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Hey, Did you guys know that

Hey, Did you guys know that Jonathan Swift was born on a total lunar eclipse on November 30th, 1667.   And exactly 90 years later, a full right angle, Mark Twain was born on November 30th, the moment Hailey's Comet appeared in the sky?

And did you also know that Swift wrote about two planetary bodies and wrote about them in Gullivers Travels 150 years before our crack scientist would discover them?

Those are some odd looking planets.  I wonder how they got there?

And some guy, who will go nameless due to ethnic and nationalist concerns, said that Swift found and deciphered records that Martians left on earth.  Hee hee.  I love conspiracy theoristscheeky

They have likewise discovered two lesser stars, or satellites, which revolve around Mars, whereof the innermost is distant from the center of the primary exactly three of his diameters, and the outermost five: the former revolves in the space of ten hours, and the latter in twenty-one and a half.

                            Gullivers Travels

It also appears to me Swift, like Twain, were both Master Persuaders.  I've been waiting for a guy like this to come our way and enlighten the public.  

Now for 323?? Hmmmm, 

Am I supposed to be looking at an ephemeris? 

a factor of the 17.70 year war cycle by 18.2 years? 

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I imagine Frank Zappa wrote a song about trout tickling too AB

On Mainstreet a discussion was held about why some airlines and plane manufacturers were plagued by what Zappa aptly described in his song Sting Foot.  Yes, I listened to it. Zappa was one of my  favorites if accompanied with some intoxicants.  What happens on a jet beset with stink foot  is best described as a new age Zyklon B gassing of 250 souls trapped at 45,000 feet without the benefit of a de-lousing session and close cropped haircut. Maybe it's just me but I smell a conspiracy.  

GL  I read some of the material on liminality and crashed straight into an intellectual barrier after I tried to read Tuner's article. Maybe it's the wording, liminal and consensus reality that escapes me. I can understand transistions from one state of mind to the other, having experienced several in my life  Most were self induced rather than forced on me by others.  Is there a better way to describe this phenomenon. 

One thought as I read Tuners article is that we can also take on a voluntary and self enforced liminality rather than one which occurs from outside pressure or oppression, evolving of our accord, as our own pace,  with a specific path and ultimate place where our transitions bring us to peace and harmony, at least with ourselves if not with the general population.  You know I tend to move more as an independent mind even though that might be a delusion as well

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Dang a triple

on the road to maximum shit dipped dunkitude.  A personal posting best  Sheeshblush

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AGKIIK, I appreciate you

AGKIIK, 

I appreciate you taking the time to research it and get your head around it.  

I'll think about how to explain conscensus reality.   I watched a couple video's but I didn't love the presentation.  

Here is another definition of liminal space. 

During liminal periods of all kinds, social hierarchies may be reversed or temporarily dissolved, continuity of tradition may become uncertain, and future outcomes once taken for granted may be thrown into doubt.[5] The dissolution of order during liminality creates a fluid, malleable situation that enables new institutions and customs to become established.[6] The term has also passed into popular usage, where it is applied much more broadly, undermining its significance to some extent.[7]

Here is Kanye West trying to get you to release your "identity" 

I'm a little tired.  Understanding something and explaining something are two different abilities.   

Cernovich is invoking this concept of "sacred space"  Where your sense of identity connected to constructs dissolves.   And all of your opinions that you've formed, or have been formed for you, dissolves and all that's left is  YOU.  The real "I"  

They are trying to dissolve the racism of the left, and the right and all the opinions that hvae been fed to people which they associate with their identity.   

Who are you AG?  YOu're a big Irish man.  You're a business man.  You're a MAGA supporter.  You like Elk Pizza etc, etc, etc, etc,  Are any of those things who you really are?  

Sacred space, the beating up of a drum in ritual is designed to have you let go of your sense of identity that's been programmed and access higher intellegence.  

Liminal space is a more a term that the Jungians used to say the space in which you have a break through.  A transition, an ephiphany.  This is somewhat people are trying to do with Ayuhuasca and Marijuana to a lesser extend.  Find their center.  Find flow.   They can't do it naturally.  Find "sacred space"  Release the chains of the mind so they resort to psychellic drugs to get this sense of release and connection.   

I might not be hitting the right words that resonate with you.  

When the family gets in the car to take a journey.  It helps people let go of their identity an associations of who they are to connect to something bigger than themselves.  It's actually a ritual process.  You have dissociated with your identity connected to your environment and all the surrounding trappings.   You get a sense of freedom.   You think more clearly until you return to the stressors of your enviornment. 

Consensus Reality says that our reality is defined by group thought forms and that we are limited by the collective unconscious.   

In politics, our believes are all programmed and the total sum of our political system is based on our unconscious believes.  

But it also says that the law of physics as we know it is formed based on our collective understanding of the laws of the universe, and we can't go beyond our collective understand even how we view a tree or what is possible.  

Everything from our health, to reality out there is a result of collective thought forms.  The world as we know it. 

I have seen things first hand and experienced things first hand that defy the law of physics.  They are unbelievable.  Even when I was told I went.... Ehhh.... smoke and mirrors.  But NO! Extraordinary things are possible. 

The way I understand it is Kayne is using this as persuasion so people stop identifying with their programs.  But the problem is, does he have a program that he wants to slip in?  

Adams has suggested that Kayne West has skills equal to Trump.  And it might be this picture was planned.  Sort of priming the public.  

I don't like Rap music.  That effects my judgement about Kayne.  I don't like the video's I've seen him do with him yelling at the audience.  That effects my judgement.  And yet, I can see some of his genius.  Even some of his lyrics but the moment I hear the music, It sounds like barbarian beats.   So I have multiple concerns about Kayne but he seems to understand a concept that eludes probably 99% of the voting public.   Looks like Cernovich is now talking above people's heads although I thought he did a good job.  But many the comments were rough.  People mock and attack what they don't understand.  

