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Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 3:52am
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I accept everybodies

I accept everybodies anecdotal evidence as being accurate. Road observations and so on.

I accept the notion that the polls are rigged. I posted a video of a guy a couple of weeks ago showing that Trump was in the lead.

I have not taken a survey of all the polls and compared them.

However, I do not accept Alex Jones as a neutral, unemotional party that is in the business of truth. But I would agree he is a good actor for a grade B movie.

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That being the case, I do see alot of people and a reporter yelling, wow, wow, wow. They are so mad at the MSM.

Ok.....

The thing about social media is that I can travel across the country, into the deep south and back to NY within a few minutes. People in NY have a way of making friends believe it or not. So I see the unadulterated, she can do no wrong Hillary supporters. My contingent in Mississippi agree with my perceptions, it's all bullshit, and a handful of 'conservatives' as they call themselves who support Trump because Hillary's social programs are socialism. (and that resonates with my views on democratic policies)

So let's see if Mr. Dilbert has any thoughts on polls.

This is from two months ago but that's useful because we can see if his calls two months ago were accurate.

https://blog.dilbert.com/post/148949796271/polls-and-the-bs-detector

You should feel free to click on the link and read his comments in context but his summary:

But since all polls show Trump behind, and it is deeply unlikely that all polls are rigged, my best guess is that only the outlier polls are rigged, or at least inaccurate. Trump is probably down, but not as much as poll averages suggest.

So he see's the same distortions that all of you are pointing out, yet he makes different conclusions. See how that works? He clearly seems like a neutral party so soley based on how well he has stayed neutral, that lends alot of credence to his arguement.

But I see the extrapolation of all our observations as guess's how signs, and large crowds translates into votes.

So if you're brain is now saying " GL wake up. It's clear that Trump is in the lead. Can't you see the obvious" NO. I can only see you extrapolating two unrelated pieces of information but I see how you make your conclusions.

So let's look at his thesis on how things could change radically from two months ago and see what has transpired.

1. New Clinton health issue or revelation (I didn't see anything new since the Clif High video and the body double scandal. I thought Caroline Austin Fitts revelation of the body double scandal being a cover up for trillions of dollars going missing and Fix's video explained that nicely and Hillary has been looking pretty good on all her television appearances with no twitches including the Ellen show.)

2. New Wikileak that is more damaging than what we have seen. (From what I've seen. Not much to change the minds of the people. And Adams take, that Hillary supporters don't care and the revelations don't target Hillary as much as the people around her seems accurate. No change)

3. New Clinton Foundation revelations worse than what we have seen. (I'm waiting for this because the last thing I read is pretty scary. Take down the Clinton Foundation and Washington falls because the Clinton Foundation is so corrupt that the email scandal is a cover for even deeper fraud's that includes the Justice Department, democrats and republican. This is from some deep throat source so I won't post because it's rumor. A juicey rumor. And I suscpect the mysterious Clinton deaths which resmemble JP Morgan employee deaths could very well be a cover for a much deeper financial scandal than just the Clinton Foundation. But to date, status quo)

4. Trump makes an uncharacteristically empathetic speech that shows he can take advice, is not irrational, and that he loves all Americans. (Sex scandals knocks this one out)

5. The Shy Trump Supporter is really a monster size. (That's what I'm asking you guys to show me)

6. Godzilla changes sides. (That happened. He is now in Hillaries camp. And since he might be one of the best persuasion artists in the country. That goes to Hillaries credit that she is persuading more people to her side than Trump is to his)

7. I take sides. (I already mentioned Scott Adams being a deciding factor in the outcome of the election. But I said that he would have helped Hillary more than Trump by simply bring public awareness to the situation and getting Hillary onboard with the same tactics. Nobody took on my assertion so I'll keep it as plausible)

8. A major terror event. (nope)

9. Trump outperforms expectations in the debates (especially the first one).

(He sucked in the first one, and while most people said he won the second one, the aftermath is Trump is a stalker. Even a major motion picture soundtrack writer, first call, top tier guy wrote a sound track for Trumps stalking. He does a lot of horror soundtracks. It's pretty compelling. I'd put it as a credit to Hillaries camp)

https://deadline.com/2016/10/danny-elfman-trump-stalks-hillary-video-1201837083/

And I'll throw in Armstrong posting a fake article although I don't think he did it intentionally. I think he is subject to conscensus bias too, just as I was by posting it. Just as you have been Mr. Fix by posting two different conclusions in the same post.

