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Isaiah 33

14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;

16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.

17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off.

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Entering into the Kingdom of God: Peter Whyte

Jesus told Nicodemus that unless a man is born again of water and the Spirit he cannot SEE or ENTER INTO the Kingdom of God. The Scriptures declare that as many as receive Jesus as King are given the right to become the sons of God, and that they are born of the will of God (see John 1:12,13). And again, Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God; and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him (1 John 5:1). Millions of people are born of the will of God and have the right to BECOME sons, but many remain infants during their stay upon the earth. They all have the right to grow up into mature sons and become overcomer’s, but few do so. In the same way, all of God’s children have the right to See and ENTER INTO the Kingdom of God, but few do so. They do not SEE it because they have been taught “Churchianity” and a Christian religion by others who likewise have not seen it. They fail to ENTER INTO it because they generally believe the Kingdom to be only in Heaven or upon the earth in a future millennium. It is true that there is a glorious future for us in our spiritual bodies in the Heavens. It is also true that there is an inheritance which God will bestow on us when Christ returns physically to the earth. Nevertheless it is the present spiritual reality of the Kingdom with which we are to be concerned. Jesus did not spend His time teaching about the Millennium or about life in the Heavens after death. He was preoccupied with proclaiming the WAY, TRUTH, and LIFE for the NOW. His apostles had the same mission, and so should we. Jesus, when asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God would come, replied: The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘there it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst [among or within you] (Luke 17:20-21). The King’s rule (the Kingdom) is within us. His sovereignty is exercised from our inward parts; from our heart, or more accurately, our spirit. Entering INTO His rule is therefore an ongoing process, and NOT ONLY THE MOMENT OF BEING BORN AGAIN. Jesus made a qualification for those who desire to enter into His rule: we must be born from above FIRST. Then the process of learning submission to the King begins. In the parable of “The Sower and the Seed” Jesus explained that there were four categories of people who hear the Word of the Kingdom: Those who do not understand it because the evil one snatches away the Word that has been sown in their heart (spirit). Those who receive it with joy and then fall away when affliction and persecution arise because of the Word of the Kingdom. Those who allow the worries of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth to choke the growth of the Word of the Kingdom so that it becomes unfruitful. Those who understand the Word of the Kingdom and bring forth fruit in varying quantities. Since the rule of God is WITHIN US, everybody has equal opportunity after HEARING the Word of the Kingdom to OBEY or DISOBEY, to enter His reign nor not. Those who are MOST OBEDIENT to the teaching of Christ are those who produce much fruit. The King reigns within, but only to the extent He is permitted. His Kingdom is the Spirit of God in our heart (spirit), but HE WILL NOT IMPOSE HIS WILL UPON US. Always we remain free to choose our own way or His way. The Holy Spirit never takes away our wills. God made us in His own image, and in that sense we are gods - always with the God-like ability to choose. Jesus said: If any man is WILLING TO DO His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God, or whether I speak from Myself (John 7:17). The Bible teaches us that we have already been delivered from the domain of darkness and transferred into the Kingdom of God’s beloved Son (Col. 1:13). We are therefore all IN the Kingdom of God, but we must SEE it and ENTER INTO it. We may compare this to entering the lobby of a vast building with thousands of rooms. We can stay there and be IN the building, but fail to go further INTO every part of it. There is something we must DO -- something we must be willing to SUPPLY. We must respond to the work of the Holy Spirit within us by laying down all our own viewpoints and arguments with God, and submitting to His reign inside us. There is no entrance into His Kingdom without SUBMISSION to Him. The apostle Peter explains this to us perfectly: Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, in order that by them you might become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge; and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness; and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you (2 Pet. 1:1-11). God has grant us everything pertaining to life and godliness through the true knowledge of Christ. He has given us precious and magnificent promises in order that we can share in God’s divine nature. We are FORGIVEN, ENLIGHTENED AND EMPOWERED by the Gospel of GRACE. Because of this, we are to SUPPLY moral excellence, knowledge of Christ, self-control, perseverance, godliness, brotherly kindness and love. IF these qualities are ours and steadily increasing, we are fruitful. IF we practice these things we will never stumble, and IN THIS WAY WE HAVE AN ABUNDANT ENTRANCE INTO THE KINGDOM.
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The preaching of the Cross!

