That is gross. I can never un-see that.
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I was thinking I should respond to your nice post from last night,
and then you go and do that.
And you claim that we're the ones having thoughts beamed into our heads by nefarious entities.
Yes, it was politically incorrect/distasteful to imply that the man is carrying out his Freudian Penis complex. But then again, he sued a man for calling him an Orangutan. Sued a Miss America contest for millions (she was just a kid in college) for saying bad things about him. You pull up that list yet?
I don't claim or theorize anything. It's a fact. It's a science. There has been overwhelming evidence posted here that the group has summarily dismissed as being anything of significance for a man that is going to occupy the Oval Office. It is being tracked daily. And it's even more than the science of brain condition. You're minimizing it becauase you are the effect of it. It's more than the entrainment that Austin Fitts noted. It's the alienation part. Where people are so pissed off they take his words at face value. He threatens people with death and physical violence and it is applauded as a necessary step in taking back our liberties.
Of course, I know that for the majority here that they will dismiss all well thought out, well supported evidence and think with blind emotions. And in that scenario, Fix is absolutely right. Dead on right. That is a perfect fractal of Hitler or at least the conditions that existed for the populace to allow him to come into the position of power. They would have castrated me back in the day in Germany for saying the equivalent of what I am saying now. Whether he is a perfect fractal of the game plan, I don't think so. Hitler was going against the zionist. Trump seems to be working for them. Too early to say. Things are being revealed slowly.
You make my point by everything else you say. It's all about feelings'. He makes you feel good. Inspires women who have little experience as adults. Feelings....That's the point. I'm not thinking with feelings. I'm looking at reality. The reality of the finances, the reality of what occurred in Europe and how they are pulling the same trick, I'm looking at a man who has used the legal system to decimate people that spoke out against him to the tune of millions of dollars.
Even Ruffian has the feeling mojo that taps deep into your collective pain. She and who else is gonna take down the establishment. And you all buy it. She digs deep into the collective pain of America that is so prevelant here. Well, I'm not so alienated that I refuse to see reality for what it is and put my hope on Trump. No, I'm not crossing to the otherside unless I see one rational, not feeling arguement or even a statement about his game plan and how that resolve the issues that so deeply bug you. You're the only guy of the group that is even tried to make a rationale arguement for Trump. The totallity of the arguements all put together amount to scribble. Simply because you are all coming from emotion. Collective anger and that's how he has his hooks into you.
We've had 85 some incursions into S. America forcing populations North into Central America then Mexico. Untold coups in the middle east and S. America. We've destabilized regions, been the silent partner of massacres from Pinoget electrocuting citizens in puddles, to stirring up angry Muslims in the middle east. Time after time, we've instigated the problems that are now coming home to roost. Cliff even presented a document that showed how we are even writing the script for the Muslims. We even control their religion.
How many Military incursions have Muslims made on US soil??? NONE. We won't go into 9-11 since now that it is being used to dig into the collective anger, I have to wonder which parts of the alternative narratives are bullshit and which parts are for real. I would need a research team at my disposal 24/7 for a time to dig through the documents and sources. That aside, what military might do fundamental muslims have? NONE!! But somehow the group overlooks it. How many cruise missiles are pointed at Washington, Columbus Ohio?? NOne, how many do we have pointing at countries? How many Saudi's wake up in the morning, look out their window, and see a frigade of US Warships protecting "our interests"
They aren't a threat to our liberties. We are. Rome, Greece, The former Soviety Union didn't collapse from external threats. It collapsed from within. The Cold War was a lie that everybody believed.
And the only reply that gets people all stirred up is I don't know how the Mexicans are getting here and I don't care. That's the collective intellegence of the group? That's what's going into the voting booths. You IRB can read. YOu obviously have cognition, ability to see cause and effect. So the answer boils down to change immigration policy when it's the entire foreign policy of the United States Government that has caused the problems.
I know you are no fan of the libertarians but sorry to say Ron Paul is the only guy that could see the causes to your worries and instead of putting creme on the pimple, he would have cleaned out the entire system until they executed him. Yes, it was a pipe dream that I never believed. But that's not the point. He is educating people on what is causing the disease. He is not a power hungry, tycoon. He is a sincere man that cares and that's why even after his retirement from politics he still goes around speaking to the citizens about what he experienced in congress. Trump not so much. Trump's history is abysmally. There hasn't been one, NOT ONE, post about his history. I mean everything, woman, wine, fights, legal bullshit etc.... No history, no thoughtful analysis of his policies. All you do is repeat what he says and take it at face values. He knows shit about history. But so do the people listening to him. They understand rhetoric and pure emotion.
