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Great example Mr. Fix

This is the problem. Famous people, lacking any Light or understanding.  Void of what is "really happening", trying to understand history without any tools.  It was not the "essence of Christianity" in view, but a presentation of Life or death. Which will each person choose? Everyone still, even today, has a choice.  If was not about speaking out or being quiet but by believing what they had been told and making a "free will" choice.     Remember, Jesus did not come to start a religion called Christianity.  He came to give every person the choice to pick the Tree of Life in Him or death.  Our parents, A & E chose the wrong tree but the Lord had a remedy for their failure, being Himself.  (Any more and we will need to go to TOF)   Jim

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Jim and GL,

I've already answered the garden of Eden scenario on multiple occasions, if you disregard the biblical narrative as a piece of propaganda, designed to get people to embrace evil, complete ignorance, and condemn knowledge,  then you have something fairly similar to today, whereby people with knowledge are ostracized,

As they're quite capable of making those mind numbed morons feel quite uncomfortable.

This sums it up fairly well: Image result for Frank Zappa Memes

I think the Moses narrative is totally screwed up, Moses was raised as an Egyptian,  the biblical narrative is specifically designed to make you think that "God's chosen ones" are the good guys, while they fight wars of aggression to conquer, and eradicate the inhabitants of their "promised lands". This is clearly turning morality upside down, and I suspect that the narrative itself is just an excuse to explain some exceptionally aberrant and immoral behavior.

I seriously doubt the Israelites were slaves, there's no record of the Egyptians going forth and conquering them, and from my perspective, they left of their own free will. If they were slaves, this would not have been allowed.

As for a free society,

The most notable appears to be the early ancient Egyptians, who did not engage in  wars of conquest, make blood sacrifices to some imaginary sky daddy, and sought knowledge, and shared it freely. The library  at Alexandria was meant to be an accumulation of all knowledge on planet Earth, which was freely shared to anyone who was interested.

I am betting that there were  more than a few contradictions to histories  official narrative there, before the Vatican torched it.

"He who governs least, governs best", is such a truism,  if you simply take it to its ultimate extreme,

What you're left with, is highly preferable to what we have now.

As soon as you create an authority figure, it becomes a cancerous tumor on the society that it governs, eventually destroying it.

Obviously, this was not how things were originally designed to work.

I will grant you that there are few official narratives concerning free societies, and even early American history is being rewritten as we sit back and watch. Those who write the history books do not look kindly upon free societies.

The establishment have a vested interest in making sure that no such narratives exist. I would say they have gone to great lengths to eradicate any evidence of such a society. They're in the process of doing that to this one.

A free society wouldn't be doable unless natural law was mainstreamed as a philosophical template, and that can't be documented as ever happening since the great flood, although such a philosophy was clearly well known in ancient Egypt. 

Going back further than that, would only be speculative,  but that doesn't change my basic premise that is giving human beings power and authority over other human beings, is nothing short of a recipe for disaster.

Narratives differ fairly widely on the Atlantean culture, which probably started out as free, until it was later subverted.

The Emerald tablets of Thoth describe his 36,000 year reign over Atlantis, as well as its downfall.

Whatever got introduced into humanity to completely fuck it up, happened there. 

There is plenty of evidence that will prove that humanity has achieved an extremely high order of Technology millions of years in our past, and it sure as hell didn't happen with the current crop of parasites in charge of it.

There is no innovation without the freedom to achieve it.

But I do speculate that it has been done, but all we hear about are the genocidal results, and the victories of those who vanquished the "Heathens" from the face of the planet. 

I've read multiple articles on free societies that did exist in the last couple of hundred years. One of them was in Hong Kong, my wife sent me an article on it, and I probably should have saved it. Eventually, governments eradicated that one also.

If I find it, or something similar in the future, I will be sure to post it.

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I forgot!

Some have forgotten that the Tree of Life is also in the end, being seen in the Book of Revelations:

The River and the Tree of Life

22 Then he showed me a river of the water of life, [a]clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of [b]the Lamb, 2 in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [c]kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Now isn't that wonderful.  Where is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?  Yep, I know.    Jim

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Good evening Jim,

I think our private discussions are quite adequate concerning the beliefs that underpin christianity, and my posts here on this forum are primarily concerned with liberating a mindset that is stuck on stupid, and permanently enslaved.

It's more philosophical then it is theological.

Sure, I could throw bombs at the other members of the "thread of faith", but it's already been made clear to me that's my point of view shared there, is like kicking a hornets nest, and their anger at me usually disqualifies anything that I have to say.

Besides,

I assume that you are already kicking the shit out of them.

You ask a valid question before pertaining to "how I'm I going to fix all of that?" In my own life, I already have.

What other people choose to do with the information they come across, is up to them.

Obviously, a true Christian will never agree with Frank Zappa's assertions, as they have ready-made explanations to explain their dogmatically institutionalized insanity. 

But from my perspective, he was just speaking the truth.

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There are miracles that happen, even on the TOF forum.   If you check, abguy4 receives more hat tips than myself, on that forum.  Think about that!

