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Wed, Nov 5, 2014 - 3:40pm
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3 1/2 years and 42 months

Jer. Jr.: There are a huge amount of things to consider in your above post and I like them. One could first look up the following: Rev. 11:3, 12:6, 11:2, 13:5, 12:14, Daniel 7:25, 9:27, 12:7, 12:14, 12:11 and 12:12. We have been conditioned to view a seven year end times period but really do not think about many different 42 month periods. Some of them may have several fulfillments while happening over the same 42 months.

Then we have the concept from your post about the Lord doing His Work during His first coming and being about three and one half years. Yes, was that the first half of Daniels week? We also have that date you pointed out of April 14th, 2014. Was than an important date? Might be!

"If" the Church is informed by the Spirit that there is only 42 months left of Daniel's week, and they are still here, revival could finally break forth. jmo

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Wed, Nov 5, 2014 - 7:37pm
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@NW

Absolutely loved your last post and you see where I am going with this.

That was exactly my point. The tribulation period is split it in half, like a razor….. 1260 - 1260, forty two months, and forty two months, in numerous places in scripture. Why is that??

The beast also gets a shot at the world for 42 months. (Babylon/America under the UN)

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast”. Rev 17:12

This one hour prophetically, is also 3.5 years or 42 months.

Yet why Lord, split it into 3.5 and 3.5……????

Why is that???????? Has the first half seen fulfillment, are we going to resume right where we left off at the midpoint of the week so that no one will notice except those that are watching will know when we enter it???

What happens at the mid-point that is so radical???

Israel could have pronounced Jesus as there Messiah, are we going to resume the final ticks on the prophetic clock when the AC proclaims himself to be the god at the mid-point? Paralleling the same point in the final week when Israel rejected Jesus Christ as Messiah (God)? Hummmmm…..

As we see below, 1260 and 1260 is relevant; it indicates that he that makes it to the 1290 and 1335 is blessed, meaning that the average Joe that somehow makes it through ‘tribulation’ or ‘Great tribulation’ physically into the arrival of the physical Kingdom of God, in flesh and blood, and into THE Millennium or the Millennial reign of Christ on this earth, is blessed. (Not just lucky, but blessed)

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days”. (1290)

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” (1335) Dan 12:11-12.

This verse would explain the or any coming revival with regard to what is just ahead……

“Many shall be purified, and made white, (read white robes) and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Dan 12:10.

All that said, if the whole 70th week is ‘tribulation’ or ‘Great tribulation’, that blows all the above out of the water, and all this is just thinking out loud, and simply trying to reason it out from my (our) own studies.

I often do this because all the ‘great prophetic scholars’ that study this out, and for the most part are all too willing to tell us exactly how this will all go down, but yet can’t even yet identify America in Bible prophecy, they by in large don’t even know who the latter day Babylon is.

How clear really is their prophetic vision?

Best to go back to scripture for oneself…. Always.

Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 12:11am (Reply to #1159)
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More pondering!

The AC likes to copy everything that he can to be like the Lord but is a failure. Evil holidays have replaced feast days. Look at what stands on the temple mount. Jesus came riding on a donkey colt and this is a big event in the timing of all things.

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Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel

The scene now shifts from a private setting to a public setting. Given the tensions and expectations that have been growing (cf. 10:39-42; 11:46-57; 12:11), Jesus' entry into Jerusalem is very dramatic. By openly entering the city where he is a marked man he takes the first step toward the final confrontation.

Passover was one of the three feasts that Jews were supposed to attend in Jerusalem, and consequently the population of Jerusalem swelled enormously at this time. As this great crowd is beginning to gather from around Israel and the larger world of the diaspora, news about Jesus is spreading, and people are wondering whether he will come to the feast (11:55-56). On Sunday, the day after the party in Bethany at which Mary anointed Jesus, news arrives that Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem (v. 12), and a crowd of pilgrims, presumably those who had been wondering if he would come, goes out to meet him. Mary's private expression of emotion is now matched by the crowd's public outpouring of enthusiasm.

They shout Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! (v. 13). These are lines from one of the Psalms of Ascents (Ps 118:25-26) sung as a welcome to pilgrims coming up to Jerusalem. As such, this is an entirely appropriate thing to do as Jesus is coming up to Jerusalem. But there is more involved here. The cry of Hosanna! is a Hebrew word (hoshi`ah-na) that had become a greeting or shout of praise but that actually meant "Save!" or "Help!"

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See also John 12: 12-14.

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Who really knows what day that this event really happened? The AC wants to also enter Jerusalem and be seen and praised as the saving one for mankind but he is doomed. That could be the start of a 42 month period. Will the people on the street that day in Jerusalem and on the live feed from the net, shout out "save or help" as they make a wave offering of their lifted hands into the sky?

