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Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 6:55am
New Zealand
Joined: Sep 3, 2011

The meeting

Donald is about to make the world a better place.

He is not as stupid as the collectivist flakes think he is.

Donald and Poot will be great mates and the doomsday clock will need to be reset.


In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 6:56am (Reply to #23542)
Joined: Jun 15, 2011

stackaloha wrote: Dude I’m

stackaloha wrote:

Dude I’m not very good at metrics lol

and I think it’s probably safe to assume you are not good at old fashion d “imperial” type measurements? Tbh I’m not even sure that what it’s called 

I’m just a dirt people buddy

i hear you though 

ladies like us tall guys

i hate to tell you this but I’m guessing I’m a bit taller and bigger buddy so don’t brag to me!

i hope you find a nice girl who wants a family

im not trying to overstep here

but wouldn’t it be good for you, and your country

all the best man

For you and Sweden!

I imagine you're incredibly handsome too! 

My friend is actually taking me to a Brujas so I can attract the girl of my dreams. It never hurts to try everything once. 

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:11am (Reply to #23536)
paia, HI
Joined: Jan 2, 2014

Solsson wrote: stackaloha

Solsson wrote:
stackaloha wrote:

solsson You post well

Tx Stackaloha smiley I have never had anything against you, Rex and IRB you guys always treated me with respect. Ok an initial controversy with Rex when he attacked Argentus. I've been kicked out of several forums. Now I know how to behave. I can be just as bad as everyone else, but it takes the energy out of you so it's not worth the effort.

Good looking women. That is one thing that has changed for the better in recent years. I get a little bit more attention from younger Swedish women nowadays laugh it is as they feel that we are being replaced, that something is wrong. As a 6.3 110kg 50year old ghost white Viking maybe they see you as a good catch hahahaha.

i have nothing to add tbh

i just think this is is very interesting and telling post. 

A first hand perspective on the initial phase of “attempted demographic replacement”

inside a relatively small beautiful country 

if you weren’t white they would call what they are attempting genocide 

we all need to speak up

i hope you don’t mind me posting this Solsson

these are crazy times because (IMO) the world is going to go full on nationalist in first world and second world countries too I would guess 

not over night

gotta fight the good fight no matter​​​​​​​

time will tell

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:16am (Reply to #23543)
paia, HI
Joined: Jan 2, 2014


the world is about to get Trumped!

im glad we can agree about that!

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:17am
New Zealand
Joined: Sep 3, 2011

Her Majesty felt let down though


In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:19am
New Zealand
Joined: Mar 7, 2013

Earth changes

Earthquake, Storms, Ice, CO2 & Plant Nutrition | S0 News Jul.16.2018

has some good background vids linked below

What are cosmic rays: 3-4 minutes

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Well worth watching if you haven't seen them yet

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:26am (Reply to #23544)
paia, HI
Joined: Jan 2, 2014

Awesome GL

you said:

“I imagine you're incredibly handsome too! 

My friend is actually taking me to a Brujas so I can attract the girl of my dreams. It never hurts to try everything once. “


I’m glad you’re gunna try girls once!

i think you’re gunna like it!

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:28am
Joined: Jan 20, 2013

This is the whole thing I

This is the whole thing I have been talking about and still nobody gets it.

I mentioned Marty Leeds and people look straight through what he does well and they zoom in on what he does not do so well, which is fine, but this is not the way to use a source of rare information.

At a murder investigation do the police ask the witnesses what they had for breakfast that day, and was it a mistake to choose that food, or do they ask what happened to the victim?


1/golden ratio divided by golden ratio squared.

actually 23.6 at one decimal accuracy


23.6 happens to be almost double of the sacred number 12, and if doubled repeatedly will eventually come out at 377 which is the 14th Fibonacci number.


I have said many times that numbers matter. With Marty Leeds LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

Solsson has a tiger by the tail. He keeps on bringing it up again. Why? He just decided to test out something I showed him, and he sees recurrence. Now he is used to this he can look deeper. What will he see next?

Solsson: I confronted AM about it in Setup but he went silent. From a post here in DOTS I am positive that he is a sphere believer. The thing about shutting down Marty Leeds YT was all about the video "We must talk about the jews". His YT channel is still alive or if it's a new one called Marty Leeds live.

