eyes don't lie to me. Today it was so hot that the trails wouldn't stick yet the spraying continues. So something is up, and we are not informed about it. Strange isn't it, that you are almost glad it's only HAARP once you have studied the end of the world with planet X ;)

Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 12:46pm
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Control control and more control

https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/rockefeller.htm

Both major political parties used the media to build the perception of opposing positions on key issues, while all the while building consensus on issues that were critical to social change. That's verified in the Congressional Record for 1917, which reported that

"...the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests.... and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the US.... They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25

of the greatest papers. ...an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information...."

--Congressman Oscar Callaway statements were included in the Congressional Record (vol. 54, February 9, 1917, p. 2947)

"The Council on Foreign Relations co-sponsors an assembly Rethinking America's Security: Beyond Cold War to New World Order which is attended by 65 prestigious members of government, labor, academia, the media, military, and the professions from nine countries. Later, several of the conference participants joined some 100 other world leaders for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. The Bilderbergers also exert considerable clout in determining the foreign policies of their respective governments. While at that meeting, David Rockefeller -- co-founder (with Zbigniew Brzezinski) of the Trilateral Commission -- said in a speech:

'We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the lights of publicity during those years.

But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination [read as 'democracy'] practiced in past centuries."

--June 5, 1991, Bilderberger meeting in Baden Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton)www.mega.nu/ampp/bilderberg.html. [Main source: Dr. Dennis Cuddy, A Chronological History of the New World Order

In the Introduction to Censored [1996]: The News That Didn't Make the News-And Why, a1996 book by Carl Jensen, Walter Cronkite wrote:

"'A handful of us determine what will be on the evening news broadcasts,

or, for that matter, in the New York Times or Washington Post or Wall Street Journal.... Indeed it is a handful of us with this awesome power... a strongly editorial power.

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...we must deicide which news items out of hundreds available we are going to expose that day. And those [news stories] available to us already have been culled and re-culled by persons far outside our control

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David Rockefeller speaks about population control.
Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 1:24pm
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Info

Sorry if I am posting info that seems outside of HAARP but all the information is so (inter)-connected in operations and scope. These are all tentacles of their master plan, one operation supports another and so on but dependent on the core.

Like another brick in the wall to keep the masses dazed and confused or asleep.

The scope is utterly massive as layer upon layer unfolds or is pealed back.

But to the unknowing, those who are asleep, those who willfully choose to ignore the abundance of documents, unconstitutional laws, overwhelming and empirical evidence of treason in plain view will be tantamount to their enslaving.

Remember TV PROGRAMING isn't called PROGRAMING for nothing.

Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 1:41pm
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Be careful of your eardrums

Sticking your fingers in your ears to avoid facts can be hazardous to your hearing.

"Hammers a point into oblivion"?

You claimed. I disagreed. You incorrectly restated his position. I proved what he really said.

If that is your fracture point for continued dialogue, I'm guessing you miss out on a lot of information.

I addressed your 'Planet X', your pending SPT revelations, your Gulf Stream fears, your record # of disasters, your 'Sun rising in different spots', and your Edgar Cayce map. It's probably best if you just ignore people and their pesky facts. I absolutely will not put you on ignore. I am looking forward to hearing from you in a month. Besides, I didn't say anything about HAARP. For all I know, it may be a weather machine. I haven't seen any proof of that yet, though.

Wed, Jul 25, 2012 - 3:03pm
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http://sincedutch.wordpress.c

https://sincedutch.wordpress.com/

United States Patent Application 20110174892

The present invention provides an apparatus for weather modification. The apparatus comprises an emitter electrode, means for providing the emitter electrode with an electric charge, electrically coupled to the emitter electrode, an insulating support for supporting the emitter electrode at a predetermined height, and means for earthing the apparatus. The emitter electrode comprises a Malter film. According to another aspect of the present invention an apparatus for weather modification is provided, which comprises a lighter-than-air craft suitable for carrying an emitter electrode, means for providing the emitter electrode with an electric charge, electrically coupled to the emitter electrode, and means for earthing the apparatus. According to still a further aspect of the present invention, a method of increasing the amount of precipitation in a target region is provided. The method comprises the steps of providing an emitter electrode, analyzing the meteorological situation in and/or close to the target region, and providing the emitter electrode with an electric charge in response to the meteorological analysis, thereby causing the emitter electrode to ionize the vicinity of the emitter electrode.

https://rezn8d.net/2012/05/10/weather-modification-radio-wave-cloud-ioni...

