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AGXIIK: Plastic straws

I understand the plan is to replace plastic straws with the old fashioned paper straws, (remember the old days when milk came in reusable glass bottles that were sterillized back at the dairy?). It does seem much like a poster child though, since the straws represent a fraction of the plastic we dump. The worst offender seems to be the plastic thingy we use to transport six packs. In a marine environment it can trap the snouts of marine mammals and cause starvation.

If the politicians really wanted a solution they would mandate biodegradable plastics. But then maybe the role of our entire evolution was so the Earth could have plastic. wink

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Sun, Jul 29, 2018 - 3:46am
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Apps...

No biggie, I don't really like them either.

The Internet is turning into the AppNet to lock you in/out.

Try this - https://tarjaturunen.com/home-tarja/

She just released a live album and her fans (me) are a little "geeked out".

Interesting music.

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Broadway ;-)

She did cover Phantom of the Opera with her old band a few times.

Yeah, like anything you need to try a few. She goes from straight opera, to heavy metal to Xmas songs.

Try here... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfLNKgCSZf6kv6Kpyt0dB2syGaQy_ZwoK

Some songs I like are "Demons in You", "Innocence", and she nails the high notes in "Supremacy". 

Another band I think you might like? Check out "Halestorm".

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Oh those guys...

;-) Hmmm, name's familiar, ran through some songs... Ohhh those guys! (brain fart?)

Yeah, good stuff, radio played them a lot.

Not real big on lyrics, can't understand half the time anyway. If it sounds good and makes you move or something, I'll like it.

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Steiner, Ouspensky, Gurdjieff poppped up on YT this morning!

It is interesting how the different lines of enquiry tend to end up drawing in the same sources and often arriving at some of the same conclusions.

Well today this video appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YI6anFA9w0

It is very relevant to what DOTS puzzles over. For example what is reported just after 11.45 and between 16:00 and 20:00 should grab your attention. They were looking at waking dreamstates of people in their lives.

The knowledge of this has evolved into hypnotism in one field, mind control in another field, but the average people have not had much added to their collective understanding of any of this. We really do need to know a lot, a large amount, more about this subject and how we ourselves really function.

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I listened to the first 20

I listened to the first 20 minutes of Dark Journalist, and then I randomly picked different segments to see if anything resonated with me. I can't say I resonate with Dark Journalists way of a delivering a narrative. He seems to meander, in my mind, and I find myself a bit impatient wondering, so what's your point? And then I see the hundreds of comments on that little screen to the right of people asking questions and making comments, usually a large % irrelevant, (so a little distracting) similar to Scott Adams periscopes where these rolling comments by the peanut gallery are constantly made and on occasion they take a question from it. 

Anyway, my take away is "What point is he trying to make relative to the content of DOTS?" 

You used a phrase "waking dreamstates" In the context of what Dark Jounralist is saying, I hear something more akin to "

A book that I've referenced on previous occasions. So not being absolutely clear on the message here, I won't comment.

But I will comment on what I call "waking dreams" more akin to the Jungian idea of a "waking dream" which is actually not my source of knowledge on this subject but he is simply the most popular figure in modern history that discussed this phenomena. 

A waking dream is something that happens in the outer, everyday life that has spiritual significance.

This is different from hypnotic states or trances since we all live in an enduring, non-broken trance state. Of course, nobody will likely admit to it.

It is the waking dream if recognized cuts through the human consciousness, our programming, our daily narcoleptic sonmulence to be able to recieve insight and understanding of the events that we are all watching. Most of us receive waking dreams on a personal level everyday. But the things we discuss here are obviously relevant to the world. 

Sometime back I posted the event of an eagle landing on the left shoulder of the pitcher for the Seattle Mariners.

The first reaction from some was to look at the narrative. HOW, it happened to rebuke the notion that a moment in time can have symbolic value. I also offered some numerology surrounding baseball and actually if you go back to the event you'll find even more relative to that day.

This is an ancient symbol where a master has an eagle perched on his left shoulder.

But it appears throughout many religious traditions too.

The imagery is found throughout the bible.

A prophet in the Bible is a eagle. He goes higher than other birds, and he can see way off, things coming

You will find the symbol in other traditions to.

It's a different sort of symbol that what we were talking about

It is usually very subtle. Requires keen sense of observation how even small events have a deeper significance than most people realize or will ever realize.

So now, I take my commentary on the wildfires. I am not talking about cycles. I am not even talking about astrological transits that are occurring. Because in this case, the astrological transits are too small of a window. Most good astrologists see the transits, and some looking at analogs from the past but none of that opens even a larger window and yes, much more esoteric. That events that are occurring in the world are part of a ripple. A wave that is going out but the origin or causality, if you wish, can't be seen because it's like an invisible threat leading to very hidden dimensions of what's going on well beyond the political landscapes.

Two stories to highlight how waking dreams occur in very subtle ways. While this isn't the topic I hear Dark Journalist discussing, my response is only intend to clarify what I am talking about and to demonstrate how subtle these images can be and how the meaning is hidden under the noise of everyday life and the monkeys in our minds. Trance states is a totally different subject. 

Recently, for the first time in my fifteen years as a building contractor, I got a paper cut from a set of plans I was working with. It barely caught my attention until it happened again, not just twice, but three times.

One of the ways the universe speaks to us is through the little events of daily life, but we have to pay attention. These experiences are known as waking dreams. When I pay attention, it doesn't take three tries to reach me, but when I'm busy or under stress, sometimes Spirit has to keep trying.

After mulling over the repeated paper cuts, I recognized that they were telling me to cut my bid for the job I was bidding on. My price is already as low as I can go! I argued to myself. But the nudge persisted. I decided to ask within to show me how to lower the bid—and still stay in business!

That evening, I did a spiritual exercise before drifting off to sleep. I silently asked how I could lower this bid.

That night I dreamed that my foreman was working on a job. I noticed he was doing all the work himself, so I pitched in to help him. When I awoke and wrote the dream in my dream journal, I realized I had received my answer. I could perform some of the manual labor myself. This would allow me to lower the bid. I did this, and we got the job.

I've been a student of dreams in for over two years now. This experience demonstrated to me in a very real way how guidance come to us in both the waking and sleeping states to help us smooth out the rough spots of life.

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I was driving along the highway, feeling frustrated and agitated about an issue that had come up between me and a colleague. Before I knew it, I was having angry thoughts and negative energy was slowly building up within. Just as this was happening, my thoughts were disrupted by a sharp sound of a very tiny object that flew out of nowhere and hit the front windscreen. It was as if I received a small jolt from the sound energy. I knew right away that it was a quick reminder to watch my negative train of thoughts before they caused me spiritual harm. So I let the angry thoughts go.

Later that evening, the negative thoughts came back a second time as I was driving to dinner with a couple of colleagues. I aired my frustrations to them and they mentioned having similar experiences. As we neared the restaurant, I noticed that the place was about ready to close. There was an empty parking space right in front of the restaurant, so I stopped behind a parked vehicle, and without getting out, I asked a restaurant staff if we could eat there. While engaged in conversation, I didn’t realize the car was slowly moving forward. Even though my foot was on the brake pedal, I wasn’t pressing hard on it. I then heard a ‘thump’ and a scratching sound as the front bumper of my car made contact with the rear bumper of a parked van. Thankfully the plastic front bumper was only dislodged slightly and I was able to push it back into place. Through this incident I received a second warning that I was heading for a collision (spiritual harm) by reviving the negative train of thoughts from the day.

That night I sat down and wrote in my dream journal, to surrender my anger and frustrations. I also asked to be shown the reason behind my experience in the dream state. However, when I got up the next day, I didn’t have any dream recollection. So I added the phrase, ‘Thy will be done’ to the note that I had written to the Inner Master the night before.

I then left the house to get some breakfast and came back an hour later. I reached into my pocket for the door key. To my surprise, the spare key that is usually left hanging by the front door, was in my pocket. I remembered using it to open the lock when I left home that morning. But instead of leaving it by the front door, I had absentmindedly put it into my pocket. There was a key chain attached to the key and the message on it read, “Life is like an ice cream. Enjoy it before it melts.” Yes, spirit, was speaking again through a third waking dream to give a ‘key’ insight to help me let go the anger and frustration.

As I contemplated on these waking dreams, I could see how the negative power was using my mind to trap and get me into trouble. Perhaps a more important realization was the subtle message , that if I were to focus on negativity, I stand to lose a precious opportunity to enjoy the gifts that life brings to me. 

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Ruffian,  I can’t answer to

Ruffian, I can’t answer to all that. It’s like you are reading Fear Magazine. You have definitely found a group that is likely not representative of the world, that is, mainly American. The group is focussing on certain news, and not other news. Why is that?

Some of what you posted is somewhat true but it has been dipped so far in politics that it stinks. Example, “IED attack on a restaurant”. Ok this is happening in Canada, where a home made bomb is a home made bomb, calling it an IED pulls in all kinds of images. I don’t buy the agenda of whoever that group is.

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The interesting part of the Dark video, the first 20 minutes

caught my interest and in a bit of parallel to your comment GL, about waking dreams and how the Universe reminds us to wake up, pay attention and see things from a slightly to completely different angle, it occurred to me that we are living in a human version Bee Colony Collapse paradigm. 

If bees and their keepers are the holders of higher spiritual, super natural, technological knowledge, that makes sense since honey was a rare thing in past millennia. Anything that rare and even rarer those people who handle bees magically, without being stung etc, then I see a very direct, almost to an extreme correlation to BCC and what we are experiencing today which is the loss of knowledge as well as being denied access to superior technology, some of which has been withheld for hundreds of generations. Simply put, We wuz robbed!

We are bathed in tech and electromagnetic energy every second of the day We're immersed in a vast wasteland of Facebook, Instagram and Twitter where we have information on everything yet end up knowing nothing, lacking the wisdom to parse the overwhelming feed of noxious toxic data, able to see, in the context of our own minds, what all this junk information actually means. It means nothing.

 99% of the people are plugging into the what some say is the hive mind of the information singularity, when the reality of the situation is that we're being dumbed down year over year as the singularity of knowledge is nothing but a compost heap. Surrounded by tech and information, we end up knowing nothing. 

Thus we, the great generality of humanity, are little more than permanent residents on Silicon Valley's version of the Yellow Bus, on a global level.

 We are the equivalent of a Bee Colony Collapse but a different type. The collapse is our minds overwhelmed by data feed. Our minds grow weaker and less able to survive the real world, even if the real world is our dream state. We're utterly captured in this HU-man Mental Colony Collapse, and just as the bees find themselves in a similar situation, quite possibly caused by the same EMR that fries our minds, we also collapse. Interesting enough, humans, bees and termites share a few similarities including building giant colonies encased in concrete, wood or mud. We are lead by the queen of the colony, obeying all traditions and behaviors necessary for survival of the hive. We're told to obey in order to survive or we will DIE. 

That said, I contend we are on our own. On Our Own. ON OUR OWN!

In the vast welter of conversations, emails, twitter messages, and the other media that allows us to communicate, we end up saying nothing, hearing nothing and understanding nothing, ending up as little more than A tiny piece of the wet ware connected by EMR to the internet mind singularity. 

This paradigm is not our friend. It tells us it is, like Big Brother repeating his soporific mantras, but it is not working to our best interest. Thus the extraordinary importance of paying attention, hearing, seeing, smelling and feeling (tactile) messages that arrived a from vast invisible universe, coming to us in subtle and gross ways. 

If our ground of being is good, the massages are slight nudges. If we not, then the messages come hard and fast. Some come like your paper cuts, or a pebble that hits the windshield, or a call from wise friend you've not talked to for years, someone who just 'happens' to call you at the right time. That call comes like a megaphone blast in your ear if you are ready to hear it.

It gives me chills to even mention that because for 20 years I ran 8000 minutes a month on my business cell phone. During that time I was constantly receiving messages from people who gave me a slight nudge in the right direction. These nudges are the things that help us connect to real knowledge and wisdom, not the fake stuff that swirls around our ankles 24/7. These messages remind us to live a life of appropriateness, as Paul Larson repeated ad infinitum in his workshops. A person who walks the purposeful life of appropriateness, they will succeed in ways unimaginable to they until they being to imagine it. That's the power of the Universe.

