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It's the site. Over the las three or four days, I've had to log in about 13 - 14 times.

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ruff

G.L. can't spell very good but he's pretty smart though.

I like your new picture.

Your a dark horse.

A real outsider.

Keep it up.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 4:11am
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the evolution of 'natural law' by Mr.Fix and Green Lantern

the wheel of karma and tin of piss (and wind)

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. Beer required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

The wheel was invented to get man to the beer and vice versa. These two were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: 1.Liberals. 2.Conservatives

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were less skilled at hunting (called 'vegetarians' which was an early human word meaning 'bad hunter') learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hairdressing. This was the beginning of the liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men evolved into women. Others became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided.

Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass for obvious reasons. Modern Liberals like lite beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: many liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most college professors, social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, film makers in Hollywood, group therapists and community organizers are liberals. Liberals meddled in our national pastime and invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink real beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are members of the military, big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, engineers, corporate executives, athletes, airline pilots, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history. It should be noted that 'Green Lantern' may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to this post. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be shared immediately to other true believers and to just irritate more liberals. And there you have it. Let your next action reveal your true self, I'm going to grab a few beers and grill some steaks!

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 7:55am atarangi
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ata

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:31am
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Is the NSA the real president?

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3239

This info is GOOD.

“’If they weren’t behind it, they certainly had the data. Now the difference here is that FBI and CIA have direct access inside the NSA databases. So, they may be able to go directly in there and see that material there. And NSA doesn’t monitor that. They don’t even monitor their own people going into databases’.”

“So, they don’t monitor what CIA and FBI do. And there’s no oversight or attempted oversight by any of the committees or even the FISA court. So, any way you look at it, ultimately the NSA is responsible because they are doing the collection on everybody inside the United States. Phone calls. Emails. All of that stuff’.”

Please be sure to read the whole thing, the whole entire article, then go back and read it again. Print it up, and refer back to it, so you understand where we really are. No fake B.S. No stated rules that you think bind them when there is nothing binding them and they can act with the most egregious of actions simply because they view you as a threat to their power. Be sure to understand the economic espionage being conducted daily to rob honest businessmen of their life's work and power so a very small power structure can obtain high margin income streams. Be sure to understand how they can villify and ruin honest, hard working citizens with a few keystrokes putting you on "hunt and destroy" lists. What is happening in the US is absolutely sickening.

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Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:42am
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Ata, Man that was one  long

Ata,

Man that was one long WINDED and quite out of character post. Everything ok???

Which brings me to some very neglected history on Breaking Wind.

I love history!!!! This is more word history with legal and political implications

The HIstory of Fart

There is a dirty little secret in this country about liberals and conservatives that few own up to. Both fart equally bad. They stink things up more than rest of us. The philosophy of farts often known as Pungent Naturalism.

My old dictionary’s definition of “fart” was “an explosion between the legs,” but the dictionary didn’t provide a picture of one. so I have.

I liked the kid’s definition better. For some reason, when I hear the word “anus,” I think of planets and Roman gods.

The history of the word “fart” is almost the opposite of an actual fart. The word “fart” goes back at least 800 years to Middle English and possibly beyond. A real fart is brief, usually lasting only a few seconds.

I was surprised that the word “fart” had a history. It goes all the way back to Middle English as “farten” or “ferten.” Old High German had a word “ferzan” which meant “to break wind.” Old Norse’s “freta” also had the same meaning.

I once knew a girl named Freta, and she’s lucky we didn’t know what her name meant. I wonder if she knew. I don’t remember if she passed gas a lot (she probably didn’t), but most boys that I knew passed gas a lot more frequently than she did. I know a lot of boys whose name could have been Ferzan.

FLATULENCE vs. FART

“Flatulence” is a cool word. “Flatulence” is the sophisticated way of saying “the expelling of gas.” People don’t laugh when you say “flatulence.” “Flatulence” is considered to be more sophisticated than “fart” because it’s a longer word. When dealing with bodily functions, like defecating or passing gas or adult relations, the words with three or more syllables are thought of as the more tasteful expressions. The one syllable words are vulgar. Therefore, “flatulence” is appropriate and “fart” is not.

