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#1 Tue, Jun 21, 2011 - 9:37pm
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Well pump

I live on a half dozen acres with hundreds more acres around that are uninhabited and unused except by deer hunters from time to time. We have a wood stove for heat, and 500 gallon propane tank for cooking -- I think I can probably rig up something with my backpacking stoves if needed and no electricity.

The one big gotcha is our well pump -- it is electric.

What are the options? I'm thinking a backup hand pump (but that will probably be a LOT of manual labor?) Water table is probably 40-50 feet so not so bad. I was thinking maybe a solar water pump -- but not sure if solar has the oomph needed or not.

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Tue, Jun 21, 2011 - 10:30pm
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Actually it looks like the

Actually it looks like the water table is only a few feet down -- varying from 8-15 feet.

Tue, Jun 21, 2011 - 10:39pm
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Go Solar

A couple of solar panels, deep cycle lead-acid batteries and you have enough power for a pump and get juice for a radio and LED lighting as a side benefit.

If you get a DC powered pump it will be a lot more efficient system than AC.

Google "solar power off the grid" for more ideas.

I know personally 2 people who have cabins rigged with solar (also called PV for photovoltaic). For a fairly low expense you can have water pumped for 2 people. If you want to have 4 or more then you will realize how incredible it is that we take city water for granted. 

Solar panels (PV panels) can be bought used to save $$ although they will be older tech and not as powerful.

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Wed, Jun 22, 2011 - 10:55pm
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Off the grid

I'd still get a hand-pump for a back-up. I live in NV and we had a horribly un-sunny winter here. Friends nearby couldn't keep their deep-cycle batteries charged. Drought can change the water level in your well very quickly.

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Thu, Jun 23, 2011 - 10:32am
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I read a book called

I read a book called "Patriots" recently by John Wesley Rawles (highly recommended). It talks about this very situation. The character in the books uses solar to pump the well water all day everyday. It pumped into a 2000 gallon cistern that was positioned on top of a hill, which fed the water to the house by gravity.

Hope this helps or sparks an idea..

Thu, Jun 23, 2011 - 10:40am
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This looks like a decent

This looks like a decent solution. Hand pump that installs over the existing well casing... https://www.bisonpumps.com

More info here: https://www.preparedtompkins.org/?p=119

Thu, Jun 23, 2011 - 12:05pm (Reply to #6)
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uptofreedom wrote: This looks

uptofreedom wrote:

This looks like a decent solution. Hand pump that installs over the existing well casing... https://www.bisonpumps.com

More info here: https://www.preparedtompkins.org/?p=119

I grew up with that style pump for all our drinking water, we had an angled casing so the pump was indoors on the kitchen counter and the well outside. Good backup solution. Poor main feed solution for anything more than drinking water.

If you go this route get spare "leathers" which are likely not made of leather anymore but are the flexible flapper that is the magic that makes the pump work. Of course in a pinch you can take any leather or leather like material and use the old one as a pattern to make a new one. Also practise priming the pump so you get a feel for it.

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Sat, Jul 2, 2011 - 9:11pm
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here is a link to a source

here is a link to a source for solar pumps. there are lots of other sources.

https://www.kansaswindpower.net/pumps.htm

 if you can pump from your well to a holding tank higher than your house or point of use, you can use a small pump with a slow output (a gallon a minute or less). a hill is a good place to put the holding tank if you're lucky enough to have one. i live on flat land, and built a water tower (it helps to know how to weld). for every 2.3 feet of height, you get one psi. a 23 foot hill (or tower) gives you 10 psi. 10 psi isn't the 30 t0 50 psi most folks are used to, but it definitely is running water. it takes the toilet tank several minutes to re-fill. waaay ahead of carrying buckets. use a holding tank large enough to hold several days supply. you may get some cloudy days that limit your solar collector's output.

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Sun, Jul 3, 2011 - 10:02pm
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Try

Mon, Jul 4, 2011 - 8:21pm (Reply to #9)
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to go along with

to go along with simplepump try https://www.econvergence.net/electroacc.htm for the shady days.

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