Looking at the chart I posted in #261 (As we exit 2016 $Silver still in a bear market for silver) I had this thought...the 1980 peak in silver was followed by a bear market that lasted until the final low of $3.51 in 1991. A new bull started here, Wave 1 and ended at $7.40 in 1998( the Warren Buffet peak). Then corrective wave 2 ended at $4.01 in late 2001. Then wave 3 ended at $49.82 in April of 2011. Then corrective wave 4 ended at $13.62 in December 2015. We are now in wave 5. I know there are measuring tools with Elliot wave to guestimate where wave 5 will go to but if it is about equal to wave 3 then we could see silver at $130 to $150.
Wave 5 =
equality to wave 1
wave 1 x 1.618
not exceeding wave 3
five completed sub waves
when wave 5 contains an extended wave 1st 3rd or 5th that makes a total count of nine for the total wave five
volume and momentum divergence against a higher high at wave three top, can help to locate the top of wave 5 whereby volume and momentum make a new but lower high
and a failed wave five (no new high over the third wave top) might top at 0.618 x wave 1 (but have a fully complete internal count)
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Silver’s Use in Solar Sector Surged 34 Percent, Posts New Record
(New York City – May 11, 2017) Global silver mine production in 2016 recorded its first decline since 2002, largely the result of lower by-product output from the lead/zinc and gold sectors. Coupled with less silver scrap supply to the market, which posted its lowest level since 1996, as well as a contraction in producer hedging, total silver supply decreased by 32.6 million ounces (Moz) in 2016. Moreover, new highs were recorded for silver’s use in the photovoltaic and ethylene oxide sectors, both growing and significant industrial applications for silver. These findings, and other key components of the silver market, are discussed in World Silver Survey 2017, released today by the Silver Institute and produced on its behalf by the GFMS Team at Thomson Reuters (GFMS).
Global silver mine production declined by 0.6 percent in 2016 to a total of 885.8 Moz. A large proportion of the drop was attributable to the lead/zinc and gold sectors, where production dipped by a combined 15.9 Moz. On a regional basis, Mexico registered the largest drop in production last year, followed by Australia and Argentina, yet those losses were partially offset by gains in Central and South America and Asia. Even so, Mexico was again the world’s largest silver producing country, followed by Peru, China, Chile and Russia.
Primary silver mine production grew by 1 percent to realize 30 percent of total silver mine output last year. Lead/zinc mines contributed 35 percent of 2016 by-product output, followed by copper mines at 23 percent and gold mining at 12 percent.
Silver scrap supply fell to 139.7 Moz in 2016, a level not seen since 1996, despite higher silver prices. The contraction was largely driven by lower Asian flows, due in part to lower industrial fabrication volumes. Scrap supply from the industrialized world was also muted, as partial jumps in flows from the United Kingdom and Europe in general, offset falls in North America and Japan.
In other areas of silver supply, GFMS reports that again government sales of silver were essentially non-existent last year, while in 2016, delta-adjusted silver hedging by producers contracted by 18.4 Moz.
World Silver Supply and Demand (million ounces)
(totals may not add due to rounding)
Mine Production 890.8 885.8
Net Government Sales––
Scrap 141.11 39.7
Net Hedging Supply 7.8-18.4
Total Supply 1,039.7 1,007.1
Jewelry 228.3 207.0
Coins & Bars 290.7 206.8
Silverware 62.9 52.1
Industrial Fabrication 569.6 561.9
Electrical & Electronics 245.9 233.6
Brazing Alloys & Solders 61.5 55.4
Photography 46.6 45.2
Photovoltaic 57.2 76.6
Ethylene Oxide 10.2 10.2
Other Industrial 148.4 141.0
Physical Demand 1,151.5 1,027.8
Physical Surplus/Deficit -111.8 -20.7
ETP Inventory Build -17.7 47.0
Exchange Inventory Build 12.6 79.8
Net Balance -106.7 -147.5
Silver Price, $per oz. 15.68 17.14
Silver Price and Investment
The annual average silver price posted an impressive 9.3 percent increase in 2016, its first rise since 2011. Assisting the price was last year’s supply and demand scenario, which led to another annual silver market deficit, the largest in three years and the third largest on record, reaching 147.5 Moz. The average price last year, at US$17.14, registered 28 percent higher than 2007, when the silver price averaged US$13.38.