1 Corinthians 1:18-31 King James Version (KJV)

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord

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Yes the "preaching of the Cross" is foolishness to those who are perishing. However, the day will come when they would give all, to have listened to , and receive Christ within. They have passed by those who preached the Cross and Christ's finished Work upon it. Jim

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Prepper Lessons from Noah’s Ark

Prepper Lessons from Noah’s Ark, by C.H.

SurvivalBlog Contributor November 24, 2019

Before I begin this article, I should clarify that I believe that Noah’s flood is a historical fact, not an allegorical myth. It actually happened; a flood that covered the whole earth and destroyed all humanity and all animals on the earth, with the exception of one man, his family, and those animals with him. As I see it, if one can’t believe the Bible about the flood, one can’t believe it about the resurrection either. Noah is included in the ‘cloud of witnesses’ in Hebrews 11:7. These witnesses are to encourage us to ‘lay aside every encumberance and the sin which so easily entangles us, etc.’ (Hebrews 12:1). Hardly the place for a fictional character and story. And I also note that Christ Himself spoke of the flood as an actual historical event (Matthew 24:38-39). So if you share with me the belief that flood did indeed happen, then please read on.

I must also note that much of what we ‘know’ as a culture about Noah’s ark comes from children’s books and songs (“The Loooord, told Noah, to build him an arky-arky”). Noah is usually portrayed as an elderly man with white hair and beard (rather chubby) in a bathrobe, happily enjoying a sail with a bunch of happy animals on deck. The story of Noah always seems to find it’s way into children’s Bible books, while stories about Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19) or the Levite’s concubine (Judges 19) are avoided for being too ‘dark’ for a children’s book. This puzzles me. Apart from the fall and the crucifixion, there has not been a darker day in human history than the day the flood began.

This was not a rainstorm, or even a hurricane. The ‘fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened’ (Genesis 7:11). Enough water was released to cover the tallest mountains on earth. Cataclysm. All of humanity was destroyed. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that just a few people were lost because the earth was so young and people hadn’t multiplied. There were nine generations between Adam and Noah. And if a typical married woman today, living say 75 years, would be pregnant 10-20 times (without birth control), how many children could a woman living 900 years bear? By my reckoning, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of lives were lost. And Noah did NOT resemble a chubby Santa Claus. Given that he lived 900 years and was 600 years old when the flood came (we don’t what age he began building the ark), in appearance he would resemble a modern day 50 year old the day he entered the ark. And if he built, by hand, a ship the size of the ark, Noah was NOT chubby. Think: chiseled, scarred, and hard as nails.

As It Was in the Days of Noah

But why write an article about Noah’s flood? First, because Noah’s time is so like our own. Noah’s story really begins in Genesis 6:1 (though most sermons skip to verse 5): “Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose . . . the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them.” Demons having children with women. The presence of the demonic was visible on the earth. How does this relate to our day? Have you not wondered why there are so many mass murders lately, perpetrated by men with no real explicable motive? Demonic. Why the increasing pressure and influence of drug cartels no longer motivated solely by profit but by a desire for rape, murder, and enslavement? Demonic. Still not convinced? According to the CDC, more than 45,000,000 babies have been murdered in their own mother’s wombs from 1970-2015 in the USA alone. Demonic.

Note also Genesis 6:5: “then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Watch the first episode of the Game of Thrones and imagine playing this show for a theater audience in, say, the 1930s. Imagine the audience’s response. Hysterical screaming, vomiting, and a rush from the theater (followed, no doubt, by a torch-bearing march on the studio). And yet the average American watches five hours of shows like these a day.

And then there is the epidemic of pornography. There is an article in Forbes titled ‘Pornhub 2017 Year in Review Insights Report Reveals Statistical Proof We Love Porn’ that you can Google if you want some insight into American’s use of porn. Fair warning: I couldn’t make it halfway through the article. Just take my word for it: it’s bad, and it’s everywhere. Surely, the thoughts of our hearts are increasingly only evil continually (Genesis 6:5) as they were in Noah’s time.

