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Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 6:53am (Reply to #16675)
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This instintiveley repels me

No other comment

Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 8:11am
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Continuity of government

Be this guy: 

Governments only cease to function, when nobody gives a shit what they have to say anymore.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 8:36am
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Careful out there. The only opinion that counts around here belongs to GL. You do know that he never posts anything that isn't truthful and factual, don't you? If not just ask him or better yet listen to him rattle on.

Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 9:03am
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have no dog in the fight

They dislike us for more than just our bad movies.

Three years ago, I had the occasion of talking to someone who had just returned from a tour of duty at a M.E. drone base. That person told me that we are drone bombing fourteen countries daily. Maybe thousands of “missions” daily. Most of that bombing is electronic – knocking out communications, computers, power grids, etc. It’s called “softening the target”. Now then, if that treatment bothers you, and you take some pot-shots at the molesting drone which has live cameras, you get labeled on the map as a terrorist location. Then at the next local wedding you get an uninvited guest that eliminates you and the rest of the village. The attached is a map of drone bases – the base this person worked at, is not even listed. I submit this info because it ties into the CoG article, that I posted above. How? Well, the whole intended purpose of the CoG is to ensure that policies of the MIC/shadow Gov continue as planned, regardless of whether the chief puppet calls itself red, blue or purple. The military industrial complex agenda stays true to course, or political careers vaporize – just ask Jimmie C – who dared to screw with both the Oil Co’s and the DoD contractors. At this point I do not surmise that any sitting puppet has ever varied from its handlers strict orders ---- – Oh say since JFK? Using terms like trump or Obo is simply to use place date markers to identify the actions of the CoG during some time frame. I have no data to support this next speculation; there may very well be an escalation of droning in the ME – simply because EVERY US gov terrorist activity – at home(~!) or abroad – is currently being escalated, any argument?. Now some readers are famous for asking why, why, pleeze tell me why. First of all; psychopaths create terror and chaos to entertain themselves -- ALWAYS, chaos is where they thrive, and secondly maybe to take the focus off of the pedo disclosures which of course lead right back to CoG main actors. But this is of course total speculation.

and need it be said-- pleeeze do not interpret my comments as taking any position re; chicago blackie puppet and nyc whitie billionaire

Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 9:59am
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There are times when

we are fishing for truth and found without a hook in the water. When we continue to build upon misunderstood events, we will continue down rabbit holes that are just detours, being blinded to actual former events.

Jesus DID NOT COME TO EARTH TO START A RELIGION OF ANY KIND, DID NOT COME TO START SOMETHING CALLED CHRISTIANITY. SORRY FOR SHOUTING BUT WE NEED TO BAIT OUR HOOKS WITH SOME ACTUAL TRUTH.

Yes, it is written:

 Acts 11:26 

Parallel Verses

King James Version
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Darby Bible Translation
And having found him, he brought him to Antioch. And so it was with them that for a whole year they were gathered together in the assembly and taught a large crowd: and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

World English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the assembly, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

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Yes this is after Acts Chapter 2, after the Work of the Cross, after He walked the earth for 33 years, after the resurrection, after they were meeting in homes at the Church and not a steeple house to be seen. Where did Jesus tell the people that He came to make a religion and they would be called Christians?

The "key" to understanding the problems with religions, is the understanding of Who and What He did come to earth to present, as His Answer, for all mankind. Finding out where we departed from His presentation. I must say that even Mr. Fix sees some of the Truth.

Oh well, I am going to take Linda out for coffee before I jump onto my computer screen. A major rant is brewing. Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 10:38am (Reply to #16699)
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What an incredible post...

argentus maximus,

If I could give you 1000 hat tips for that, I would. Much of the information provided in "Interview with a Christian Nationalist"  I have already researched and corroborated, but as it says in the end, you can't present facts to a true believer.

The problem with going back to the source of many of our current day problems, is that they are ancient, and few people can look past the actors on the stage that are presented to us daily.