And you would take exception to my Jonathan Swift-esque painting? Swift understood a few things about humanity. It's why he thought most people were schmucks. (I don't know the Irish equivalent) Another smart Irish guy.
Worth taking the time to download the book. He used satire and humor to make change and he did a better job at making change than anybody I see in the public eye. He saved Ireland from the bankers with a little book called a Modest Proposal. Well, I'm taking a page out of his book. If Trump wants to sue me, send him a copy of the small dick picture. He's gonna have to sue alot of American's because that baby is circulating by those that see his crafty tricks and would rather eat dirt than pull the lever in a voting booth.
Look, I'm not gonna get on some 19 year olds ass about her choices. She did what she thought was best and so let the chips fall where they may. It's not even about who is going to win. BTW, besides the protests in Chicago, did you bother to read the rest of the articles I posted from Daily Bell. I mean after all that you still believe that he is not being put up to something. It's a forum and it's a feel good, touchy, let's bitch about the problems. But in real life, you have to deal with the evidence. A forum where ego's are bucking, not so much. There is a massive refusal to deal with what is now mountains of evidence, something stinks to high hell. So I give you credit in that at least you've responded to some of them. Not convincingly to me, but you had the courtesy to do it. So you get some points in my book.
Two things: no comments on how long my post was. Took two minutes to write was on my mind. I'm sure you can rip them out too. Two, I am not angry at the millions that have voted for Trump and will eventually vote for him. I am in Scott Adams camp and see the sponge like characteristics that made it happen. But it's not personal. Anymore than I"m angry at a rain cloud for ruining my day. It is what it is. You see what you see. And refuse to see what you refuse to. So, I don't take it personally. But in a space that is dedicated to looking out into the world and putting some meaning behind it, I'm not going be delicate because the majority think Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. I live here too you know and have some invested interest in the future of our country. His Words mean nothing. His past track record, and looking behind the curtain begins to paint a picture very different than what you are espousing. . But to date, the only thing I've read here is people saying he's anti-establishment and he handles the media and calls them out. It's a game.
And let's talk about his possible VP. Christie. He is a punk too. Figured, I'd start the love fest. Give you guys time to come up with your support speach. He is probably being indoctrinated right now. Told what to say, what to do, how to say it. But he's gonna be famous. Christie probably in a room right now with Richard Bandler and Tony Robbins getting trained. He needs it more than Trump. Because living right next to the guy, New Jersey/New York, I can tell ya, he is a punk too. We'll get into the details later. The movie is just beginning. Get ya popcorn.
And oh yeah, he closed the George Washington bridge, and he knew about it. Just a little local inside matter. Fix is probably familiar with the case.
ag1969 wrote: That is gross. I can never un-see that.
It's true that it will never get any wall space in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
Not so much because the painting is poorly done. But the Museum has strict rules about proportions. Can you tell that Trump isn't Greek?
Logic and satire, a wicked combination
Silver66 Rage against the dying of the light
" You make my point by everything else you say. It's all about feelings'. He makes you feel good. Inspires women who have little experience as adults. Feelings....That's the point. I'm not thinking with feelings. I'm looking at reality. "
I thought you'd get the sarcasm about the 19 year old girl feelings / unifier part. I wouldn't even have them voting at all. But I'm not so sure about your dispassionate logic. So much effort to discredit him and mischaracterize possible motivations for his support, and then going for such a visceral shot with that picture. I think Trump makes you have a feel. It's ok, to have a feel. But you should embrace it and make it your own, not deny it.
