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Thu, Feb 2, 2017 - 11:35pm Mr. Fix
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With Dr Js permission

May I have a copy of his book to please? It's one (of many no doubt) short area of my education

Fri, Feb 3, 2017 - 7:54am
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Iran just ditched the dollar

Iran just ditched the dollar in retaliation to Trump. The first domino falls.

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If all domestic terror

If all domestic terror attacks, both here and abroad are false flags including France, Orlando, Boston Marthon, 9-11 etc, etc, etc, , then how can you justify travel bans based on the notion that we are preventing terrorist attacks?

Which one should the alternative community reconsider, the origin of the terror attacks, or the purpose of the travel bans?

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Green Lantern wrote:If all

Green Lantern wrote:

If all domestic terror attacks, both here and abroad are false flags including France, Orlando, Boston Marthon, 9-11 etc, etc, etc, , then how can you justify travel bans based on the notion that we are preventing terrorist attacks?

Which one should the alternative community reconsider, the origin of the terror attacks, or the purpose of the travel bans?

Which one? It's not either / or.

Both. No limitation is required.

The intelligent action is to consider and reconsider everything previously known upon the receipt of all new information.

If there is a sudden rash of dog attacks in a location, you shoot and catch the mad dogs and you find out who let the dogs out then you go after that participant too.

Which takes us back to those inciting riot, sponsoring violence which gets carried out by gullible nobodys taking their role as infantryman for an adopted order giver.

Likewise, teaching the dogs to bite is a participant action. So who was talking about "lone wolf violence" first? Track the original incitement back to the appropriate three letter agency. The source of the problem? The one who told the gate opener to let the dogs out.

It's really quite transparent who is behind most things, a simple process to do a reduction of suspects down to a small number of possibilities. Time and repeated events of varying circumstance, and varying prior announcement to the gate openers, does a new reduction down to an even smaller list.

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Fri, Feb 3, 2017 - 9:21am Mr. Fix
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JMHO

O my O my, the Fixer posts a bible-thumper.

Just the same, if you keep your discernment factor/filter in place, he touches-on some real subjects with some decent insights.

Well OK, I agree (mostly) with what he says here, ( except, I go deaf dumb and blind on the verses) and he apologizes for being all over the map - as he was. Things are coming at us all soooo much faster since the Don snuck-in under the shroud of Soros/NWO. It's getting interesting. I've just had some close friends literally cave-in under the duress of mis-info overload. Literally like shut the drapes and turn off the lights type shut-down. Yesterday my very discerning wife gave me a print-out of an article that affected her and demanded (nicely) that I read it. It was pure blk-ops BS phoney predictions. And I explained all the mis-info to her. That left her sullen, as she realized that she was way behind on so many issues. TPTB have TOTALLY infiltrated the alt sites and very expertly created a few hundred of their own alt-sites . Afterall, they have unlimited(!) funds and manpower. They know, as we do, that the MSM has lost most of their viewers, so how else are they gonna continue the mass brainwashing? They are invading the alt media with a full frontal assault. Massive mis-info on anything Trump. Massive mis-info on everything else - just for good measure, to keep all the sheeple confused. This is pure 100% Counter Intelligence Warfare Policy Handbook 101.

But, here's the reason I was prompted to respond. Listen to what he says at 4:10.

Q-CAST: Antarctica Disclosure Coming!

Whatever you hear , turn it around 180 degrees and see if the 180 viewpoint doesn't serve someone very nicely ~!!!! Soooo many things become clear immediately

For eg.; Iran says their gonna drop the $. What are they up to? Here's my 2c.

Iran has been the CIA/MSM brainwashing big bad boogie man for twenty years. They want off the hot-seat, can you blame them? They want The Don's immediate attention to their "Axis of Evil" status. He says that he's gonna change the US foreign policy. They want to be at the head of that line~! How to get there? What gets the US/NWO attention faster than messing with the $. It's a risky move, but they have Russia and China at their back. A shot at Don? - I doubt it. More like throwing a big chip on the (negotiations) table, to get your attention. Obviously they don't wanna get blown to Hell like the last two guys (Libya and Iraq), that threatened the dollar, so what are they up to?

