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George Soros

Initially submitted by "Patrancus".

Some additional reading

Submitted by Patrancus on November 8, 2012 - 11:45am.
Steve Kroft (born August 22, 1945) is an American journalist and a longtime correspondent for "60 Minutes". His investigative reporting has garnered him much acclaim, including three Peabody Awards and nine Emmy awards, one of which was an Emmy for Lifetime Achievement
You can understand what is happening to our America after reading this.
May God have mercy upon our nation.
One Evil Human

FROM STEVE KROFT ("60 Minutes")

Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft from "60 Minutes". It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress).

If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is "selective" in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible.Soros controls President Obama's every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won't regret it.

Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don't think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama's reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US ? "In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it."/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS' Mr. Steve Kroft's research has turned up. It's a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States . "George Soros"

George Soros is an evil man. He's anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good." He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath's lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 inHungary . Soros' father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz's, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s.

When Hitler's henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary , to oversee the murder of that country's Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.

Soros has repeatedly called 1944 "the best year of his life." 70% of Mr. Soros's fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect" During an interview with "Sixty Minute's" Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his "best year."

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather "potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble." Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper's death in 1994. Two of Popper's most influential teachings concerned "the open society," and Fallibilism.

Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The "open society" basically refers to a "test and evaluate" approach to social engineering. Regarding "open society" Roy Childs writes, "Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper's advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess."

In 1956 Soros moved to New York City , where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for "The American Thinker" she says, "Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight."

In 1994 Soros crowed in "The New Republic ," that "the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire." The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be "one of the greatest social robberies in human history. "The "Soros Empire" indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia 's Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros "a = villain, and a moron." Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, "We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people."

The website Greek National Pride reports, "Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros' role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality."

France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for "illegal market manipulation." Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary 's economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia 's national newspaper "The Australian." " America , as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out," he said, adding that the time has come for "a very serious adjustment" in American's consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about."

Soros: "World financial crisis was "stimulating" and "in a way, the culmination of my life's work."

Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama's largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).

Tait Trussel writes, "The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence."

A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com.Their mission: "This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world's poor, that justice will be served."

Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that "Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous."\ In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, "Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements."

Perhaps the most important of these "whistle blowers" are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book "The Shadow Party" outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, "By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia , Croatia , Georgia , and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for "regime change," he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup."

November 2008 edition of the German magazine "Der Spiegel," in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. "I think we need a large stimulus package." Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights."

Although Soros doesn't (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by "The Baltimore Chronicle's" Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by "a veritable who's who of former Republican leaders," from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney's old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama's win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren't bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn't forget to mention Soros' involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro's NEMESIS.

As Matthew Vadum writes, "The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives."

Richard Poe writes, "Soros' private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues underminingAmerica 's traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering."

Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.

Poe continues, "Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia."

Without Soros' money, would the Saul Alinsky's Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way.

The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"--------------
Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

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Thomas Jefferson”
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Edited by: Turd Ferguson on Nov 8, 2014 - 5:24am
Thu, Nov 8, 2012 - 1:01pm
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Attribution for this Article

FYI - according to Snopes.com, that article about George Soros is incorrectly attributed to Steve Croft of 60 Minutes - see this link...https://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/oneevilhuman.asp

Thu, Nov 8, 2012 - 1:04pm
Joined: Jan 17, 2012

The more you read and hear of this stuff how can anyone

stand it? This is probably only scratching the surface of how bad things really are.

I believe that the Demons are active and are able to influence many people through various means. Its the way you can explain the wickedness of many people, its beyond belief..

Eph. 6:11 Put on the complete suit of armor+ from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations*+ of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling,+ not against blood and flesh, but against the governments,+ against the authorities,+ against the world rulers*+ of this darkness, against the wicked spirit+ forces in the heavenly places.

Thu, Nov 8, 2012 - 1:18pm ReachWest
Joined: Jan 17, 2012

Nice catch.