This all speaks to the power of distortion that we are all dealing with and we are all subject to be the effect of these fields although our minds reject it.

I think somebody who has such deep skill like Armstrong and can be taken by something like that is more of a testament to the power forces floating around trying to convince us that the election is fixed. And I think that is a credit to Trump who keeps on saying it.

And that's where the argument loses some credibility when you have seen Adams analysis that most of Trumps proposals are not to be taken literally.

Anyway, I could jump on board the Trump is winning train, but it will take rationale that's more compelling than the extrapolations (largely unrelated, crowds and bumber stickers translate to votes logic) and an Alex Jones reporter going wow, wow, wow..

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 4:11am
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I'm reposting Richard

I'm reposting Richard Bandler. He is the modern day Godfather of Persuasion Engineering. A student of Erickson.

If you really want to learn the art of persuasion or even better, the art of using linguistics to make congitive changes in your own behavior, he is the man.

He is a genius. An out and out genius. If you don't believe me, pick up one of his books. It's not kindergarten stuff. It's a highly advanced treastise on language and it's effects on the human psyche. The average person won't get past the front cover. Just saying.

Here he is talking about Yogurt cultures. Imagine yourself as part of a Yogurt culture and all voters are Yogurt. It's not very far from the truth. We all pick up stuff through sympathetic resonance and it clouds our rationale thinking process. ALL OF US.

If you read Scott's books, he admits it happens to him. I've seen it happen to me numerous times in the last year just being on this forum. You use total rational thinking to come to a conclusion, you wake up the next day and you have changed your mind. I conclude it happens to everybody. The difference is that when Scott Adams goes to buy a car, he realizes it at some point. It happens to everybody and thus I conclude that we are all victims of the effect of highly effective occult technigues because even if you are not in resonance with somebodies political idea's, I can guarantee even if you ardent Trump supporters were to go to the DNC convention you would be the effect of sympathetic resoance because when I rewatch some of the speeches, I can feel it coming into me and my guess is that if it could happen to me, somebody who acknowledges HLC criminal tendencies, it will happen to somebody who rejects this stuff even more powerfully.

Richard Bandler Talks about The Yougurt Experiment
Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 4:14am
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nobody wins?

The silent majority are going to vote for Donald. All those people who are keeping a low profile, but know they have been screwed will save the day.

The politically correct collective is running out of punters to sucker into there comfort zone.

The Hillary option is unthinkable.

Putin will nuke the U.S. if Hillary becomes President.

The big problem is that even if the U.S. wins the war they lose.

The war cannot be won. The bankers save face temporarily but everyone loses.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 4:37am
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Richard Bandler

Dodgy looking character looks like he ate most of the yohgurt.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 4:58am
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In the groove with G.L. and big daddy

will.i.am ft Apl.de.ap and Liane V - GRAB'm by the PU$$Y (Official Music Video)

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 9:39am
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There is a story here and

There is a story here and relates to attendance. I'm sure you can write the story in different ways. I'll leave it up to you.

https://www.willhillarywin.com/hillary-clintons-events/

https://blog.4president.us/2016/donald-trump/

https://www.earnthenecklace.com/donald-trump-campaign-schedule-dates-and...

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 9:43am atarangi
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ata wrote: Dodgy looking

ata wrote:

Dodgy looking character looks like he ate most of the yohgurt.

He also probably stole everybodies wallet in the room with their consent.

He is known for his voracious appetite including illicit substances. So was Freud.

Sun, Oct 16, 2016 - 11:34am
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The theater of the absurd is a smokescreen...

First off,

I consider the politicians we discuss here to be mere lower level, middle management with no genuine power.

They are analogous to the street thugs in an organized crime syndicate who's primary purpose is to rally the troops,

and deflect attention from those higher up the food chain, and give plausible deniability to those who actually have the strings to pull.

I consider the election to be a manifestation of a PowerPlay by lower level thugs, that is permitted by the true leadership to provide the proper cover for the real goings-on behind the scenes.

Either way, America loses, because it reinforces the quaint notion that their votes matter. They don't.

It also reinforces the perceived validity of a government comprised solely of pathological liars, power-hungry psychopaths, malevolent self-serving parasites, who institute crimes against humanity for fun and profit.

To say that we would be better off without them, all of them, is an understatement of epic proportions.

The belief that they are somehow necessary, or required, is by far the biggest lie ever told to mankind, in my humble opinion.