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Yeah, I must be missing out on all the fun over there.

Seriously, with the obvious exception of today, I really am trying to spend more time on other projects.

By the way, you specifically asked me about Africa last week, Watch this,

It's been going on pretty much forever...

Your tax dollars are hard at work creating slaves in Africa right now.

This video gives a fairly thorough explanation as to exactly how we do it.

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That's an amazing video

That's an amazing video

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Mr. Fix, that video is serious stuff.

I think that you and Jer. Jr. are moving closer together.  He sees the USA as Mystery Babylon:

Revelation 17King James Version (KJV)

17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We are in deep trouble.  Most upon this thread have not been to Africa.  I have been there many times.  The tape exposed the rape of nations in many ways and I watched the detours, exported from America and Europe, to control and alter the message given to the True Church.  I am at a loss for words, to describe my weeping spirit within, over the exporting of Babylon to the nations.    Jim

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Mr. Fix wrote:

Mr. Fix wrote:

Jim, You have a parable for this one? 

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I do believe the swamp is expanding. 

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Fix's video is why encourage people to read great authors more and vote less. 

“It is truly enough said that a corporation has no conscience; but a corporation of conscientious men is a corporation with a conscience. Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even well disposed are daily made the agents of injustice. A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that you see a file of soldiers… marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences…”

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I never got into Frank

I never got into Frank Zappa's music but an interesting guy.  

Apparantly, John Lennon and Yoko ONo violated natural law and screwed Zappa. 

Here's video of the live performance with Lennon, Ono and Zappa.   Yoko Ono had a voice that only God could love.  I don't endorse the calls to violence against her but it made me want to stab myself in the ears.  

This is a historic recording sort of like listening to JFK farting in the White House lavatory. 

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OH for fucks sake.

trump screws up enough without having to pin crap on him he has no control over. 

Somalia has been a mess as is all of sub Saharan Africa since forever. Anyone remember black hawk down? It's polluted with warlords that chew that qat they enable them to stay awake for days . That's why our guys got annilated there. 

The least of Somalians problems are deep sea trawlers. Overfishing is a global problem. Tons of aid has been sent there only to be confiscated by warring guerillas and sold on the black market. 

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Yes G.L., I have a parable!

Mr. Fix's video about Africa reminds me of 2Sam. 11.

David had the power, the position and could do anything he wanted.  He saw Bathsheba, a babe, and committed adultery with her, a married woman and now pregnant.  Oh what could he do?  Yes, send her husband into battle, making sure that he would be killed and David would be free. However, the prophet of God did come along and finally expose the sin.

America has had the power, the position and could do anything they want,  with natives who live in huts.  We saw gold and silver, diamonds upon the ground, lands to conquer and occupy, while looking like a knight in shiny armor, being a force to bring even more slavery.  Even the true prophets who have been sent have been outcasts from governments and man made systems. 

The whole blinded world, has made mankind into ones like Uriah the Hittite!    

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i spent too many years on the

i spent too many years on the road. I hate traveling now. It's the getting there that bothers me. Plus in biz mode I have to behave. 

I think Lindsey should have retired about that horrible crash she had at the end of that perfect year she had but choked in the olympics. Think it was obvious that injury was too much to come back on. I can't even imagine the concussive pressure she must have to put on it. It will catch up soon. She was already the champ. Nothing to prove . 

This is a massive amount of work I've committed to. Plus I'm up against some sharks and I don't mean the ones in the water. Fortunately, I've managed to keep it secret what I'm chasing and why. 

Im just nervous about converting times to meters. Not to mention their courses are completely different than the ones here. Also I'm worried their expectations on what I can do are too high. I can't hit a home run every time. Nature doesn't work like that... Besides scat daddy is dead. But I've got two others in mind. Reasonable fees compared to the USA or IRE. 

Im a bit nervous but I'll be fine when in my element. Clock is ticking 

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his rock stuff is fun. 

But his last classical compositions are really quite good if you can find them. He paid for them himself and only a few thousand were pressed. Also he was known to have regretted lacking funds to practice with an entire orchestra before recording. Not sure but I think he was pretty sick by then. 

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Green Lantern wrote:

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Fix's video is why encourage people to read great authors more and vote less. 

Apparently,

forming a coherent sentence

is above some individuals' pay grade.

Thus same will propagate the self defeating exercise whereby to 

"vote less"

thereby ensuring that ignoramuses and  the bribed will continue to make their lives even more miserable.

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Yes, it's delightful

seeing numerous videos posted by folks on the payroll of those funding the overthrow of this nation and western civilization. They bait and hook you with statements you agree with then lead you to the path of self destruction. Don't vote, you can't stop us. Just bend ova and take it like the good boys you are. Not only are you gonna take it; your gonna like it. 

We are Europe ten years ago where what I coined cappacinno commies sat in trendy outdoor cafes discussing American hatred and the benefits of multiculturalism. Never thought it would happen here but it has. 