Combine this with the fact that most people never question their own beliefs. Some of them have been handed down over multiple millennias. 

Questions concerning the authenticity of scripture, combined with the legitimacy of authority, are inextricably interwoven, to create a cluster fuck of propaganda that is virtually impossible for most people to dissect.

Although the video brought a smile to my face, the underlying reality of just how screwed up humanity has become, and why, isn't funny. For most, it's not even comprehensible.

So history will repeat itself, just like it always does,

Thank you for making me personally aware of the cycles that affect us, it's brought some sanity to an insane world.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 10:46am (Reply to #16705)
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Top of the morning to you Jim,

I'm happy to hear that you have a major rant brewing. I would consider you way overdue.

I'm off to my duties for the day, you know, that fixing shit thing that I do occasionally.

I'll be looking forward to reading what you have to say when I return this evening.

Coffee sounds good, I think I'll get myself a cup also. angel

Have a nice day.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 1:08pm
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Thanks am. That was a great

Thanks am.

That was a great history lesson. 

Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 1:17pm
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NW...yur wurk is dun here

Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 1:21pm
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O.K. Mr. Fix, Part one of my continual Rant!

"If'" I had been born, hundreds of years ago, seeing the folly of the religious controllers of nations, I would have been burned at the stake with John Huss. It still may happen later. It is not a great honor to be rich or poor, but a true blessing to be counted with those who paid the full price and being seen as "outcast" from the blinded systems of men.

My morning daydream: "I young Polish man ran out of the steeple house, on a Sunday morning, right after confession and communion, pondering the Latin Mass. He walked across an open field and fell into a very deep rabbit hole. There was just not any escape, no way up and darkness. Walking through tunnels, finding bunches of old men who had also fallen into the same pit. They said they had the answers and also had been there for a long time. He listened and considered their testimony. However, a faint Light was coming from a narrow passage way and a Voice was saying "Come to the Light, walk this way".

"The old men said to stay with them, they had the numbers and understood the long ago written ways of life. Join them and all will be wonderful, right there within the darkness. However, that Light had a great attraction. He began his walk, and at every mile post, a new view of the Truth. A Great Light will show what has been hidden.

He ran back, right to the old men, sitting in their darkness, told them of the Roadway, the Pathway to real Freedom, a Way out of Darkness, a Lighted Pathway to True Freedom. They did not want to listen for they were cemented into their pews. Oh what a heartache, to weep as he walked onward, heading for the Great Light of Freedom. " 

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 2:01pm
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2 for Fix

"Along the pathway, he found John and finally understood that those who went out from the early Church were not really part of the original message:

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1John 2

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Yes the many have been seduced:

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

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The era of the old testament was over, at the time of the Cross. FINISHED! The abode of the Lord was surely within the third enclosure of the temple in Jerusalem. The people still walked in darkness and the gentile nations were not included in the hopes of life eternal, within the views of the Jews. 

Jesus did have a better Plan. One He wanted from the beginning. Not wanting to live within the Ark of the Covenant but actually entering the real temple, being the person who would invite Him to enter right inside them. Ye are the Temple of the Holy Ghost. Jesus Christ "IN YOU" the Hope of Glory. They being the House of God as it is written ion the New Testament. This is what the first Pentecost was all about, a new era, a forming of the Church, the Temple, the House of God, walking the planet as a witness for all nations, the Light of Life. 

Now Mr. Fix and I have discussed the Life of Jesus and how He presented great Truths and also how mankind and even His so-called followers have ignored His Truths. Mr. Fix has the ability to look at what He actually taught and seeing the great value while most are so blinded that they never explore the Light.

Jesus did not set up a system of thousands of divided steeple houses nor a pastor/layman division for the Church. He did not dress in brightly colored robes, funny hats, turned around collars and did not tell His followers to go to a blinded bible college. He did not set up a communion rail, an offering plate to pay for their building nor a Sunday School system. He was there to present Himself to the world as the Answer, long before there was Muslims, RCCers, J.W.'s and even the Mormons. All of them wanting to rewrite what He said and change history. He did not tell his followers to give a steeple house membership card to those who joined them nor a certificate of their baptism.

