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AGIXX I don't think we are moving through an energetic space

We are through & moving into a clear space. Hence no sunspots, less friction & cold. It is affecting all of our local neighbours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=248&v=nsqZJP54shg

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argentus maximus wrote:  (on

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- Happy Now - you spoke about dickishness and general badass attitude. Does Cernovich have a greater following than you? What does the crowd really require? Does a balanced person choose to be another kind of person to "pull the crowd away from their current attention focus" Did JC himself talk about controversial things, in new and controversial ways ... during his "marketing and growth" phase? What does it take/ Remember the people elect the leaders they deserve ... and that reflect (or project) their own weaknesses. Powerful ego reaches and touches lesser ego. Conversion. Recruitment. Dicipline. Control.  Volunterism. All with the consent of the governed! There's a reason why pirate movies are popular.

AM, yes I noted dickishness seemed to come with the territory.  Adams has it.  The Gurdjieff leaders have it (when they are ‘on’, and some are always ‘on’), shaman can be.  Also I muse that it is about persuasion, or influence, but also has defensiveness as a component.  And yes JC for all the compassion and understanding was at times harsh with followers, although he (or they)  tended to explain or give context for it.

If one had examined  the posts of NW VIEW one can get really good insight to the mechanics and possibly the motives (but I am not going to say why).

I am as influential as I like and choose to lead in that way seldom, unless I get really passionate, or as part of a role or being paid to do it.  I had gone about things that way at one time but then found myself frustrated with many of my followers.  I seek friends, not followers these days and prefer to have diverse thoughts and attitudes around me.

My objection to the style is that it is not so effective for education or enlightenment!  When I listen I have to keep mentally editing out bits.   If the purpose is not education or enlightenment that’s fine, but then I am less likely to participate.  I get to have an opinion, and choose.

It also makes me want to understand the speakers agenda better, and that can be very distracting.

I think the observation stands.

I’d like to share another concept.  This applies when listening in a group which contains members at different levels of understanding or motive. There are times when the speakers message is not meant for ‘you’.  I have to use this on myself and I share it with all, it can reduce misunderstanding.   Is this message meant for ‘you’?

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argentus maximus wrote:how

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how or why did I start looking at his videos at a certain time and not consistently watch them? eg did I ever mention him before other than possibly in passing when talking about something else? To ripoff Dylan, there's something going on here Mr Jones and you don't know what it is"
 

Ahhhhh....... that was the first question that went through my mind. 

Why is AM posting Mike Cernovich???   That was way outside your online persona.  Of course, I thought about going back and looking at when he appeared (what was going on), his active time as MAGA supporter, and what's happening now.   I've seen you do this before to take a measurement.    The disappearance of Peter Schiff and the gold conference as an indicator of change of sentiment.   I didn't want to be rude and ask you, why are you following Mike Cernovich.

I'll ask what I'm missing about your Jonathan Swift post but I might as well finish looking at some of the stuff I downloaded.  1699 took me all sorts of places including a site by Raymond Wheeler on Earthquake activity in the USA since 1699.  Why did he choose that date?  I need to look at what was happening in Swift's world at that time to understand the egg analogy.  We kind of skipped over that in high school English class.  Alot more to Jonathan Swift, who I have quoted from time to time, than I had realized.

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Vanguard Funds announced that

Vanguard Funds announced that in September it will rename it's gold fund to "Precious Metal & Mining Fund" to "Global Capital Cycles Fund". Its strategy will shift from 80% miners, 20% PM to 25% miners 75% broad global stock market. https://investor.vanguard.com/mutual-funds/precious-metals-changes. 

Is changing a name a nudge? 

So like Cernovich, Like Peter Schiff, Like Gold Conference, I asked why the change NOW? Am I being "NUDGED"?

All sorts of narratives going on.   At it's been yonks before I've read any narratives about gold on a metals forum.  