Not sure what you asked, I must have missed it. Drop me an email and I'll answer.

Leeds has been reported, or got strikes before. He poked the Israeli hornets nest with his video compilation of Jewish people of influence or power speaking about those who trust them wisely or unwisely. What comes as a result of his video concerning power can be expected, so a strike this time can be ascribed to that.

But the previous strikes he received, those I have not researched for political provocation by him, and I assumed it was due to religious zealots of both Christian and Jewish origin objecting to an alternate way of looking at the works they like to interpret literally and simplistically as taught while children. 

This is why he as a source may not be long for YT.

What he has available is however rare and you know about it. It is in video, rather than written in an olde worlde english 17th century text about alchemy where the script is so old the "s" looks like an "f". Use it or don't as you see fit.


I have taken DOTS to the door and knocked on it for you.

But the alternate force says let's talk about how to insult people better .......,. pick a fight if we can ...... and everybody then does exactly that. While talking loftily about how low is the place other peoples' minds are in!

So here is what Leeds does. He uses a totally different technique, numerology-linguistics, and somehow comes up with the same results as eg the financial markets, the Bible, the esoterica. AND THIS GETS IGNORED?

Why does it work? Why the same results? How can different languages come up with the same kabbalistic solutions? What do those results mean?

What is squaring the circle about, and is Marty Leeds correct in his conclusions about that? Do you accept his findings? If he happened to come to a correct but "wrong" conclusion, one that is still part of the shell game, the 13th, or 23rd or 89th or 144th wrapper removed before the final wrapper and the great reveal, would you have seen that for what it is? Would you (A) then look inside that thin remaining tissue concealing .... what great truth? Or would you (B) say "that Marty Leeds stuff is interesting to AM because he's into numbers but of no immediate value to me" and walk away.

It's all been brought here in front of you ...... even the answer to the unasked question of the original poster of DOTS...

If it's like this here already what will the place be like by mid September?


@Silver66: You channeled Marty Leeds on flat earth debate-ability within people and then properly asked something like - Why can't we discuss flat earth? - rather than or as well as - Is it flat? -

(My personal answer would be I had a telescope and looked past the moon at the other bodies, as above so below. The longer "years" than the calendar year inform me. Also the Season inversions and long arctic circle day/night. However I think much of the "problem" is related to the unexplained nature of gravity by science using three dimensional orthodox physics)

There is something emotive that arises. But if people get irritated, this might not be necessarily cognitive dissonance. For example, if the person in the queue in front of you stops at the turnstile to the subway and starts to talk about anything, don't you get irritated at the uselessness of their moment of indecision wasting your time? If I ask whether sleds would be better than wheels, it might be fair to say that there is an engineering cause related to the degree of lubricicity of snow compared to dry roadways. But if somebody got exasperated with me for going that far down the tree of assumptions and request them to build it all back up again with citations and references I would not blame them.

Now I am aware that this precise problem DOES exist in society. There ARE errors built into the edifice of historic assumptions. Lies placed in the body of public knowledge. And those DO affect us all to our detriment.

So I ask you this in return: What is a reasonable criteria to apply to yourself while asking a normie to throw away accumulated "knowledge about how life works" and reconsider it from the ground up with your new idea built into the fresh social construct?

An example I say - religions are to control us - and my wife replies - but they teach the kids morality and look what the growth of atheism has done. We are better off with religion and the sense of community it brings - . So the bad has been attached subtly to the good, wilfully by bad parties of the past. The poison is inside a piece of good food. How do you suggest we begin to work our way forwards out of this fiendish setup, seeing as only numbers of followers can ever make it possible and the present state of honest information (currently writing the knowledge base of future society) is quite precarious?

Such a small questions! But it is a big sticking point and your thoughts would be most welcome.

argentus maximus Rhythm and Price https://www.greenhobbymodel.com/rhythmnprice.html This analysis - global markets
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 7:28am (Reply to #23544)
New Zealand
Joined: Mar 7, 2013

Err aren't you maried/partenered to a lovely asian GL?

Wrath in store?

