and a few friends were drinking a few Coronas and cooking out last week and the subject of body armor came up.
Someone asked, "If homeboy security comes to drag me away to a FEMA gulag and he's wearing body armor, where do I aim ? Right away, someone said, "Right between the eyes and triple tap the bastard !"
The cop smiled and said, "Shoot him in the balls!" The other guy said, "No way! The armor will stop the round." The cop said, "body armor is designed to stop penetration but it can't stop energy transfer. Can you imagine what a 45 apc's energy distributed in a six inch circle with your balls in the middle would feel like ? Not to mention his bladder exploding from hydrostatic shock." After a round of groans and some involuntary crotch clutching, we went back to drinking beer.
The video only gives us audio and a visual of the deputy. The citizen did not respond to his question about why he was there. He also refused to comply with the deputy when asked to exit the vehicle. I think he was baiting the deputy. He had his hand on his arm because the deputy was alert and concerned about something. The citizen was being passive aggressive and attempting to control the situation. Another thing in the officers favor is that he called for back up without trying to extract the man forcefully. I think the guy was half a tard for verbally antagonizing /resisting a deputy with spiking adrenaline. Without more info we are guessing. My guess is a neighbor spotted a suspicious vehicle and called the police. The area in question is an upscale community with very little cross traffic. He was not beat up clubbed tazed etc.
Full disclosure is that I knew this deputy in a non work related capacity and always knew him to be a solid dude, not power tripping etc. Knew him his wife etc. nice people. Have also known him to look out for local kids and try to protect them etc.
BIGNASTY wrote: ... Full disclosure is that I knew this deputy in a non work related capacity and always knew him to be a solid dude, not power tripping etc. Knew him his wife etc. nice people. Have also known him to look out for local kids and try to protect them etc.
know the value of being well armed when someone is doing something that they shouldn't. Their S-300 and S-400 air defense missile systems will assure that no more 'accidental' bombing runs are made on Syrian or Russian troops. And their nukes are available if it comes down to their being threatened with a "live independent or die" choice.
What does this have to do with this thread ? It's the same principle, just on a different scale. 'Special snow flake' libtards may deny this, but it's the way of this world. (Oh, those same libtards have absolutely no qualms about violence being used against you. As long as they don't have to be personally endangered & determine the target of the police and military.)
We will never give up the natural right which is acknowledged in the 2nd Amendment.
Great post Dyna. The OODA loop and reaction time both provide difficulties in situations like these. The officers cannot be faulted for staying ahead of the loop with uncooperative individuals.
A Forensic science website has gone to court for LEO for years now with testimony for officers who had shoots that were considered questionable because of entry wound location and many other factors regarding how fast things can change after the decision has been made. Just the reaction time of .5 to .75 for the quick well trained person offers a lot of time for something to go bad if they are not ahead of the loop.
Scenario training is a huge enlightenment to those who have ever had the opportunity to preform with the laser guns and video, especially with someone shooting back with airsoft.
Thought his name was Betraus...................
Wow, 10 months with no good stuff?
On the annual Colorado trip this year, we stopped in Pagosa Springs for the night. That evening we ventured out on the town for some Texmex and margaritas. While walking the river we came upon a group of 200 or more in full western garb having a six gun fast draw compitition. This was in the middle o f town next to the main highway. Blew my mind.
We watched for about an hour. Some pretty fast gunslingers. Most shot in the .5 sec area while the fastest were .4. .385 sec was fastest time we observed. Piqued my interest to say the least.
National organization, monthly compitition at different locale usually in different states. Pretty good prizes, money and firearms.
now the specifics. 45 LC, Period weapon design, ie single shot six shooter, Ruger is a sponsor so Vaquero is prominent along with some Colt, Uberti also. Trigger jobs are ok, but no slip shooting (trigger pull is required). 1880's garb and handle (code name like Yosemite Sam). They even had a dude named Duke that was a spitting image of John Wayne! 6^4 200# about 70 yrs old.
The rounds were wax! No shit. You can order them by the box, hand press with your finger. 45LC brass has been drilled to take shotgun primers, no powder, 700 fps. Pretty freaking cool.
Targets are steel plate, 24" diameter at 24 feet. Timer system is auto. Light blinks, you go, it registers from the blink to round strike. You have to hit plate to count.
so, after getting back, I made some calls. I was shocked that a Ruger Vaquero cost $600+, blued. Add a hundred for nickel. Plus a $150 trigger job, $200 belted holster setup. A Cool grand to get started, ouch. Time to put out some feelers. Pawn shop buddies, gunsmiths, nada. A shop about 30 miles away has 2 @ $500 ea. Finally 2 weeks ago a pawn shop buddy calls on Friday morning and tells me he had one come out of the back this morning, my price in the next hour $325! I jumped on my horse and beat a trail down there. Sure nough, Ruger Vaquero 45 LC 4.6" barrel, nice action, nickel. I was finishing up paperwork when the owner froom the gunshop 30 miles away walkyd in. Turns out he stops by on Fridays and buys the deals, reason why I had to be there quick.
Now to order the wax bullets and drilled cases.
Next to find, 1903A3 Springfield in WWI specs for under $900.