" How many Military incursions have Muslims made on US soil??? NONE. We won't go into 9-11 since now that it is being used to dig into the collective anger, I have to wonder which parts of the alternative narratives are bullshit and which parts are for real. I would need a research team at my disposal 24/7 for a time to dig through the documents and sources. That aside, what military might do fundamental muslims have? NONE!! But somehow the group overlooks it. How many cruise missiles are pointed at Washington, Columbus Ohio?? NOne, how many do we have pointing at countries? How many Saudi's wake up in the morning, look out their window, and see a frigade of US Warships protecting "our interests"
I don't even consider Muslims to be the enemy. No need to be here, but not the enemy. It's like you're just unloading every argument you've accumulated against a strawman made out of shredded New York Times op-eds. You should've seen enough of what I write here to know who I'd want him to go after (not that he will). I hope he is vengeful. I don't know who he'd really be after by choice, but I see all the ones signing up for his (theoretical) enemies list. I'd much rather leave the middle east alone and cleanse our own streets of the kind of rabble you saw attacking families on Friday in Chicago. Not that he will, of course. But I keep saying that his support is a step in a direction I like (people moving toward more populism and less fear of being called names), and you keep telling me that waves are being beamed into my head that make me revere him and put hope into him.
" All you do is repeat what he says and take it at face values. "
That's just a ridiculous statement. The first comment I made about Trump here (IIRC) was that 'he is the man of his age. The first troll president for a country that so deserves to be trolled'. When I mentioned registering I included a cartoon of a green troll (Pepe, by name) as Trump nuzzling the flag. Is it supportive? Sure. Is it anything remotely like the hero worship, and getting tricked, and soaring hopes that he'll 'fix' something? You're telling me now that I'm placing my hopes and fears in Trump to save this great nation. But I told you years ago that I want it to come apart. 5 nations, maybe more, IMHO. And no, lest you be tempted to make some weird claim, I'm not saying Trump will do that. I'm saying that you should stop responding to some caricature the news showed you of an enthralled Trump supporter. It's a joke you're not in on. It's a joke that might be on me, he's trolling somebody, it might be me. And that's why it gets funnier every day on my end, and more frustrating every day on yours. At worst, it's a delightful debacle watching people trip all over themselves. At best, he really IS the man of your deepest fears.
Pinoget [sic] electrocuting [subversive communists] in puddles
Fixed it for you.
People say Trumps wall idea is crazy. China built a wall, and guess how many Mexicans they have.
In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Takes me a while to catch up. Whatever happened to the manipulations taking place to keep Obama in power forever?
Edit Whoops I see atarangi already posted a distraction. Oh well.
No, sorry I didn’t catch the sarcasm. But I”m glad you take the time to point it out. So I’ll reread again and with you pointing it out, I’ll see if it is more obvious or if it comes across at all. I am 100% certain there is constant misunderstanding that never gets worked out. So again, hats off for taking the time to do that.
I am not discrediting Donald Trump. I am pointing out a large percentage of facts!! Well substantiated ones. Ones that people are free to offer counter point of views point by point instead of countering with emotions and vague idea’s. The speculation is not on his technique, his idea's but on the greater motivation at work. Seeing through him is really not that difficult and seeing through the issues of people that support him are not that difficult.
The Great Muslim Invasion was discussed for months upon months ad nauseum in connection with Donald Trumps campaign. And it is one of the reasons many support him. He knows which buttons to press.
In case, it wasn’t clear, I’m not a Muslim, and you probably will never find me in a Mosque. What they do with their penis’s and their women is their issue to content with. Doesn’t bother me what other people do as long as they don’t do it in my house. I summarized Ron Paul’s extensive article on why the great Muslim invasion is bullshit. Not that I think he gives a hoot either about their religion. But he’s pointing out the facts of our military might vs theirs and how we influence it. That’s not a mischaracterization. You calling it a mischaracterization is a a mischaracterization.
It’s a study that is well thought out and supported. You (the collective) begin to muddy the waters when you can’t separate your feels about races, religions and cultures and mix with it your politics. When you can’t separate it, you are open to be run by others.
I don't even consider Muslims to be the enemy.
Let me buy you a drink. You would have just saved me a few sentences. You do realize it’s a danger to your fine public reputation in this forum to come to any agreement with me. Those magical hat tips could start evaporating. And my apologies for mixing you in with that group.
You should've seen enough of what I write here to know who I'd want him to go after (not that he will).
I’ve read a lot of your stuff and I remember a lot of our past discussions. But for the sake of completion and staying in current time, don’t let me guess. Just state it. Let me clear so if we are going to continue this there is no chance for miscommunication and misinterpretation.
I'd much rather leave the middle east alone and cleanse our own streets of the kind of rabble you saw attacking families on Friday in Chicago.