Yes Jer. Jr., you may have a view that had been hidden. jmo

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Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 9:17am
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STARTING AND FINISHING THE CLOCK WITH A WEDDING?

John 2:1-11Amplified Bible (AMP)

2 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

2 Jesus also was invited with His disciples to the wedding.

3 And when the wine was all gone, the mother of Jesus said to Him, They have no more wine!

4 Jesus said to her, [[a]Dear] woman, what is that to you and to Me? [What do we have in common? Leave it to Me.] My time (hour to act) has not yet come.

5 His mother said to the servants, Whatever He says to you, do it.

6 Now there were six waterpots of stone standing there, as the Jewish custom of purification (ceremonial washing) demanded, holding twenty to thirty gallons apiece.

7 Jesus said to them, Fill the waterpots with water. So they filled them up to the brim.

8 Then He said to them, Draw some out now and take it to the manager of the feast [to the one presiding, the superintendent of the banquet]. So they took him some.

9 And when the manager tasted the water just now turned into wine, not knowing where it came from—though the servants who had drawn the water knew—he called the bridegroom

10 And said to him, Everyone else serves his best wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then he serves that which is not so good; but you have kept back the good wine until now!

11 This, the first of His signs (miracles, wonderworks), Jesus performed in Cana of Galilee, and manifested His glory [by it He displayed His greatness and His power openly], and His disciples believed in Him [adhered to, trusted in, and relied on Him].


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There are some interesting things within the scriptures above. This is the place (time line) in which Jesus performed the "first" signs of miracles. Why then Jer. Jr.? Why at a wedding feast?? Preachers of the past say he was forced into doing it because of His wanting to help out the situation at the wedding. He started His time clock of coming out to the world at a wedding and will finish what He has looked for at the "final wedding" jmo!

We see above that the wedding was on the "third day", Jesus and His disciples were there, He said "what do we have in common" ( will all the guests that are there), the "manager" tested the wine and that good wine was used at the end of the wedding. ( I will not taste of the fruit of the vine until...........................................(timing)!

Well, it is possible that that last seven year period started at a wedding long ago and the clock stopped 42 months later. Who knows?

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Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 10:20am
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Third Day

Hos 6:2-After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 12:19pm
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@NW & Nana

Great points, the wedding may have been the start, he said his 'hour' (3.5) had not yet come, perhaps then or even Isaiah 61:1 ......and the finish will be a wedding also.

The third day would be the mellinium. (third 1000) since His birth

Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 12:31pm
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Times

AD 0-1000= 1 full day AD 1000-2000= 1 full day Isn't that 2 days, 2 full days? Wouldn't AD 2000 started the 3rd day? 2 Peter 3:8-But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Thu, Nov 6, 2014 - 8:11pm
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Short break from the prophetic

"I will pour water upon him that is thirsty."—Isaiah 44:3.

HEN a believer has fallen into a low, sad state of feeling, he often tries to lift himself out of it by chastening himself with dark and doleful fears. Such is not the way to rise from the dust, but to continue in it. As well chain the eagle's wing to make it mount, as doubt in order to increase our grace. It is not the law, but the gospel which saves the seeking soul at first; and it is not a legal bondage, but gospel liberty which can restore the fainting believer afterwards. Slavish fear brings not back the backslider to God, but the sweet wooings of love allure him to Jesus' bosom. Are you this morning thirsting for the living God, and unhappy because you cannot find him to the delight of your heart? Have you lost the joy of religion, and is this your prayer, "Restore unto me the joy of Thy salvation"? Are you conscious also that you are barren, like the dry ground; that you are not bringing forth the fruit unto God which He has a right to expect of you; that you are not so useful in the Church, or in the world, as your heart desires to be? Then here is exactly the promise which you need, "I will pour water upon him that is thirsty." You shall receive the grace you so much require, and you shall have it to the utmost reach of your needs. Water refreshes the thirsty: you shall be refreshed; your desires shall be gratified. Water quickens sleeping vegetable life: your life shall be quickened by fresh grace. Water swells the buds and makes the fruits ripen; you shall have fructifying grace: you shall be made fruitful in the ways of God. Whatever good quality there is in divine grace, you shall enjoy it to the full. All the riches of divine grace you shall receive in plenty; you shall be as it were drenched with it: and as sometimes the meadows become flooded by the bursting rivers, and the fields are turned into pools, so shall you be—the thirsty land shall be springs of water.

https://www.spurgeon.org/morn_eve/this_morning.cgi

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