The only thing that I find to be a positive in this particular political cycle, is the demonstrably widespread damage being inflicted on what was once presumably authoritative sources, and a general shift in consciousness amongst the populace as to just how incredibly corrupt all of the people, as well as the process itself actually is.

The notion that Donald Trump is going to save the day is absurd, on too many levels do enumerate.

Even on a slim chance that Trump genuinely wants to restore law and order within the beltway,

I would consider Mike Pence his death warrant, giving The Donald a presumed lifespan that could be measured in milliseconds if a successful transfer of presidential authority is ever allowed to transpire.

So I'm focusing on the higher levels of the deep state, the warring factions behind the scenes, that can surely have a determinative effect on humanity.

It starts with stories like these. https://www.rt.com/viral/362272-podesta-emails-aliens-vatican/

The real determinative factor is not the presidential elections.

It is disclosure.

Presidents don't change anything, but exposing the populace of earth to the truth would change everything.

There are no political solutions to the dilemma facing humanity, the very perceived legitimacy of authority figures absolutely must be relegated to the dustbin of history.

Humanity is at a crossroads, if the Darkside wins, humanities enslavement is insured for many generations to come. It could conceivably be permanent, considering the high technology and occult mind control practices being waged against us.

If however people do start exploring what's wrong with this picture, exposing the entire illusion that men having authority over other men has any legitimacy whatsoever, then genuine human progress can begin to unfold.

So I watch, as I share my perspective on things, to those still capable of conscious awareness.

I just thought I would share my perspective on exactly what it is I am looking for.

I'll grant you, I am heavily biased, I don't have now, nor have never had any respect for those who presume to have authority over me, or anyone else.

I consider the entire concept of authority figures, and those who feel obligated to follow their orders, to be the epitome of evil on our planet.

Fuck authority, govern yourself.

It's the only thing that can actually make a difference.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Great awakenings needed!

Second off:

We have gone down a pathway that will destroy us. It really does not matter who wins the WH for our time of tribulation is right around the bend. Yes, Mr. Trump has helped to awaken the middle class as to the corruption within the political arena.

I also have other daydreams for great awakenings: For some to rise up like ag1969, who will continue to expose the same level of corruption within the medical and pill pusher arena. From radiation and chemo, to out of control prices for even looking at a hospital stay. At the same time, free everything for those who may not want to work and for those swimming on shore. Oh for a national movement to redirect our thinking while protecting grandma and her savings. Which brings up the banksters. For those to rise up, who would restore some faith in the banking system (will not happen). Yes a dream and a hope. Yes Mr. Fix, and my Hope for true prophets of the Lord (not the ones who are current dreamers), that would bring "restoration" to the days of the early Church. An 'awakening", the exposing of the corruption within the steeple house systems, the pray for pay false prophets, along with the lack of holiness within much of the so called "clergy", (no laymen or clergy in the NT era). This day will come upon mankind as it is written.

Even an awakening of the truth in education would be wonderful. The truth about going to college, the costs and the lack of employment after graduation would be an eye opener for many. Who will listen? jmo Jim

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And slowly, they awaken.

I got to spend a lot of time with Little Fix over the past week, and became aware of what could only be described as a thriving subculture amongst her peers. In their conversation, their music, and their desires for the future, they are working together to support each other, in their quest for liberty.

Many of them see the illusion, the corruption built into the system, and speak openly of ways to circumvent the hierarchical power structure present on our planet.

Individual freedom is hardwired into the human psyche, and without virtually perpetual indoctrination starting at birth, and proceeding through higher education, human beings will naturally work to preserve their own liberty.

Many of them simply refuse to participate in the current system. Although their percentages are small, their clarity is absolute.

These kinds of people simply do not make the news anywhere, in either the mainstream, or the alternative press. But they are there.

On the other end of the spectrum, the entrenched power structure is being undermined in broad daylight.

So I am faced with a deluge of antidotal evidence that supports the basic premise that people are awakening in mass.

Regardless of the outcome of this occult practice (elections) many consider "their birthright", great damage is being inflicted upon the power structure's ability to maintain the illusion of legitimacy.

Truth spreads quickly, once it has been exposed.

I find it interesting that many statists are waking up to the fact that their entire outlook on life is a complete fraud. Those who have studied anarchism, or voluntaryism, once exposed to it, never return to loyalty to the dark side. (The state). So I've maintained my basic premise, that humanity is basically hardwired to be good, and that too get such people to commit truly evil deeds requires blind faith in a religion such as statism, or loyalty to an imaginary sky daddy hellbent on human domination.

