A place to discuss alternative remedies such as colloidal silver and herbs - the good, the bad, and the ugly. Do they work? What remedies work best for you?
I use colloidal silver and I have gotten decent results from it. I've even used it (sparingly) with my cat who had an eye infection, and it helped him a lot. It has helped me with sinus infections and colds. The thing is, I don't find it to be this amazing cure-all. It has alleviated my sinus infection symptoms but not cleared it out 100% percent.
If Ebola came to the US I would certainly want colloidal silver on hand, and I'd be using it along with Elderberry, but I personally would guess that Ebola is too strong for it. It would help but in no way do I see it as a magic cure.
Although I am in the process of trying to balance homework, a barbecue, and catching up on today's news, with my dismay of your thread, and the “Ebola” thread being shut down, I'll have more on this topic later.
Sometimes it's difficult to find threads like this unless you know what you're looking for, I sort of stumbled upon it.
To continue a discussion from the “other” forum, colloidal silver certainly has medicinal value, but that will never, ever be accepted by the FDA, or the AMA, because to do such, could cause the pharmaceutical companies billions in revenue. There will never be an officially sanctioned treatment to anything that you can make yourself at home cheaply.
With no more than intuition to go by, I suspect that if colloidal silver, or nano silver, of which I still need to find the specific differences of, were taken in “maintenance doses”, it might ward off an initial Ebola virus infection, and is probably not a cure, since as I understand it, once a person becomes symptomatic, is pretty much already terminally ill.
I've come across many articles, which I will have to go back and find that do have individual doctors who have found colloidal silver to be both safe and effective against bacterial and viral infections.
This has absolutely been my experience as well, although it could conceivably be written off as anecdotal.
To even discuss the possibility that this “outbreak” is not of natural origin, could be well within acceptable parameters on a new and improved “Ebola outbreak forum”.
Unfortunately, with so many individual forums dedicated to specific topics, my favorite “catch all” forum on topics that interest me (DOTS) is getting very little traffic lately.
Before I found this, I was raising this issue with Turd, since he shut down the “official” thread.
I hope that a productive discussion can be organized here, I'll be back later.
DayStar sent me a lot of literature on this topic, one of which had a doctor's opinion that Ebola was almost identical symptomatically to scurvy, and that large doses of vitamin C would also be therapeutic in eliminating Ebola symptoms.
Ebola is not always fatal, so I am of the opinion that it can be counteracted with a broad range of natural remedies until the body's own immunological system can come up with a defense.
Other articles that I've read have stated that simply injecting plasma from an Ebola survivor will contain the antibodies required to work as a “vaccine”.
The “official narrative” that there is no treatment or cure is deeply suspect to me.
I have found colloidal silver to be an amazing cure all. Not having Mr. Fix's mechanical abilities, i buy it from https://www.mesosilver.com
Stephanie, you may be getting only partial sinus relief because there is congestion that re-infects. Like having a splinter get infected, silver might kill the infection but the splinter would get infected again if not removed. (this is just a thought, from my similar experience)
A Neti-pot combined with the silver was the super sinus fix for me.--
talk about a weird feeling, wow.
That's my problem. I have a neti pot and a sinus irrigator, and colloidal silver in a nasal spray form, and I do it briefly and then dislike it so much I slack off when I start feeling better. Discipline is not my strong suit.
I also swim regularly, and I think the chlorine in the pools is not helping, but I tried a nose plug (a few varieties) and they just don't fit me well. They seem to be made for people with teeny tiny noses. Earplugs have helped keep the water out of my ear canal and I'm mostly good with syncing my breathing (so I don't breathe in water). It's just that occasional splash that gets up the nose that does it.
Submitted by Safety Dan on August 23, 2014 - 4:18am.
Oh oh, I smell a lawsuit in the making, unless a retraction is made. The letter is from their attorney to the editor of NY Times. It looks like big business got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. More at the site link about the study:
By rima on August 18, 2014
Natural Solutions Replies to New York Times Calumny!
To The Editor
New York Times
Ref: August 16, 2014, on page A6 of the New York edition with the headline: Agencies Issue Warnings Over Bogus Ebola Cures.
To the Editor:
I am a Trustee of the Natural Solutions Foundation along with its founders, Rima E. Laibow, MD and Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine III (US Army Ret.). We are responding to your August 16, 2014 article, “Agencies Issue Warnings Over Bogus Ebola Cures” (page A6) which mentions our Foundation and provides several incorrect data points and implications.
It is not true that we provided Nigeria with Nano Silver. This erroneous statement in the New York Times should be publicly retracted. In fact, we have made the point, in writing, several times, that we know nothing about this doctor, his supposed silver, its research base (if any), its composition, concentration, purity or particle size, all of which are critical to the action of a nutrient nano-solution like Nano Silver.
We have also made the point in writing, video and podcasts numerous times that we are in close contact with the manufacturer of the same Nano Silver 10 PPM which was tested in vitro against the Ebola virus and found to be highly effective in inactivating Ebola virus in the research declassified by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency of the US Department of Defense in 2009. That company confirms that no one secured enough Nano Silver from them to match the shipment allegedly brought to Nigeria, so that there was no likely possibility that it could be the same Nano Silver 10 PPM of which we had spoken and written.