<edit> Hide the cleavers! </edit>

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 8:14am
paia, HI
Joined: Jan 2, 2014

It’s Putin Day

USSR is gone

I hope the first meeting with Putin goes well

im praying and hoping for a new era!

even if it’s a challenge

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 9:08am (Reply to #23550)
paia, HI
Joined: Jan 2, 2014


i have no idea who Marty Leeds is

i probably wasn’t around at the time the original information was posted

I guess I’ll search him out and see

As far as what September will look like?

im guessing it’ll be a bit crazier than now 

might even be able to shake one of the “migrant mamas” by then

nationalism is rightfully on the rise now

it'll be a bit more painful by September

that’s my point

and it’ll be glorious

nothing good comes easy unless you’re very lucky

I’ll look him up though. Thx

The Right Honorable Lord Stack Esq. Ruler Of All Realms, Protector Of His Subjects, Defender Of The Faith and Supreme Imperial Regent.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 9:38am
I Run Bartertown
Joined: Oct 11, 2011

scales falling away?

Did something happen here at DOTS?

Stack - are you Gandalf? It's like suddenly the men of Rohan are looking at Wormtongue for the first time and seeing his blatant lies and manipulation. Is the whispering in the ear failing?

Image result for wormtongue

Gandalf frees Theoden

ata - Since the topic right now is Lyin' GL, I may as well say something I've wanted to, to you. I always liked you. GL convinced you (I think) that I had said something terrible about you, but it was directly from a quote I posted (as in look at this jerk talking about us)... not my words ... it was the peckerwood guy who was friends with DPH and GL. I remember telling you it was not true, and I thought you knew ... but GL kept needling away over time ... and I think the lie might have become 'DOTS own truth'. It was engineered by GL and then referred back to over time as if it were true ... kind of like how he fabricated a gun threat, never addressed the lie, but still was bold enough to use his own lie as evidence to the next thing ...'ruff, you already had to ask them to stop [doing something I lied and said they did]. They can't be reasoned with.' 

Anyway ata, not trying to get all touchy feely on ya ... don't wanna make the sheeps jealous cheeky. But you da man, ata.

GL - the dialogue 'rules' (about punctuation in one's own work, not theft of another's work) are for if you are an author writing original dialogue, and you know this. And 'Most Americans' could not identify Conrad as an author at all, let alone that he's the author of his more famous work Heart of Darkness... to suggest that his even more obscure work is 'assumed knowledge' or even in common usage, is patently absurd. And you know that too. You know that if anyone here were so inclined they could pull dozens more examples of you pawning ideas and text off as your own. You are a plagiarist, but that's the least of your issues. 

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 9:51am (Reply to #23438)
Joined: Apr 21, 2011

Here's how this works

You all get to keep your forum only if you self-moderate and keep it within the bounds of TFMR policy.

To that end, I Run Bartertown has now lost posting privilege. IRB has been a longtime member of TFMR but creating seven different new user accounts in an attempt to clog the site and effect opinion is simply unacceptable. See below:

Stackaloha is NOT the same person as IRB and, as such, remains a full, active member of TFMR.

Again, play nice and reinforce the policies that make TFMR unique or this forum and all the rest will cease to exist.

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 10:21am
Joined: Nov 3, 2011


Thank you for your posts. They are a delight and filled with insight.

Does the Big Bang theory make sense to you in your study of cycles?

Where did that "peach sized ball" come from which everything emanated from?

The reason I ask is to me, since there are cycles, where is the starting point?

If the universe is supposedly expanding outward from the source of the big bang at a steady rate, what holds this galaxy together?

It is said meditation is good for the soul, it's also a source of multitudes of questions with no concrete answers for me.

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:04am
Joined: Oct 8, 2012

Politics and understanding our mind

read the material below that I received from Richard Rohr today and it might help explain why people are challenged with politics...because they are challenged with themselves.

Let's get back on Track !! a little conspiracy, a little whoo whoo, some reptiles and unseen planetary forces never hurt anyone and breaks up the monotony of life :-)

Service Instead of Domination
Monday, July 16, 2018

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. —2 Corinthians 13:13

Without the nondual mind, it’s almost impossible for us to find another way of doing politics. Grounding social action in contemplative consciousness is not a luxury for a few but a cultural necessity. Both the Christian religion and American psyche need deep cleansing and healing from our many unhealed wounds. Only a contemplative mind can hold our fear, confusion, vulnerability, and anger and guide us toward love.