Step back and take ten deep breathes.

JMHO.

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abguy4 wrote: ....Iran has

abguy4 wrote:

....Iran has been the CIA/MSM brainwashing big bad boogie man for twenty years. They want off the hot-seat, can you blame them? They want The Don's immediate attention to their "Axis of Evil" status. He says that he's gonna change the US foreign policy. They want to be at the head of that line~! How to get there? What gets the US/NWO attention faster than messing with the $. It's a risky move, but they have Russia and China at their back. .... like throwing a big chip on the (negotiations) table, to get your attention. Obviously they don't wanna get blown to Hell like the last two guys (Libya and Iraq), that threatened the dollar, so what are they up to?...

Serendipity. As it happens , in The Setup thread yesterday, I posted on this exact subject. It might be interesting if you haven't seen it already.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/661984#comment-661984

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Fri, Feb 3, 2017 - 9:49am Anonymous
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Ruffian and separation

I totally agree.

I find that any time anyone uses religion as some form of dictate it never ends well. It usually has a violent pendulum swing in the opposite direction.

Fri, Feb 3, 2017 - 10:04am NW VIEW
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@NW View... I am confused as to your comment?

The article that I posted was an example of a very healthy church and its leader "doing his best" to answer the question that the Leftist Liberals have been trying to use to "expose" the hypocrisy of Christ and His followers.

Checks and balances. Between religion and government. Both have their places and both should not dictate to the other. And it is quite a balancing act...

My view of Muslims is no different than yours I imagine. I believe it to be more of a political organization, just like the Catholics. I would imagine that under the totalitarian control of either I would face very harsh treatment as I view them to be diabolically wrong... Does that mean individual Muslims and Catholics are bad? Nope, the individuals are great, but when they form a mass/mob and follow the dictates of one man who is "chosen" by some invisible host, well then its on like donkey kong...

New testament - I firmly believe I have the right to protect myself, while not hurting anyone else that means me no harm. How many times do I forgive my brother? 7 x 70! But Jesus did not tell you to be stupid enough to hang around that long either. Use Discernment to make good choices to avoid the need to forgive your brother 7 x 70...

I believe a country has the right to protect itself, the same way every country has had that right; including those who we conquered to be US citizens today... As such, we are the protectors of this country and if we trade that for beads then we too will become just like the Indian... Of course I don't think we will get to own casinos to help fund our futures. We will most likely be enslaved by our new masters until that time we either fight or die... What would Jesus do? I think He already answered that question...

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@ LostMind

Well yes, confusion is always present. All of us have differing revelations as to how things really are and how they work. We have a difficult time in understanding how someone has developed their position. If we have a BBQ in my back yard and we invite Mr. Fix, LostMind, G.L., ag1969, Jer. Jr., and MaryAnn, having an open discussion of our beliefs and how we arrive there, all would be scratching their heads in wonder. All of us have inner beliefs and we filter the events of the world through those beliefs. All want to rescue mankind from the events that have altered Life and Freedom. For many there is not a "half way" house but a seeking of deliverance from all bondage. Yes I know, this post may be confusing, but my bbq area is available for a gathering. Jim

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Thank you NW View for the invite

Yes, confused and in need of a bbq!

I think we all would be able to navigate and get to a better understanding if we were to actually see each other face to face.

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No More Arguments

I'm not a big fan of Cantwell, or really Molyneaux either if you get right down to it,

but when the guy who loved nothing more than to argue ... or to point out that his opponent's rebuttal was 'not an argument' ..

is done arguing, that's got to be a good thing. He seems a little glum about it ... I'm sure he'll get over it once we move past this frustrating pre-war stage.

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Fri, Feb 3, 2017 - 5:03pm argentus maximus
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argentus maximus wrote: Green

argentus maximus wrote:
Green Lantern wrote:

If all domestic terror attacks, both here and abroad are false flags including France, Orlando, Boston Marthon, 9-11 etc, etc, etc, , then how can you justify travel bans based on the notion that we are preventing terrorist attacks?

