Ann Barnhardt, religion and everything in between

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Ann Barnhardt, religion and everything in between

This is a thread intended to preserve the ideological aspects of discussion on MFingGlobal that have strayed a bit too far from the topic of the ongoing collapse of the Great Keynesian Experiment. No offense intended, but the topic is on the main blog is MF Global, not Ann B.'s views on culture, religion, her body, or her aptitude as a survivalist. Have at it over here.

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Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:10pm
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Ann Barnhardt is a hoot

Ann Barnhardt is a hoot. Her site is: https://barnhardt.biz/. Slightly off-topic but too funny...

There she recounts a message she received at her YouTube account:

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Shariyah4pakistan has sent you a message:

you should be killed.

To:annbarnhardt

you should be killed in a bad way ..u have been mislead to path of corruption and distortion.

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And her too-good-to-be-true response:

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Re: you should be killed.

Dear Shariyah4pakistan,

My name is Ann Barnhardt and my address is 9175 Kornbrust Circle, Lone Tree, CO 80124. I am a 35 year old single female who lives alone. Here are driving directions to my home from the Denver Airport. There are daily direct flights to Denver from both Heathrow-London and Frankfurt, so you could be here within 24 hours quite easily. After arriving at Denver and passing through customs, you will need to catch the shuttle to the rental car facility. Once in your rental car, take Pena Boulevard to I-225 south. Proceed on I-225 south to I-25 south. Proceed south on I-25 to Lincoln Avenue which is exit 193. Turn right (west) onto Lincoln. Proceed west to the fourth light, and turn left (south) onto Ridgegate Boulevard. Proceed south, through the roundabout toKornbrust Drive. Turn left onto Kornbrust Drive and then take an immediate right onto Kornbrust Circle. I'm at 9175.

You are more than welcome to come to my home, or to send other musloids here in the U.S. that you have recruited, to try to "kill me in a bad way". Please do. I have multiple weapons systems that I would like to try out in a live tactical engagement. There are several mosques in Colorado. Here is the contact information for the main mosque here in Denver, which is not terribly far from my home. Please feel free to contact this mosque, or any other, and recruit jihadis to come and "kill me in a bad way".

Masjid Abu Bakr 
Imam Karim Abu Zaid 
2071 South Parker Road 
Denver, CO 80231 
Phone: 303-696-9800 
Email: denvermosque[at]yahoo[dot]com

In fact, if you are a devout musloid, you are absolutely required by the koran to do just that, and if you don't, then your belief in and devotion to the fake pagan moon deity "allah" and the pedophile cult-leader mohammed (pig diarrhea be upon him) is in question. Are you REALLY a muslim? Or are you so terrified by a young, single Christian woman in the United States that you have been driven by your own trembling fear into apostasy?

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it continues on...

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Somebody posted this photo of her earlier in the day on the other thread. I'll repost it so you can put a face to the writing.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:15pm
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@PeaceSilver, Turd Re: Ann

@PeaceSilver, Turd

Re: Ann Barnhardt

Her warning I posted earlier was very clear. If you don't hold it in your hands where you can defend it then it is worthless. Everyone make their own decision. Just to let y'all know this lady has posted quite a bit about the threat of Islam to the West and in response to the death threats she received she posted her personal and business addresses and told 'em to come get sum. Wish I had her gumption. When TSHTF she's welcome at my place.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:18pm
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daily reader, rarely post...

originally posted by "thesandbox" https://www.cnbc.com/id/45111348

4th paragraph: In August, the Fed [cnbc explains] took the unusual step of declaring that interest rates would stay at exceptionally low levels blah blah blah.

curious i click on the "explain this" link and get taken to this: https://www.cnbc.com/id/43752521

where i read this:

What is the Federal Reserve?

The Fed is the gatekeeper of the U.S. economy and is part of the federal government.

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either CNBS is clueless or they intentionally posted this their website to mislead.

i think is it both.

sorry just had to point it out. dont mind me. keep stacking.

