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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 12:36pm argentus maximus
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I knew (and loved) a lady once who tracked "Biorhythms " . Interesting in a way. Hard to tell where 'uncanny' accurate ends and placebo effect begins. And then there's my theory, which I wisely kept to myself, that the best scientist to offer insight to her mind state cycles was an OB/GYN ...

Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 1:02pm
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What a great weekend!

Went camping in an undisclosed location. Beautiful, simply beautiful. Read a book, played some guitar/uke, caught a couple trout, met some peeps, one of whom may want to do some backpacking with me. I also drove some extremely scenic routes far off the beaten path through glorious forests which I hadn't previously seen. Thoroughly enjoyable and rewarding!

I'm feeling so good I even put an avatar up! I suppose it's about time. ;-)

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
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I'm holding a small olive branch

offering it up to the forum. I am well aware that I have "rustled some jimmies" here lately. It's not that I mind rustling jimmies now and then, but I do try to hold myself accountable for my behavior, and I concede that I did some "venting" here. I could've handled myself differently and I probably should have. For that, I will apologize.

I hope all of you can look past this.

In regards to the "why" of it:

I am going to speak only for myself here although I am fairly certain that there are many people in the USA who would relate to what I'm about to say. There are many many topics where as a white man, I am expected to not state any opinions or present any facts relating to arguing a point. It is simply socially unacceptable with the new religion of "political correctness" If I actually speak from either a position of advocacy or even defense or white people I am called a "racist".

If I was a black man and spoke for my people, others might say about me: "He's an empowered black man"

If I was a Mexican and spoke for my people, others might say about me: "He's in touch with his culture"

As a white man though, I live in a culture where pointing out my pride in my ancestors and those I feel kindredship with will often get me called "racist"

We recently went through a severely divided political cycle where I was called a "homophobe", an "Islamophobe", a "sexist", a "racist", a "white-supremist", a "nazi" just for attempting to rationally debate issues. Not in the manner I have done here recently. In a very polite manner. I found that whenever I presented any evidence to my points, the leftists, having no actual facts to refute my assertions would simply name-call and try to shut me up through "shaming" me.

I am very, very tired of this type of behavior.

I state the above not as an excuse, but as an explanation.

As Mr Fix might say: "causation"

cheers

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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 2:26pm stackaloha
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Stackaloha, the evil empire has been "tractor tipping" us,

with their political correctness.

tractor tipping
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 2:42pm
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SSkierer,  I apperciate your

SSkierer,

I apperciate your testimony of having a positive experience in the Orthodox Russian Church. And I am under no illusion that despite institutional problems in the Roman Catholic Church, that people who do go are not getting what they are looking for. Otherwise, all the churches would be closed.

I was referring to Fix's past testimony of his experiences with Nuns in school. There is clearly institutional problems, that's being nice, yet, I'm sure on a local level there are those untouched or unphased by the higher level "imbalances"

Fix's comment taken out of context would paint him in an unfair and distored manner. Am I defending Fix? I'm defending reason whereever it may go astray.

So we have a misattribution of a quote that has some validity. It is taken out of context inorder to character assisinate it's intended targets. Not so much having anything to do with passing into the unconscious mind.

So a man gives honest testimony as to his experience, and a guy who admits to lying, because it's merited, and threatens to punch another member, nobody finds even an ounce of hypocrisy in that? NOt even a teeny, weeny bit. And Fix's testimony overtime of his personal experiences with nuns might explain his comment.

I'm open to you pointing out where I might be in error.

I'm thinking somebodies biorhythms is significantly out of whack.

Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 2:52pm
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I posted this book sometime

I posted this book sometime back. I think I shared it for Ruffian.

Some months back I posted about J. Allen Boone.

I said it was a book about animals. It is much more. It is a deeply spiritual book filled with all sorts of concepts from psychology to vibration etc….But he writes in such a way that it can be appealing to all people because it’s stories. It’s up to you to distill the principles and lessons. It's a book you read over and over again and apply the principles.

I think it’s this book or his first one, that he talks about a native american and rattle snakes.

He reminisces about how the native americans would fast and go on vision quests when they needed insights into a problem.

He talks with one about rattle snakes. He never knew one native american that had ever been bitten by a rattle snake. Yet, time and time again, the white man had been bitten and attacked by the descipble creature responsible for the downfall of humanity.