Contemplative Christians can model a way of building a collaborative, compassionate politics. I suggest we start by reclaiming the wisdom of Trinity, a circle dance of mutuality and communion. Humans—especially the powerful, the wealthy, and supporters of the patriarchal system—are more comfortable with a divine monarch at the top of pyramidal reality. So Christians made Jesus into a distant, imperial God rather than a living member of divine-human relationship.

Spiritual power is more circular or spiral, and not so much hierarchical. It’s shared and shareable. God’s Spirit is planted within each of us and operating as each of us (see Romans 5:5)! Trinity shows that God’s power is not domination, threat, or coercion. All divine power is shared power and the letting go of autonomous power.

There’s no seeking of power over in the Trinity, but only power with—giving away and humbly receiving. This should have changed all Christian relationships: in churches, marriage, culture, and even international relations. Isaiah tried to teach such servanthood to Israel in the classic four “servant songs.” [1] But Hebrew history preceded what Christianity repeated: both traditions preferred kings, wars, and empires instead of suffering servanthood or leveling love.

Since this is so ingrained in our psyche, we must work hard to dismantle systems of domination. I emphatically state, together with my fellow Christian elders and leaders:

We believe our elected officials are called to public service, not public tyranny, so we must protect the limits, checks, and balances of democracy and encourage humility and civility on the part of elected officials. . . .

We reject any moves toward autocratic political leadership and authoritarian rule. . . . Disrespect for the rule of law, not recognizing the equal importance of our three branches of government, and replacing civility with dehumanizing hostility toward opponents are of great concern to us. Neglecting the ethic of public service and accountability, in favor of personal recognition and gain often characterized by offensive arrogance, are not just political issues for us. They raise deeper concerns about political idolatry, accompanied by false and unconstitutional notions of authority. [2]

What if we actually surrendered to the inner Trinitarian flow and let it be our primary teacher? Our view of politics and authority would utterly change. We already have all the power (dynamis) we need both within us and between us—in fact, Jesus assures us that we are already “clothed” in it “from on high” (see Luke 24:49)!

Gateway to Presence:
If you want to go deeper with today’s meditation, take note of what word or phrase stands out to you. Come back to that word or phrase throughout the day, being present to its impact and invitation


Edit: cleaning up my email box right now and this is the email from him yesterday

Another Power
Sunday, July 15, 2018

Doom to you who legislate evil, who make laws that make victims—laws that make misery for the poor, that rob my destitute people of dignity, exploiting defenseless widows, taking advantage of homeless children. —Isaiah 10:1-2, The Message

Beside the streams of Babylon, we sat and wept, trying to remember Mount Zion. —Psalm 137:1

As a follower of both Jesus and Francis of Assisi, my primary moral viewpoint is not based in the well-being of those who are on top but at the bottom. Parker Palmer describes the impact when this is not our priority: “When we forget that politics is about weaving a fabric of compassion and justice on which everyone can depend, the first to suffer are the most vulnerable among us—our children, our elderly, our mentally ill, our poor, and our homeless. As they suffer, so does the integrity of our democracy.” [1] 

In light of this, I will be sharing parts of a document I helped compose with a group of twenty-three Christian leaders and elders of various denominations. We presented “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis” to the White House on May 24 in a pilgrimage of over 1,000 believers. [2] As a Franciscan Catholic, I proudly wore the habit of St. Francis. For the vulnerable who have been rendered more vulnerable by the current United States’ administration, we lament and pray and promise to stand with you. We acknowledge and affirm:

We are living through perilous and polarizing times as a nation, with a dangerous crisis of moral and political leadership at the highest levels of our government and in our churches. We believe the soul of the nation and the integrity of faith are now at stake.

[As Christians,] it is time to be followers of Jesus before anything else—nationality, political party, race, ethnicity, gender, geography—our identity in Christ precedes every other identity. . . . “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another” (John 13:35). [3]

Parker Palmer broadens this shared responsibility to those of other faiths:

All three traditions [Christianity, Judaism, and Islam] are misunderstood because some of their alleged adherents engage in hateful and violent behavior that distorts and defies the values they claim to represent. At their core, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and all of the major world religions are committed to compassion and hospitality. . . . In this fact lies the hope that we might reclaim their power to help reweave our tattered civic fabric. [4]

The Hebrew prophets, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammed first appear to be “nothing,” outside the system, and really of no consequence. But like leaven and yeast, their much deeper power rises, again and again, in every age, while kings, tyrants, and empires change and pass away.