Big conversation. Complex one Let’s put it on the clip board. But since you mention it. Were you one of the people that that the Organize/protest wall street movement (forget the name of the movement) was some natural organic phenomena? . You do know Soro’s money was moving around that movement. I won’t say he gave it directly but some of the organizations involved had Soro’s money. You know the guy is a creep and where he shows up you gotta be careful to recognize that it is never what it seems. The wall street protests were a garden variety class warfare, conquer and divide. Another words, more often than not, the "scum" in the street are having the strings pulled by big money.
Now Soro’s shows up against Trump. But it wasn’t always that way Check out who financed the great Trump Tower in New York where on occasion I like to check out the quality of the soap at the bottom of the urinal. Soro’s and Trump have a history and it wasn’t adversarial. My how things change. Where there is smoke there is fire.
That's just a ridiculous statement.
You are 110% absolutely correct!!! Hands down, I was wrong to put you in with the other contigent that is watching this debate with me. Because what you are saying is much different form the PAB that was being written here for months. And I’ve made the same mistake lumping you in with that group that doesn’t take the time to make these fine shades of differences. Now if you keep taking the time to write lengthy replies and clarify your views, you’re gonna loose your power. And hopefully, you don’t care,which I think is the case. But now it’s looking like there are more than two sides to the public sentiment as expressed in this forum.
I don’t watch the MSM. It watches me. I may grab a headline or two when I log in and my internet carrier flashes in front of me. My news sources are very very limited, more limited than what’s gets posted here as news. But what I see of enthralled Trump supporters isn’t from the MSM. It’s from real life, real people. It’s from right here on Turdville and a little bit of social network. It’s the same memes repeated over and over again, Muslims are real threat, more recently trump is going to save us from a socialist nation etc…. Where is that coming from? There are volumes of these discussions right here.
I’m not saying the racial demographic isn’t changing and isn’t a problem for a lot of people. I see it everyday. Do you know of a city in the United States that is more of a melting pot than New York City? I've been in just about ever major city in this country and NYC has no close cousin for what it is. A melting pot. Not Boston, LA, Chicago, or Washington. It's the best of worlds (extreme wealth) and the worst of worlds.
No need for me to go to the NYTImes or other mainstream rags. It’s the old Jewish guy in the street, the old Irish woman I help with her groceries who is afraid to cross the street and doesn't like the look of people she see's because they are different than what it used to be. They are truly scared. I understand it. It's not the way it used to be, never will be and never was.
Some of it is reality, increased crime, unstable people, high prices. And some of it's imagined. But some of it is that they are really old and don’t understand the Asian Immigration, The South American, Central America Immigration. the Irish moved out to their own enclave and she didn’t. The Jews moved to Forest Hills and some didn’t. The Greeks moved to their section of town and now you have 70 and 80 year old people wondering where the Jewish butcher went, where their favorite Irish Bar went and are being forced to live in a world that is foreign to them. The thing is I get along with the Chinese owners and the Mexican fruit guys no different than the Jewish Butcher and Irish bar owner. They all want the samething. A nice place to live and send their kids on to have a better life. ALL OF THEM.
I have tons of supermarkets near me. Everything you can imagine. But the old Irish lady only wants to buy a couple of banana’s and nobody will sell her a couple of bananas anymore There is some Ecuadorians and Mexicans that have a fruit and vegetable truck that wouldn’t sell it to her so I went with her and asked them to sell the old woman a banana and separate the bundle. Of course, they didn’t have to. It’s their product but you see she’s old, on a limited income. I told them I’ll buy all their fucking banana’s, sell the old people what they need to eat. Be of service to the community that feeds you. It's just good business. I even explain to them about the old neighborhood and you need to make friends with the old people and the new people. They listen if you take the time to tell them things others don’t.
I see all the old people trying to break the banana’s or want to buy a couple of tomato’s. Service them for crying out loud. Used to be Jewish, Greek, Italian markets in my neighborhood. Now it’s Chinese, and Latin American. People used to go into the Jewish butcher and they didn’t have their social security check. They’d say no problem Ms. Goldbaum. What do you want? Just pay me when your check arrive. Now, I’m not blaming the Chinese and Mexicans for their business practice. The old days are gone. The old days were about small business’s serving the small person. The exchange was based on trust. Based on being of service. Now it’s every penny. That’s not a Chinese or Mexican problem, that’s an economic problem.