Here's two interesting ones.  

http://www.epsilontheory.com/how-gold-lost-its-luster-how-the-all-weather-fund-got-wet-and-other-just-so-stories/

https://orientalreview.org/2014/12/25/grandmaster-putins-trap/

August gold seems stuck in a box... Not a metaphorical box.... Maybe more like a tunnel?   180-240 degree tunnel

240=.666   180=.50

Where have I seen 666 discussed before?

It's been a long time since Dr. J wrote an article on the main page about gold.   Not much opportunity in these parts to pan gold.  But I've been known to forage herbs in city parks.  (shhhhh!)

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Happy Now,If ever you should

Happy Now,

If ever you should encounter Scott Adams being a dick, I would profoundly appreciate you pointing it out.  Because I've missed it.  Could be I'm not paying attention or I'm seeing it in a different way.  

Mark Twain, Jonathan Swift, and George Carlin could be major dicks.   (I'm not putting Adams in that category) All three had perceptions that I don't see most human's displaying.

I did notice an air of indignation in Cernovich's video.   The get with the program type indignation. 

I've been watching some of Styxenhammers video's.  Guy makes like 6 video's a day.  So I pick and choose depending on the subject matter and not everyday.   He's such a potty mouth sometimes.  Could be the crass NYer in me because it makes me giggle.    And not all of it rises to the level of compelling.  A couple times he called me an asshole (not directly) but by virtue that I wasn't looking at things that he was pointing out were obvious and yelling, "Can't you see...Man"   I suppose if I had internalized it, I might call him a dick. 

So it's unclear to me what you are hearing/ experiencing when you watch some of these guys.

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Well said. My point is that

Well said.

My point is that we are seeing enlightenment for the masses, or those of the masses who wish to see and choose it. It is in a form more tailored to what can work, which is a new form, more trashy than seems appropriate upon first glance, but logical given the target market.

Whether that market contains enough real interest remains to be seen. My experience says that the vast majority simply don't want to know. But there will be some, and that should have benefits, if they get above the selfish ego ceiling. it can be an eg Alinsky andidote. If they don't learn altruism it will be  a higher level of Alinskey - to characterise it in just that one way for conversation purposes. There are lots of ways naturally.

Agree that mentally editing out parts and taking parts is work, but necessary since its not on a single level.

This is Cernovich moving past politicking and getting back to his main track I think. He could return later with fresh aims.

My comment about "supporters" was not personal, and I know you saw that. It was to illustrate the leverage of numbers of followers requires a multi level approach. Cernovich bootstrapped his post book writing career by generating a following. How much of the politics element was to milk media attention we will never know.

Crowd seduction technique is how I regard it. the pirate, the moor (of Shakespeare), the bad boy, good looking tough guy from the wrong side of the tracks - these are all ingredients in that technique. (Note Cerno's repeated reminders about his appearance). Nothing new there, but still needs saying because people forget.

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Green Lantern wrote:... Why

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... Why is AM posting Mike Cernovich???   That was way outside your online persona. 

I saw it coming in something he said earlier. So I would then occasionally check what the current output of such a person was. Like an oil dipstick check in an engine once a month. I came back on the first video I posted the link for. Which surprised me. He went far beyond mere Gorilla Mindset with that simulation explanation to his followers (and that was after he translated into their vocabulary and thought patterns. That end product (for the public) is watered down and would approximate but not precisely be his personal take.

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... Why did he choose that date? I. need to look at what was happening in Swift's world at that time to understand the egg analogy.  We kind of skipped over that in high school English class.  A lot more to Jonathan Swift, who I have quoted from time to time, than I had realized.

  That's where I am too.  I made sense of the date, and know what happened personally him to others and others to him.  I'll bet he was a covert occult student, alchemy in particular. But maybe some other alternative route got him aware. A person who brought him on possibly.

I need to read through all his writings ...... More books onto the reading list. I won't mention how big that list is at the moment.