Identifiable investment, which consists of physical bar investment, coins & medals purchases, and additions or drawdowns to exchange traded products (ETP) holdings, retreated 7 percent from the level achieved in 2015 to 253.8 Moz last year. To put this in a broader context, this level of investment was still 23 percent higher than the average over the decade preceding 2015. Holdings in global ETPs increased robustly by 47 Moz last year, posting an all-time high in October.
Silver coin and medals fabrication fell by 9 percent in 2016, from its record high in 2015, to 123.2 Moz. Even so, coin and medal fabrication was still at its second highest level this century. Silver bar investment fell by 46 percent, mainly the result of lackluster demand in India due to a combination of higher prices, destocking and government measures on unaccounted wealth. Notably, increases in bar demand occurred in Germany and the United Kingdom.
Silver Fabrication Demand
Total physical demand fell by 11 percent in 2016 to 1,027.8 Moz, pulled lower by weaker offtake for jewelry, silverware and retail investment. Industrial applications, the largest component of physical silver demand, accounted for 55 percent of total physical silver demand last year, and were marginally lower by just 1 percent, reaching 561.9 Moz. The United States experienced another healthy rise in this sector, the second in succession, jumping 9 percent over 2015 volumes, while Japan posted a 6 percent rise in silver industrial fabrication. Elsewhere demand was dragged lower by softer economic conditions with declines in China, Africa, South America and Europe.
Silver demand for photovoltaic applications posted a noteworthy 34 percent rise to reach 76.6 Moz. This growth was the strongest since 2010 and driven by a 49 percent increase in global solar panel installations. Silver’s use in the ethylene oxide industry grew at the margin, yet it was a record performance for the sector supported by a 6 percent rise in global capacity.
Silver jewelry fabrication declined 9 percent to 207 Moz from the record level of 228.3 Moz set in 2015. The loss was led by China and India, where jewelry offtake was materially weaker due to higher silver prices and a build-up of stocks. Demand was stronger however in Indonesia, Vietnam, and the United States, which had a 12 percent increase in jewelry fabrication, reaching 16.1 Moz last year. Globally, silverware declined by 17 percent to 52.1 Moz with higher silver prices accounting for the bulk of the fall.
Silver’s use in electrical and electronic applications, as well as its use in brazing alloys, fell last year, victims of a still sluggish global economy. Photographic demand fell by just 3 percent in 2016 to 45.2 Moz, representing the lowest percentage decline since 2004, potentially indicating that the bulk of structural change in the photography market is over and that current fabrication volumes may be largely sustainable.
*** Oh yeah, you want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn? Cheap?***
Confirmation that silver price has bottomed in late 2015?
But is there an updated USGS report about how much silver's left in the earth's crust? Last I saw was 2004/05 report.
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GFMS: Silver Market Reversing To Small Surplus In 2017 ** and guess who caused this? That's right YOU!! SILVER STACKERS!. Now get some faith and start stacking!** End of rant... Silverwood
Allen Sykora Thursday November 16, 2017 09:37
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(Kitco News) - The global silver market will be in a small supply surplus in 2017 after previously posting a deficit for four years in a row, according to the GFMS/Silver Institute interim market review released Wednesday night.
The 2017 surplus was pegged at 32.2 million ounces. In recent years, a supply deficit had narrowed from 136.4 ounces in 2013 to 18.9 million as of 2016.
Johann Wiebe, lead analyst for the GFMS team at Thomson Reuters, presented the report at the annual silver industry dinner hosted in New York City by the Silver Institute. Data for the report is compiled by GFMS.
The silver price averaged $17.13 an ounce for the year through Nov. 10, compared to $17.23 for the same period last year, the consultancy said. For the full year, GFMS predicted an average of $17.13, only a penny less than $17.14 in 2016.