Finally, though ‘the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence’ (Genesis 6:11), Jesus notes that ‘in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away’ (Matthew 24: 38-39). The culture around Noah saw neither the corruption, nor the impending judgment. Neither does ours.

Noah: The Ultimate Prepper

Second, Noah was the ultimate prepper. Want to save your family from TEOTWAWKI? Noah saved his family from TEOTW (forget the AWKI). Want to provide for your people in tough times? Noah provided for his family and for all land animals on earth for over a year! Want to partner in rebuilding society when the storm passes? Noah did that too.

Let’s take a closer look at lessons from Noah’s story.

  1. Noah received direction from God. It wasn’t his plan, it was His plan. This lesson can’t be overstated. Take Jim’s advice and pray before you prepare. And don’t think that God’s message to Noah was a ‘bolt from the blue.’ It flowed from his intimacy with God: ‘Noah walked with God’ (Genesis 6:9). Dear reader, I implore you to walk with God and receive His plan for you.
  2. Noah lived a holy life. ‘Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time’ (Genesis 6:9). Let us follow his example and ‘lay aside every encumberance and the sin which so easily entangles us’ (Hebrews 12:1). Search for sin in your life for sin and ask the Lord to set you free from it. Or, better yet, ask the Lord to ‘search [you] … and see if there be any hurtful way in [you]’ (Psalm 139: 23-24).
  3. Noah did what he was told. From his introduction in the text to the point where God’s rainbow appears in the sky, Noah doesn’t say a thing. But ‘thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.’ Obedience is what God rewards.
  4. Noah had a heart of worship. What is the first thing he does once he gets out of the ark? He builds an altar before the Lord (Genesis 8:20). In response, the Lord promises to never again destroy the earth with a flood. He also promised to preserve ‘seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night.’ All that, in response to one man’s worship. I believe that worship is overlooked in our lives and that it brings peace, joy, thankfulness, alignment with God, and a powerful response from the Lord.
  5. Noah gave up all his earthly existence to follow God. I’m sure that Noah took tools (as many as he could afford!), tents, extra clothes, etc. with him. I’m also sure that his godly life and long hours building the ark left him few (if any) friends. But he lost his farm, his extended family, his neighbors and community (including all the skills they had and he didn’t). Think on this for a moment. Imagine that tomorrow you wake up and all the world has been washed away. All of it. No house, no cars, no buildings, no power, no grocery store, no pharmacy, no hospital, no doctors, no dentists, no Costco, no Walmart, no restaurants, no hardware store, no Starbucks (!), no internet, no phone, no computers, no tablets. Gone. Far worse than an EMP. Just you, your family, and whatever you have in your suitcases. Noah lost his whole existence, with the exception of his nuclear family and his God. But he preserved his life and the lives of his family through a time of God’s judgment. Let me repeat that: all that Noah got was his life, his family’s lives, and the chance to start over. And believe me, God’s judgment is coming again. Do you hope to preserve your family? Then remember the words of Christ: “He who wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake, he is the one who will keep it’ (Luke 9:24). Do not cling to anything that God calls you to give up. Or it may cost you your life, and the lives of those you love. When He says ‘let go,’ let go.

Noah’s Accomplishments

What did Noah accomplish with this foundation? “Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did” (Genesis 6:22). What, exactly, did Noah do? First, he had to design the ark. My best guess, based on Genesis 9:20, is that Noah was a farmer by profession, not a ship builder. He certainly had no experience building a ship of this size. And while the Lord gives Noah the basic dimensions, the number of decks required, the number of doors and windows, and the types of building materials to use, the rest of the design appears to have been up to Noah. He would have had to determine the latitudinal and longitudinal curvature of the ship and the exact curvature of each board in the hull. Each board would have to be carefully catalogued based on its exact position in the ship.