Pnow MI5 has had to issue an alert on how dangerous London is. Well done Britian. You would have been much safer if hitler had won. Cuz now your daughter can't walk the street without a 50 % chance of being gang raped ever time she goes out. 

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Yes, it's delightful

seeing numerous videos posted by folks on the payroll of those funding the overthrow of this nation and western civilization. They bait and hook you with statements you agree with then lead you to the path of self destruction. Don't vote, you can't stop us. Just bend ova and take it like the good boys you are. Not only are you gonna take it; your gonna like it. 

We are Europe ten years ago where what I coined cappacinno commies sat in trendy outdoor cafes discussing American hatred and the benefits of multiculturalism. Never thought it would happen here but it has. 

Pnow MI5 has had to issue an alert on how dangerous London is. Well done Britian. You would have been much safer if hitler had won. Cuz now your daughter can't walk the street without a 50 % chance of being gang raped ever time she goes out. 

By all means continue the discussion and ignore the reality of right now. 

Continue bitching about trump - had he not tore up TPP it would be over already. 

Cracks me up the people surprised we have troops in Africa ... We have for decades under different names. They watched sabra and shatilla with Fatouma ( areial Sharon). 

I might be autistic but I'm not a fool. Keep reading so you know the history of your new masters. 

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A few of the men

Who really built this country 

<<--------- RIP Ricky O ..., you crazy sob! #ironmonkeys

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Ruffian wrote:seeing

Ruffian wrote:

seeing numerous videos posted by folks on the payroll of those funding the overthrow of this nation and western civilization. They bait and hook you with statements you agree with then lead you to the path of self destruction. Don't vote, you can't stop us. Just bend ova and take it like the good boys you are. Not only are you gonna take it; your gonna like it. 

We are Europe ten years ago where what I coined cappacinno commies sat in trendy outdoor cafes discussing American hatred and the benefits of multiculturalism. Never thought it would happen here but it has. 

Pnow MI5 has had to issue an alert on how dangerous London is. Well done Britian. You would have been much safer if hitler had won. Cuz now your daughter can't walk the street without a 50 % chance of being gang raped ever time she goes out. 

By all means continue the discussion and ignore the reality of right now. 

Continue bitching about trump - had he not tore up TPP it would be over already. 

Cracks me up the people surprised we have troops in Africa ... We have for decades under different names. They watched sabra and shatilla with Fatouma ( areial Sharon). 

I might be autistic but I'm not a fool. Keep reading so you know the history of your new masters. 

That's a horrendous analogy.   

If you're referring to the video,  Fix posted of a man giving a first hand testimony to the continued deception of the military/industrial complex under our current Commander and Chief, than what you just listened to was a true patriot speaking the truth without the pageantry, pomp and circumstance that has all of a sudden become the NEW political correctness under the guise of patriotism.  

Of course, we are not surprised that we have troops in Africa.  We're just pointing out that nothing has changed and that all the dangers you keep alerting us to are a result of our policies.  But you don't think so.  Just some random crazies in the world out to hurt us because they are jealous of our freedoms.   That's McCain's line.  

We have even more deception than we did under Obama.  Obama was easy to read.  His stated policies were overt homages to a great socialist lie.   Most people can't decipher Trump and take him at his words.  It's the guys who were waving their hands and yelling it's a ruse that are the ones taking it up the ass with greater controls, hidden taxes, fake numbers, and news blackouts on the continued invasions of foreign lands under the guise, we're doing it in the best interest of the American people.  

It's totally outlandish, devious government delusions.   We've become so reactive to the stories that the MSM feeds us, we and the alternative media (a good majority) aren't leading the news flow.  We are just reacting to whatever stories come to us.   The argument of who would have made a better President obscures the reality that the Executive office has no semblance to the original constitutional duties.   

I'm in Maybury's camp, let the two gangs destroy each other with lies and let the American public jump on whichever ship that floats their boat.  It's guys like Maybury, Ron Paul that are the ones taking it up the ass when they make great efforts to alert you to the treachery simply because the mass of humanity thinks they know better.  And it was the overwhelming majority that supported Trump.  I do believe.   

While I am not as absolute as Fix, in our current environment, there is very little good to say about government, the process, and the system.   I voted!!! It was a very strong -NO CONFIDENCE!!  

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Now we're getting somewhere

You never know which video is going to spark a conversation.

Ruffian says this has been going on for a long time, and is old news.

I already stated as much in the post with the video, and didn't claim that Trump was any different than any past administration. 

Sometimes it is euphemistically referred to as colonialism, but it is subjugation, and enslavement, plain and simple.

That video is simply highlighting a small microcosm in global crimes against humanity that have been ongoing for eons.

I would just like you to know what you are endorsing when you go to the polls, and select your next tyrannical overlord.

I do not consent to any of this, and abstaining from the polls is not so much a vote of no confidence, but a demonstration of absolute disdain and contempt for those who pretend to have "the consent of the governed".

Power corrupts, it always has, and it always will. Consenting to it isn't just an act of ignorance, it is an affirmation of pure evil.

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