Total silver supply is forecast to be roughly flat in 2017 at 1 billion ounces, as slightly higher scrap supply and a drop in net de-hedging are expected to offset lower mine production, the report said. Global mine output is on pace to reach 869.7 million ounces this year, which would be a year-on-year drop of 2%. This reflects lower production in the first half of the year, with steep declines in Chile and Australia, GFMS said. Still, 2017 global production is forecast to be just 3% below the 2015 record.
After five consecutive years of declines, global scrap supply is forecast to rise 1% this year to 141.6 million ounces, driven largely by higher Asia flows. GFMS attributed this to improved industrial-fabrication demand that generated higher volumes of fabrication waste.
Meanwhile, total physical demand is forecast to drop by 5% in 2017 to 976.1 million ounces, led by a sharp fall in retail investment, although an upturn in silverware demand and a modest recovery in jewelry and industrial fabrication should help to offset some of that decline, the report said.
Industrial fabrication is forecast to rise by 3% this year to 581.4 million ounces, the report said. This follows a modest year-on-year decline in 2016. The improvement this year is the result of gains in demand for silver from the solar industry and modest increases for electronics and brazing alloys and solders, GFMS said.
The demand from the solar industry is forecast to increase by 20% in 2017 to nearly 92 million ounces. Worldwide solar cell production increased to 96,460 megawatts, driven largely by a strong rise in solar cell production in China, up by 27% year-on-year to 71,400 MW, following a 37% year-on-year increase the previous year. Solar-panel installations in China jumped by more than 50% from 2016, boosted by subsidy policies implemented by regional governments, GFMS said.
Demand for silver coins and bars is forecast to drop by a 37% year-on-year to 130.1 million ounces, generally hurt by an appetite for riskier assets as stock markets rose, the report said.... **This is just pathetic!!!**
However, jewelry fabrication is expected to recover 1% to 207.1 million ounces. Asian demand has eased, largely due to lower offtake in China, although this has been partly offset by stronger demand in India, the report said. Meanwhile, North American jewelry demand is expected to rebound this year on improving economic sentiment.
Silverware fabrication is seen rising by 10% year-on-year to 57.5 million ounces, the report said. The increase is led by a strong uptick in Indian fabrication demand, which should hit a two-year
high of 38.2 million ounces, helped by a good monsoon in the previous year, GFMS said.
Net inflows into exchange-traded products are expected to reach 14.9 million ounces this year, and there also is likely to be an 18.5 million-ounce drop in the global exchange inventory build on a year-to-date basis, the report said. This should take the net balance to 35.8 million ounces, according to data compiled by GFMS.
By Allen Sykora
For Kitco News
Bang goes another bs tactic of talking about the massive supply deficit then.
Massive decline in silver as an investment, massive capital flows into cryptos and even people now openly stating sell your silver buy crypto.
This portends to either a new bull run or much more likely a steady continuing decline in price.
The lowest Silver Eagle premiums in many years... So where's the Doc getting them from? Andy Hoffman and crew?... lol!
Mr Andy buy silver but now f that get crypto you mean?
I know what is happening alllllll of the retailers are getting subsidised to sell silver at low premiums to create the illusion that supply isn't super tight when really demand is INCREDIBLE, that must be it!
Silver is heading to $100 next month I tell ya buy all you can while you still can Harvey Organ would agree unless he has dumped his pumping now too
Oh come on daveyboy, with all those manipulative speculators moving out of silver and in to cryptos the True Price Of Silver can be discovered. Just what we’ve all been waiting for, right?
Harveeeeey come back.......
If all else fails double down on meaningless emotive descriptions like "tremendous demand" keep them hanging "impending" tap into people's spirit so a 20 cent is labeled a "fight back", a day or 2 or where prices rise before is a "tremendous surge" and when price withers, stagnates, slides "price means nothing" "you have lost nothing" you are the victor here and right you can buy more silver at spot price....why at spot price? you don't need to be worrying about that sir/mam