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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 - 10:06am
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9/11 Incontrovertible Proof the Government is Lying
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Might as well add this video too!!!...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRm8M-qOjQ

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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 - 10:52am
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What Aroused my Suspicions on 9/11

Was how quickly the MSM was able to find and post pictures of the alleged hijackers on the news.

I said to my wife at the time that shopping malls had security cameras with facial recognition technology available in 2001. If you were ever caught shoplifting a pack of gum and banned from the mall as a result, those cameras would be able to identity you if you ever tried to come back.

Why was that kind of technology being used in 2001 to protect shopping malls against the shoplifting of gum, but not used at airports to keep already known terrorists from boarding domestic airliners?

Of course, I say alleged hijackers because no one, not even bin Laden, was ever charged with the crimes.

Does that not seem odd too?

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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 - 11:04am
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If There was Rule of Law

Would you not require evidence before ordering an execution? https://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html

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Tue, Sep 17, 2013 - 2:08pm
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Skousen summary update

https://worldaffairsbrief.com MORE ON 9/11 INVESTIGATIONS Much as I distrust the news outlet Russia Today and their motives in supporting conspiracy theory (to undermine the USA in any way possible), they did put on the best of the 9/11 investigative reports and it is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Vi5YHxsLI Of particular interest is the statement by the mainstream American reporter that if she were to have presented any of this evidence to her US publication, the editor would have killed the story immediately—so trained are they against conspiracy facts. There has been a lot of other very good investigative films come out about 9/11 in the past 12 years. One of the best is a free five part series by Italian producer Massimo Mazzucco that is available to watch right on the web. https://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewartic... One nice feature of this series is the index which tells you where to find his coverage on any aspect of the investigation within the film so you don’t have to watch it all to research areas of special interest. His documentary also presents some of the newest and most technical film analysis of the Pentagon videos (how they edited out the plane so it wasn’t visible in one camera, but not the other which is blocked partially by a pillar) and address the official debunkers throughout the film, particularly the egregiously disingenuous ones like Popular Mechanics. Incredibly, however, I have yet to see one of the comprehensive new presentations on the Pentagon crash pick up on the one key witness testimony which saw the Pentagon jet hit the Pentagon and NOT penetrate. Shortly afterwards it disintegrates in a bright flash—indicative of high explosives. His testimony provides the only version that explains why there were no large pieces of the wreckage outside and very few parts remaining inside. This lack of plane wreckage has led many conspiracy theorists into believing there was no plane that hit the Pentagon. In reality there were two that struck. As I say in my “9/11 Update” at worldaffairsbrief.com, https://worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/9-11update.html First a key witness statement: Vin Narayanan said: “The hijacked jet slammed into the Pentagon at a ferocious speed. But the Pentagon's wall held up like a champ. It barely budged as the nose of the plane curled upwards and crumpled before exploding into a massive fireball.” The key item in this witness testimony is that the airplane hit but did not penetrate fully upon impact. For the one witness to register in his mind that “the wall held up” indicated that there was sufficient time for that action to settle BEFORE the actual or full explosion. That’s a very specific observation that can’t be a trick of the mind. Then there was a massive explosion with a white signature [see the Pentagon video]–meaning it was done with high explosives–sufficiently placed throughout the plane so that it disintegrated into thousands of tiny pieces, littering the parking lots and lawns with small bits. A fuel explosion simply doesn’t do this, nor does a terrorist bomb in a suitcase (which would leave large chunks of the aircraft intact–including major wing elements. I believe this plane was loaded along its entire length and in the wings with high explosives–which produced the disintegration and the white flame signature, unlike fuel which is only red and black. That’s also why there was a smell of cordite. That’s why the upper walls around the penetration