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is this the same Ann Barnhardt chick everyone is talking about:

seems like a Christian fundamentalist to me. =\

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:21pm
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@aether - That's her. I would

@aether - That's her. I would call her more of a Christian Radical than a fundamentalist. And that's the type of Radical that I'm just fine with.

And if she happens to be a fundamentalist ... you gotta problem with that???

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:23pm
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@cpn

yes, i have a problem with radicals/fundmentalists, especially those with imaginary friends.

you know, those doing "gods work"

would you take investing advice for a guy that burns a bible?

=\

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:29pm
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she's what she is

[Note - 3 posts condensed into 1 - Mod. Jefferson]

and is she is a fundamentalist, which I doubt...so fucking what...

by the way she is fearless and would tear your head off if necessary...

she burns the koran....

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:30pm
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Yes, she filled a Koran with

Yes, she filled a Koran with bacon and then barbecued it to demonstrate her 1st Amendment rights. 

I would imagine she lives in a pretty fortified bunker...err house. My kind of lady.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:31pm
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@aether - No. And for the

@aether - No. And for the exact same reason that a Muslin probably wouldn't take investing advice from her.

"East is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet." - R. Kipling

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:34pm
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Radicals?

Radicals? extreme radicals,extreme anything ....I'm not really "fine" with. Not fine with the lynchings of blacks 100 years ago,not fine with the burning of women at the stake 400 years ago, not fine with Galileo being put in prison because he said the earth revolved around the sun, or whatever he said. You get the idea..... I'm not in favor of killing anyone, or being killed, over religious beliefs or economic beliefs, or political or sexual orientation. You get the idea.

This woman seems like Ann Coulter with an assault rifle and a nicer body.

 Is it possible her bag is a little off topic for this blog ? just wonderin.

 I dont know what everybody is gettin so excited about with her.

 Is this Fox network I tuned into ?

 or a porn channel?

Is someone gonna post the video of John Mc Cain singin "Bomb Bomb Iran " now....

 what planet am I living on.

In other news.....SVM dropped down into the Gap to fill today at 8.52 and bounced....like I forecasted.

 where to now....I dont know.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:36pm
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To whomever posted they don't

To whomever posted they don't like that she is a Christian fundamentalist.

Do you have the cajones to burn a koran with pork in it, post it on the web, and then give out your addresses and invite those asshole muslims to come get sum? Didn't think so. To those of you who don't believe in the Lord, fine. Some day He is gonna show up in your FACE when you need it most and I wish I could be there to see it. At the mods, feel free to start a new forum post for this topic as it's getting large.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:38pm
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That anonymous hate email she

That anonymous hate email she received has a lot in common to the anthrax letters that went out within days of 911. Once it was clear that the strain of anthrax (Ames strain) was produced domestically the FBI rounded up Steven Hatfill. Hatfill won an almost $6 million lawsuit against the FBI for being wrongfully accused, after which the FBI fingered Bruce Ivens who couldnt take the guilt and suicided himself, apparently.

So according to the FBI the anthrax attacks were domestically derived yet these were the notes in the letters.

For all we know Little Miss Hardcore Christian with the Pink Weapon might have sent this message to herself.

Calling out the local Mosque is moronic on many levels not at all tough as many perceive here.

A little more scrutiny would be nice to see through the demonization tactics.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:40pm
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Article on Bernhard