He talks about how the native american found all things in nature in it’s rightful place and each had place and purpose. While the white man in his quest to control his environment for some reason always would try to dominate the snake and for some unexplained reasons, they were always victims to the rattlers poison. Must be a color thing? A race thing? Nope.

See the Native American didn’t play the preference game. He played the understanding game. The moment he afforded the rattle snake it’s right to exist, , for some mysterious, highly esoteric reason, the rattle snake afforded the native american his right to have passage without injury. The native american validated the snakes existence and the snake validated the native american’s existence. Although some might think, that snakes don’t have that ability to pick up on vibration/emotions? Well, not according to the literature.

So whatever you want to call a bias/an attitude/a believe system. It's just a name. Not liking the name doesn't take the vibration away. Yelling, that the label doesn't apply to you because it has political ramifications doesnt' eliminate the vibration.

There is an old saying, that which you hate, you attract to yourself.

It doesn't matter how politicians fuck up the culture. Maybe it's just societies biorhythms. Cycle of decline, cycle of immigration, cycle of goverment darkness. Whatever. You are now living in a reality where you can be in competition with it or make peace with it which I assume some of you will go to your grave without that ever happening. So be it.

But if you live in a multicultural city and you carry that insivislbe, unconscious believe system, you can lie all your want to yourself, but one day it's going to bite you.

Being I am as white as a virgin snow fall. Do I want to censor comments that say, I hate this or that. NO! Not by force of law. But in a free republic, if you want the right to free speech. You're going to have to give it to the other guy. And if in response, you don't like it that you're just going to drop to the animal level and troll. Your forgo your right because now you are making an encroachment.

Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 2:56pm stackaloha
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Heya Stackaloha

stackaloha wrote:

offering it up to the forum. I am well aware that I have "rustled some jimmies" here lately. It's not that I mind rustling jimmies now and then, but I do try to hold myself accountable for my behavior, and I concede that I did some "venting" here. I could've handled myself differently and I probably should have. For that, I will apologize.

I hope all of you can look past this.

In regards to the "why" of it:

I am going to speak only for myself here although I am fairly certain that there are many people in the USA who would relate to what I'm about to say. There are many many topics where as a white man, I am expected to not state any opinions or present any facts relating to arguing a point. It is simply socially unacceptable with the new religion of "political correctness" If I actually speak from either a position of advocacy or even defense or white people I am called a "racist".

If I was a black man and spoke for my people, others might say about me: "He's an empowered black man"

If I was a Mexican and spoke for my people, others might say about me: "He's in touch with his culture"

As a white man though, I live in a culture where pointing out my pride in my ancestors and those I feel kindredship with will often get me called "racist"

We recently went through a severely divided political cycle where I was called a "homophobe", an "Islamophobe", a "sexist", a "racist", a "white-supremist", a "nazi" just for attempting to rationally debate issues. Not in the manner I have done here recently. In a very polite manner. I found that whenever I presented any evidence to my points, the leftists, having no actual facts to refute my assertions would simply name-call and try to shut me up through "shaming" me.

I am very, very tired of this type of behavior.

I state the above not as an excuse, but as an explanation.

As Mr Fix might say: "causation"

cheers

Sounds like you had a nice trip. I feel you when it comes to the uncivil climate of political debate. A lot of people on the Left want to pretend that there haven't been the things you described, let alone people bloodied and swarmed by mobs. Like the pushback we're seeing everywhere materialized out of the blue or something.

Here's a more cheery song befitting of the day.

" hey, it's gonna be okay
it's gonna be okay

there's no time
our existences are predecided lines
we are just the actors
so let's put on our costumes and let's shine

i'm so obsessed
with the idea that there's better days to see
i believe in us
our connection is all i've got left
and i'm always gonna be right by your side"

https://youtu.be/yCCWB5z1uG0?t=19s

Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 2:57pm
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re LIbertarians

Barter,

You have such a problem with accuracy and diligence. Do you think I'm a libertarian? do you think I have any association with any political party? Why do you think that somebody might have association with a party that wants to make changes? Because as an individual, you have NO leverage. You have to play the institution game.

Again, you’re tied to superficiality of thought, looking at labels to assess an idea, and try to demonize others, even an entire group, by applying an idea absolutely across an entire spectrum of thought that is obviously not homogenous like any collective of individuals. Just what time is your mental biorhythms at peak??

