End Point? Or Peak?

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#1 Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 3:20am
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End Point? Or Peak?

There are 5 billion people on the planet today who did not exist, at the dawn of the oil age and they exist only because of oil and natural gas. It is solely the fact that hydro carbon energy, specifically internal combustion engines, amonium based fertilizers made from petroleum, that has allowed the human population to expand in just a little over 130 years. 

Human population was fairly stable at just under 1 1/2 - 2 billion people, from the time of Christ until oil was discovered. There was a slight dip for the bubonic plague, a slight increase as the beginnings of the industrial revolution came along with steam and coal.

It was not until the discovery and use of oil that the human population skyrocketed. Current world population sits at approximately 7 billion people. From a simple arithmetic stand point, if you look at the numbers, essentially 5 billion people too many are living on this planet today, who are not sustainable by any other means.

What happens when the oil runs out? First the dwindling supplies will become very expensive. Wars will be fought over what remains. Remember, 2 billion people for 2,000 years. Then WHAM! Oil. The above synopsis is taken from a History Channel presentation with Mike Ruppert.

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Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 7:32am
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no one cares are they think

no one cares are they think it's a conspiracy. They can't do the math. PLEASE go comment on the Peak Oil Thread in the Oil forum. Some of the comments are ridiculous.

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There are 5 billion people on the planet today who did not exist, at the dawn of the oil age and they exist only because of oil and natural gas. It is solely the fact that hydro carbon energy, specifically internal combustion engines, amonium based fertilizers made from petroleum, that has allowed the human population to expand in just a little over 130 years. 

Human population was fairly stable at just under 1 1/2 - 2 billion people, from the time of Christ until oil was discovered. There was a slight dip for the bubonic plague, a slight increase as the beginnings of the industrial revolution came along with steam and coal.

It was not until the discovery and use of oil that the human population skyrocketed. Current world population sits at approximately 7 billion people. From a simple arithmetic stand point, if you look at the numbers, essentially 5 billion people too many are living on this planet today, who are not sustainable by any other means.

What happens when the oil runs out? First the dwindling supplies will become very expensive. Wars will be fought over what remains. Remember, 2 billion people for 2,000 years. Then WHAM! Oil. The above synopsis is taken from a History Channel presentation with Mike Ruppert.

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Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 8:07am (Reply to #2)
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silversalmon wrote:no one

silversalmon wrote:

PLEASE go comment on the Peak Oil Thread in the Oil forum.

Just to make sure people are pointed in the right direction, it's the Peak Oil thread in the Energy forum. There is no "Oil" forum.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forums/energy

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/peak-oil/69

Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 8:24am (Reply to #3)
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Sorry captain! I realized and

Sorry captain! I realized and came back to make the correction, and you're on top of it! Thanks!

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silversalmon wrote:

PLEASE go comment on the Peak Oil Thread in the Oil forum.

Just to make sure people are pointed in the right direction, it's the Peak Oil thread in the Energy forum. There is no "Oil" forum.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forums/energy

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/peak-oil/69

Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 8:47am
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Incorrect.  You can feed just

Incorrect. You can feed just about as many people as you want with the proper application of capital. Look up aquaculture. There is a group in Michigan (I think) that produces HUGE amounts of food using only a few solar panels to run a few pumps.

People who squeal about the end of the world and "fundamental limits" for humanity don't understand economics. Period.

Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 11:44am
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Titanic

I really do chuckle when reading the comments to this post.

They add nothing to the core subject. Most deal with moving deck chairs about, or what and who belongs to which cabin. Makes no difference since we are all on the same ship and it's slowly sinking.

Sorry for not getting the right deck, the one specific cabin and the right color deck chair!

Mon, Jul 11, 2011 - 4:10pm (Reply to #6)
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What does anything matter to

What does anything matter to a peak oil narcissist? 

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