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#1 Fri, Nov 30, 2018 - 12:20pm
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Confiscation

CONFISCATE: verb (used with object), con·fis·cat·ed, con·fis·cat·ing.

  1. to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of penalty, for public use.
  2. to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily:

What's to stop your money from being made illegal to hold and spend? Have we not discussed this?

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Fri, Nov 30, 2018 - 1:01pm
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CONFISCATION IS A NEVER ENDING PROCESS

It's always done against the will of the people even if they think confiscation is benign. In this case benign is a notion of such soporific insanity that the mere uttering of the word makes crazy people look sane.

To say taxes are an good thing is the first resort of a cavil ruling authority using armed thugs to enforce their demands that we give of our substance to support their activities.

Frederick Douglass was a magnificent and brilliant thinker who called out taxes, government theft, slavery and the taking of a man's labor without his consent, as commonplace then as it is now, as slavery. Whether it was 3%, 10% 50% or 100% of his labor; efforts and fruits of labor taken by force or implied threat of force is and always will be slavery.

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It's not "your" money. It's

It's not "your" money. It's "their" money.

Which is of course key to resolving the problem. Not that "they" will appreciate your attempts to solve it when you do so.

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Sat, Dec 1, 2018 - 6:11pm AGXIIK
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Fred Douglas

I didn't know he came out against taxes so strongly. Do you have an online source for his writings on the subject? It would be good to post a few of his more powerful points on the board. (I believe in the power of education, in that I'm formerly educated, myself ;>]

Frodo: "I wish it need not have happened in my time," Gandalf: "So do I. And so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

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"Public Service" Must Return, But How?

Norm, you hit the nail on the head. More accountability to the public is the only way a nation can survive under "citizen legislators" and it's what we are missing in our system of government. But what does that look like, if we modified our system, with the wave of the hand?

Frodo: "I wish it need not have happened in my time," Gandalf: "So do I. And so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

Thu, Jun 20, 2019 - 1:14pm
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But what I really want to know

Hello, brand new here - feel free to point me in the right direction. Wondering about confiscation and numismatics. ITM trading is pushing them hard, saying the protected level will be around 1.5 times the price of a gold eagle. Their feeling is that is the level of 'collectibility' should confiscation (or the elimination of a place to sell your gold) should occur to standard minted coins and such.

Please let me know your thoughts or suggestions. Thank you.

Thu, Jul 18, 2019 - 2:06pm
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How are they going to get your PM's?

How do they know you even hold PM's? Do you fear the tyrants will break into your home and search the premises?

These bullion shops trade on the common man's fears. Unless you are a true coin collector and you get personal satisfaction out of 'making a collection', I'd stay clear of numismatics.

Gold and silver bullion should be bought as cheaply as possible- recognized coinage or bars is the way I go. I don't care about dates. I buy strictly on price per weight. Gold for preservation of wealth and silver for spending if the bottom falls out and also for trading into gold. I use gold Eagles to trade into silver.

I suppose Government confiscation could happen. At my age- it will be my last act of independence making the theif(s) pay heavily for stealing my wealth.

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