He had to pick (and procure?) a build site close enough to the forest of trees needed for the raw materials. Some system would have had to be designed to move the heavier materials. Can you imagine the size of the beams needed for the girders of a ship this big? Tools would need to be procured en masse. How many pens (and of what type) would be needed to hold every type of animal on earth (mammals, lizards, birds)? For that matter, how many types are there? How much food would be needed for humans and animals? And of what type? And the Lord didn’t tell him how long he would be in the ark. What should he take with him to restart society with only the skills he and his immediate family had? What would you take? What skills would Noah and his family have been scrambling to learn so that those skills would not be lost? Think on this for a moment.

Then it was time to gather raw materials. According to Genesis 6:15, the ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. Estimating a cubit at 18” (roughly the length of a man’s forearm and fist), that’s 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high. I realize that the ark was probably not rectangular in shape, but for easy figures, that’s a surface area of 114,750 square feet. Adding in the first, second, and third decks (Genesis 6:16), that’s 216,000 square feet. That’s about 81,000 2x4s. With, at best, bronze really era hand tools, Noah had to cut down and mill 81,000 2x4s. Just for fun, try cutting down one tree and producing 1 good 2×4 using only an axe and a hand plane. Noah then had to manufacture or procure enough fasteners for those 81,000 2x4s. He also had to produce enough pitch to cover the surface of the hull (114,750 square feet) inside and out. How many buckets of roofing tar would it take to cover 2×114,750 = 229,500 square feet?

And then the work really began. Noah built the ark. We don’t know what sort of divine assistance Noah received, or how long the construction took, but the Lord did not build the ark for him. Noah did according all that the Lord had commanded him. Beasts of burden might have been used to move the bulk materials or to lower especially heavy materials into position, but for the most part, the ark was built by hand. 81,000 2x4s people. Fastened together. By hand. Followed by covering the surface with nasty, foul smelling, and very dangerous pitch.

How long did this take? And let’s not forget that Noah still needed to provide for the daily needs of his family during construction. And in a world filled with violence (Genesis 6:11), security would have been a constant concern. Imagine the physical and emotional exhaustion. Imagine the constant fight against discouragement and despair. Will this thing ever get built? Is there really a flood coming? “Doesn’t look like rain to me.” Why are we doing this Dad/Honey? And then there was the spiritual struggle. Do you think Satan wanted that ark built?

Does all of this seem exhausting? It was. But let us take heart. What the Lord calls for, He provides for. Noah did it. And we can do what He asks too.

I stated previously that the Lord’s judgment is coming. Why do I believe this? Because the Lord said so: “the Lord preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy.” (Psalm 145:20). The Lord gave the founders of our nation the knowledge of His Son when much of the world was still in darkness. He gave them a virgin country with vast resources and endless opportunity. He gave us a democratically-elected republican form of government and a new birth of freedom and success over our enemies. And what did we do with it? We greedily devoured the resources, took the credit for our success and our victories, turned our back on God, and now seek hastily after every form of wickedness. President Obama was right: we are no longer a Christian nation. Tell me: what nation in the history of humanity has been so blessed, has been so presumptuous, and has so provoked God to wrath?

A new storm is coming, my brothers and sisters. Build quickly.

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Awesome post about Noah! We are definitely living in the days of Noah and not one has a clue to the impending future that is ahead of us. Most believers still think they are going to disappear before anything happens to them in avoidance of the carnage. I always thought is was weird how pastors always seem to avoid the chapter in Genesis about the demons having children with the women on earth. When I would talk about it with fellow believers it's as if they are in denial about it and can't seem to wrap their head around the possibility of it actually taking place. I believe it is taking place again, now, in our times. If Jesus was constantly talking about this world being a super natural daily fight I find it hard to believe that anyone that would call themselves a believer would deny the facts of what is taking place on the earth at this very moment. Thank you again for sharing that information it's a great reminder of the world we are currently living in.

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Baptism

Where does it fit in and what is it's purpose in our times now? Is it still necessary? Is it a still a declaration of one's belief and following of Jesus? It was taking place before Jesus starting his journey on this earth via John but what does it mean now when someone is baptized. I was baptized when I was 11 years old but I thought it was just a sealing of my belief and salvation of Jesus. Way to young for one to really understand the true purpose.