He did say, follow Me and I will make you fishers of men. It is time to see the Lighted Way out, grab our poles and reel in some six footers. Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 7:14pm (Reply to #16704)
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abguy4 wrote: They dislike

abguy4 wrote:

They dislike us for more than just our bad movies.

Three years ago, I had the occasion of talking to someone who had just returned from a tour of duty at a M.E. drone base. That person told me that we are drone bombing fourteen countries daily. Maybe thousands of “missions” daily. Most of that bombing is electronic – knocking out communications, computers, power grids, etc. It’s called “softening the target”. Now then, if that treatment bothers you, and you take some pot-shots at the molesting drone which has live cameras, you get labeled on the map as a terrorist location. Then at the next local wedding you get an uninvited guest that eliminates you and the rest of the village. The attached is a map of drone bases – the base this person worked at, is not even listed. I submit this info because it ties into the CoG article, that I posted above. How? Well, the whole intended purpose of the CoG is to ensure that policies of the MIC/shadow Gov continue as planned, regardless of whether the chief puppet calls itself red, blue or purple. The military industrial complex agenda stays true to course, or political careers vaporize – just ask Jimmie C – who dared to screw with both the Oil Co’s and the DoD contractors. At this point I do not surmise that any sitting puppet has ever varied from its handlers strict orders ---- – Oh say since JFK? Using terms like trump or Obo is simply to use place date markers to identify the actions of the CoG during some time frame. I have no data to support this next speculation; there may very well be an escalation of droning in the ME – simply because EVERY US gov terrorist activity – at home(~!) or abroad – is currently being escalated, any argument?. Now some readers are famous for asking why, why, pleeze tell me why. First of all; psychopaths create terror and chaos to entertain themselves -- ALWAYS, chaos is where they thrive, and secondly maybe to take the focus off of the pedo disclosures which of course lead right back to CoG main actors. But this is of course total speculation.

and need it be said-- pleeeze do not interpret my comments as taking any position re; chicago blackie puppet and nyc whitie billionaire

Well that settles it. It's obvious time has sped up. They can now crap up the country much quicker in less earth time.

(Only 1/2 of that is tongue in cheek. The 1/2 about time speeding up. That ain't no joke. And it does account for the quickening we are experiencing)

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Can post video's again.

Can post video's again. Weird.

Couldn't post this a few days ago went it came out.

I think this explanatory. The reporter does a good job explaining it. I'm not responsible for all the conspiracy theories that show up in the video feeds. 

أخبار الإمارات | مرور نيزك في سماء دبي والمناطق الشرقية بالإمارات.
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Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 7:34pm (Reply to #16711)
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1 for Jim...

Nice job Jim!

I love how you can articulate your position, your beliefs, and the teachings you ascribe to, without berating others who think differently,

 Or have found their own spiritual truths from other sources. 

Even the verses that you cited, are ones that we can agree on somewhat, but our interpretations of those verses have some profound differences.

I won't reiterate my spiritual beliefs, they've been sprinkled in my posts for several years now.

Even in our most recent private discussions, we can have completely different interpretations of exactly the same story.

So for once, I'm not going to challenge your scripture, and I will find a another context for our interpretive differences, because they are ongoing, and are even reflected in our differing views of current events.

There are however, a couple of your statements outside of the scriptural text, which I can't possibly agree with, and we might as well start with this doozy:

"The era of the old testament was over, at the time of the Cross. FINISHED!”

Okay, I've got plenty of problems with that line, for starters, it completely denies reality.

I could ask why the Old Testament was included as a document within Christianity, but it's enough to acknowledge that it was included, tying Jesus Christ to a handbook on human enslavement for perpetuity.

How could you possibly consider "The era of the old testament” over, when two of the three Western religions still abide by it? That's billions of people who would disagree with you. At several billion to one, you are outnumbered.