Gateway to Presence:
If you want to go deeper with today’s meditation, take note of what word or phrase stands out to you. Come back to that word or phrase throughout the day, being present to its impact and invitation.

Silver66 Rage against the dying of the light

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:21am
reno, NV
Joined: Jun 11, 2012

The Maui state of mind

Now we're talking. Long stroll along a boardwalk by a beach. IZ playing on the head phones. 86 degrees, a balmy breeze and not a care in the world. People everywhere are blissed out by Kona-style calm. We're there first 2 weeks of December. I bit the bullet to start our Maui trip and took 3 nights at the Grand Wailea, a place so luxurious that this redneck strap hanger has to pinch himself to see if it's a dream and remind self it's ok to be here too.

Stack. I've thought many times how Europe will be changed forever by the migration of people from MENA and Africa to the heart of Europe and Scandinavian countries. It's one thing to have people from all parts of the world come to one's country with their hopes of becoming part of the fabric of their new home, giving more than they receive.

It's something else to see 'weaponized' immigration done with the specific intent of disrupting the social and economic fabric of countries, using the Soros model of agitation and destruction. Soros might be one of the most destructive creatures to walk this earth in the last 60 years. He is a monster in his own life, seeking to spread his world view of harm to everyone he considers to be an untermensch. 

I know the story of his time as a child in the pale, selling his jewish neighbors for a loaf of bread. He bragged about it later in life. He's like a virus that targets healthy cells, sets up a toe hold, gets the cells to turn on themselves while feasting on the by products of cellular death.

He recently moved $18 billion of his family office fortune to his Open Society Foundation This was not an act of generosity, rather it's an act of filling his powder magazines with fresh explosives, then training his big guns on us, Europe or any place where his initial salvos cause such destruction to the economy and markets of the targeting country that he can trade, making billions on the suffering of others. Broke the Bank of England. Check

I also have not come close to figuring out how Europe can save itself if the migrant problems of France, England, Italy, Germany and Sweden continue to expand and grow in violence The European people appear to be in a state of shock and denial over this and are told to STFU because criticism of this new paradigm is considered hate speech

On the home front, mass illegal immigration can quickly turn a sovereign nation into a mishmash of Balkanized neo-feudal states that bring the original inhabitants to a state of constant anxiety over what to do about what amounts to an invasion of people who refuse to assimilate. This leads to physical aggression as people are pitted against each other, mostly against their will while professional well paid agitators egg on each side into violence.

On a personal note I lived in San Diego for 45 years. In the last 10, through 2009, I saw entire neighborhoods change from a mixed nationality area to one almost exclusively of one nationality. There are parts of San Diego where Iraqi, Somali, Yemeni and other MENA and African nationalities have set up homes and businesses. Once they set up camp the former neighbors usually move.

While this might not be bad in the really long pull and time will see how it works out, it's common knowledge that under the previous administration, refugees and others from the poorest nations were pretty much air dropped into towns and cities far from the southern border. There are many examples of anecdotal evidence that these new inhabitants do not play nice with their neighbors.

I could cite other examples but it is up to people to see if this rings true for their own home states and countries.

Losing European and American culture is a distinct possibility. Europe may be far past the point of no return, particularly when the immigrants state clearly that they will breed themselves in a majority of the population. In some areas they are a generation or two from meeting that goal, with families of 5 or more children.


Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:40am
rochester, NY
Joined: Jun 15, 2011

....back on track.........

ag66 asks and AB delivers. This happened Sunday in jolly ole England. It is the season, that's true, but that's no excuse nor an explanation. These circles are coming fast and furious. Somebody wants our higher attentions, for sure. While the lizzies are pounding the airways to keep us fixated down below in the lowest frequencies of 3D, down on the ground where they crawl on their bellies, someone is trying to influence the matrix for higher aspirations. Got ten minutes to loosen yur thoughts??


Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:52am
Joined: Jun 14, 2011

AM.  Fascinating.  You and I

AM. Fascinating. You and I share concepts but not thoughts. I’m more applied, or pragmatic, according to my values and what I want from life. I’ll admit I seldom can tease out your deepest meanings but assume it is my lack. So you have Setup for the Big Trade and I poke along I the 3x ETF forum. I cannot even properly express what makes my trading pofitable, yet there it is, and it is handsome all the same.

Here is something I say locally, in face to face conversations and hadn’t put up here at DOTS because the subject matter is a hot button.

I hear the fear of immigration, and that other cultures are invading and threatening what we hold dear.

What I say in return is that the simplest solution is for them (the fearful) to start going to Church again. Simple, actionable. And reflective of all the founding father discussion.

In fact I find when people are going on about founding fathers and original intent that they leave out the role of the Church. How do they miss that obvious one ;-)

I trust you know what I mean from this, and it isn’t Pope-worship. Can you make what you’ve said and what I mean into something that can be communicated with less risk of fanning flames or being lost as too esoteric?

I apologize if that’s what your wife meant and you don’t have an answer but I got caught up in the aha! of it.


Swing trade indexed ETFs. Long physical gold, silver, and 1 miner.
Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:52am (Reply to #23518)
Joined: Dec 14, 2013

stackaloha wrote:Europe is

stackaloha wrote:

Europe is worth saving! The fight has only just begun!

Oh yes it is my favorite continent by far. Just look at the culture, art, food, cities, diversity(european), nature, buildings, people. Very unfortunate that wwI and wwII happened, so sad for Europe. Fully support the Hawaii for Hawaiians, get the white asses out.

Europe: But this has to go or be replaced, Jean-Claude Junk-er the president of EU

Jean-Claude Juncker stumbles and is helped by leaders at NATO gala

He is an avid bitch slapping machine

Jean-Claude Juncker drunk and bitch slaps leaders

Another great post by AGXIIK I dito that as well. It happened so fast. In less than 10years Sweden received one million immigrants, thats +10% of the population. Just one example of how fucked up it is. Many schools in Malmö are in deep shit. Only 5 of 1000 kids are ethnic Swedes, to many students in one classroom. Fighting at the school yard. Some kids brings knives and guns to school. Many teachers are not certified and do not speak Swedish. AND guess what the main focus for 2018 is ... you guessed it ... to be HBTQ-certified angry 

But things are changing fast now. People know that something is wrong. Maybe the force of a self regulating organism that Argentus talked about. Even the teenagers are mocking the sitting party right now with you tube movies that are brilliant.

From a song by the youngsters:
We the Social Democrats, do not ask us about the future, where to go bcos ... WE DON'T KNOW 

Mon, Jul 16, 2018 - 11:58am
reno, NV
Joined: Jun 11, 2012

THE LONG SUMMER by Brian Fagan

This is the second of two books Kagan wrote that outlined human development shaped by the extremes of weather and clime changes. In this book Kagan does an even better job of meticulous research, standing on the shoulders of giants in their respective fields of work, to outline how the long summer, running from about 16,000 BC to 1000 AD A languid day of reading yesterday gave me some smiles about Granny and her people. 

It just dawned on me that her tribe and Pacific Islanders come from similar groups of people who walked east from Europe; one line going north through a hostile wilderness called Siberia; one going south and across the Pacific, ending up on many small islands. 15,000 year period of warmth in many ways helped build the world and its people we see today. Our progress to a modern world was nothing short of light speed given how many eons passed while humanity existed as hunger gatherers, stuck in a low level of evolution that changed in was was essentially an eye blink in homo sapiens time scales. More later on that

I think I was a Hawaiian in another life.

IZ sung eloquently about Hawaiian sovereign lands and their home land. It speaks volumes about Hawaiians wanting to have their islands back.

Abguy4 Fagan writes frequently about how Cro Magnon people created their spiritual nature through their caves drawings using them to connect to the super natural, lead by their shamans. Later, when CM left their caves for plains and forests they carried their beliefs in the supernatural and 'the other side' a place their shamans could go when deep in a trance.

Does this connect to the 4D elements you write about. I am very ignorant on that subject but will check your videos to gain a greater understanding


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