I think I'm gonna agree with Sheeple on this one. Can't say I know much about the Muslim religion. However, I do know that Islamic culture was very advanced in the arts and sciences especially in the field of medicine while the Europeans were still practicing ancient superstitious forms of medicine. The crusaders went into their land pillaged all their gold, Islamic Gold dinar, raped their women and left their culture in ruin. Any wonder why in any religion there is always a fundamentalist element? Anger and resentment. I've met Islamic Sufi's and they were some of the most peaceful loving people. She has the right to burn a holy book, ok. You can't outlaw hatred nor should you. But I should remind you that the Roman empire, in the name of Christianity, killed, raped, pillaged caused more destruction than almost any religion I can think of. Does it make Christianity bad? Hell, no. Feels like she tapped into an ancient morphic field of hatred. Ok, she did a great job on that article, saw it coming, and has alot in common with those of us who see behind the smoke and mirrors in our political and financial system. That doesn't mean I'm jumping on this anti-muslim bandwagon. I'm not sure who it was, maybe Ron Paul, said has anybody even seen or met anybody who is from Al Queda? If they do exist and it is just a creation of our media, they probably one of many fundamentalist groups that use religion to get their way. Here is an article on bernhard that I found. I only copied a portion of it. https://www.reporterherald.com/news/loveland-local-news/ci_19117823 'Not In My House' But owner Chauncey Taylor, upon hearing about the speaker and her presentation, contacted the CCU organizers on Friday and canceled the event. "I don't want anyone who is espousing violence, or inviting violence upon themselves, to be here," Taylor said after investigating Barnhardt's website and talking with event organizers. "My duty is to keep this a safe and uplifting place for our customers and employees. Anyone who is going to advocate violence is not welcome. That's not acceptable, not in my world, not in my house. If you're espousing hate, please don't come to my house." Barnhardt, who described herself in an interview Friday as a "traditional, pre-Vatican II, Latin-Mass Catholic," rejects any distinction between Islamic extremists and Muslims in general. She said also that she rejects the notion that Islam is a religion, and that Muslims therefore enjoy First Amendment protection. "It's not a religion," she said. "It's a totalitarian political system. It is a seditious system, working against every government on the face of the earth."

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:43pm
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Barnhardt email

What do her religious views have to do with that email/message? Absolutely nothing.

Hey aether, why are you posting such a ridiculous picture like that? What's your motive on that? Rile people up?

Please take this religious blather off to the forums where it belongs. It has no place here in regard to the topic at hand of MF Global.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:44pm
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Barnhardt

Take her message with the usual due diligence........but don't kill the message. I frankly think she has some very valid points but like many idealogues (left and right) that are used by the PTB to distort the actual truth her conclusions can be very misleading and distort the actual truth. I could give a rat's ass about her "battle with islam" but I do care that she works within the system that MF inhabited and has an opinion based upon her knowledge of that system....so I DO listen to what she says and I DO NOT shoot the message...btw she is right about trading paper.......ESPECIALLY options

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 8:53pm (Reply to #10)
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Ann

I think in time the direction her focus seems to be headed will become relevant, as it is now, and more so that you will see it also. 

Good call on SVM. I'm eager to to add to my position and am now considering new information. With MF corzine fiasco and some of the light ANN has shed on it; should I trust my money with E-trade and Merrill lynch? I'm so tempted to suffer penalties and with draw my IRA and increase my physical positions. What to do? What to do?

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 9:39pm
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Well, that topic got ruined

Well, that topic got ruined in a hurry. Nevermind that 75% of Turd's blog post was a quote from her. Seems like we should be able to discuss who she is. Whatever.

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 9:52pm (Reply to #16)
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Bsong wrote: I think in time

Bsong wrote:

I think in time the direction her focus seems to be headed will become relevant, as it is now, and more so that you will see it also. 

Good call on SVM. I'm eager to to add to my position and am now considering new information. With MF corzine fiasco and some of the light ANN has shed on it; should I trust my money with E-trade and Merrill lynch? I'm so tempted to suffer penalties and with draw my IRA and increase my physical positions. What to do? What to do?

It would seem to me that this post directly pertains to the issue of the main blog. It has no mention of religion. Bsong asking if his money is safe and where he should put it was very relevant as were all the other posts related to that subject that still remain on the main blog. 

My guess is at 9:30am tomorrow morning the Turd will post another post, and this whole issue over Burnhart would have been history anyway. One might argue the character of the messenger is relevant. I'm fine with the Turd asking us to stay on topic. However, I think you might have created more work for yourself than necessary. Moving on

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 10:00pm
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@ Green Lantern re: Bsong's post...