Keep in mind, most people who define themselves as Christian, still adhere to it.

The Jews still believe they are "the chosen ones”, and have deemed the rest of humanity on par with cattle, something to have "dominion over”.

Considering these Zionists sit at every level of our government, calling the shots, like their faith teaches them, running the banking system, which is solely designed to extract as much wealth as possible from the rest of humanity, and since they don't consider goyim to be real people, torturing and killing them really isn't a sin, because god gave them dominion over us.

In that context, how can you possibly argue that the era of the Old Testament is over? It is still being used by those who rule over us as the basic handbook on keeping us enslaved. 

How about the Muslims? Point by point, there's no difference between the Torah and the Koran, only the names have been changed, For example from Yahweh to Allah, to protect the reputation of the criminally insane.

The Jews and the Muslims are still working it from their own perspective, fucking up themselves and humanity in every way possible, while neither of these particular belief systems contribute one goddamn thing to society.

What we've had since the Old Testament, is "the era of parasitical overlords ruling over the productive”, and there's just no freaking way that is finished in any manner whatsoever.

Your next sentence was even more baffling: "The abode of the Lord was surely within the third enclosure of the temple in Jerusalem.”

So the Lord lived in a box? Did have a door? How did they get him in there? Did they use extortion, coercion, or terror like they do for everyone else? Was he allowed to go out for walks? What was the rest of humanity doing without him, while he was stuck in his box? Did they still think he was a sky daddy then? Was he a sky daddy before he lived in the box? Did he escape? Or was he set free?

Curious minds want to know.

Sometimes, I come across a religious belief that begs certain questions, you know full well that I believe that God is everywhere, in everything, and everything is also within God.

God, and an intelligent universe, are synonymous. You can't put it in a box.

Your next sentence:

"The people still walked in darkness and the gentile nations were not included in the hopes of life eternal, within the views of the Jews.”

This kind of reminds me of what every governmental entity on the planet does as a regular course of business. Through the use of force, it deprives you of your basic natural rights, redefines them as privileges, and then sells them back to you if you jump through the right hoops, and pay the parasitical overlords enough money. 

The human spirit is eternal, meaning it always has been, and it always will be. And who the fuck cares what the Jews think anyway? Apparently, everyone who still thinks they are "God's chosen ones”. Fuck them, and fuck their fucking imaginary sky daddy.

At least, you finally move on to "Jesus had a better plan”, and yes, he did. In fact, I am largely in agreement with the new testament, although, they left out Jesus' teachings on reincarnation, and substituted it with "you've only got one life to live”.

This teaches people to fear death, with the typical result of making them docile and servile, unable to take any risks, for when it's over, it's over. Nothing left but judgment. Who wants that? Nobody.

The Universe just keeps giving us the lessons we need to learn, and humanity will be stuck in it's rut for all of eternity until some of these ridiculous notions are abandoned. Maybe more people will start to remember being here before.

Sure, we can all have Christ within, which is just a matter of semantics, because all of humanity are interdimensional entities, with their spirits being very much a part of the Universal consciousness. In a manner of speaking, we are all divine.

So any notion that only one human being in the entire history of our planet was divine, and we must worship him to find our own connection to God, and have everlasting life in some place other than a fiery hellhole, was just made up as a new and improved control trip.

Got to keep the cattle in line, paying tribute to their parasitical overlords at all costs.

Jesus was sentenced to death by the Jews for blasphemy, and heresy. By connecting the Old Testament to the New Testament, and then calling Jesus Christ the son of Yahweh, or, one and the same, stands in stark contradiction to what Jesus actually said, did, and taught.

I will agree with you, that Jesus Christ was here to put an end to the era of the Old Testament, but the evil ones who wrote it, had other ideas. They devilishly incorporated their old book, into the new and improved version.

We could even call it “Human Farming 2.0”

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 7:38pm (Reply to #16714)
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Well Mr. Fix, I could just give you a big hug.

