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Simpson

" I don't remember the OJ thing "

I slept through the whole chase. Was supposed to be on my way to the beach to meet the GF of the time. I had been working FT+OT for months and full time school schedule and just sunk into a 12 hour snooze. Missed the 'big happenings' and got accused of cheating when I didn't make it in time or answer the phone. Damn you, OJ.

" cuz that's just horrifying "

Meh. Catholics. It really couldn't have turned out any other way. Just wait to see what kind of brew comes out of African Catholicism. From what I've read, some of their creative tortures with various jungle products would make a man beg for an Aztec to come along and save him with a nice clean simple knife.

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OJ would have dominated the

OJ would have dominated the news cycle like it did years ago when human beings were asleep and weren't complaining about all the corruption in Washington. But It was still there. OJ newscycle, well, it probably dies quickly. How do you compare that with what's going on in the world today?

I kid you not. When the OJ Simpson verdict was being read, everybody in my company flocked into a conference room except the Vice President of Marketing who pretended he wasn't interested.

The only thing I can say about Oj Simpson, is that is the face of a very sick, unhappy man. Life hasn't been good to him since that day.

This isn't what you call radiant health.

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MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA

https://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2017/07/19/under_trump_party_planner_hud_ends_obama_s_battle_against_segregation_in.html

Under Trump Party Planner, HUD Abruptly Ends Obama's Battle Against Segregation in Westchester

For eight years, Rob Astorino has led Westchester County, New York in its refusal to comply with the terms of a federal consent degree to hasten the integration of New York City’s racially stratified wealthy northern suburbs.

Ten times, the county submitted a self-satisfied examination of how county zoning impacts racial segregation and what leaders planned to do about it. (Conclusions: It doesn’t; nothing.) Ten times the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development rejected that “analysis of impediments.”

In April, a few weeks after HUD deemed the county’s latest effort “unacceptable," a federal appeals panel declared that Westchester—the swath of small towns and cities between the Hudson River and the Long Island Sound—was “engaging in total obstructionism” by failing to comply with the 2009 settlement. That agreement, signed by Astorino’s predecessor, was the result of a U.S. District Court ruling that Westchester had “utterly failed” to comply with the Fair Housing Act. The Anti-Discrimination Center sued Westchester in 2006 after the county accepted $52 million in HUD grants but falsely certified in the paperwork that it had conducted a proper fair housing analysis.

Then came Lynne Patton, Trump family party planner turned HUD administrator. In June, Patton took office as the head of HUD Region II, which includes New York and New Jersey.

Lo, the 11th time was the charm. On Friday, HUD Regional Director Jay Golden wrote that Westchester’s latest analysis—which, like its previous efforts, did not find any evidence of exclusionary zoning in the county—was good enough, although Astorino staff told the Journal News the document was “essentially the same” as its precursors.

“Westchester vindicated!” Astorino wrote on Twitter on Wednesday afternoon. “HUD capitulates after 7 years. Zoning not exclusionary—like we said all along. #honor”

In April, HUD regional director Jay Golden wrote to Westchester that its analysis of impediments was “unacceptable.”

The county’s strategies to overcoming impediments (most of which it had denied) included “fair housing posters, attending award ceremonies, and participating in panel discussions.” Those also struck HUD planners as insubstantial.

The most recent letter from HUD to Westchester is just one paragraph, with Golden writing that he “appreciates the County’s commitment to reaching an amicable resolution in this matter.” Still, the analysis appears to have barely changed. With respect to Sleepy Hollow, for example, the revised document concludes simply that “both minority populations reside throughout the village.” [ how did we get to a point where a village has to defend itself by saying 'no, don't target us, we do have minorities, target some other town'? - IRB]

Westchester also served as a rallying cry for a larger cohort of conservatives who saw the Obama administration’s attempts to enforce the Fair Housing Act as radical overreach. In a 2015 editorial that his later statements on housing have convinced me he did not actually write, HUD Secretary Ben Carson called Obama HUD Secretary Julian Castro’s policies a “government-engineered attempt to legislate racial equality.”

The Obama Administration didn’t pass any new housing laws. But it did try to finally fulfill the promise of the 1968 law to “affirmatively further fair housing.” Nixon HUD chief George Romney, who viewed racial segregation as the federal government’s preeminent housing challenge, made America’s most promising foray down this road with Operation Breakthrough, which tried to overcome local zoning restrictions as part of a larger national building campaign. Opposition, the New York Times wrote in 1970, was "based on public fear that Washington is simply trying to foist a fancy new form of public housing, with a preponderance of poor and black residents, upon the localities.” Opponents called the plan “socialistic” and “totalitarian." Romney was subsequently dismissed, and Washington never touched the subject again.