Guess what? I’m not a libertarian. Turd introduced me as one. yet, I’ve not once belonged to their party although I support many of the idea’s, and not all. In a world, where people feel dizzy if they don’t have a label they can latch on to you, for ease sake, I just say I’m a libertarian but quickly speak to the idea’s that are being espoused, if I’m not espousing them myself. Makes life awhole lot easier.

I am also an anarchist (not the left communist type). A voluntarist and all the words. . And they don’t like libertarians because they support limited government. They want total freedom in an unfree world. Good thinking, but a pipe dream.

But the problem with all of them is that they don’t have a chance in hell in ever taking hold in our society which makes me part of the realist party..

It seems there are three people on this forum that ever espoused any form of codified political philosophy. There could be more but three that have consecutively posted such idea's

That makes us a target against those who are not willing to go on the record. But yours seems very reminiscent of the do whatever is necessary to make things right, according to you. That’s the most dangerous political philosophy because that is exactly how government works. The only difference is that you have differences on what should be the result, but the means are exactly the same without ever realizing that’s what got us here in the first place.

A workable system of government is whatever the people and government can uphold for the time. PERIOD. Said in a woo woo esoteric way, whatever the Collective Consciousness of the nation is ready to support. And while I support the Constitution, it’s not the end all because it’s trying to distill invisible principles that people don’t understand otherwise we wouldn’t need courts, and constitutional experts to interpret what is available to all of us.

But why have a political philosophy? Why waste your time burdening your mind with such crap? Because you have a bench mark for how far the republic has strayed from an actual workable system.

The reason you liked Trumped so much is because he said he was going to do things that made you feel good. You kicked and screamed when AM gave a full length testimony on why the entire anti-establishment crap was just that. HOW DO YOU KNOW? Who are you to say? Yeah?

Yeah? Or maybe you found it convenient to ignore all the cycle and trend stuff that says, he wasn’t going to turn it around. Not sold on that philosophy either? Maybe the man without a model. Just preferences?

The other nifty thing about having a model that is workable, and there is no perfect model is that the people who have it, get more right than they get wrong. Even 51% to 49 % wrong in my book is a decent track record.

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Back in the fray...

Having a lunch break between work, and back to back road trips, leaves me little time to catch up on the mountain of posts that have been accumulating lately.

For the sake of saving time, and easily eliminating everything that has no value whatsoever, I'm not wasting my time with IRB.

Green Lantern, thanks for joining me in the effort to explore a larger point, other than correctly identifying and attributing the correct propagandist.

Quite frankly, I've heard that quote 100 times, always attributable to Gobles , and hadn't questioned the source. Why? Because it didn't matter to me.

As I've been stating for years now,

I put principles before personalities.

With such a strategy, evaluating statements as opposed to sources saves a lot of time.

No doubt, when you conclude that "history is always written by the victors”, the age old adage "the good guys always win" goes up in flames.

Also, I appreciate the posting of that article documenting the demon possessed cunts wearing penguin suits abusing children.

If this is a "Family friendly” thread, I find that identifying a bunch of demonically inspired bitches who will fuck with your kids both topical, and useful.

Ruffian,

Thanks for reading the article I posted,

Freedom of speech as outlined in our First Amendment, was specifically designed to guarantee the right to speak out against government entities.

Otherwise, what good is it?

In my view, that man is a hero, although he was terribly ill-informed as to securing legal counsel.

As soon as he got himself a member of the BAR on his team, he was going down in flames.

What most people don't know, is that anyone who can legally argue a case for someone else in an American court, is required by law to swear allegiance to the British royal crown, and is not working for you, they're working for the system.

There are ways to win in court, but, a lawyer will very often steer you in completely the opposite direction, particularly if it's the system itself that's in jeopardy.

Otherwise, he's just criminally overpriced, which is one of the perks of being in the ”club”. By the way, when a lawyer starts screwing you over, you've got nowhere else to turn. They're not allowed to go after each other, it's one of the "club” rules.

In essence, that man was simply exposing a workable strategy, but didn't realize he would be fucked by his own lawyer.

People need to start understanding how these laws work, and how to argue them in front of a jury.

It's something you can't simply pay a lawyer to do.

Last night I listened to an interesting narrative from Ken O’Keefe, explaining how our rights have been stripped from us.

