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OK I am going to go there.

It needs to be explored.

I have seen some exceptional shit exposed on mainstreet and I am over it.

Old guys with young wives, Young guys with trophy wives.

Why do I never see Women with trophy husbands?

Do we do that??? I think we do, Well on TV at least.

If so, what exactly do we gain (there must be a gain right?)

Come on in peeps - Tell me exactly what motivates the movers and shakers of our world WRT women.

While I acknowledge that TFMR is not the world in general by a long shot (TF is a gentleman and a scholar in my book) and most of the clientele is already skewed, there must be a thread of logic somewhere that we can grab hold of.

If this thread dies, I expext that no one will  mourn, Simply too hard,

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What is...

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Wow

how did I miss this thread. The coincidences are mounting up. 

Silvery: Google Mary Lou Whitney..... The First Lady of Saratoga.  I haven't seen her out about last year or the year before but she's gotten long in the tooth. Yet, she pursued live with a vigor well into her 80s. The stories I could tell but .... Won't on here anyway.....  

There are a lot of Mary Lou's but unlike her they mostly don't flaunt it. I'll never look at a leg of lamb without thinking of her. 

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Silvery Blue, nothing to fear with talking about white women!

Wouldn't want to live without them.

Attributed to Betty White, but she didn't say it:

A friend said to me, "Hey you need to grow a pair. Grow a pair, Bro." It's when someone calls you weak, but they associate it with a lack of testicles. Which is weird, because testicles are the most sensitive things in the world. If you suddenly just grew a pair, you'd be a lot more vulnerable. If you want to be tough, you should lose a pair. If you want to be real tough, you should grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.

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Lizzy warren

Is a good example of what people in news represent as a white women. The ones who count love their children. They are a good example for the next generation, not haters but lovers, connected to the land. If there is a white man out there who appreciates honest living he will be with a white women who does too.  Keep it real

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I believe silvery blue

is referring to Cougars. 

Who are not as socially acceptable as the reverse. 

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sorta @Ruff, but just as an aside to the main thought

According to urban dictionary:

Cougar

An older woman who frequents clubs in order to score with a much younger man. The cougar can be anyone from an overly surgically altered wind tunnel victim, to an absolute sad and bloated old horn-meister, to a real hottie or milf. Cougars are gaining in popularity -- particularly the true hotties -- as young men find not only a sexual high, but many times a chick with her shit together.

The closest male equivalent I could find is Sugar Daddy. UD comments:

The idea that all sugar daddies are rich is a stereotype and cliche. That's like saying "all johns are rich". Fact is, sometimes all a poor or needy female wants is for you to help her provide food and basic things for her children she can't afford or maybe help her afford cable television or an education or... just a place to live while she gets on her feet. It's not how rich YOU are that matters, its how POOR she is. Poor females are very open to sugardaddies of all income brackets (well, except maybe poor).

So the cougars are predatory and (getting the services), the sugar daddies are either rich and paying the agreed price for services, or just being useful useful as long as the women are poor/needy enough (while getting the same services).

It's just prostitution by another name isn't it?

I would not like my daughters to be on either bench, (I am quite sure they would give me a talking to if I showed cougarish signs LOL) but it is becoming the norm because it's so common. It makes me sad.

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A good friend of mine

She is about 5 years older than me. We are more like brother and sister. After her divorce she lamented to me how frustrating dating and meeting men can be. She was sickened by the lowest common denominator, which she felt every man expected every woman to be.

A woman in her fifties enjoys sex just add much as a twenty year old, maybe even more, just differently. The idea that the fifty year old had to be " as easy" and raunchy as the younger woman of today was nauseating. 

During and after my divorce, I stayed out of bars, so I avoided a lot of that. I did date a woman seven years my senior, who had a body most 30 year old would die for. More importantly, her demeanor and her overall presence was delightful. Was also the absolute best sex I've ever had... 

After we broke up, tried to date the 30's bracket and outside of physical, it was painful to deal with their immaturity, and other issues. Found someone my own age and it has been great ever since. Of course, I was looking for a real partner and equal, not a piece of meat....

Btw, silvery blue, I think you are sexy as hell! Your post shows real backbone and charisma, and a whole lot more. Which I think intimidates guys.

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Yepper that's exactly what it is. Only its not billed by the hour. 

Im the last person to talk about relationships. Never wanted to be in a committed one. I think they are foolish unless your having children. People drift in and out of my life all the time so why would I expect a single person not too? 

I've likened it to when I'm on a long drive. I notice a car traveling the same direction and speed for hundreds of miles and then it gets off an exit and a new one takes its place. We change over time and without goal congruence and friendship - expect failure. 

Naturally, it's more complicated than that but some people have needs they are compelled to meet. Some crave a trophy wife like she craves a Rolex. Personally I think they both look foolish. But I try not to judge if it's honest. The problem is it usually isn't. 

Animals are so much more uncomplicated which is why I choose them over human mostly. I can understand them. Hell if I can with humans. It IS rather sad! 

@LM I'm not a lezbo so I won't say SB is sexy but I will say she is strong, witty, extremely intelligent, well rounded, well mannered and stands her ground like a pit bull. Which makes her good people in my book.  If I was gay I'd hit on her ..hehe 

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@LM

Umm thanks - not quite what I was aiming at. I think, but then I am not quite sure if I am aiming at anything....

I have "almost" given up on any prospective partner that can stand the scrutiny I think I can withstand.

Be well.

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@Ruffian. I will spare you

Tonight only.

You and I have almost nada in common except that we love the turdmeister, and try to follow his mandate and stand by the turdites in different forums.

We have shared our thoughts on this forum, but I am far from being anyones sexy bitch. I am far too old for that.

Still love to have you as a house guest if you ever visit NZ hun.