The problem with “flatulence” is that it’s a noun. There is no verb form of “flatulence.” You could say “I flatulented in the elevator” or “I flatulated in line at the grocery store,” but then you’re just making up words. So if you pass gas, and you need a verb to describe what you did and you don’t want to say “fart,” then you need to use a euphemism.

Some euphemisms for the verb “fart” include:

* passing gas

* breaking wind

* letting one rip

* thickening the air

* contributing to global warming

* cutting the cheese

What did William Shakespeare say? “A fart by any other name would smell just as foul.”

Shakespeare is right (even if my quote isn’t). “Flatulence” may be a more acceptable word, but flatulence smells just as bad as a fart.

*****

THE ACCUSATION OF FARTERY

As bad as a fart can be, the accusation of being the farter is much worse. Very few things in school (or in the professional world) are worse than being known as the guy (or girl) that farts. One loud blast (accompanied by a foul stench) will lead to years of suspicion and mockery. I have endured hours of discomfort at times (both at school and in my professional life) to avoid being accused of farting.

The accusation of farting is so serious that a legal defense has been passed down for generations: “The one who smelt it dealt it.”

This is usually followed with “The one who denied it supplied it.”

The problem with saying “The one who smelt it dealt it” is that it (sometimes) leads to an argument over whether or not the word “smelt” is really a past tense form of the word “smell.” “Smelled” is generally considered to be the current past tense form of “smell, but some would also argue that “smelt” is a Middle English form of “smell.”

It doesn’t matter if “smelt” has anything to do with “smell” or not. The phrase proves that kids (who would normally think Old English is for weirdoes) would say “smelt” just to avoid being accused of fartery.

That shows how deadly to a reputation the accusation of farting can be. To a kid, it’s worse than being called a racist as an adult. Neither accusation has to be proven for the charge to stick, and both accusations can destroy your reputation for years.

Me? I’d rather be called a farter than a racist. At least then I could say, “The one who smelt it dealt it,” and have a 50/50 chance of being exonerated.

There are some things in life that a person can’t take back. You can’t take back a fart, and you can’t take back the accusation. The fart lasts for a moment, but the accusation of farting (if it sticks) can last forever.

*****

Which brings me the to the health benefits of farters brought to you by the same guys who invented Fabian socialism and established New Zealand as a colony for the criminally insane.

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:50am atarangi
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@ata natural law

also includes the baked in premise that humans are the arbiters of justice. And that natural law is IN OUR FAVOUR.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Sadly.

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:59am
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Excellent

Catherine Austin Fitts-Trump Taking On Corruption & Lawlessness

Insightful commentary by Catherine Austin Fitts

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Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 9:28am
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Natural law

If anyone ever bothered to actually go through the enormous amount of material I have posted on the topic over the past few years, you would realize that natural law provides for the maximum amount of individual freedom, and is most certainly not a collectivist fantasy. The goal of collectivism is to eliminate individual freedom.

All government is inherently evil, but that's another topic. Human beings do have the capacity govern themselves, but I guess if you can't figure that out, you'll actually vote for somebody who will enslave you, and everyone else.

If you think you've studied natural law by skimming through a Wikipedia post on the topic, you are more misinformed than before you started.

A human beings right to do whatever they wish with their lives, until it interferes with another human beings rights to do exactly the same is a central premise. Arbiters of justice violate this central tenant.

I'm all for a discussion of natural law, but I'm not going to waste my time telling you what it is not.

Natural law is the greatest single enemy of those who wish to govern, those who wish to impose their religious ideologies,

And those who wish to control you through the issuance of worthless pieces of paper they charge you interest on.

That's why the amount of misinformation on the topic is so extraordinary.

Come back after you've done your own homework.