...was put here by him/her, not me. Bsong, please feel perfectly free to copy and repost to the main blog thread.

As I was just explaining to someone else here:

The moving of posts was NOT aimed at you specifically, any one reader, nor at the people discussing Ann's views on MF Global, investments, accounts, physical or financial matters in general. Sorry if you disagree, and BTW the topic did not get killed, deleted or removed. I just MOVED all the posts to a venue of their own, trying very hard to point people to the place where all of the posts are copied in all their untarnished glory.

The issue is this - I/we are trying to prevent the discussion from degenerating into religion-baiting, xenophobic, hate-mongering drivel. What possible purpose would it serve to have readers on the Main Street portion of the blog debate Christian Fundamentalism vs. Christianity in general vs. Muslim faith vs. Muslim Fundamentalism? Burning the Koran with slabs of bacon inside it? An educated, intelligent Muslim would (I think, I hope) merely shake his/her head in sad disappointment at the idiocy of such a move, just as I would if I saw a Bible burned in the same fashion with, I dunno, an inverted cross and pentagram painted on it.

I have no idea, and thus no prejudice, as to Ms. Barnhardt's qualifications in the financial world. Her observations regarding the market, the system, the institutions seem to me to be spot on. And I firmly believe her ideas and observations should be weighed on their merits, not on her religious views, her taste in firearm colors or choice of hairstyle.

BUT...

But man, this was just too much:

combined with her commentary:

"YOU CHRISTIAN MEN have allowed yourselves to be castrated such that you are now even more cowardly, weak and impotent than they are. Yes, that's right. I said it, and you better deal with it, fix it, and get it squared away before it is too late."

"I will fight islam and expose it as the satanic evil that it is until either I am dead, or islam has finally been exterminated from the face of the earth. There is no third option, so you see, it truly is going to have to be either you or me. This world isn't big enough for the both of us.

Cruce, dum spiro, fido, Deo duce, ferro comitante- 
Ann Barnhardt"

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 - 10:50pm
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Just some thoughts on

Just some thoughts on pyromaniacy and Ms. Barnhardt. 

Unless I was in a situation like in the movie The Day After Tomorrow where I was stranded in a public library and it was -275 degrees outside, I don't support burning books, especially books affiliated with gods and/or religions, because it's just not my style, and b) I don't think it accomplishes anything other than making a mess I'd have to pay someone else to clean up later. 

But what I do support, is the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution, which gives every citizen the right to destroy, deface, burn the living crap out of, crap on, crap off, crap in, or crap out of whatever inanimate objects they happen to own. 

If I personally owned, or sold an object that was very valuable or sacred to me, and a person who hated me went out and bought it, or bought a whole bunch of the objects and lit them on fire out in the desert, I would probably get mad, and I might even think they needed some professional help...but ultimately, I would have to respect that person's Constitutional Right to do it. 

It's called integrity, tolerance and the respect for the rights of your fellow citizens, even if you don't happen to agree with those people. Our country is the ONLY country in the world that has the right of free speech, free assembly and the right to bear arms in the process of doing so. I mean think about it. Do you really want a government (our screwed up government) dictating to you what you can, or can't do with all the inanimate objects that you own?...dictating to you what you can, or can't say?

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Here's my quirky theory on Ann...

I watched this video below where Ann rants against "Satanic Marxists" and goes on about how people shouldn't be "nice."

Barnhardt-Nice-10-03-2010.flv

On the one hand, I admire her spunk and her fearlessness. 

On the other, I think she's a bit crazy.

I have this theory. Let's say that Satan does exist. And maybe he is manipulating Islam! But maybe his purpose is to turn otherwise loving Christians into fanatical, foaming-the-mouth, Koran-burning haters like Ann Barnhardt? 

She's fallen right into Satan's trap!!

Well, it's just a thought. 

;-)

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