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A woe to consider for all!

Matthew 18 King James Version (KJV)

18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

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Offences and stumbling blocks? Think about the adults, within and without the steeple houses. Dressing up their children in costumes of witchcraft, passing out Easter eggs and preparing them for the study of Harry Potter and yoga classes in the steeple house gym. Yes, these are just part of what blinded believers will need to give an account in that day. jmo Jim (woe unto them as Jesus has warned)

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T. Trekker and Baptism: Part 1

This will take a bit of time to cover.

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Matthew 21:25-27 King James Version (KJV)

25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?

26 But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet.

27 And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

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Acts 19:1-6 King James Version (KJV)

19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

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Those baptized by John, still before the Cross and the Church age, did not even know about the Holy Ghost. Paul, baptized them in water in the Name of the Lord Jesus. He then laid his hands upon them and the Holy Spirit came on them and they spake with tongues and prophesied. As you already know T. Trekker, the majority of steeple houses think that was only for the apostles and some think it was over when the apostles passed onward. Not true! They need to read the Book af Acts and all the letters. They will see that the Holy Spirit, His Gifts to the Church, are from Pentecost until the end.

Most have been sprinkled, some dunked and many think that is how they join their divided denomination. You know: "I was baptized RCC, or Baptist, or Lutheran", or one of the thousands of divisions.

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Part 2

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen. Mark 16 kjv <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Most of the systems discount this part of scriptures. Some say it was not in the original text. They want to justify their positions to their folly.

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For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Galatians 3:26-27 | KJV | faith children clothing

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Matthew 28:19-20 | KJV | evangelism learning Holy Spirit

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 3:21 | KJV | salvation purification resurrection

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38 | KJV | forgiveness Spirit conversion

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Mark 16:16 | KJV | faith salvation judgement

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:5 | KJV | rebirth kingdom Spirit

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 22:16 | KJV | sin purification

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Romans 6:3 | KJV | Jesus

Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Luke 3:21-22 | KJV | prayer Spirit Jesus

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:13 | KJV | Spirit community slavery

And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

John 1:33 | KJV | Jesus Spirit Holy Spirit

Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Acts 19:4 | KJV | conversion faith Jesus

When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Acts 19:5-6 | KJV | Holy Spirit prophecy

Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 10:47 | KJV | Holy Spirit

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 2:41 | KJV | faith Word of God

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.

Titus 3:5 | KJV | salvation Holy Spirit rebirth

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Part 3

The blinded clergy of today, think that they are the only ones to baptize anyone and into their system. We often head out for the creeks, rivers, swimming pools, lakes and even the ocean, to baptize new converts to Christ. Oh the powerful stories we could tell. The clergy become angry if we did not have them do the baptism, wanting to "place the new converts under their covering (demonic) and teaching and controls. You know, steeple house growth and tithes!
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Re-baptized, the Anabaptist, (study Church History)

https://themennonite.org/feature/the-birth-of-anabaptism/

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Many of us, even those who read upon this forum, were baptized as infants, me too. I was not really there and that baptism did not do anything but get me wet. When I was finally saved, hands laid upon me, receiving Christ and the Holy Ghost within, I finally knew I needed to be baptized. The home Church, which we have been in for decades, has re-baptized many, however, never an infant. Jim

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Thanks TT

When reading that this morning I felt it spoke very parallel to the topic we have been on here and put it up. Quite ironically I just caught a link to a 'prepper survival ark' built in Canada by a guy who buried 42 school busses and linked them together for a nuclear event.

I am consistently amazed how things seem to occur in multiples.

NW, great series of explanations on Baptism to answer TTs question.

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Methods???