Video unavailable

In the margin, I saw that Max Egan was calling Ken's strategy a pyramid scheme, so I got the gist of that.

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Ken O'Keefe Responds To The Claims His World Citizen Contract Is A Pyramid Scheme
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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GL

" You have such a problem with accuracy and diligence. Do you think I'm a libertarian? "

Post wasn't to you. Didn't mention you.

All the words after that are woven around that egocentric assumption on your part,

so I won't embarrass you further by reading them.

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Mr. Fix

It is uncanny how you get people to become utterly and completely unglued. I don't understand. I am not at all offended by your comments. But, once a year or so, someone completely snaps and goes insane as a result of your words. We had the board certified Doctor that stalked you here and on youtube. You had Peckerwood, and now IRB has left the reservation and gone full retard.

You are going to have to have AM chart when you have made each person go insane and see if a pattern is developing. Have you kept a troll diary?

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I Run Bartertown wrote: " You

I Run Bartertown wrote:

" You have such a problem with accuracy and diligence. Do you think I'm a libertarian? "

Post wasn't to you. Didn't mention you.

All the words after that are woven around that egocentric assumption on your part,

so I won't embarrass you further by reading them.

Don't make an iota of a difference who you were addressing. It reaks of sophistry, just like all of your arguments. I'm the only one in this forum that has even remotely associated themselves with libertarian thought. So I projected myself in there.

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Ideology of the Titans

Ideology of the Titans

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ag1969 wrote: You had

ag1969 wrote:

You had Peckerwood, and now IRB has left the reservation and gone full retard.

Retard?? What's wrong with you man. That's totally politically incorrect. Are you saying he has down syndrome? Or you are just saying you don't have a preference for total stupidity? I'll contemplate that on my own don't give me hint.

Not one individual has addressed my question on whether Barter is using the same technique as the website author is accusing others have?

And I taught you all how in logic no answer means guilty as sin.

If you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers” (James 2:9).

God isn’t about separation, but inclusion and unity. Jesus made it possible for anyone to be included in the people and promises of God (Galatians 3:28)

About the age to come, we see a heavenly picture: “a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb” (Revelation 7:9-10).

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Barter,  I was only a young

Barter,

I was only a young lad in high school when I discovered the fuck you method of arguement. Allow me to define, I have no intellegent way to make an arguement, I have no substance to substantiate it, so my reply is fuck you. It would save you a whole lot of typing if you just cut and pasted that easy reply. Because that's all it amounts to.

By the way, I ran into Nana earlier. I asked her thoughts on having you speak on her behalf. A miracle occurred and God gave her a voice to reply to me. She quoted the bible.

A fool trying to say something wise is like a crippled person trying to walk.

A fool trying to say something wise is like a drunk trying to pick a thorn out of his hand.

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Green Lantern wrote: So in

Green Lantern wrote:

So in the spirit of completeness. Let me give some of your statements a stab with the same intention.

Well at least it is not an echo chamber.

ARe you certain about this postulate? You assert that there is absolute no group think present here? Really?

You assert what it is not. Sure, it's not alot of things. Not a death torture chamber, not an online rape fantasy share. Wheww... And millions more things. I'd be interested to hear from you what you think it has become and what the overriding theme is daily that we can't get past.

You can say with integrity and honesty that there exists no sign of a group dynamic whose agenda that has a personal agenda??It really is overt but like many things, for some reason the group mind has problems stating it. Which is in interesting point of how a group mind can work? Maybe?

Maybe. There's enough disagreement to satisfy my definition of 'not an echo chamber'.

In terms of what it's become that we can't get past, my best guess is violent agreement on something that's an observation and hung up on control of the investigation. Who controls the definition for instance of the word 'cause'.

Green Lantern wrote:

The Goebbels quote mistake is important because once his image is used it does matter who said it. And also who didn't. For a bunch of reasons.

Interesting that you fail to mention the reason in which the website stated why it was important that the misattribution be corrected. Do you recall the reason the author stated that it was important to make a correction>

Sorry, which author? Seriously there were quite a few references. In any event those were my own thoughts on what's most important relevant to that misquote, this forum and discussion. Not meant to be an encompassing list. IRB nailed the connection and laid it out perhaps better than I did.

Green Lantern wrote:

And you don't at all take exception to the actual content but how it is used in conjunction with Goebbels photo. Because the intention is what that website was bringing your intention to. Do you find that Fix presentation of the quote violated the stated intention?