"I"Stand by that invite. smiley

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thank you! 

I beat up as hell at the moment. I took a serious fall the other day. Gotta wear a damned back brace for a bit. Good part is they give you lots of drugs. The bad thing is they make you high but don't do a fucking thing for the pain. I'll be using tens and acupuncture in a day or two.  

Admittedly I am one weird coconut but I assure you there are plenty of gentlemen who share your frustration. They are primarily looking for companionship. They did not become successful by being foolish. Also when I began thinking about building a community it was them that I had in mind, only problem was they aren't to thrilled about small space living. 

Id probably be more like you if I had proper female  mentoring but I didn't. Nah, I'd still be weird. 

Thanks for leaving the invitation open. It means a lot to me during times where very little means much to me..... I am coming! 

Btw a big congrats to Canterbury stud as breeder of the year. That IS a big deal winning against the giant commercial breeders. 

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@Ruff have a think about having more egalitarian focus.

that is women being attracted to your community too. Not all are panty waists - and no I'm not talking about gender confused. Apologies for any offense to people reading.

I would dearly love to move to a community where everyone supports and can contribute and teach according to their talents. Community projects for community benefit sort of thing. I would not be attracted to a community of men looking for companionship.

I think i may have linked this before, but here goes again - a little north of me.

http://www.otamatea.org.nz/

Edit Hope your back is getting better smiley

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Ruffian said

"Btw a big congrats to Canterbury stud as breeder of the year. That IS a big deal winning against the giant commercial breeders." 

Thanks for the mention Ruffian. I'm not one to boast but I guess "credit where it is due".

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Was that you @Ata?

Are you Studly_In_Disguise???

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My sincere apologies to SilveryBlue since I thought, up until now, was a dude. Sorry about that.

Nothing she said but just my own statistical bias since there are far more men (and boys) here than women.

To answer your question about "trophy husbands", SB, they do indeed exist and are called "Doctors".

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As for "Cougars", at 70 myself, a cougar for me would be about 90 or 95.  frown

Suddenly, I don't feel so well. I wonder if acid reflux (GERD) can include one's gall bladder and spleen ?

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The Answer to This is Pretty Simple . . .

according to those who study human evolutionary biology. According to them, all creatures, including human beings - do that which will best ensure their survival & that of their offspring. So, in general, women are attracted to men who have the resources to provide for her & their children. And, women are attracted to men who can protect her and their children. Similarly, men are attracted to women who are healthy and fertile. Such women best insure that his genes will survive & thrive in the future.  This is wired into people, even if they may not desire or are physically capable of having children now. And examples that are outside this norm (such as young men with much older women) raise attention.

How individual men & women go about meeting these requirements will vary. That depends on the backgrounds of the individuals including education, social/economic class, personal history & psychology, etc, etc

Some men lament "How come women seem only to care about money? "

Some women lament "How come men seem only interested in young trophy wives?"

Both questions are a distortion of the truth. But there is a core of truth there based in reality.  Women don't find weak bums attractive. Men find young, healthy sexy women attractive.   This may not be what everyone would like to hear. It sure isnt very romantic . . .but it is, what it is.

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@SB

of course it applies to women as well but since I work in an industry that 97% men. They were right in front of my face. It was right about the same time I first heard the Beatles classic Eleanor rigby!  Additionally I was facing the worst time in my life when my bro deserted me. Wham! 

I spoke with a published author and she told me nuns live longer than any other group or ethnicity on earth.  They theorized it's cuz they met one another's social needs. That's where my community idea was birthed from. Contrary to what I say on other threads I'm really for inclusion not exclusion and I certainly have no desire to live like a nun.  Nor am I looking for club med atmosphere. Actually the best way for me to describe it would be self sufficiency. Someplace where one could interact as much or as little as they wanted or were needed. 

Most places have minimums on zoning. I'd prefer maximums. You know the less is more frank Lloyd wright idea.  I don't want to encourage negative competition. Obviously these problems would need to be addressed by those of a greater mind and insight than me. I'd be the snake catcher or some other obnoxious job. 

Basically, I can think of nothing worse than being isolated and/or rejected when you don't want to be. Regardless of what reasons caused that circumstance. 

You SB are a perfect candidate. I'm just not sure if this is possible anymore in the USA. That is another discussion tho. 

YES! My back is great. Thx for asking. I was damned lucky. I was back in saddle already to my surprise. Being on the main track is like amusement park bumper cars. Only you try to avoid collisions. Only an idiot like me pauses to light up 

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That's partially it. Most people won't say what I am going to say because it is socially unacceptable.  However, like it or not humans are evolving and not at the same rate and speed. 

Different species have different reproductive habits. No where is this more obvious than in all of Africa. Anthropologically it's easy to recognize that black males were hunters and warriors. They died younger. The best way to ensure their gene pool continued was to mate with as many females as possible. Enviroment and geology dictated this reproductive strategy. Only it doesn't work as well in other climates. So other strategies were developed. I think we call it culture but I call it reproduction success. Even the other species on that continent use the same strategy. It's rather are to find animals of any kind who mate for life. 

Asian men amuse me the most. Supposedly they are the most monogynous ( how the hell do u spell that). Anyhoo, I've seen them in airports and other places looking at porn while live females are walking right by!!! WTF??? They don't even glance at them. So I tend to believe those studies. I only know a few Asian women actually all are Japanese and they are so docile I wanna shake them. On the other hand I've also been in airports where asian women were meeting their soldier husbands and the first words out of their mouth were : where's  the money honey? Before a hello or embrace so I'll withhold any opinion on them for the time being. But Jays (my bff ) XO on his naval aircraft carrier and his captain had very negative opinions of them. 

Ok that's it for now. All my lil brain can handle at a time. To be cont..... Maybe

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