I can't break the major parties. Either can you. That's just emotion. But you can make your neighborhood run a little smoother, help a few folks out and maybe explain to them what's going on the world so they aren't the victims of fear mongering. Donald Trump doesn't bother me as much as you suggest. But it bothers me that innocent people are effected by it and they live in fear.
I'd rather light a candle than curse the dark. I'm always going to be a little Jonathan Swift, Henry thoreaux's and believe humanity has a disease. Swift had no use for 99% of human beings and Thoreaux just ran away from all of it. I don't think that's the move but I understand where they are coming from.
Actually I think Green Lantern has bucket loads of valid points on Trump.
My only counter point is who the heck else is realistically worth taking a punt on.
I would have loved Ron Paul to be in charge but that ain't gonna happen.
And thanks Ruffian, you come up with some great insights.
He sees what the pseudo intellectuals, highly paid pundit monkeys, think tank pay for play sages, and other mouthpieces for the establishment have failed to see. They didn’t see the 2008 black swan coming and they fail to grasp the black swan flying into their midst today. Taleb understands unexpected events of large magnitude and consequence and their dominant role in history. Trump is an extreme outlier who will play a large role in sweeping away the existing establishment. The “experts” foisted upon the masses by the dying legacy media are clueless as to what is really happening.
“The problem with experts is that they do not know what they do not know”
― Nassim Nicholas Taleb, The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable
Trump’s blunt, angry, provocative, anti-establishment message has struck a chord among millions of disaffected Americans who have been ignored, abused, scorned, and shit on by the elitist establishment, banking cabal, corrupt politicians and government apparatchiks. The Deep State establishment has overstepped their bounds. Their ravenous pillaging of the national wealth through outsourcing millions of American jobs, largest mortgage control fraud in history, and outrageous gall in shifting their losing bets onto the backs of hard working Americans is about to bite them in the ass. https://www.theburningplatform.com/
Ruffian wrote: I have no idea what GL intended with that pic.
Because you choose to ignore what you don't want to see. I explained it. Just so you know, I didn't paint the picture so now you can ask what political commentary the artist had in mind. HINT: I told you.
The most effective political commentary is not the type of conversations we are having. People don't read, people don't seek out clarification on the things they don't understand. It is why George Carlin was so spectacularly successful. He was able to use humor, satire to bring to your attention things that you would not have ordinarly recognized but did so through humor. If a nude picture is so distateful and 1/2 of what Trump says is not, Houston, we got even bigger problems.
Silver 66 did you a big favor by saving you the effort of seeking out a Modest Proposal. Swift was the Carlin of his time and maybe even more effective that he single handedly took down the bankers and stopped the manufacturing of fake money in Ireland.
And as for what Ron Paul accomplished you might want to look a bit closer at the facts. ,the only guy who had the nerve to look Bernake in the eye and raise a shiny coin infront of Congress and a national audience.
He sponsored, co sponsered 1000's of original bills that would have addressed your concerns on immigration without all the heroism and Clint Eastwood tactics. Does anybody remember any of them??? Why? Does anybody question why Trump's proposed legislation looks nothing like the ones that would have brought back the constitution? Is it because nobody is on a podium talking about it being delievered into your head. Is it because our discussions are more reactive than proactive?
He addressed your immigration problems. He addressed terrorism and he didn't exclaim to the world that we have to find out what's going on. He knew what was going on.
He knew what he was doing. He was entering legistlation that was nothing more than legislation that would kill all the stupid political law that congress was passing and would bring us back to a more constitutional republic. Like pilots can carry guns to defend themselves. Oh my God. And getting the IRS out of your pockets and doing away with draconian laws and taxes? Ya think Trump is gonna let the pilots defend themselves? If he does a built a wall (he won't) YOU are gonna pay for it. Not the MExicans. Of course, Ron knew that the threat of a muslim invasion was highly exaggerated but once a while a crazy loon does act out.
But did the populis scream from the top of the mountain in support of Ron Paul??? Did they hit the streets? Did you and others spend six months discussion his legislation?? NO!! He didn't make inroads because you and the population didn't seem to be stirred up emotionally by common sense. There was no frenzy, no entertainment, no funny hair pictures, no naked pictures. Ron Paul required that you go to him and that you the citizen's create the frenzy. Not some man, who does it for you.