At that time, federally enforced housing segregation was in every adult's living memory. Today, it’s easy to pretend America’s segregated settlement patterns are a result of personal preferences and the racial wealth gap. In reality, they helped create the racial wealth gap—and have been, as Richard Rothstein succinctly shows in his new book The Color of Law, enforced through law and federal policy since the late 19th century. Zoning is foremost among those tools that enforce segregation: Single-family residential zoning was largely popularized as a way to circumvent judicial bans on racial covenants and racial zoning. [aka living as a free people, IRB]

This is why the Obama-era HUD made cautious efforts to overcome the restrictions that keep the suburbs segregated. Its Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule asked jurisdictions to prepare reports on how zoning impacted racial segregation within their boundaries. More or less the type of document, in other words, that Westchester County was asked to draw up—and failed, 10 times in eight years, to do properly.

In the end, Westchester won: Its tenacious resistance outlasted reform politics at HUD. All it took was putting a party planner in charge."

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das rite! par-tay!

Towns can make their own zoning laws ... just like before. If your town doesn't want 1,400 units of section 8 apartments, your town can use your collective resources in the way you see fit. Almost like ... freedom. Now to get this applied to towns that aren't rich :-/

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Chuck Jines

Interesting guy. Went to live and photograph in some rough places. Mainly Chicago, New Orleans. I can respect any guy who takes his art that seriously. Talk about an education.

"Chuck Jines is an internationally published independent documentary photographer and photojournalist.

Chuck’s work has been published by prominent news publications such as the BBC, The Daily Mail, The Guardian (2), New York Mag, and the fine-art magazine, Corridor Elephant. Chuck's video work has been used by ABC News/Rock'n Robin Productions special on Hurricane Katrina. Chuck has also provided fixing services for CNN's "This Is Life" with Lisa Ling, and has been invited to display his work at the Chicago History Museum. As well, Chuck has given presentations of his work at Chicago State University, and at DePaul University College of Communication. Chuck's work on heroin has also been exhibited at the Gallery 7 in Joliet Il.."

Exposing with Jerren Episode 3:Photographer Chuck Jines
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RE: Ruffio

Crop circles

shame no one has collected all or as many as possible pics of them. It seems to me they are becoming more elaborate as time goes by. Makes me wonder if they could be a message. Satellite pics might provide a way to link them.

Well, yur prayers have been answered. Cropcircleconnector.com produces yearly collections on DVD, available from their website. And yes, there are 30 or more fantastic designs each year.

OBTW

I have two years and they are mesmerizing to see in the large scale, on a big screen. Yes, they induce a state, spellbinding.

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Just spit-ballin here....(Col. Jessup)

Ever wonder if you are unduly swayed by marketing?

just sayin.....................................

Fri, Jul 21, 2017 - 3:04pm (Reply to #14411)
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Great post.

"So I did a little searching unlike the press." See, you WANT to know.

That's why you'll appreciate this. Same Chuck Jines I posted above talking about what he learned during his years of living in the ghettos he was so 'transfixed and fascinated' by. Real world meets theory, and a fool becomes wise ... remind me why I so want to help the naive people like the ones he's describing in this video? They insulted him too when he tried to help them.

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I started to become aware of the disconnect of how out of touch these upper class white liberals really were.

Basically, what I was experiencing was like 'hey, these black people are coming to kill ya.'

fellow lib: 'oh no, I had a black studies course in college, you're crazy'

Jines 'no, these black people hate you and they're coming to kill ya'

and it was just really hard to get through to these people. They're really arrogant, they think that they know something. These people would talk about diversity and multiculturalism and judge the whole world from this one black person they know at work and would argue with me. Now when I say I spent time in the ghetto, [describes extensive experience] one thing that became very clear to me in doing this over a five year period, was the amount of racism and hatred that black people have for white people. It's just wow, really hard to get your mind around. So will there be a race war? Oh, there's no doubt about it. It's coming home to a theater near you. [on doubters] Their world is very small and they think they know something.

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I Run Bartertown wrote: "

I Run Bartertown wrote:

" The big lie... So many to choose from "

Could start with that false quote.