Which one should the alternative community reconsider, the origin of the terror attacks, or the purpose of the travel bans?

Which one? It's not either / or.

Both. No limitation is required.

The intelligent action is to consider and reconsider everything previously known upon the receipt of all new information.

If there is a sudden rash of dog attacks in a location, you shoot and catch the mad dogs and you find out who let the dogs out then you go after that participant too.

Which takes us back to those inciting riot, sponsoring violence which gets carried out by gullible nobodys taking their role as infantryman for an adopted order giver.

Likewise, teaching the dogs to bite is a participant action. So who was talking about "lone wolf violence" first? Track the original incitement back to the appropriate three letter agency. The source of the problem? The one who told the gate opener to let the dogs out.

It's really quite transparent who is behind most things, a simple process to do a reduction of suspects down to a small number of possibilities. Time and repeated events of varying circumstance, and varying prior announcement to the gate openers, does a new reduction down to an even smaller list.

That would make my question a false dichotomy or fallacy of false choice IF you were operating in the realm that all things aren't absolute, as you are. But if you advocated in the past on the side that all publicized terror events were false flags than you are bound by the false choice. You would either either have to reconcile with two incompatible realities or ideally both absolutes collapse and then you are forced to ask the question, what's really going on and what are the motivations?

And Abguy ain't playing that either.

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GL and Sengfarmer re: Sinclair...

You guys have had a long-running quarrel regarding whether or not Sinclair runs a Ponzi scheme. Apparently, Seng thinks GL said that he does, and it seems he did at some point.

I have no dog in that fight, but it seems to me that Sinclair is very much like many of us here in Turdville, a PM believer who has been smashed at every turn by the elites, who benefit more than anyone by those PM smashes.

Where Sinclair differs from most of us, is that he owns a gold mine in Tanzania.

I cannot know or say whether his gold mine will be a great investment, though I think it may. However, saying he runs a Ponzi scheme is quite a charge. I really do not think Sinclair is as corrupt as the U.S. government (Social Security, T-bond market, etc), or many other true Ponzi's currently being run around the world. In fact, I sincerely doubt he runs a Ponzi at all.

He does run a gold mine, though. And to me, unless you own substantial phyzz already, miner shares are not the best way to invest for the future. MHO.

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abguy4 wrote:Iran has been

abguy4 wrote:

Iran has been the CIA/MSM brainwashing big bad boogie man for twenty years. They want off the hot-seat, can you blame them? They want The Don's immediate attention to their "Axis of Evil" status. He says that he's gonna change the US foreign policy. They want to be at the head of that line~! How to get there? What gets the US/NWO attention faster than messing with the $. It's a risky move, but they have Russia and China at their back. A shot at Don? - I doubt it. More like throwing a big chip on the (negotiations) table, to get your attention. Obviously they don't wanna get blown to Hell like the last two guys (Libya and Iraq), that threatened the dollar, so what are they up to?

Step back and take ten deep breathes.

JMHO.

So it's true, Iran isn't the hairy beast any more than Russia. The propaganda against Iran is more or less than was done against Russia? Caught in another false dilemma.

And you asked the question what are they up to? That applies to both sides, right?

Well, what are we up to if they are not the hairy beast, and those missiles are Russian then once again we are back to nothing is as it seems. And to my amazement both the left CNN, and right, Breibart are saying the same thing. Something smells to high hell, don't it??

Sure, China, Russia and Tehran are working toward a more equitable world were the dollar doesn't kick them around. I'm accepting that as an absolute and near certainty in the future. But I have said that I'm banking on at least two years of some excitement in the markets, the dollar, and maybe even gold at the same time?

Is Trump on the same page yet? With all those financial guru's from Goldman at his side, I'm assuming he knows as much us here if not more.

So, maybe you're right. It's a negotiation in the works, and they are stepping up and playing Donald's game. Australia and Mexico in the right corner, and Tehran and hidden players in the left corner. Trump is a real super hero doing this all at the same time and hoping he doesn't make any important slips.