Jim,

We agree wholeheartedly on how humanity would benefit if they returned to what was the early Christian church, but I still perceive minor disagreements in what exactly constitutes such a belief system.

Regardless, I do agree it would be an overwhelming step in the right direction.

Democracy as a construct simply instills the right of approximately 51% to rule by force over the other 49%. There is nothing voluntary about it, and these are the choices that we have been given.

So we are being given a choice to be ruled by a tyrannical array of alphabet agencies, on one side, while our only other choice, is to submit to a military dictatorship, or an overpowering police state.

I wholeheartedly reject this as our only options.

Human beings are designed by the creative force of this universe. They are part of this creative force, and are designed to function with individual autonomy. Anything that interferes with this basic truth, violates natural laws, and perpetuates human enslavement.

A vote for individual liberty will never be offered, and must be acknowledged and defended by the majority of individuals that comprise the human family. Without that simple dynamic, nothing changes.

With it, everything changes.

I've got to go fix a flooded boiler room, hot water pouring out of the ceiling, and a bit of water damage for a long term loyal customer. It should keep me busy for the next few hours.

I haven't actually gone forth, and fixed anything in the past couple of weeks.

It's time to get back to business.

Have a nice day.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Your Consciousness and Their Arrests

Your Consciousness and Their Arrests

Op-ed by Exopolitics

Do you know that YOUR consciousness is millions of times stronger than the nuclear force?

So, why the hell aren’t you using it right now to bring on the arrests of the psychopathic criminals destroying our world?

Why aren’t we all?

It’s not hard. In fact it’s merely dependent on our imagining those arrests in as much detail as possible and having the feelings that generates in us.

And what would those feelings be? For most of us, we’d feel unbelievable joy!

How To Change Reality Through A Special Kind of Prayer

Once you really understand that consciousness is what creates our reality, you’ll understand why the psychopaths are flooding us in every form possible of miserable images and words and music the world they dream of – with our doom, financially, environmentally, personally. The more details of that doom – through movies so we see it, through TV so we are bombarded with horrors and crimes and injustice all day, and through video games so we even participate in it – the better.

They are using the astounding power of your imagination and feelings (the two combined are the key) to create a huge force to generate the world THEY want. And you are the clueless engine of your own destruction, you nincompoop.

They’ve got your consciousness by the balls.

But then again, it ain’t just you. We all are participating in the insanity they have crafted for us, and lending them our emotional force to make it happen.

Well, damn. I mean, damn. That’s like burning down our house to please an arsonist.

Why don’t we get the picture and cut out being useful fools? We have this astronomically powerful thing about us – our consciousness – being used against us and we can just take it the hell back.

Forget the endless sordid, heartbreaking or enraging dramas they keep serving us to keep our consciousness and emotion focused right where they want. Is Hillary sick? A clone? Will Trump’s toupee fall off? Will Obama do more stuff that’s the exact opposite of what he says? Will money inflate, disappear, collapse, be stolen, and end up on Mars?

Screw it. Stay in their story line and we can’t stop them because we make the story go.

Instead, we can just say “Kiss Off, you Satanic jerks,” and start using our consciousness in the millions to help make real what we all, in every part of the world, actually dream of – imprisoning the nuts who are wrecking our world. And – as Gregg Braden says in the first video in the link above … what the universe needs to feel from us is our joy that those arrests have already happened.

There are lots of things we could imagine but arrests of criminals would probably please billions tremendously. And we don’t even have to get specific around what categories of crimes or who did them. Just imagine arrests happening and enjoy yourself tremendously, because it is your feelings – your joy – that puts this huge energy out into the field and raises the vibration so high that the Satanic Schmucks can’t stand it. They need the low vibrations of fear and hatred and greed and terror to function. They feed off those feelings, and terror is their special dessert.

So, how about starve them of dinner? How about we feel our own intense joy and fill the consciousness field we all share field with enormously high vibrations and let’s be done with them. Swamp the field with joy they can’t bear.

https://www.newparadigm.ws/articles/your-consciousness-and-their-arrests/

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Thank you, SilveryBlue!

Thank you, SilveryBlue!

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SilveryBlue wrote: Pre war

SilveryBlue wrote:

Pre war checklist:
A) Hillary is leaving the public light for 20 days. Right before an election. HMMMMM . . . . the inexplicable explained.

So where exactly is Hillary off to for the next 3 weeks?

Okay, I haven't heard anyone talking about Hillary taking nearly 3 weeks off from campaigning. That sounds implausible. If true, it does make the war drums beat louder. When will our country come to its senses??