You might as well start here, it doesn't get much better:

Mark Passio - Natural Law Seminar - New Haven, CT - Part 1 of 3
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 10:03am
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nevermind

youtube vids here not working or is it just for me?

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Vid not linking?

Title Catherine Austin Fitts-Trump Taking On Corruption & Lawlessness

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Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 11:23am Mr. Fix
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Mr. Fix wrote: If anyone ever

Mr. Fix wrote:

If anyone ever bothered to actually go through the enormous amount of material I have posted on the topic over the past few years, you would realize that natural law provides for the maximum amount of individual freedom, and is most certainly not a collectivist fantasy. The goal of collectivism is to eliminate individual freedom.

All government is inherently evil, but that's another topic. Human beings do have the capacity govern themselves, but I guess if you can't figure that out, you'll actually vote for somebody who will enslave you, and everyone else.

If you think you've studied natural law by skimming through a Wikipedia post on the topic, you are more misinformed than before you started.

A human beings right to do whatever they wish with their lives, until it interferes with another human beings rights to do exactly the same is a central premise. Arbiters of justice violate this central tenant.

I'm all for a discussion of natural law, but I'm not going to waste my time telling you what it is not.

Natural law is the greatest single enemy of those who wish to govern, those who wish to impose their religious ideologies,

And those who wish to control you through the issuance of worthless pieces of paper they charge you interest on.

That's why the amount of misinformation on the topic is so extraordinary.

Come back after you've done your own homework.

You might as well start here, it doesn't get much better:

Mark Passio - Natural Law Seminar - New Haven, CT - Part 1 of 3
Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 12:34pm Green Lantern
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GL ....

>> "You know this guy Mr. Souchersay can twist things any which way he likes, it don't make it true.

First, I know Minneapolis St. Paul very well. I've been traveling their almost every year since the mid-90's and can't get home quick enough. You guys have plenty of tall towers for a Prarie town or whatever those wide open spaces are on those highly controlled highways with the on ramps with a traffic signals that screws up the flow of traffic worse than NYC. And for heaven's sake, when I get off the plane in Minneapolis, I feel like I landed in Africa. How many Somalians you have in that town? Picking apart liberals?? Weren't you voted the 6th most liberal city in the nation a few years back?" <<

etc, etc, and {holy crap} etc .....

Well GL, as Heinlein said (via Lazarus Long), "To enjoy the full flavor of life, take big bites". Your response to my little note about Garage Logic was quite a mouthful. Amusing and keen observations. Everywhere has its flaws and foibles. So? I've had to shake my head in wonderment a number of times around this great land myself. And yes, for a while there, you were in Africa. Safari opportunities are limited, however, to the occasional coyote.

Then, to follow that up with a Lit. 101 essay on "Farting, Then and Now" was more than worth the price of admission.

I have a bit aof a slow day ahead of me, so keep the posts coming. I'll be checking back often.

Wax off
Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:09pm abguy4
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Cliff High / web bots

abguy4 wrote:

When trying to querry data from human populations, it is the primary consideration that human communities themselves have agendas, and all data populations contain purposeful and unintentional lies and misinformation.

So, to condense a semester into one paragraph, the entire science of data collection is really the science of deriving answers from polluted data bases. Cliff is in fact sorta lying ( I assume so to simplify) when he says he discards known false data. He does not. That false data becomes another very valuable data base from which to derive and predict other false data bases in the future. Data mining is a g.d. big and very very mature science. Espionage has thrown billions at it.

Now that being said, I have my reservations with Cliffy, but I presume he has some sophisticated algorithms with which to querry data. And further I presume that he knows he can be fed a false meme, just so that he would announce it, and thereby gets crucified with it. Its dangerous out on the front lines troops. Every prophet of Truth is under attack.

Thanks for providing this explanation, abguy4 because I've wondered about how it is supposed to work.