Secret US Bunkers being destroyed (for humanity)

Interesting if true

Thu, Jul 26, 2012 - 11:11am
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Planet X again

I listened in to another John Moore radio show and the topic rapidly shifted from agricultural topics to Planet X, again.

Basically John repeated the whole story. A few small bits of new information.

Apparently the Norwegian government has made a giant bunker, with this in mind, that contains all the known seeds of the world. It's been built in Spitsbergen, and every piece of building material had to be shipped in. Not something you want to do just for fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBiMf10yO40 The MSM story to explain it all could be true, but then again, given that's its a MSM story, has no reliability what so ever.

Then there is the CIA who moved from Langley to Denver .https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501860.html

According to John, this move made little sense and you wouldn't want to do this, and dislocate thousands of employees and families, unless you had no other choice. A forced move, in other words.

But the most scary moment for me was when listeners to his show called in. Rational people, 40+ i would say, who basically confirmed that they were also warned by family members that worked in the US navy, submarine division, from 1978 onward.

One caller asked why we didn't see any prove of planet X yet, being so close as it should be by now. John's answer: with the right equipment it's already visible in the southern hemisphere.

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I am really starting to take this very serious folks. And here is 100% speculation from my part, bits and pieces i put together, where i would love your comments on.

First of all, no doubt in my mind that if this is true, we will not get any warning from the government. Simply, because the moment they do, it will be chaos, pillaging, rape and murder, total anarchy, within 10 minutes. Think about it for a second. What would you do if your president told you that we are about to face an incoming planet 3x the seize of earth, with an estimated 4 billion deaths on day 1?

Secondly, in regards to point 1, and if true, they must be suppressing anyone and any information that comes close to this "truth".

Thirdly, suddenly a whole lot of consecutive orders of Obama make sense. The one to shut down internet. The one claiming all property, natural resources. The one establishing martial law.

I have been thinking about Daystar's comment that Planet X was a convenient story to take off the shelf whenever you need it. But given that they try to deny it everywhere (NASA etc.) little can be gained. I mean, what percentage of humanity ever heard of Planet X anyway?

I talked to my wife about all of this and basically this is what we agreed upon: i will make a plan to move to safer grounds. I will prepare a travel list with stuff we need. And we will pack all that. And then we are going to forget about Planet X, cause it certainly doesn't make one happier.

But the moment real evidence shows up confirming the whole thing, we will not have to waste precious time discussing this again. We will simply pack our things and move to our "safe spot". And start praying.

Thu, Jul 26, 2012 - 12:20pm
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@ Sense

Something is going to happen but what I do not know. So much info out there, what's true, what's false? Underground bunkers located worldwide is a fact, underground seed vaults are a fact. Tropics found under Ice caps, previous pole shift? Pre-flood? Pre-Peleg? I just don't know.....

The underground bunkers brings to mind Revelations 6:12-17. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. .And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

And Revelations 812: And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Interestingly a Russian couple attended churches bible class and their bible translated wormwood as Chernobyl. So something radioactive?

pole shift is NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting. Pole shift?

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Doomsday Vault Protects World's Seeds on "60 Minutes"

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D.U.M.B.s "Underground Bases"

Thu, Jul 26, 2012 - 12:41pm
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Denver AP

The Mysteries of Denver Airport
Fri, Jul 27, 2012 - 4:30am Senseosensei
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Hi Sense,

watched 2 fascinating videos today. Do you want them here or PM'd to you? Edit: Sorry PM compromised. Best.