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Green Lantern

Green Lantern wrote:
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What would it say about the morality of using persuasion techniques?

It is 100% a violation of a person’s sovereignty. It is 100% a violation of the spiritual laws that I have spent investigating for over 30 years.

Words are the primary mode in which you keep people in slavery. Other than with numbers and symbols.

Any attempt to interfere in a persons free will either through subtle tweaking of words to elicit emotional responses, like in a lot of advertising, to implant messages and thought forms in the unconscious or any occult or psychic technique which seeks to manipulate a persons actions unless they are going to act against another person is no different than what a Christian see’s when somebody overtly violates one of the ten commandments.

I agree with this. I asked this question because I am intrigued by Godzilla's course. His website offers a program which claims t0 improve performance "by deploying ethical influence strategies." If it is ethical, would it be moral? I guess I don't understand this stuff well enough to be able to draw a line. If I learn techniques that improve myself/life -- terrific! but if I'm learning techniques to be able to better manipulate others to get what I want, I'm not sure I'd then be acting any differently than a charming sociopath.

Thank you for your full reply. I need to think more about the other issues raised in the remaining part of your post. I have thought about who should have the right to vote if I started my own country, but I found problems with every scenario I came up with.

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He gives, and he takes away. 

He gives, and he takes away. I'm getting interrupted so I can't give a thoughtful reply just yet.

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"Leave town or die": R hdqtrs in NC firebombed

(Hitler did the same thing to his opponents' offices prior to his election.)

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article108627627.html

Hillsborough police along with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were continuing to investigate.

Dallas Woodhouse, executive director of state GOP, called the bombing “political terrorism.”

“The office itself is a total loss,” he said. “The only thing important to us is that nobody was killed, and they very well could have been.”

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Mr. Fix wrote:I consider the

Mr. Fix wrote:

I consider the politicians we discuss here to be mere lower level, middle management with no genuine power.

Exactly. That's the important point when you look at who is attacking him. They represent the establishments employee's. If the top dogs didn't want him at the top of the republican party, he wouldn't be there. Unless you believe he has single handledly already taken down the establishment or by passed their leverage.

So who is fixing the votes? The 13 billionaires on his team? or the employees like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney?

I still haven't heard anybody tell me one policy that represents or threatens the establishment.

His tax plan?? I can show you how the money is gonna get to the banksters. His views on the Muslim refugee's. I don't think so. Even Clinton democrats have voiced concerned about the refugee's and most of the republicans don't want them. Aren't they establishment? Vaccines, 9-11, etc...

You really need to sit down with Clinton voters. I had dinner with 6 of them and kept my mouth shut until the end of the dinner. None of what we talk about here is relevant to them. NONE OF IT. There are thousands or millions just like them. They mock the James Comey's acknowledgement of her negligence. Wikileaks doesn't register. It may be useful for you to get to the truth, but it's useless as a persuasion tool.

Second, if you think that all the polls are rigged, than you negate Hillaries persuasion advisor aka Godzilla. I expect that because when I first posted Scott Adams some of you didn't think it was relevant or powerful enough to make a difference. That's ok. But than you have to dismiss his call that HIllary has already won the campaign and you still have hope that Trump will win. And maybe that's so but there are two glaring problems with that.

1>) He was attacked by Hillary supporters and had to close his blog down and use skill to get them off his back.

2) When he asked for Hillary supporters to send him clips of HIllary supporters attacking Trump supporters. His posts were censored 'shadowbanned' Somebody at DNC is watching. That makes him important. And he believes that if he were to start tweaking his readers, he could influence the outcome. If that is the case, it all can't be rigged if persuasion and rheteric can make a difference. But you now have to decide how powerful is this language game.

Both would lead me to believe that somebody is paying very close attention to him on both sides. Enough so they are willing to dick with him , censor him and threaten him.

If persuasion wasn't important, why would they do that. And if it's all 'fixed' including the polls why bother censoring the man when you can just fix the vote and the polls?

Lastly, if you bothered to read the links comparing Trump events to Hillary events, you found a world of difference.

Hillary has sceduled small events in small venue's that are geared to fundraisers. That mean's rich people who are influential give a 1000 per plate to hear her speak. Could that be the reason you don't see film of 10,000 screaming people raising their middle finger? It's an entirely different approach. Trump is trying to fill stadiums with some people who might not even have a job. Hillary is raising money. DIFFERENCE!

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