I guess you have to test and be careful what you believe too.

Thu, Nov 8, 2012 - 1:52pm
Bloomington, IN
Joined: Jun 14, 2011

"The Capitalist Threat", by

"The Capitalist Threat", by George Soros, Atlantic Monthly, Volume 279, No. 2, Feb. 1997.

From George's pen...


What kind of society do we want? "Let the free market decide!" is the often-heard response. That response, a prominent capitalist argues,undermines the very values on which open and democratic societies depend.

IN The Philosophy of History, Hegel discerned a disturbing historical pattern -- the crack and fall of civilizations owing to a morbid intensification of their own first principles. Although I have made a fortune in the financial markets, I now fear that the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life is endangering our open and democratic society. The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat.

George Reisman's rebuke of Soros's Atlantic Monthly propaganda.


Back in 1997, George Soros, a multibillionaire stock and commodities speculator, wrote an essay titled "The Capitalist Threat" (The Atlantic Monthly, February1997. The essential substance of this essay is the claim that the main contemporary threat to a free society is a fully free society--i.e., a society of laissez-faire capitalism. It is a claim that has grown more prominent in the years since his article first appeared.

The obviously self-contradictory nature of this claim may have escaped Soros because he does not use the term "free society," but the ambiguous expression "open society." Yet is clear that insofar as the "open society" is to be considered as something desirable, it represents a free society, as when Soros writes: "The Declaration of Independence may be taken as a pretty good approximation of the principles of an open society...."

Soros presents two lines of argument to try to prove his claim. The first can be described as epistemological; the second, as economic.

In his epistemological argument, Soros claims that there is an essential common denominator between laissez-faire capitalism and communism and Nazism. He writes: "Although laissez-faire doctrines do not contradict the principles of the open society the way Marxism-Leninism or Nazi ideas of racial purity did, all these doctrines have an important feature in common: they all try to justify their claim to ultimate truth with an appeal to science." Soros has already announced the principle that: "Since the ultimate truth is beyond the reach of humankind, these ideologies [ideologies that claim to possess it] have to resort to oppression in order to impose their vision on society."

Soros's concept of "the open society" is another instance of the same fallacy. By means of its use, he not only commits the contradiction I described earlier of claiming that the main threat to a free society is a fully free society, but he seeks to negate the existence of all freedom. He writes that in the open society, "People must be free to think and act, subject only to limits imposed by the common interests. Where the limits are must also be determined by trial and error." (Italics mine.) Thus, he openly argues that the freedom of the individual is to be abridged out of deference to unspecified common interests, whose nature, according to him cannot even be reliably known, and that the limits to the abridgment of freedom are to be set by trial and error. The standard Soros offers for judging the process of trial and error is this:

"Unfortunately, in human affairs the facts do not provide reliable criteria of truth, yet we need some generally agreed-upon standards by which the process of trial and error can be judged. All cultures and religions offer such standards; the open society cannot do without them. The innovation in an open society is that whereas most cultures and religions regard their own values as absolute, an open society, which is aware of many cultures and religions, must regard its own shared values as a matter of debate and choice. To make the debate possible, there must be general agreement on at least one point: that the open society is a desirable form of social organization."

I turn now to the various economic arguments Soros puts forward against laissez-faire capitalism. Apart from those I have already considered in the course of dealing with his epistemological argument, namely those concerning "perfect competition," the absence of equilibrium, and the mistakes made in financial markets, there are four others that I can discern. These concern the alleged conflict between economic competition and social cooperation, the alleged need for the redistribution of wealth because of the existence of economic inequality, advertising and the alleged corruption of values by money, and financial crises.

Lew Rockwell on Soros:



The political left loves to prattle about the plight of the poor, but their darlings are increasingly culled from a small club of the world's richest men. Last year it was media mogul Ted Turner who won leftist affections by advocating population control and bailing out the United Nations.

This year, it is George Soros, the billionaire hedge-fund operator who has turned like a snake on the system of economics that made him rich. His new book is The Crisis of Global Capitalism, which argues for a world central bank and an army of new global regulators to straighten out the world monetary mess, according to the Sorosian prescription.