SS - Bro, it's easy to check. And considering the source, checking would be prudent. Closest he got to that was an article accusing Churchill of using 'the Big Lie' strategy. https://bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm

This is the most popular forged quotation. The full version:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

The quotation usually seems to be used by those on the political left and right, who find it helpful in to associating those they don't like with the Nazis. Since this is so common, my colleague Quentin Schultze and I have begun a blog titled Goebbels Didn’t Say It to follow its spread and, we perhaps too optimistically hope, to reduce its use "

https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb29.htm

Churchill’s Lie Factory

by Joseph Goebbels

"There is no point to debating Mr. Churchill about English ship losses or the damage caused by German air attacks. He follows the time-honored British policy of admitting only that which is impossible to deny, then cutting it in half, while at the same time doubling or tripling the enemy’s losses. This balances the accounts. The astonishing thing is that Mr. Churchill, a genuine John Bull, holds to his lies, and in fact repeats them until he himself believes them. That is an old English trick. Mr. Churchill does not need to perfect it, as it is one of the familiar tactics of British politics, known to the entire world. They made good use of the trick during the World War, with the difference that world opinion believed it then, which cannot be said today. That is because at the end of the World War British plutocracy believed that Germany would never recover. In part from indifference, but also in part from boastfulness, they made the mistake of telling the world the tricks they had used to defeat the Reich. In the memoirs written by British statesmen, Mr. Churchill in particular, one could see that the London plutocrats had no problem lying to high heaven during the war. They were even proud of fooling Germany in so easy and clever a fashion. They revealed their methods. They are not believable any longer. We only need to refer to the World War and note that the same men are determining English news policy as did from 1914 to 1918, and everything becomes clear.

That is of course rather painful for those involved. One should not, as a rule, reveal one’s secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it."

I'd love to check everything I can but I got taken by this one apparently. I have been real busy lately in the new shop I had built last fall building a new tool/work bench with large drawers and raised storage underneath Then I have emptied out the over sized 2 car garage which has been a storage unit for all of my tools, hardware and you name it into the shop for organization and storage. I can now access without digging moving and rummaging for things, access my tools and begin to do stuff again. I am still building and arranging some shelves and racks for existing lumber and materials that came with the new house and the balance of my remaining stuff. I will be able to use my carpentry tools, saws, drills, routers, mechanics tools etc., etc.,

The 48 x 48' shop now houses my wife's diesel truck with her gooseneck horse trailer in one bay, my 18' equipment hauler trailer, our 12' ATV trailer, the Bobcat, the Yamaha Rhino, our new with the house JD small farm/ranch tractor, implements for both the Bobcat and Jd tractor in the center bay with room in the front still. The third bay is housing my bench, tools and supplies along with the lumber materials. It will take a little more organizing to have everything finished up and accessible in an easy manner and I will be so pleased to get back into operation.

So as I know I can check things out my time has been pre occupied with more important issues presently and just trying to keep up with my regular reading has precluded any extras online, not to mention I just got done or nearly done with a very trying possible medical issue that that had my attention riveted, if you wish to follow that issue it is available on the Alternative Medicine thread shared with Ruffian. I had been quite anxious for a couple of weeks and am just now winding down.

In any aspect that quote has likely been made by many over the years in different verbatim. I didn't intend to be rude or condescending regarding your comment about research, but wanted to at least partially share the reason I did not attempt to verify, when I'm in a hurry I will often not think quite as clearly as I should.

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Congrats on your progress!

And on all the cool stuff! Very glad to hear you're nearly done with the medical issue, nothing more important than that. Certainly not checking sources for things on the internet . I think this is one of those times where the limitations of text make communication suffer. Picture yourself, say ... at a bar with someone that you view fondly, and the drunk at the end of the bar spouts off nonsense, then your buddy's all like "TY, that is useful information", and you might be like

'dude, that was BS ...come on, you know that guy ... seriously, bro?'

kinda expecting him to say (or just think) 'oh right, I probably should consider the source'

but instead he gets upset. This was kind of like that.

Glad everything is so much on track for you. All good stuff.

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Yeah, I was wondering the

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing....

Is this first time in American History that the President's secretary was a high powered financier, hedge fund, Goldman Sachs type? What's his name? Anthony Soprano??

Funny thing, looking through the history of Press Secretaries they all seem to be communication directors, former Journalists, PR People. Not this guy, member of the Rockefeller sponsored World Economic Forum, and athe Council for Foreign relations and mucho $$$.

Oh yeah, this makes total sense. I guess he speaks well. Y'all smell something burning?

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Good ways to sell a financial

Good ways to sell a financial website to Gold bugs,

Bad way to sell a metals website to gold bugs