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What I like about

What I like about Styxhexenhammer666 is that when he gets on form, it is so free flowing. A modern day Twain-ite, Marx (as Groucho) fan maybe with a bit of Wilde stirred in. A bit more lyrical and it could become poetry! I admire the way he puts things/his take when he is in his groove.

Sort of humourously, sardonically, scathingly dismissive of the doltish alliances' best attempts to control him, things, the world, while  they at the exact same time can't understand anything, even the obvious. See I can do it too, but I don't often!

Styx is fun.

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argentus maximus wrote: I

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I need to read through all his writings ......

That's where the thought stream took me.....I gotta read more.   Any analogies between a Modest Proposal and Trump?

If you remove this individuals liberal bias, which I have to do with astrology all the time,  do some of the analogies hold water?  A modest proposal....

https://betterlivingthroughbeowulf.com/if-swift-had-known-donald-trump/

Styx-Twain's sharp commentary on the absurdity of the political and human condition (same as Swift) without the pipe, rocking chair, suit and tie replaced with a fetish for leather without a shirt.  Maybe the unkempt hair of twain was replaced with the long rocker look.  Swift is a bit more "Alice in Wonderland" in a 60's psychedelic way.

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Tired of Swift?  Maybe it's

Tired of Swift?  Maybe it's time to go Dickens.  A Tale of Two Cities...

Madame Defarge aka Ms. Warren is just more upfront about it than the mule.   

How much is facebook worth? Twitter?   Looks like they meet the criteria. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaycoengilbert/2018/08/15/sen-elizabeth-warren-republicans-ceos-blackrocks-fink-unite-around-accountable-capitalism/#2e714a9951d9

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Whoaa...... Now this is the

Whoaa......

Now this is the kind of commentary I like.  Even if he is wrong, and I'm not convinced he is right but willing to consider this narrative.   Styx  is willing to step out of the binary narrative and look at things from a different lense. 

Omarosa and Rosie O'Donnel actually are working with Trump.  It's a setup that actually works in favor of Trump and Omarosa is happy to play the stooge (prostitute) but that would change the saboteur archetype to something else.

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I have no proof of either. Not do I know anyone else who does. The only thing I know for sure is that he is the reason we all know as much as we do. How or why he did that is unknown to me. But I'm thankful for men like him. Who risk their lives to bring info to the public. Make no doubt Assange will pay dearly for what he's done. He already has and so has Snowden. 

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I purposely didn't watch the Cerno videos because of my previous acquaintance with him. We weren't friends but he worked on a film with a friend of mine. He worked with people I knew. Thus I owe him a clear mind. A fresh start based on the comments here. Presently my head is cluttered and I want to approach his new material as tho I never knew a thing about him. Moreover, I won't look at him. I'll just listen. 

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My supposition:

during his time campaigning, he got exposed to some of the tricks being played on the normies by the caste above them. Then from the bits he saw, being a clever guy, and a mindset guy, he figured a lot more out by himself.

(A few words in his video are reminiscent of phrases Karl Rove said a longer time ago.)

And Cernovich talks about it. Listen and learn while you can. It's a Carroll Quigley moment.

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I purposely didn't watch the Cerno videos because of my previous acquaintance with him. We weren't friends but he worked on a film with a friend of mine. He worked with people I knew. Thus I owe him a clear mind. A fresh start based on the comments here. Presently my head is cluttered and I want to approach his new material as tho I never knew a thing about him. Moreover, I won't look at him. I'll just listen. 

I've been home less than two weeks after half a year away and I'm flying out tomorrow for a few days. I can't switch from mode to mode like you guys can. I wish I could but I can't. But I owe him a clean slate. 

As for the Jews I spent ten years in their world. I've had five fathers. Three were Jews. It may sound like I hate them but I don't. They are a 100 Xs more vicious to one another than to Gentiles. I've seen them do unspeakable acts of cruelty and also incredible acts of kindness and charity. I have a theory on them with no proof. I believe hitler killed all the sane ones. But they do operate differently than most cultures. Most noticeably is they will do biz with another hated jew before going outside their own. Also interesting is their greatest acts of charity are to Gentiles. 