Of course you know Iranian sanctions very well when Bush did it, and Obama called for sanctions over the evil nuclear threat to our security. Why have I never been nervous about cross oceanic missiles hitting the US from Iran? Because those are for their defense with Israel, not an offensive tool to blow us to smithereens. ONce a lie always a lie.

Was the recent missile fire a violation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of the UN like is being reported? . Nope. So that's not the truth either. Let's deal with our side for a bit more.

Obama had something else when he put those sanctions in place like blocking Iranian gas being sold to the EU in Euro's and blocking Russian gas which turned it's sales to China. Anybody notice those tankers that set sail for the EU on January 27th?? What timing..... And what is the price of oil recently in US dollars? Not such a good move on Iran if they are accepting Euro's instead of Dollars. The dollar is looking good or not so good? Timing is everything?

So two false choices, it's not about the missiles, and it's not, at least immediately about the dollar, if the timing is wrong. So we're being played and hopefully for a better outcome.

So we have three buddies. You're damn right China and Russia got Iran's back. Missiles and gas free flowing among buddies. It's no longer about what they say is it? And Trump is withdrawing Obama's sanctions or adding on to them? Trump promising better relations with Russia but mum's the word on improving relations with Tehran.

Similarly, we don't even know if Trump's new threat against Clinton is another sort of negotiation to call off the "dogs" as AM put it. The on again and off again hunt of crimes against Hillary. Sure, putting Hillary in jail is going to make a lot of people feel good but that would take off the table some negotiating leverage for Mr. Trump. Better to keep the pressure on and use it as leverage on other things.

So everything before our eye's is one ongoing negation with nobody quite sure exactly what is being negotiated. This is a new development?

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 a PM believer who has been

a PM believer who has been smashed at every turn by the elites

I don't accept this premise. I belief your statement to be patently false. I accept the premise that the greatest foe of the PM believers, I am one of them, has been ourselves and not reading the ascending and descending trend lines correctly because not everyone in the PM sector has been victim to the manipulation.

This argument has been vetted extensively by experts in the field of trading and while you can make the statement there is manipulation in the market and there is great deal of evidence that there is, great traders and investors do not hold others accountable for their shortcomings. If you know of any, I request that you post them. Since your statement is an allegation, that has not yet been founded by US Courts, any investment that you believe to be highly manipulated, you should seek outside advice on whether the risk involved is appropriate for your investment strategy.

I cannot know or say whether his gold mine will be a great investment, though I think it may.

You think it maybe is based on what? Any form of due diligence on the property.

Have you read the feasibility studies? The ones never released? And the small print in the press releases, or read the replies to any of the accusations made publicly by investment writers'

I really do not think Sinclair is as corrupt as the U.S. government (Social Security, T-bond market, etc), or many other true Ponzi's currently being run around the world.

Doesn't matter what you think and it's not a proper analogy. If you are going to call me on the carpet, I'd ask that you uphold the same standard for which you are asking me.

Investors do due diligence before they invest, and nobody here has invested in the US government (unless they own treasuries) Secondly, are you referring to the legal definition of a ponzi scheme? Are you aware of what it is to have a view on it?

In fact, I sincerely doubt he runs a Ponzi at all.

(based on??) or you simply don't have any idea one way or the other?

He does run a gold mine, though. And to me, unless you own substantial phyzz already, miner shares are not the best way to invest for the future. MHO.

I won't take your opinion as investment advice.

For your benefit, I will change my statement regarding the mine in question.

There are substantial allegations by a public financial website that Tanzanian royalty doesn't represent a good investment for all the said reasons contained in the series of articles. In my reading the allegations do not reach the level of being a legal ponzi scheme because the company issuing stock would have to make a promise of no or little risk according to general legal definitions of a ponzi. To my knowledge, no junior mine makes that promise. Junior mines are highly speculative investments. The stated allegations of misrepresenting material facts by the writers might not reach the legal definition of a ponzi. I would suggest that a person trained in law would be able to give an informed legal opinion

I encourage you to research the allegations before giving any opinion that's soley based off a few comments that you read by two individuals playing a little game. I'd also encourage you at least to read the original comments and the context it was made and in response to other defamatory allegations.