Like Turner before him, Soros also has a message about morality. He believes that currency traders and international financiers, operating in a cruel and amoral market, have far too much influence. That influence must be restrained by more national and international government power.

No need to go on characterizing Soros's Grand Theory. The declaration that capitalism must be hobbled has been made ten thousand times since socialist thinking became the vogue a century ago. As usual, behind it is a deep distrust of human freedom combined with an unwarranted faith in government control.


Thu, Nov 8, 2012 - 2:39pm
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Soros and Snopes

I thought that I had come across something recently that Soros controls the pen at Snopes as well.

Fri, Nov 9, 2012 - 7:17am
Joined: Aug 1, 2011

On Soros...

I think that the most important article on Soros was written by Richard C. Morals in 1997, and was published by Forbes:

Beware of billionaires bearing gifts

Many "researchers" are using this article as a source today, but Morals should get the credit. It's hard to find this article online, thanks to Soros and his people, but here it is --

A near decade after the collapse of the Soviet
Union, much of Central and Eastern Europe is still
ruled by the old gang.
Guess who's helping keep them in power?

Beware of billionaires bearing gifts

By Richard C. Morals
Forbes, April 1997

IF YOU'VE DIMLY wondered what is happening in
we can, in a brief sentence, explain: George Soros' friends are coming out on top. Late in February, armed gangs led by gangsters and
ex-Communists, many of them veterans of the old
secret police state, all but toppled an elected
liberal government, and forced the president to
appoint a neoCommunist as prime minister.
While this was happening, George Soros sat in his London
town house and calmly told FORBES that his
A!banian Foundation is "an excellent group very
much on top of the situation."

On top is right: Soros has kept afloat a
newspaper, Koha Jone, that egged on the coupists
with inflammatory antigovernment propaganda. A
pyramid scheme had collapsed, costing many people
their savings, and the Soros-supported paper
effectively made a call to arms. A top official of
the Soros foundation in Tirana boasted to stunned
observers: "[President] Berisha's going. We got

In an age-old tradition of European political
patronage, this multibillionaire speculator
routinely taps his billions to fund journals,
politicians and educators in Europe and elsewhere.
More often than not, these have an exclusively
left-wing bias.

Soros, 67, is Hungarian-born but a U.S. citizen.
He recently caused a flutter in the February issue
of the Atlantic Monthly by penning a windy attack
on free market capitalism.

Why is George Soros so cozy with people and causes
that might be expected to view his kind as

To understand his charitable works Forbes visited
the Soros Foundation Hungary's cream-colored villa
in the hills of Budapest. Hungary is not only
Soros' native land but where his charities have
the longest history. There we met Miklos
Vasarhelyi, the 80year-old president of the
Sorosfunded foundation. This man, who dispenses
millions of dollars a year in a rather poor
country, has an intcresting past. Vasarhelyi was
press officer to Imre Nagy, the Communist Prime
Minister exccuted in 1958 for being too
independent. Vasarhelyi stood trial along with
Nagy after Soviet tanks crushed the 1956 Hungarian
uprising. Nagy and most others were hanged or
sentenced to life. Vasarhelyi got just five years,
the lightest punishmcnt of the pack.

Thanks to George Soros, this former Communist has
risen again.
A political party he helped found is a partner in the present government. That
government is a coalition of ex-Communists (now
the Hungarian Socialist Party) and a leftlibcral
group, the Alliance of Free Democrats, a coalition
that came to power in 1994 after defeating a
rather ineffectual moderate government. Soros
blessed the election results.

"These are strong, serious-minded people," he
publicly said of the victorious ex-Communists.
"I have great expectations in general." Not everyone
agreed. One prominent foreign businessman who
first considered, then rejected, doing business in
Hungary, described the current government as a
"bunch of clowns who haven't a clue as to how
to run an ecconomy."