I used to read Cliff High's work but stopped a long time ago. He started out with George Ure and I think initially they were trying to predict the stock market. He's been at it at least since 2000 because he claims the webbots predicted 9/11. Along with many others, he was predicting hyperinflation around '08. He also made a bunch of doom predictions about the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012.

Sat, Feb 18, 2017 - 8:38pm
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Prophets?

I think that I have been around more false prophets , in my travels, over the decades, than most. Everyone is looking for someone, anyone, who has an insight within another dimension.

I remember when a doctor that I knew, had a wife and two children, found a girlfriend and was caught. Then I saw the two of them at the local farmers market, having their palms read by a witch. I could have told him about his pathway forward and it would have been FREE and I would have not told him what he wanted to hear from the paid witch.

Then there were the multitude of prophets, mostly false prophets, during the renewal era. Oh the stories I could tell! The real prophets, like Jeremiah, were thrown in prison and did not tell the people what they wanted to hear. Oh what of the prophets who told the coming of the end of the world at Y2K?

Most prophets will not give you a date, only a season, and they all display their priestcraft messages, projecting their "hidden knowledge and powers of discernment" that cannot be verified. Yes, some in the past, have given their dates and have shown forth that they are false prophets.

It is easy for those outside of organized religions to see the folly of the assemblies, believing such foolish claims and at the same time, biting on the foolishness of secular priestcraft. It is time to see these things for what they truly are. jmo Jim

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
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Those Pesky Bohemians

I was reminded of this story when Mr. Fix mentioned Bohemia during a post earlier this week.

Some of you might be aware that this year marks the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation. I think we can all agree that Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the Wittenberg Chapel door marked a significant event in world history.

But, have you ever heard of Jan Hus (John Huss)? I had not until I visited Prague. I think Bohemia was left out of my western civ class, or perhaps I just didn’t pay attention.

Hus, which means goose in the Czech language, was a Bohemian priest and scholar who lived over a century before Luther. He was born around 1370. Luther was apparently fond of referring to Hus as the goose who got cooked for defying the pope. I find no humor in the comment, but whatever.

Hus grew up poor. He admitted he wanted to become a priest in order to escape poverty and to be esteemed among men. He attended Charles University.

Though Hus spent some time with what he called a "foolish sect” embracing church doctrine, he finally discovered the Bible. Hus claimed that when the Lord gave him knowledge of Scriptures, he discharged stupidity from his foolish mind. In other words, Hus felt that once he was able to rid his mind of his formal education, he was able to discover truth.

And the rest, as they say, is history.

Hus went on to argue that Christ alone is head of the church. But he didn’t stop there. He went on to claim that a pope through ignorance and love of money can make many mistakes, and that to rebel against an erring pope is to obey Christ.

He also drew the ire of religious leaders by delivering his sermons in the Czech language. I’ve never been Roman Catholic, but my understanding is that masses were conducted in Latin until the 1960’s when Vatican II approved the use of the vernacular or common languages. But, as I’ve just shown, that is not entirely true. The bible was also in the Czech language. As you might imagine, the common people adored him.

What happened next should come as no surprise. Hus was excommunicated and then put on “trial” for heresy. It was a kangaroo court. Hus was never given the opportunity to present why he believed his beliefs to be true, let alone a fair trial. He refused to recant and was burned at the stake in 1415.

Jan Hus spoke Truth to Power.

Where is our Jan Hus for today?

Or, have we become such perfect human beings that we can no longer err?

By the way, the date of Hus’ execution is a national holiday in the Czech Republic. The country’s motto, truth prevails, comes from Hus.

Edit: Found this movie on youtube. The production quality seems to be even worse than my dvd copy so you might want to just listen. I’m not surprised about the absence of money or a slick production team trying to get this message out, are you?

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sweet dreams are made of these

everyone is looking for something - Mr.Fix isn't so much a false prophet. More of a great guy to hang out with.

Dot's has a charm of it's own.

A bunch of eccentric people who survive 'in a world of illusion'.

Hold your head up!

Only the nicest people hang loose at Dots.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb