Ebola in CONUS (Ebola #3 thread)

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Wed, Oct 29, 2014 - 1:15pm
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Kaci Hickox...

political operative for the CDC, the Obama administration or champion of individual rights? Regardless, she ain't making many friends. Immigration and Ebola polices at the crossroads: Let the games begin…

https://dailycaller.com/2014/10/27/released-ebola-nurse-kaci-hickox-works-for-cdc-her-lawyer-is-a-white-house-visitor/

Wed, Oct 29, 2014 - 5:16pm
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Maine Governor Threatens Forced Quarantine

Authorities appear to be marching willfully into political quicksand. Will agents in hazmat suits physically subdue Kaci Hickox? Exactly how do they intend to enforce this quarantine without locking her up? Handcuffs: The New PPE

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-29/nurse-kaci-hickox-says-she-won-t-follow-maine-s-ebola-quarantine.html

And just to raise the stakes, California has now entered the fray:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-orders-ebola-quarantine-protocols-20141029-story.html

Wed, Oct 29, 2014 - 10:31pm Scramble
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Scramble wrote: political

Scramble wrote:

political operative for the CDC, the Obama administration or champion of individual rights? Regardless, she ain't making many friends. Immigration and Ebola polices at the crossroads: Let the games begin…

https://dailycaller.com/2014/10/27/released-ebola-nurse-kaci-hickox-works-for-cdc-her-lawyer-is-a-white-house-visitor/

Yeah they picked the wrong one when they decided to pick on her. I've heard a couple of interviews. I think that politicians underestimate the capability of people who choose to go into dangerous places to save lives. She's an expert in Epidemic and has been hired by the CDC in the past. She can more than handle the pressure and isn't distracted by a political agenda.

As much as you might like to see it I don't think she's going to carry anyone's cause here.

More medical facts, less politics and we will all be better off on this one.

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Thu, Oct 30, 2014 - 10:46am
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As much as you might like to see it I don't think she's going to carry anyone's cause here.

Agreed, HN. I don't really believe she is any of the above choices. Rather, I think she is one of those "Don't Tread on Me" personalities, and was largely oblivious (at least initially) to the political quagmire awaiting her. That said, she is out of her game, and risks being played by the various interest groups. This may not end well for her, as public sentiment seems largely against her…and the internet is very efficient at spreading the "hate". I think she is right on the facts (as we currently understand them), but pride will be her downfall as the public colors her simply selfish.

Katy bar the door if she turns up positive during the incubation period...it will get ugly.

Thu, Oct 30, 2014 - 3:29pm
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Kaci Hickox

The quarantine makes sense for those returning from treating Ebola patients. But then they put her in a shit hole and she has tested negative.

So instead of the media persecuting Kaci why don't they take on the negative test?

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/31/us/kaci-hickox-nurse-under-ebola-quar...

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Fri, Oct 31, 2014 - 11:49am
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Temporary Court Order

Temporary court order confines Kaci Hickox until final decision can be made later today...

https://apnews.myway.com/article/20141031/us-ebola-nurse-quarantined-maine-51a2285069.html

Fri, Oct 31, 2014 - 8:28pm
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Judge Says No Quarantine

for Kaci Hickox.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816108/Judge-rejects-Ebola-quarantine-nurse.html

(Interesting new tidbit: Kaci's roommate in Africa is claimed to have been treated for Ebola. The risk from this exposure has purportedly passed. No source for this claim is given. This little piece of information would certainly have stirred the pot further.)

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 - 9:23pm
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The ultimate asymmetric weapon

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 - 9:09am
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My question is for the Phd's

My question is for the Phd's and other medical personnel who review this thread..

How many of your medical profession understand Ebola as well as you?

How many medical professionals could treat and not spread via contamination Ebola victims?

Of course no one will know these exact numbers. But valuable feedback can be gathered, for future potential exposures and cross contamination(s).

-thanks for your consideration

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 - 9:02pm
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My wife is a nurse.  Each and

My wife is a nurse. Each and every day all the medical staff have to don and remove the protective gear. She is not at a designated hospital for Ebola. The idea is that they drill drill and drill until donning and removing is 2nd nature.

The longer this round of Ebola breakout goes the better prepared the West will be. That's a good thing.

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Tue, Nov 4, 2014 - 1:10pm Safety Dan
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Anecdotal...

@ SafetyDan: I'm not a clinician, but did work on the administrative side in a couple large hospital systems for many years. I asked a nurse at one of them what kind of education they were giving to the nurses in light of the breakdowns at Texas Presbyterian, and disruptions at Bellevue. She told me they had done some rudimentary education for the ED staff, but nothing in the ICU. My question to her: "Are they out of their minds? Once they present, they have to go somewhere."

Her answer: "Yep." Many do not seem willing to expend the resources to prepare for a low probability, but potentially catastrophic event...the very foundation of the insurance industry. You gotta shake your head...

Wed, Nov 5, 2014 - 11:33pm
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Ridiculous figures coming out

Ridiculous figures coming out of WHO showing the cumulative death rate DROPPING by nearly 500 over the last week in Sierra Leone.

31st October: 5338 infections, 1510 deaths
5th November: 4759 infections, 1070 deaths

According to these latest figures the death rate is only about 20% of infections, not the 50% - 70% generally accepted for this outbreak.

31st October; https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/137424/1/roadmapsitrep_31Oct201...
5th November: https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/137510/1/roadmapsitrep_5Nov14_e...

What BS.

RT reported a few days ago that Ebola in Sierra Leone is drastically underreported. Entire villages have disappeared and are not in the official statistics:

https://rt.com/news/201567-ebola-sierra-leone-toll-underreported/

Nov 05, 2014: North Carolina Five people being monitored for Ebola
Nov 04, 2014: Greensboro, North Carolina, US: Two Patients Monitored For Ebola
Nov 04, 2014: Raleigh, North Carolina, US: 3 in quarantine aimed to keep public calm over Ebola
Nov 04, 2014: Trenton, NJ, US: A dozen travelers being monitored for Ebola
Nov 04, 2014: Oregon, Medford, US: Person monitored for Ebola
Nov 03, 2014: Uganda, Africa: Three Ugandans in isolation after Ebola-like Marburg virus death
Nov 03, 2014: Portland, OR: Not 3, but 5 people in Oregon being monitored for Ebola
Nov 03, 2014: Turkey: An Egyptian member of ship crew hospitalized with suspected Ebola
Nov 03, 2014: Raleigh, NC, USA: Liberian traveler initially tests negative for Ebola
Nov 02, 2014: Portland, OR: Ebola ruled out for patient in Milwaukie hospital
Nov 02, 2014: Portland, Oregon Update: Liberian woman no longer has fever, but…
Nov 01, 2014: Vietnam: Man returning from Guinea suspected Ebola case
Nov 01, 2014: East Java: Patient suspected of having Ebola hospitalized in Madiun, East Java
Nov 01, 2014: Minnesota: Did you know that your state is monitoring 30 people for ebola?

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Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 12:45am
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Sierra Leone: Journalist

Sierra Leone: Journalist arrested after questioning official Ebola response

David Tam Baryoh was arrested under emergency regulations as Ebola-hit governments crack down on protest and criticism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/05/ebola-journalist-arrested-over-criticism-sierra-leone-government-response?CMP=twt_gu

Fri, Nov 7, 2014 - 6:32pm
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Shaking My Head

https://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/07/air-force-pilot-who-flew-on-... Air Force Pilot Who Flew on Mission to Liberia in Isolation for Ebola Testing After Exhibiting ‘Flu-Like Symptoms’

Sat, Nov 8, 2014 - 12:12am
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If  the entire village

If the entire village disappears then it is not likely that everyone died of Ebola. If that were the case they they would be found dead.

If the village disappeared it is more likely they fled.

Regardless of entire villages disappearing or not this outbreak will pass.

And sooner or later a new outbreak will appear.

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