Soros has since banged heads with Socialist Prime
Minister Gyula Horn, but remains close to his
coalition partner, the Alliance of Free Democrats.
He provides many AFD leaders with income. Besides
Vasarhelyi, for example, Soros' Hungarian lawyer,
Alajos Dorubach, is a top-ranked AFD official and
a legal adviser to the foundation.

Soros is the great philanthropist of our age--or
so his press constantly remind us. Every year,
according to his flacks, he gives away more than
$300 million through a network of 1,000 employees
in 30 countries
. When Russian scientists were starving he gave each a year's salary; he brought
fresh water to besieged Bosnians; he's providing
kindergartens for Gypsies. Good deeds, all.

But there is another side to the giving, a rathcr
nutty political side. The 50 offices maintained by
Soros money are spread from Haiti to Mongolia, and
all claim that their works are based on
philosopher Sir Karl Popper's views of tolerant,
open societies. Thus a common name: Open Society

Behind the nuttiness, there is a consistency. "The
people Soros hires," says Mark Almond, a respected
Oxford University lecturer, "are noted for their
anti-Thatcherite views. You'll be hard-pressed to
find a religious dissident or staunch
anti-Communist in his foundations."

Johnathan Sunley, the Budapestbased director of
The Windsor Group, puts it even more strongly:
"Soros is engaged in a one-dimensional ideological
laundering of the old Communist/nomenklatura
at the expense of those who didn't get trips abroad."
Sunley means, of course, that real anti-Communists
couldn't travel abroad in Communist days; only
those in official favor could. Soros has adopted
many of these formerly pampered, generally
moderate Marxists.

Johnathan Sunley, The Windsor Group Conservatives
like Sunley say Soros Is "laundering" former

says Peter Bod, a former cabinet minister and central bank governor in Hungary, "is the most
influential nonelected politician east of the
His power stems not from the ballot box but from his bank account. He wants to see that the
old left-wing dictatorships are replaced--not with
free market democracies, but with left-wing

"Yes," the prickly billionaire conceded in an
interview with FORBES, "clearly there is a
political bias in the [Soros] foundation."

Look at the trustees of his U.S. foundation and
you will see where the bias lies. One of them is
the notorious Lani Guinier, the law professor Bill
Clinton tried to nominate as head of the civil
rights division of the Justice Department.
Once her intemperate brand of politics was
examined--such as minority veto power over
legislation--even Clinton backed away from her
and withdrew his support.

"Yes," says the prickly billionaire. "Clearly
there is a political bias in the [Soros]

President of the Open Society Institute in the
U.S. is Aryeh Neier, a human rights advocate who
often embraces extreme liberal positions.
So be careful when you apply the term
"philanthropy" to Soros' spending. Not all his
causes are political, but he's clearly a would-bc
social engineer. You wouldn't get far in a U.S.
election running on a Soros-style platform, but
you might feel quite at home in a lot of U.S.

But back to Hungary. Soros has been working in his
native Hungary for the past 13 years. In the early
1980s he was quietly supporting dissidents in
Central and Eastern Europe. It was then that the
mercurial Vasarhelyi showed up at Columbia
University in New York, where he met Soros. The
ex-Communist hack seems to have had a considerable
influence on the billionaire. With Vasarhelyi's
help Soros made a deal in 1984 with the
then-government. The first Soros Hungarian
foundation had a budget of $3 million and was
jointly run by Soros and the Communists. "One of
Soros' conditions was that I should be his
personal representative," says Vasarhelyi. "He had
excellent judgment," says Soros, "and a good
understanding of what was possible and what

Interesting guy. Vasarhelyi's understanding of
what is possible has undergone a number of
changes. In 1936 and 1937 he studied political
science in Rome because he thought "Italian
Fascism showed the way out of an unjust society."
He secretly joined the Hungarian Communist Party
in 1939 and officially became a member of the
Social Democratic Party. "[The Communist Party]
instructed [me] to join the Social Democratic
Party," he wrote in his 1989 autobiography, "to
try and get a hold of key positions, but to
continue following the leadership of the Communist