Fri, Jul 27, 2012 - 4:55pm Stormdancer
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and so it goes

Sat, Jul 28, 2012 - 1:21pm
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Planet X, again, and again

NIBIRU SUN WITH ITS SEVEN PLANETS REAL & ARE IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - PROF. M. REZA SALA, PH.D., P.E..
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 - 3:58pm Senseosensei
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Planet X

Sensseosusensei, At 10:44 in the video there is text that reads, Nibiru will first be seen by everyday people by May 15th 2009 as a faint reddish object. It will be moving up from below the earth's orbit. This means that until 2009 the only way to see it is from a South very southern location of Earth.

That was three years ago, and it still has not appeared. I call BS on this.

DayStar

Sun, Jul 29, 2012 - 10:10am
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The implications of Phil's story........

Phil's story was by far the most disturbing thing I ever delved into. To think, if what he says is real (and I believe it must be after listening to him), what is going on underground is very hard to accept. There were many attempts on Phil's life and they finally got him. All the artifacts & documents were missing from his home, too. All these underground bases (almost 200 at the time he spoke) are connected together. Just mind boggling. Please read the lecture & listen to him in the 2nd link (not the best quality) and tell me what you think.

Phil Schneider's 1995 lecture (one of many)

https://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/phil_schneider.htm

And this video of Phil I found to be very credible. He has alien artifacts which he shows the audience.

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Sun, Jul 29, 2012 - 11:19pm Senseosensei
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Allow me to save you some time

Very scary in 2007, when it was made. It now seems quite silly. Just skip to the 11:30 mark and note that 'Planet X' will be visible to all in May of 2011.

A second sun 'as big as the moon' by December of 2012. I looked out the window a moment ago, just in case, but it wasn't there. Not even something half as big. Or one-fourth as big. Or one-eighth as big.

Mon, Jul 30, 2012 - 2:18am
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@NancyDrew

The reason there is no doubt in my mind, none what so ever, that the weather is continuously being modified, is because i see it with my own 2 eyes. After 3 months of watching the fighter jets circling above my backyard i know their flight patterns, and the effects: clear skies turn to a grey blur within hours after the first jets show up.

The reason i am not yet convinced about the Planet X dates, is that i don't see a second sun where i live. The circumstantial evidence is quite overwhelming, yet the date could be tomorrow, in 3 years, in 2 hundred years or never: what do i know. But the moment i see that 2nd sun in my backyard, that's another question answered.

Now, regarding your post. I have no doubt governments around the world have build underground cities. I also have no doubt that most is paid for by tax money. And there is little doubt left that we will ever hear the truth about the how and why, until it's already too late and they have shut the doors behind them. And regarding technology way beyond what we know of, sure, i am prepared to make that leap too and agree that they probably can make spacecrafts that resemble "UFO's".

But like with the other topics, unless i see clear evidence that aliens exist (they will have to stand right in front of me) i draw the line there. I have seen the skulls, i have seen the drawings of ancient cultures, but if aliens really circled our planet daily we would have seen them by now...

Mon, Jul 30, 2012 - 2:53am
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The inebriati - don't watch if don't like satire or are serious

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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 - 9:05am
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Aliens

Back in January 2012 Lindsey Williams was talking about 2012 being the year when the elites would introduce their Devil's Messiah. Werner von Braun told his secretary that a fake alien invasion was part of the plan. Could the fake alien invasion be a way to install the Devil's Messiah? He saves the world from the big bad aliens? Von Braun also said asteroids were part of the plan. I believe asteroids are a lot more likely than Planet X. I believe the stuff on Planet X is psy-ops stuff, perhaps in part intended to discredit the blogosphere. An asteroid hitting the Pacific could cause a tidal wave on the West Coast or elsewhere.

DayStar

Mon, Jul 30, 2012 - 12:16pm
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So do you think Phil

So do you think Phil Schneider was lecturing about things that were not true? I would like to believe that, but I find him to be convincing. Was he paid to say these things happened?

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