Your article further states that Dr. Rima was unavailable for comment and that questions emailed to her were not answered. She has no record of any correspondence from the New York Times or anyone writing on their behalf so that your assertion that she did not respond to your questions is correct since she never received them, nor did she receive any phone calls. Her 3 VOIP phone numbers, 3 cell phone numbers and one land line numbers uniformly show no record of any attempted or missed calls from North America. Thus, she was not able to respond to your calls for the same reason: she did not receive them. Dr. Rima has made herself available for dozens of interviews over the past few days.
Natural Solutions Foundation was established in 2004 with a specific Mission: To Discover, Develop, Demonstrate, Document and Disseminate natural solutions to pressing social issues. Since that time we have grown to become the premiere global health freedom association, www.GlobalHealthFreedom.org.
Rima E. Laibow, MD, our Medical Director, is a world-renowned physician practicing environmental and natural medicine and psychiatry. She has practiced drug-free medicine for over 44 years, primarily in New York State where she has been licensed from 1971. She holds inactive licenses in two other States.
In 2007 she addressed a meeting of 47 African Ministers of Health in Mombasa, Kenya at the invitation of the President of the organization of Ministers of Health. In her address, she warned the Ministers and their staff members about emerging viral diseases and urging adoption of natural means to respond to such diseases, citing such measures Intravenous Vitamin C and nutrient Nano Silver 10 PPM as primary natural remedies.
The President of the Foundation, known as “General Bert”, was the Commanding General of US Army Intelligence and Security Command when he retired from the Army. He has, since his retirement from the Army, become the chief strategist for global health freedom efforts. I practiced law for 36 years in the NY metro area, specializing in dietary supplement regulatory issues.
While the FDA and CDC are technically correct that “there is no approved treatment for Ebola…” that often repeated mantra is deceptive and misleading. FDA has legal authority which includes approval or denial of approval ONLY for pharmaceutical drugs that are presented by the industry. It is critically important to this issue to understand that, under the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA) this agency HAS NO AUTHORITY TO EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE DSHEA-grandfathered nutrient substances such as Nano Silver when they are offered to support the normal structure and function of the body. We have always been careful in that regard; when Dr. Rima Recommends Nano Silver, or any other natural solution, the recommendation is solely as a nutrient therapy that may benefit, as permitted under FDA guidelines and regulations.
In 2009 the United States Government declassified the DTRA (Defense Threat Research Agency) Nano Silver Ebola Study. The study was cleared for release via authorization 88ABW-2009-4491 and funded by DTRA through proposal #4.10036_07_AHB_B and JSTO/DTRA-NRC. The study was verified through the Public Relations office of DTRA under an informal Freedom of Information request recently filed by the Natural Solutions Foundation.
That study, conducted in vitro with active hemorrhagic viruses including Ebola, definitively showed that Nano Silver 10 PPM inhibits viral reproduction by supporting normal cell membrane structure and function, thereby stopping the virus before it can adhere to the cell, penetrate it or reproduce.
There is nothing speculative about this research: the results are quite definitive.
This is not a Drug Effect (prescription drugs work by poisoning enzyme systems to suppress symptoms). Nano Silver does not act like a drug; rather it is a nutrient that nourishes normal response to viral invaders.
The biological immune support functions of this nutrient are well-known and characterized by a massive scientific literature.
Nano Silver has been approved by the EPA as a not-toxic surface sanitizer for hospital, food service and other industrial environments, and as such, can have a vital role in stopping Ebola.
But Nano Silver is also a nutrient and may be used for immune system support, and as such, will save lives and may contain the disease.
Now, during this humanitarian crisis, WHO tells us it is ethical to try “unapproved interventions.” Humanitarian considerations must trump the niceties of regulatory law. Our Foundation, exercising our inalienable expressive association rights, has donated a small supply of Nano Silver 10 PPM and silver gel to one of the “Ebola front line states” , and made a larger quantity available to another one of the front line states at the request of the their government. Those states do not include Nigeria although Dr. Rima has made serious efforts to get the correct Nano Silver 10 PPM to the government of that country, without success.
That Nano Silver 10 PPM which has been provided is identical to that used in the above referenced study. It is being provided in cooperation with people from those countries both in their home nations and in the United States, as well as with the public health authorities there, for the purpose of an emergency clinical test of Nano Silver in vivo. It is our expectation that Nano Silver can be an important tool in containing the Ebola Outbreak which is now breaking-out, threatening a world-wide pandemic.
Mapp Biopharmaceuticals has received at least $140 million dollars for the development of its experimental, untested, unproven drug. A Canadian vaccine maker is being paid handsomely for its experimental, untested and unproven vaccine. Neither has an established scientific and clinical record of safety while inexpensive, safe, non-toxic Nano Silver 10 PPM is under what can only be called vicious attack.
At the same time that the New York Times incorrectly and inaccurately castigates both Nano Silver and the Natural Solutions Foundation, it suggests the use of Statin drugs against Ebola, as wild, wooly and bizarre a speculation as any snake oil salesman ever concocted.
The double standard is shocking and disappointing since the New York Times holds itself to a higher standard than supermarket checkout tabloids, or maintains that it does.
It is time for the conflict of interest-ridden FDA and CDC, whose track records in objective public safety are shamefully lacking, to finally stop misinforming the public about the potential therapeutic benefits of Nano Silver 10 PPM and stop actively obstructing the natural solutions to this humanitarian emergency.
Ralph Fucetola JD
Natural Solutions Trustee and Counsel