By the late 1940s the Communists ruled Hungary and
Vasarhelyi became a top-ranked "journalist"
spouting pure Communist propaganda. Then he turned
his coat again. By the mid1950s, he had joined
the ranks of "goulash" Communists disenchanted by
Stalinism, but still in love with Karl Marx. After
serving his relatively mild prison term,
Vasarhelyi eventually got a job at a literature
academy, was given a passport and allowed to
travel. The dissidents we talked to said
dissidents normally didn't get such perks. Says
OSI's Neier: "We always regarded him as strongly
committed to the Open Society principles, and he
is held in high regard."

Everyone likes Vasarhelyi. References to him are
to be found in recently released internal records
of Communist Party meetings about a 1989 political
demonstration. Vasarhelyi and others negotiated
with the government on behalf of the dissidents.
According to the records: "it is worth talking
to...Vasarhelyi on whom we have influence" and "if
the [speeches] get into Vasarhelyi's hands we
would be able to get ahold of them." Vasarhelyi
strenuously denies collaborating with the

Maybe that was wishful thinking, but it's a
revealing comment nonetheless. Vasarhelyi of
course no longer calls himselfa Communist but
neither is he a big believer in free markets. "I
was and always am very critical of capitalism,"
Vasarhelyi tells FORBEs.

Give Soros credit. His money does do considerable
good. Between 1984 and 1989 he and Vasarhelyi
helped uudermine the Communist Party's control of
information by trading photocopying machines to
cultural and educational institutes for Hungarian
currency; the currency was then used to give
grants to dissidents and to writers of all
political stripes.

But along the way Soros seems to have developed
delusions of grandeur. He wasn't satisfied with
helping end Communist totalitarianism. He wanted
to decide what kind of government would replace
it. In 1990 a new center-right coalition
government was voted into power in Hungary which
killed the Soros-government agreement. That's when
the foundation began its partisan support.
Vasarhelyi denies that there is any political bias
in his foundation. The Soros Foundation, for
example, gives to the youth clubs and pays for
Gypsy dance troupes (the Gypsies are a repressed
minority in Europe).

A press officer told us over a five-star buffet we
should see what Soros "means to the little

Gabor Ivanyi is a former AFD member of parliament,
and a Methodist minister who runs homeless
shelters in Budapest. Last year Soros Foundation
Hungary gave Ivanyi $38,000 for mattresses, an
ambulance to pick up homeless who were freezing on
the streets and for TB treatments. Ivanyi is a
genuine man of goodwill.

But study the foundation's 1980s modus operandi
and you'll see it always mixed applauded works
with politically motivated projects. With
Vasarhelyi's AFD pals in power again, we found the
relationship with certain sectors of governmerit
very cozy. The AFD-controlled culture ministry and
the Soros foundation, for example, both subsidize
periodicals. We matched the most recently
published lists of subsidies and found 77% of the
periodicals that got major government handouts
also received subsidies from the Soros
foundation. It seems to us a foundation dedicated
to an Open Society would go out of its way to
assist periodicals not supported by the government
of the day.

How reformed are Soros' ex-Communists? Not very.
A few years back, Gyorgy Litvan, a Soros friend of
longstanding, a former adviser to the
foundation's board and director of an institute
given Soros' grants, attacked historian Maria
Schmidt. She had uncovered secret police files
indirectly confirming that Alger Hiss had been a
Soviet spy. Her work was widely published in the
U.S. and led to a Reader's Digest article in
Hungary. Then she bumped into Litvan. Schmidt says
Litvan lambasted her for her "mentality," and said
he would do everything he could to stop her
working as an academic in Hungary.

Litvan tells FORBES he never said such a thing,
but admits he used his power to block her from
making a documentary on the secret police. "I
dislike her," he says. "She is on the far right."
This Soros friend has an interesting idea of what
constitutes "far fight." It seems to be anyone to
the right of Alger Hiss.

Interviewing him in London, FORBEs asked Soros
why he supports turncoats likc Litvan and
Vasarhelyi. His reply was--shall we say--a bit
"They [as exCommunists] know better what democracy is than perhaps those who were
always opposed to [the regime]." What an insult to
those true democrats who paid, sometimes with
their lives, for their beliefs.

[ these people slaughtered the population, Hungary,
Czechoslavakia uprisings in 1950's, and other countries ]

That's outrageous, typical Soros gobbledygook.
Exactly what does he believe in? A utopian vision
of a sort of borderless, multicultural world,
where people respect one another and the
well-to-do take care of the lesswell-off. But
Soros' friend Byron Wien, managing director of
Morgan Stanley International, comes closer to the
truth when he says: "Soros is terrified of
right-wing nationalism."

Understandable perhaps in a man who spent his
boyhood watching Nazis aud their Hungarian
supporters at work. In testimony to the U.S.
Congress in 1994, Soros insisted that Eastern
Europe's ex-Communists "want to get away from
Communism as far as possible. Their reemergence
constitutes a welcome extension of the democratic
spectrum." Soros went on: "The real danger is the
emergence of would-be nationalist dictatorships.
They are playing in a field definitely tilted in
their favor."

[ ie, destroy nationalities and borders ]

Thus, for Soros, a rosy glow seems to surround the
left, while conservatism seems, to him, a stand-in
for Nazism. That may seem relatively benign when
expoundcd in American universities. It is pure
poison in Eastern and Central Europe, which badly
need to develop their free markets.

Soros annually pumps some $60 million into
outfits in Hungary, among them his Central
European University, whose goal is to educate an
"administrative elite." Here students can not only
bone up on macroeconomics but also on such
American imports as feminist literary theory and
how the media "constructs gender and sexuality,
whether heterosexual or homosexual."

We found Soros' "cultural elite" unbelievably
arrogant. A chirpy Open Society Institute press
officer told us over a five-star Kempinski Hotel
breakfast that she wanted FORBES to see what Soros
"means to the little people."

Vatlay Klaus, the Czech Republics prime minister
and a tireless advocate of free markets, has a
good notion of what Soros' ideas mean to "the
little people." Klaus, in effect, kicked Central
European University out of Prague. The no-nonsense
Klaus wasn't afraid of Soros' ideas. He just
didn't want Soros money buying up Czech

Soros returned the insult: "Klaus embodies the
worst of the Western democracies." Maybe, but
the Czech Republic is easily the most prosperous,
modern economy in Central or Eastern Europe.

Say this for Soros: He knows his way around the
law. His country foundations are usually local
legal entities but often receive funds, says his
New York press officer, from the New
York-domiciled foundations. That's very

According to the IRS tax code, to enjoy tax-exempt
status a private foundation cannot "intervene,
directly or indirectly, in any political campaign
on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate
for public office .... "

You can dismiss George Soros as a kooky rich man
who uses his money to collect politicians and
intellectuals the way some rich people collect
castles and old masters. And in a way he is
ridiculous, flying about the world, holding press
conferences and writing books and articles that
nobody can understand.

On the other hand, money can do a lot of harm in
politics, especially in poor, small countries.


IN BUDAPEST in 1944 George Soros lived a double
life. His father, a lawyer and editor of a journal
in Esperanto (a now almost forgotten effort to
develop a common language for the world), forged
official papers to disguise the family's Jewish
heritage. The papers saved the family, and during
the Nazi occupation, when German and Hungarian
fascist allies rounded up 300,000 Jews, young
Soros posed as the Christian godson of a Hungarian
government official. The 14-year-old George Soros
sometimes found himself accompanying his supposed
godfather as he seized the property of Jewish
families bound for slaughter.

Heroic? No, but how many heroes are there when
survival is the issue and resistance futile? It's
typical of Soros that he purports to remember that
time not as a terrifying ordeal but as an
adventure. "The happiest year of my life," he
calls it.