I will say this and stand by it. From all appearance they seem to be of a much I higher IQ than the rest of the population. I just know I use extra caution dealing with them. I make sure they believe they are getting a deal. They expect a discount from me and I'm expected to make up the shortfall by the quality and volume of stock they send to me. 

My old boss was Jewish too. You would never know it. He the kindest most honest man I ever met. He's still angry at me for lighting up a horse before I left for nz against his old antagonist. He knows I did it cuz of him. But he's now told me 345 times don't blame him for what I did. And that he can never trust me as he used to. If he wanted to beat him like that he didn't need me to do it. I told him but I needed to do it. He said exactly... I needed to. Anyhoo I'm staying with him in Saratoga so he doesn't hate me. 

But I remain torn and unsure of so many things. I want to run but I have to tiptoe. I've seen the best and worst and remain unsure. But I never regretted NOT  selling those pics or recordings. I know he forgives me but won't admit it cuz he doesn't want me going to hell. If he even hints it was ok. He knows I'll do it again. 

I am every bit as confused/ torn as I was at 14 is the only thing I'm sure of.  In fact I think I know less. But I'm giving Cerno a second shot. 

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Good afternoon...

There's more than enough disinformation and propaganda  to  go around these days, it's gotten to the point where carving out a narrative that is actually relevant becomes challenging.

AGX…

I checked out Dutchsinse and his forecast models on YouTube. It looks like great stuff, and yes, he does have a track record.

I couldn't help but notice that his model has the earth ringing like a bell, particularly as the waves tend to congregate to the opposite side of the planet.

He sure is pissing off a lot of Flat Earthers!

I haven't as of yet heard anybody use this to support a hollow earth narrative, but in my opinion, that's exactly what it does.

He's using a plate tectonics model, theorizing that the continents are in motion, but as best as I can tell, his findings will also be consistent with an earth that is growing.

I don't want to be an alarmist, since generally speaking, I'm not that much of a worry wart.

That being said, there are some genuine concerns as it pertains to California.

Euphemistically speaking, it would appear that both the devil and God are conspiring to destroy it.

By the devil, I'm basically talking the evil cabal, with policies that are designed to create implosions everywhere, between piss poor land management,

Collapsing infrastructure, sheer stupidity amongst the human cattle, what some people considered poor planning, I consider planning for disaster.

What I mean by that, is carefully planning for disastrous consequences with every decision made. Although this is a worldwide phenomenon, which is the result of placing the evilest amongst us in charge of policy, California seems to be on the cutting edge of policymakers with demonic possession.

By "god", I'm referring to mother nature, as I did in my previous posts. The "authorities" seem to have a vested interest in mass casualty events, as they seem to have figured out how to profit from them. So, I wouldn't expect a heads up from many "Official” sources.

Again, California is a mere microcosm of a global phenomenon.

Anonymous got into the act today, documenting a series of cataclysms in California, with more to come.

It covers a lot in 11 minutes:

It's primarily focused on the "shake and bake” narrative.

I'd like to say a word about some of the narratives that seem somewhat arrogant and bombastic, as I actually have some experience with this.

Considering what circumstances we are living under, waking the sleeping masses up from their slumber, probably can't be accomplished with sweettalk.

The truth is harsh, and the truth is combative.

That's just the way it is, if people want to maintain their denial, their only other options when confronted with truth, is to either ignore, or attack.

Since I am relatively well-versed in substantiating the positions I take, I prefer to be attacked then ignored.

Yeah, thats right.

When I construct a narrative concerning government, religion or banking, I tend to use the most vulgar and combative terminology I can imagine, because it is so much harder to ignore.

And then, when those who choose to engage in combat with me come forward, I will surgically decapitate any official narrative they choose to regurgitate.

I've heard you catch more flies with honey, but I have opted for a sledgehammer.