Many believers wonder what they must do to see others saved. Should we get involved in a system/ Should we set up a tent? Should we write articles? Should we tackle the unsaved and force them to repent and be baptized? Will our music ministry draw people to Christ and salvation? There are scriptural answers, for Jesus is the Way: <<<<<<<<<<<<< John 6:44-48 King James Version (KJV) 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48 I am that bread of life. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I have witnessed, many many times, that it is the Spirit of God that draws mankind and they are ready for an encounter with a Living Christ. Oh happy day. Then we, who are all clergy, need to help aim them upon the Roadway of Life, heading to the Kingdom and lots of fellowship. Yes, we need to make baptism available and quickly. Grabbing a couple of elders in the faith and head for the waters. Jim (I have seen the effects, many times, of people drawn by the Spirit, running to the front of meetings and confessing their many tears, before the assembly, eyes filled with tears. )
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The Power within being thankful!

Romans 1:21

“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

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A hat to wear, to steeple house on Sunday:

"HELLFIRE and BRIMSTONE" Preachers?

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Yes, the 99% have departed from the Word, forgetting the warnings of the Lord, given in both covenants. "If" the true elders would rise up, confront the false blinded preachers, and remind the assemblies of the basics of following the Way of Life, the systems would be destroyed in the time that their S.H. checking/savings account reached zero. Pervert Right, Right Rev. Mary Jane would either repent or continue her sliding into the pit and take a multitude with her. Jim

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Leonard Ravenhill, we need many!

(Sermon Clip) We Need Hell-Fire Preaching on Repentance by Leonard Ravenhill
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Pre-tribbers and their folly, long article:

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Easy to discern the S.S.!

7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Rev. 3 kjv

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Yes, the S.S. above is the "synagogue of Satan", the warning given by the Lord, to the Church that He loves, being Philadelphia. Yet, here we are today, being invaded by the "Jewish roots" of the old blinded covenant. These peddlers of law and bondage, are welcomed into the assemblies everywhere and the so-called Christian book stores peddle their poison. All divisions of believers have been invaded by the synagogue, for there is "only" one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and only one Church, the Church of the Kingdom. Jim

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@NW View......Methods

When I was growing up my mother said it was my duty to preach the gospel to all my friends thus carry the Bible and a big stick. Never once did I feel comfortable with this theory. I was about 12 years old when I had a friend that was a mormon and we came home from school one day and my mother did not know she was in my bedroom and my mother felt the need at that very moment to reiterate to me that I needed to preach and beat into all my friends that their religion was on the wrong track, demonic, and headed for hell. She was talking at the height of one's voice could go about damnation before I could tell her that my friend was in the other room hearing ALL of what she was saying. That friend left in tears and never returned. I never felt that it was my duty to try to convince others that my path was the right one even if I knew it was. When others see the light of Jesus in you that is a witness without having to swing a Bible around which I believe only makes someone more adverse to it. I believe that being the salt is all you have to do in this life. It says in the Word that everyone on this earth will have the opportunity to know and learn who Jesus is and it will be their choice to decide what to do with that information. If someone asks me a question I will be right there with an answer but I won't shove Jesus down anyone's throat as it is exhausting. As NW View wrote above it is in a person's time that the encounter with Jesus will come and I fully agree with that. I share what I know when the opportunity presents itself but it is only the holy spirit that leads me into those moments and not my own accord. If only that could have been realized by my mother long ago that forcing isn't the way to share the good news about Jesus.

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When we become workers of methods, we will fall into pits. One way may work here and another way work there. However, we are told to "Go into all the world and to preach the gospel to all creation"! That is really difficult for most, not ever knowing what the "gospel" even contains.

This I do know: If one has Christ within, the Light of Life, being led by the Holy Ghost, they will attract others to that Light within. "If" we do not have that Inner Light, but only religion, we will not attract anything but angers and confusions.

This does remind me again, of an old true story that happened abut 30+ years ago: There were two local home builders and one named B. was always talking to unsaved L.. L. just kept on his pathway of sinning. Finally, L. actually became born again and his life was changed forever. L. led many to Christ.

B. came to L. and said: "L., I witnessed to you for several years and you never responded, not once and I want to know why." L. said: "Well, B., I never ever saw anything in your life that I wanted"! Knowing is not having. Do we really have the Inner Goods or is it just what we picked up at the steeple house on Sunday mornings? Jim

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