If a person wants to survive the BCC of his or her mind, it's vital ( ''vital" speaks to life), to accept those subtle touches from the universe that helps with focus, to see revealed knowledge and move in a direction that's more apropos for their place in the universe.

The BCC is also emblematic of the hiding of real wisdom and technology that could and would transform us and the world. It's in the interest of those who want to keep us in their version of the waking dream state, something more akin to a drug induced coma. If we really want to escape the Matrix that John Rappoport talks about we need to understand that we are on out own.

I also believe that Zuck of FB, the drones at twitter, google and the others who's intention it is to enslave our minds with their electronic junk are now scared for their lives. When Faciabook drops $150 billion overnight, Twitter by 30%, and the fabulously overvalued companies that pump out this swill teeter on a knife edge, they know that when enough people wake up, see that these tech giants are not their friends, decide to go it alone, the entire edifice of EM based thinking, processing and learning will vaporize overnight. And good riddance to these electronic vampire and ghouls

Here is the new paradigm The Rise of the Pen and Paper Revolution.

Maybe not that extreme but hopefully we can regain some of the essentials that are not totally reliant on tech. In this venue we can reconnect to the Universe and the slight nudges that help us steer through our lives are read like a life path Rosetta Stone

AGXIIK

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It isn't the tech that is the

It isn't the tech that is the issue but those who are using the tech to manipulate us. Of course the manipulation has been around forever, it is just now more readily available for abuse.

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AM, thanks for pointing out that the first 20 minutes are of interest, since I can't devote 2.5 hours to a pedantic video.

My initial thoughts about dream states and hypnotic effects was think of witch doctors. Their healing power seems to me to be able to reach the subconscious and so motivate self healing. Wikipedia puts traditional healing, homeopaths and faith healing in the same context.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_doctor

In my region (N. America) the former abundance of European honey bees is being replaced by native bees, especially the bumble bee but also green bees. These species produce only enough honey for the colony and no excess.

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I will watch some more of

I will watch some more of that video and rereview the parts that AM pointed out. Knowing AM and his subtle method of teaching, vs my more overt style, he has a message and I think he is pointing out 'control forces'. The part about the boy being hypnotized in a circle leads me to believe that he is talking about how we might be hypnotized by something, similar to the control forces that would lead people to fight. It's everywhere. In the supermarket, in Costco, Home Depot is really bad. Ever notice that large chain stores do not have clocks? That would be bad. Aisles are set up in a way to keep you there. It's not random choices. Every aspect is thought out to maximize profits. In some of these places, these control forces are tangible and if you are sensitive to them, you have to run out.

Circles are used in ritual all the time and they also need not be occult. We refer to a circle of friends or in some esoteric teachings, there are references to "inner circle" and people connected in a more intangible way.

Somewhere on youtube, there is an experiment, where somebody put down a wallet and drew a circle around it. Nobody would enter the circle, and nobody stole the wallet where as the control study of no circle, the wallet was taken. I've done this on a crowded beach because human beings like to walk two inches form your towel and kick sand in your face. That's what I call a sleep walker. But the circle worked. you can also experiment with it in your minds eye and visualize a circle and people will perceive it while not seeing it. 

My first reaction to the bee was something symbolic, but the thing with symbols, different cultures have different meanings. When it comes to things like symbols and symbolic content of language it, in and of itself, is completely neutral. How one takes language---and what one does through the use of words (his or her choice of language) shows their underlying motivation. Is it to build or is it to tear down? Is it to bring more upliftment into the world or is it to bring chaos? Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it kind? Everyone of us reveals who and what we are through how we use our creative abilities.

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Expanding Earth

Expanding Earth

This idea suggests that in the Permian epoch, 250 million years ago, the current land surface completely covered the planet. So the surface area would be just 30% of the current size and the volume about 15% of the current size. If the density of the planet has not changed then 85% of its mass has accumulated over the past 250 million years and, extrapolating back, the Earth arose from nothing about 300 million years ago. If the mass has not changed then the density has increased by a factor of about 6.6 and, extrapolating back, the Earth arose from a singularity about 300 million years ago.

It is unclear to me which of these possibilities the Expanding Earth proponents propose since this issue is not addressed. Any novel theory ideally needs to have some evidence or at least be able to explain the conundrums that it raises.

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