Uh, I don't recall either agreeing or taking exception to the content.

Fix's points are undermined because the quote is flawed. And if flawed enough it would make a counter-argument. For the reasons I gave earlier.

Green Lantern wrote:

My viewpoint. Not even close. If he had, I would have taken him to task. Although, I'm fond of Mr. Fix. He and I have never had any problem with calling each other out on content and having a debate on differences.

I saw this:

Mr. Fix wrote:

Then the picture that abguy supplied with the woman selling....who cares what but it pulls me in.

Then your contributions of ads etc. (yes even the swimming pool ad)

Then this:

Green Lantern wrote:

However, wild guess, I imagine that technically inclined people like Abguy and Fix might be able to fight the impulse and buy the equipment that best suits their needs. I would hope.

and came up with this:

HappyNow wrote:

GL good point that the girl with the grapefruits wouldn't get past Mr. Fix. Interesting to note he's at least a sucker for a man in a good black suit.

The first sentence is my take on what you said and the second sentence is what the sum total inspired.

Green Lantern wrote:

All your reasons are actually true statements in my opinion. But do you think that the actual statement, independent of who stated it, has any validity?

There have been a lot of statements. If you have scaled way way up then yes any statement independent of who stated it may have some validity. If you have a particular statement in mind with this, feel free to re-state or just move on if it's not of interest.

Green Lantern wrote:

You might have read a post I made in the last couple of months about false memories and how easy it is to implant.

I've experienced that, by accident and not by people intent in planting memories. I heard the same story told over and over by close friends and eventually told the story in the first person several times until someone asked where in the car I was sitting since all seats were accounted for. It was an embarassing experience and at the same time created a lot of insight. I have used it to my advantage once as well. I don't recall that post of yours but I'll accept that it's not that hard if one has a level of control over the environment.

Green Lantern wrote:

While it is important to note what gets past your filters and what doesn't (as in the issue of people being influenced to buy an electronic device because of cleavage), I think it is important for like minded people interested in the subject to be impeccable about what the game is with that picture.

So if the statement has some truth to it, it is not the actual statement that they are trying to get past your filters. Is it?

It's using a true statement to take another party to task by framing their point of view as a lie without ever dealing with the content. Or do you see something different.

OK I think I see where you are going now. I'll see if I can post more of my thoughts later in order to be transparent. I do care about quotes and recall accidently getting Ruffian upset by challenging something she attributed to Einstein. You said something that quickly gave me a better perspective so when Ruffian said she just liked the quote I got it. On the other hand she wasn't tying the quote to some greater conspiracy or using it to justify a position etc.

I hear people explain things going badly saying "It's Murphy's Law" when it isn't really Murphy's Law but an approximation which in most circumstances makes no material difference but every now and then it does make a difference and I call it out. And get looked at like a nerd haha but a few get the subtlety.

= Green Lantern wrote:

Pointing out that the quote wasn't said by Goebbels is no big deal. But I find it interesting that nobody besides me and Fix thought it important to point out an overt misinterpration of a statement in one of the founding documents and use it to defend an abhorent, a very non-Christian point of view. Or a dozen other statements that get made that have no founding in truth.

So it makes one wonder if this is about Mr. Fix or the scholarly pursuit of truth and a real interest in understanding the dynamic of influencing the unconscious.

A bit of both. It depends on what stirs me and when. It costs me a lot to write as much as I have tonight. I tend to pick up on Fix's stuff more than most because I think he's close to something but far enough off that taking the approach he has is a hazard to his own view.

I also have a thing about influence, advertising, and a pile of other which is mixed in here.

= Green Lantern wrote:

The group think here has many subtle components. Seems worthwhile for somebody to point out since we as a collective are fond of point out the collective mind in individuals who have not woken up to gold or the lies of the MSM.

Ok so in the end you believe there is some group think here I need to be aware of. I am aware that speaking of crop circles as magic may be pushing the limits, and that in general gold is a good thing (but it's no secret that I trade). MSM lies, of course, but that isn't the exclusive domain of MSM. If you are gently telling me that my opinions aren't welcome you'll need to be less subtle. I don't post a lot due time anyway. If you are gently telling me you think I'm not awake well you'll need to be less subtle. Did you leave the Roman Catholic Church out by accident or because not enough of the collective thinks that way?

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