If you are unable to locate this website and the numerous articles over the years, I will be happy to provide it. I'd be interested to know what you searched that you couldn't find comments on both sides of this case or if it was just a matter of not taking the time to seek out the information before forming an opinion.

Secondly, I acknowledge that I've been the recipient of heresy that came from multiple high profile geologists in the PM sector who will not publicly comment on this property or recommend it to their customers/clients/readers based upon their first hand knowledge. Therefore that is hearsay, and therefore I am not at liberty to answr the repeated requests and hounding by sengfarmer. I did not inspect the mines but I've read all their documents and forms declaring the possibities and risks and non-disclosures promised to date. I am sure it's investors are eagerly awaiting feasibility studies and would be happy to publish them for the record once they are published.

I understand they have declared themselves a producer or that a second party has declared them a producer, however, I've seen no verification of that or any mention as to who has declared them a producer other than they have said it's so? Heresy, is not factual, but the documents, press releases issued by the mine must be in accordance with US federal law and the SEC. To date, I've not seen any independent verification. If you don't trust government would that include the SEC?

I cannot assume they are true or false without second party verification. If you have not read any of the companies documents how would you know either way whether way to even want to share your inclination to the entire forum? And if you have indeed read them how would you know either way without some verification of the material risks involved in the property?

Lastly, ancient money, you didn't give your opinion on the four statements made in reference to the general market. Do you take them as true, false or do you have any opinion on them that you are willing or unwilling to give an opinion on the track record?

Or are you presenting an opinion on a short run disagreement (you mischaracterized that too) that was posted by the parties? And why would you do that?

The last statements I posted regarding predictions of the gold market are factual based upon what has been published here and other websites. I was here when the gold banks were declared broke and so were many of you. Would you consider the ability of management to accurately predict the performance of gold as a pre-requisite in determining whether or not management is strong because mining investors know that veracity and track record of management is primary to assessing the future returns of any investment in this sector.So ancient money you wanted to give us an informed opinion or just feelings? a rebuttle? Just add fuel to the fire?

I'd now ask you to go back to my original statement and read in the context in which I wrote it which was in response to defamatory accusations.

So here is my revised statement in summary:

The statements I have passed along were written by other financial analysts and published on the internet in which management was aware of and was asked to give comment. The writer asserts that no comment to the accusations were ever given other than we will not comment on such statements. I am paraphrasing the statements in the articles.

The accusations, serious indeed, are that the property has been accused of not accurately representing it's true value and the writers bluntly told readers that it was not a recommended buy. Also, the writer articulated a stock scheme on how the retail investor was hurt by placement. The writer has stated that management has refused to comment on the allegations. If you would like the articles, please PM me and I will provide you with all the articles published and then you are free to post the responses by management if you truly desire an informed look and are interested in posting a balanced view of that airs both sides of the argument. At that time, I'd welcome your opinion on the validity of the claims.

Secondly, I have been the recipient of information that has echoed some of these statements from experts in the field of junior mining investment. Therfore, any statement from these experts would be Heresy. I can share the information on that basis and would do so privately and public. The information is sufficent enough for me to have no interest in this investment.

You are responsible for your own due diligence and are at liberty to contact any major broker of junior mines and receive advice on what properties to purchase or sell in your portfolio and ask for reasons why you might want to hold or sell the aforementioned property. You are free to share that information with the public as I've been asked to unless you consider your relationship with your broker a sacred covenant and it is said to you not to repeat the conversation.

So based on the track record of predictions by management on public record and the articles published on certain financial sites, I've concluded that this is not a suitable investment for my portfolio.

My hypothesis based on lack of material evidence presented by those who hold the mine is that many were unduly influenced by management high profile public status. I do not know any reason why people do anything so therefore I can only speculate. But based on previous advice and information given by these parties, I'd conclude that taking advice from them would put one at risk. That is my opinion.

Lastly, the issue of price that was raised as a defense that all miners were hit hard. I am unaware of any investment strategy that equates price to future value and discerning good investments and bad investments by looking at the total behavior of a sector is impossible. Tulips were once priced high.

Ancient Money, do you have any questions that I can answer or anything I've written unclear?

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