Read George Soros' frank personal statements and
meet the billionaire in his elegant but slightly
tatty London home-light switches falling out of
the wall, piles of laundry on the bathroom
floor--and you can't help but rather like the man.
Yet sometimes the openness seems a bit phony.
Example: After George Soros challenged Europe's
Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992, becoming the "man
who broke the Bank of England" and probably the
first person to make $1 billion in a month, he
lectured: "It behooves the authorities to design a
system that does not reward speculators." Yeah, I
did it, but you shouldn't have let me. It's the
system. So he's a capitalist but hedges his bets
by supporting socialist causes.

The key to understanding George Soros is that he
skirts, by his own admission, a kind of lunacy.
It's both his strong point and his weak point.
"Next to my fantasies about being God," Soros told
British television,
"I also have very strong
fantasies of being mad.
In fact, my grandfather was actually paranoid. I have a lot of madness in
my family. So far I
have escaped it." Just.

One bout of instability came in the early 1980s.
His fund was doing extremely well when he walked
away from his partner, first wife and family. It
was a "very intense emotional process to correct
errors [in the financial markets]," he explains.
"The psychic cost of running the fund was very
high. The more successful I was, the more I was
punished by having more money to run."

During this turmoil Soros walked through the City
of London and was convinced--wrongly-that he was
having a heart attack. "It made me realize that
maybe it wasn't worth it. To have a heart attack
and be knocked out is really losing the game."
He spent a few years devoting himself to his
intellectual and charitable interests, remarried
and eventually pulled off his greatest financial
coup by betting against the British pound.
Unable to resist pondering his navel, eager to
dazzle with his erudition, Soros has produced
several books, all impenetrable to the point where
some people think he is pulling their leg. His
recently published Atlantic Monthly article, "The
Capitalist Threat," is a collection of pretentious
and incomprehensible musings about capitalism,
implication being that, though he didn't mention
them by name,' Reagan and Thatcher were bad guys.
"The article was misunderstood," he says. "I was
not attacking the capitalist system. I was
attacking the excesses of the capitalist system."

Oh. When he went through his personal crisis in
the early 1980s, he says he felt he was acting out
the conflict between his parents. We couldn't
resist asking: Are you projecting onto capitalism
and the financial markets your own personal

"Maybe so," he answered. "The insecurity I feel
actually corresponds to the conditions in the
market better than the equilibrium that the
professors of economics deal with."

Looking into himself, Soros sees the world.
Looking at the world, he sees--George Soros.
Madness is close to genius.

Fri, Nov 9, 2012 - 7:58pm
Nick Elway
Joined: Jun 14, 2011

Soros loves China

Response to Byzantium's post https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/141398#comment-141398 supposing that those in charge are trying to stop China.

Soros: China must be part of the New World Order

Soros: China Must Be Part Of The New World Order



Soros already knows what will come next – the transfer of economic and political power from the United States and other Western democracies to emerging economies, particularly China:

The rising powers must be present at the creation of this new system in order to ensure that they will be active supporters.

Soros has special admiration for Communist China, whose government he believes is somehow superior to ours:

Today China has not only a more vigorous economy, but actually a better functioning government than the United States.

Soros does caution China to become a more “open society” if it expects to be accepted as a world leader. However, he does not say what that means. Certainly, Soros’ efforts to suppress media voices opposed to his notion of redistributionist social justice would find a welcome home in China.

In summary: If Zero works for Soros (a decent hypothesis) then he is NOT taking these New World Order steps to stop China (the "better functioning" kleptocracy) but to move the US to have a government more like China's. Joel Skousen suggest Soros and company WANT a nuclear exchange. In one stroke it solves "running out of energy", "overpopulation", and "global warming" and leaves poor huddled masses begging for the tyrants (neo-feudalism) favor just to survive. The exchange must be launched in a way the banksters and top people in Russia, China, and the US have plausible deniability, lest the surviving mobs start looking for them. Possibly when the US invades Iran after being a MENA bully for 10 years, Russia will feel justified in launching first.