I opened my laptop this morning to your Picture of Donald Trump, and got a good laugh out of it.
I must say, your posts have put some real teeth into my basic premise.
As a side note, I spent enough time studying the 9/11 issue, (Whodunit) and where Donald Trump's loyalties lie, and have concluded that they are one and the same.
A careful exploration of the Zionist agenda reveals that the Don is right on script.
Did you watch "JFK to 911 a rich man's trick"? There's some pretty good research there.
Along the same lines, this also explains it well, but from a slightly different perspective:
I have been spending a lot bit less time online, and a bit more time doing research. (I've been working a lot too).
The task of reconciling our legal system with natural/Spiritual/ cosmic laws, is time consuming.
I've been studying the "art of cross examination", and plan on using a lot of the material that explains why there's no such thing as a good cop, on the lying sack of shit who has forced me into this predicament.
Although I have a specific goal in mind, actually a few of them, just the process of learning this stuff is highly beneficial.
If I get good enough to present it in public, (which is my goal), I should be able to carry it into many other areas as well.
My specific training here, will also make me a much better anarchist than I ever was before.
It's a process.
Yeah, it's long, and it's tedious, but humiliating a cop on the stand is the task at hand.
Perry Mason, eat your heart out!
Trump will capitalize on his reputation as a truth-teller, and be vicious about both Clinton’s sudden changes of position (e.g. the switch on gay marriage , plus the affected economic populism of her run against Sanders) and her perceived dishonesty. One can already imagine the monologue:
“She lies so much. Everything she says is a lie. I’ve never seen someone who lies so much in my life. Let me tell you three lies she’s told. She made up a story  about how she was ducking sniper fire! There was no sniper fire. She made it up! How do you forget a thing like that? She said she was named  after Sir Edmund Hillary, the guy who climbed Mount Everest. He hadn’t even climbed it when she was born! Total lie! She lied about the emails , of course, as we all know, and is probably going to be indicted. You know she said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! It was a lie! Thousands of American soldiers are dead because of her. Not only does she lie, her lies kill people. That’s four lies, I said I’d give you three. You can’t even count them. You want to go on PolitiFact, see how many lies  she has? It takes you an hour to read them all! In fact, they ask her, she doesn’t even say she hasn’t lied. They asked her straight up , she says she usually tries to tell the truth! Ooooh, she tries! Come on! This is a person, every single word out of her mouth is a lie. Nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Yuge liar.”
At a White House news conference in October 2015, after Russia started their bombing campaign in Syria, Barack Obama predicted"An attempt by Russia and Iran to prop up Assad and try to pacify the population is just going to get them stuck in a quagmire and it won't work."
Not only did Putin achieve his goals, but in the process he just made Obama eat his own words
Russia entered Syria with one overriding objective: Preserve the Assad regime. To avoid another Afghanistan-style quagmire, Russia relies on fighters from its Shi’ite allies, including Assad, Hezbollah and Iran. By picking a clear and achievable goal and then ensuring that Moscow and its allies all rowed in one direction, Putin enacted a textbook proxy strategy.
Washington’s Syrian policy, meanwhile, remains a hopeless muddle. At various points the Obama administration insisted that “Assad must go” — and that Assad can stay. Its objectives have been to degrade and destroy Islamic State, reject broader cooperation with Moscow and partner in peace talks with Moscow.
While Russian planes and pilots recieved a "hero's welcome" at home, foriegn papers are declaring Putin's success as helping Assad survive Western attempts to force a regime change, "the biggest shift in geopolitical influence in the Middle East since the 1956 Suez Crisis."
"Electoral participation, in any way, shape, or form is counter-productive because it help foster the facade of participatory democracy and the belief that piecemeal reform is possible. Also, as long as we accept the bankers’ myth that the system can be changed peacefully from within, the bankers and the system are safe. Some of our best people take part in this charade either as candidates or supporters, deluding themselves that anything at all can come from their electoral toil. Imagine all that energy and good will channeled into a strategy that could possibly work! Electoral politics cannot work for many reasons. To begin with, how can we tell whether our champion is indeed our champion? How do we know that she would prefer probable death by saying no to the bankers to joining the fairly exclusive multimillionaire club by saying yes? What guarantees do the people have that she will not break every single promise?" https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/10/sanders-trump-smokescreen/