Here's the style I like: 

 well worth your 12 minutes.

It gets noticed.

That's the point.

It's not for ego, and it's not out of arrogance. There is a message that needs to be spread, and I do wish to diminish the likelihood that I will be ignored upfront.

Hopefully, this can explain why I choose the metaphors and euphemisms that I do.

This also explains why I characterize authority figures in such an incredibly disdainful manner.

It either hits the target, or it bounces off, but if it's going to hit, I want it to hit deep. If it was going to bounce off anyway, I still want to hit it as hard as fucking possible.

Yes, this also applies to my verbiage.

As far as the sometimes baseless accusations of people being a part of the deep state, this may be a distinction without any practical difference.

Let  me use my dear dad as an example:

# he believes it is a moral obligation to follow every official dictate, code, and ordnance some piece of shit legislator pulled out of his asshole.

# he believes that paying taxes is a moral obligation.

# he believes that jury duty is a moral obligation.

# he believes that voting is a moral obligation.

# he believes that keeping all money in the bank is somehow a moral obligation, he can't exactly explain why.

# he believes that "you have to do what your doctor tells you to do”.

# he believes that most cops are good people.

# he believes that most soldiers are good people.

# he believes that it is a moral obligation to attend Weekly church services.

# he only accepts what is on the evening news as truthful.

# he only excepts what is taught in academia as truthful.

# he believes that people who do not participate in the system, are not paying their fair share.

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Anybody with this system of beliefs, is an enemy to individual liberty, and in essence, an enemy to humanity.

He considers himself a failure for not instilling these beliefs in his progeny, (me),

He is horrified at my style of parenting.

In his world view, results are irrelevant. The only thing that's important, is repeating the official narrative perfectly.

As far as I am concerned, the only thing that disqualifies him from being a full blown deep state troll, is that he works for free, out of his miss-placed sense of moral obligation.

At 85 years old, I suspect he's never had an original thought in his entire life.

At this point, he isn't even capable of it.

This is an example of a lost soul who thinks he chooses to remain that way.

I consider his ability to choose anything to have been successfully removed from him in his childhood.

This is the way most people have been raised, and live,

And the fact that anyone is waking up at all, it Is truly amazing.

It's an exciting time to be alive,

And I am doing what I can to bring about the changes that are needed.

Be the change you desire.

Maintaining my own individual liberty wherever, and whenever possible, and then, being the power of example,

is a strategy I employ daily.

It does wake a lot of people up.

The rest I avoid. There is simply no point in making myself a target of some "do-gooder”  who as a fully indoctrinated moron thinks it's their "Civic duty” to make the authorities aware of my noncompliance.

It's like threading a needle between flying under the radar, and shouting from the rooftops.

I know, I'm just preaching to the choir now.

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argentus maximus wrote: My

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My supposition:

during his time campaigning, he got exposed to some of the tricks being played on the normies by the caste above them. Then from the bits he saw, being a clever guy, and a mindset guy, he figured a lot more out by himself.

(A few words in his video are reminiscent of phrases Karl Rove said a longer time ago.)

And Cernovich talks about it. Listen and learn while you can. It's a Carroll Quigley moment.

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”   Karl Rove

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 "Quigley found a cause of the fall of civilizations in the gradual transformation of social "instruments" into "institutions," that is, transformation of social arrangements functioning to meet real social needs into social institutions serving their own purposes regardless of real social needs.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/5307/interesting-people-prof-carroll-quigley-and-his-legacy

http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf

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they are mining the fuck out of Afghanistan. That why they are kicking our asses and able to buy hardware to kill our boys 

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Fix, a large portion of the

Fix, a large portion of the bay area is built in fill and sedimentary soils. A larger earthquake will cause liquefaction of these soils and we will see plenty of issues with structures which haven't put foundation caissons deep enough to support these structures. The apartment building with the 16"s of settling is just one example of poorly engineered and built structures waiting for large seismic activity.

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