collapsed later–the whole wall structure was shattered by the explosive force. This explosion might also explain why only some parts (one engine and some landing gear parts ended up inside the Pentagon. The explosion blew them forward into the building, while others were blown sideways and scattered. The government is covering up something. It claims, ridiculously, that the airplane got swallowed up inside the building and the aluminum was all burned up–which is just plain impossible given the size of the massive wing beams and the relatively low temperatures of burning fuel and debris. An alternate scenario presumes another smaller airplane preceded the airliner and shot a missile into the wreckage is more problematic, especially as to why. Maybe they wanted to test penetration of a missile into this new reinforced structure. But the parking lot video does show a missile presence. The portion of the larger airliner was edited out–perhaps because the leaker (a government employee risking his job) wanted the public to specifically take note of the smaller jet, which mostly missed the drama of the first crash and explosion. But the missile certainly would explain the deeper penetration into the 3 rings of the building, plus the presence of a large piece of the radome of the 757. The FBI admitted in their refusal of an FOIA request that they had video evidence from 85 cameras and they have refused to release them. If the government would quit hiding the other videos they possess of this crash, then we might have the whole story–but after this much cover-up that is unlikely. Massucco also missed the evidence from 9/11 Pilots for Truth about the radar tracks showing the hijacked planes doing the aerial switch with other airplanes—the only evidence that explains how these specially rigged remote-controlled aircraft replaced the actual hijacked planes before crashing into their targets. 9/11 MUSLIM TRUTHERS MARCH ON DC As Nick Wing wrote for the Huffington Post, the “Million Muslim March' Shaping Up To Be More Like A Few Hundred People Walking Down The Street.” Turns out it was more like 20 people [actually a few hundred]. The "2 Million Bikers" event, on the other hand, had a much larger turnout than initially expected. Organizers at the group American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) didn't exactly do a lot to engender sympathy for an event held on one of the most emotionally charged days of the year. The group is led by M.D. Rabbi Alam, a professed 9/11 truther who has pushed controversial anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the attacks. AMPAC's plans outraged conservative outlets earlier this year, though many cited the religion of the organizing group, rather than the fringe beliefs behind the event. It’s actually quite common in the 9/11 Truth movement to see people claiming that the Israeli Mossad was behind it—mostly based on the fact that a dozen or so Israeli illegals (working for the Urban Moving Company—an Israeli operation) were arrested after people reported them celebrating as the WTC towers were falling. They were then deported after interrogation without any explanation. The Israeli Mossad often works hand-in-glove with the dark side of the CIA in their illegal acts—especially in foreign countries, but given the size and complexity of the explosives work in three WTC buildings plus the modification of multiple aircraft for remote control and probably explosives, I find it implausible that the Israelis would be caught taking all the risk for this kind of false-flag operation. That they may have had a role in handling and training the hired hijackers, yes, but not the whole show. Organizers of the Million Americans Against Fear rally have defended the timing of their event by noting that "Muslim[s] and Non Muslim[s] alike were traumatized" on Sept. 11, 2001. AMPAC has insisted that the march will be about civil rights, indefinite detention and countering inaccurate depictions of Islam and Muslims. It also appears, however, that trutherism will still play a significant role; the DC Area 9/11 Truth Movement and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement are currently listed as partners. Although Mr. Wing denigrates the 9/11 truther element, he is correct that this Muslim group rightly believes that 9/11 was an inside job by the dark side of government, and that’s the real reason why the media didn’t give them much attention. It’s also why not many Muslims showed up in support, so embarrassed are they about 9/11 and all the bad publicity aimed at them as the false perpetrators. The media also failed to mention or take notice of the big billboard in Times Square asking “Did You Know a Third Tower Fell on 9/11? It was sponsored by https://www.rethink911.org and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth https://www.ae911truth.org/. It is surprising how many Americans in New York don’t know that WTC Building 7 fell that day. The media doesn’t like to emphasize this fact because the building is even more clearly brought down by controlled demolition than the first two, which the terrorists could never have accomplished.

Thu, Oct 10, 2013 - 5:40am
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Make your own mind up.

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