I know many of your views and yes, I have an answer for many of your concerns. I do not think that DOTS would be happy if I spent the time to cover them. We two, still will have our 40% of our graphs, outside of the other persons understandings and beliefs. That is O.K. We two will just need to exchange our understandings of your concerns and I will work on PM ing them as we have time. P.S., I really like some of your out of the box thinking and it puts a smile on this old face. Thanks for your great effort in trying to find the truth. Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 7:42pm
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Contracts and agreements

When I build a house, a custom, just for a special family, just suited for them, I sign an agreement. When the house is finished, I give the owner the keys, shake his hand and say. IT IS FINISHED! Then, I move onward, signing a new contract, a new price, a new location, a new family and build until I have completed the project. I work on the new contract, not returning to the old contract as that project is over.

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 7:55pm
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Also, Mr. Fix

The one I like the best is what you stated above:

How could you possibly consider "The era of the old testament” over, when two of the three Western religions still abide by it? That's billions of people who would disagree with you. At several billion to one, you are outnumbered.

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I think much of the Koran is also based on the old testament. You know, Issac and Ishmael being half brothers. So, in a way, the three major religions are tied to the O.T., making even more on their side, me being in the wilderness, alone. Oh Happy Day!

When one can answer correctly why Judge Moore was incorrect about his wanting the ten commandments left on the court house property, they have began to see the Truth. (Note: It takes the correct answer). Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 8:52pm
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I think of churches, I mean

I think of churches, I mean individual ones, like clubs. People gather together with a common interest, may be members, there's a leader who spends a lot more time on the club's interest, they collect or raise money to spend on the clubhouse and their interest and so on.

The reason I don't go to any one church regularly is that they won't see it as a club. They want to see it as serving the Lord and in a reversal make demands based on an obligation to the Lord rather than obligation or request of the club.

Let me illustrate. I'm walking by the church and someone says 'all you have to do is accept Jesus as your saviour'. "I do" say I and walk in. All is well and fine and if I like the club I stay. Eventually someone asks me if I'd like to do more. Well, I like the club and so sure I understand some volunteering or in place of that, money, makes sense. And as it goes along a little more may be asked, or some suggestion about behaviour comes my way. If I resist then the following sequence takes place...

"Isn't God good to you?"

"Yes" 

"Well then shouldn't you support His work?"

"What do you mean, support His work?

"(some good work is suggested, or change in behaviour)"

"(I make my excuse or give reason)"

Here some pressure is applied, with some scriptural quote suggesting I'm not holding up my end of a deal.

I then say something like "I thought you said all I had to do was accept Jesus as my saviour" Meaning this sounds like a threat to my after-earth life. Then they tell me that I ought to be moved to do more, as defined by them and indicate that maybe I'm not that committed to the Lord if I'm not feeling the pull toward their suggestion. 

Now the thing here is that if they said it was for the club, I'd be ok, it would just be the pressure typical of getting involved with volunteer work and I'd make my decision based on what I think about the club. But putting the Lord behind it ups the ante considerably and is a real turn off. It comes across like a con game.

I know fellowship is important, and a good sermon goes a long way. However, using the call to Jesus as a sort of trap - no thanks.

edit - this came on after reading the discussion on the New Testament and the 'difference' of Jesus and the things he taught.

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Thu, Oct 19, 2017 - 8:57pm
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@ Happy Now

The only thing that will work at getting the message across is G.L. inviting us to his home and all of us sitting down for two days, discussing the Truth. We could have G.L., Mr. Fix, ag1969, Myself and even AB. Now would than not be exciting? Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
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NW VIEW wrote: The only thing

NW VIEW wrote:

The only thing that will work at getting the message across is G.L. inviting us to his home and all of us sitting down for two days, discussing the Truth. We could have G.L., Mr. Fix, ag1969, Myself and even AB. Now would than not be exciting? Jim

That would be a mind-blower. We all spend a lot of time, individually, trying to arrive at the Truth.

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