I might be able to find some better explanations.  That's what I can do for now. 

I can only be me!! cheeky

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Thanks GL The words do resonate better when stated

in a form that connects to present day and how events and emotional currents are dragging our identities in competing directions.  Let's see, what who or what do I want to be today.  Check the internet, there's an app for that too. 

I'll read this over a few more times and respond in a while.  The video  We're living in a simulation should be interesting. 

As for the basics, one thing that did appeal to me in supporting Trump in what appeared to be his original manifestation was his business acumen, even if he did BK a few times.  That seemed to be the ticket. He originally appeared to be the anti-politican. 

But his moving from that state to something else that is less appealing, particularly as he feeds the blue team enough red meat to bring them to a fever pitch, could be his undoing. 

I'm was on  board the MAGA train as it was originally outlined, a determination to reverse decades of bad policies , wars and economic lassitude.  Today it's been turned into a parody of the original intent. Now its a shibboleth.  

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Here is my version

Liminal space = the edge of the mental trading range.

You have found your way to the borderline. There is strong impetus and comfort to be gained by returning to range centre and balance. BUT stepping over the borderline into a bigger understanding of the all can take place from there, it can only happen if a step forward is made while at the edge.

There lies either development or oblivion.

A metaphysical inflection point within the mind.

I call what happens at these points, inflections. Return or breakout follows arrival there.

The range perceived is actually snaking along within a larger, wider, not yet perceived range of limitation. The borders of that range are never found unless the prior inflection is a breakout towards the outside of and away from the old comfort zone range boundaries.

Edit: uzuall typo removal ...

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full n by wrote: Hi Can you

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Hi Can you tell me what source? Times? freq ?   Just roughly I know it is a complex situation     Thanks      Cheers from   NZ

There were reports of casualies last night.  I see none.   I was reading some article on frontier and I can't find the articles about the terrorism.  And if you search Reagan DC>  There was a black out.  And search suicide airplane.  Two suicides by hijacking and crashing.  And there are various incidents around the world.  U just have to use your browser and search for them.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/08/16/two-united-airlines-planes-collide-on-ground-at-chicago-ohare-airport.html

https://abc11.com/health/frontier-airlines-flight-diverted-to-rdu-because-of-unknown-odor-in-cabin/3967490/

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That's easier to grasp too AM I'll use a template

in a realm that I can relate to.   I've been immersed in business since 1975.  From 1975 to 1992 I worked in the credit industry as well as a lender rep for 12 of those years, working exclusively with business owners. In 1992 I started my company which I still run today   Talk about being being totally invested in a particular space, one defined by my successes as well as the expectations of any business owner---succeed, grow,  move forward and make a profit to survive and prosper.  Yet at this point in time I'd transfer those energies into another realm.  What might motivate me to leave that paradigm for another are a little complex.  Like finding another world to explore.  

The comfortable consensus reality is range bound for any enterprise.  It's very easy to stay within the perimeters even as I look over into other pastures. Counseling thousands of business owners both as a consultant, loan broker and teacher at a San Diego university, I always described the paths to grow a business, often to people who had little idea of the means to build their business beyond a one person shop. I could talk for hours on that subject but few would break through those barriers to build an enterprise that had long term portable sustainable value beyond making the owner a nice living.

Growth/development or oblivion was very much the tipping point for many businesses, many of which failed because they could not move past their self imposed limitations. Or failed because they and their business were overtaken by events that proved completely destructive to what one would think should be a fully successful business with a long term path of success.  Some businesses faded slowly over months and even years as the owner failed to see their own demise was written in the stars.  But for some oblivion took place in a month or less

My business requires maybe 2 hours a day or less, sometimes zero if things are moving of their own accord. This allows me to sniff around just outside my self imposed limitations, seeing what else is available. Breaking totally free of the defining entrepreneurial range bound life that's been my province for 43 plus years would be interesting to say the least. It is a course of study that's occupied my thinking for some time  Thank you and GL for making it easier to see. The business owner template, growth, development, oblivion and moving into another world gives me the platform to better understanding.

PS GL  There are many references to foul odors on board Boeing jets caused by a reflux of hydraulic oils and other noxious fumes that get into the ventilation systems due to aging valves and O rings.  These smell variously like stinky feet or bad egg smells. Sometimes they're so foul that people start yacking on their shoes. Some employees are so affected that they have to resign. A few are claiming that constant exposure to these toxic gasses can cause early onset alzheimer disease.  It's not getting much press because no one  died on board but there are some lawsuits pressing to address this problem.   Its being covered up IMO

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My definition

That moment before you decide to jump into the pool knowing it's going to be mighty uncomfortable at first. Trusting it will be worth it after acclimation. 

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Oh sheesh

what is this weather pattern. Torrential downpours constant flooding and unbearable humidity. A zillion bugs and fleas. I've never had fleas like this. Damn near poisoned the dog. We never have summer winds this strong. Neighbors say it's been like this all summer. This is a tropical weather pattern. 

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Of course you're right. You always are. 

Im concerned about ATA. He is MIA. I hope he's ok. 

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AGX

this is true ..... I've smelled it - recently. Ima look up the plane I was on. 

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Wow

RIP Aretha. She used to be skinny!!! Wonder why they hid her health issues over the years. 

Btw Elvis died on the same day. I think they both were from Memphis but I'm not sure. Just another piece of trivia floating in my head. 

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Break in the rain

gotta go do some fencing., 

oh, oh AGX. I've seen them use women as bait for those catfish contests. Two big guy will have a female firmly by the shoulders. Otherwise she would drown cuz when they pull her out both her legs up to the knees are in the catfishes mouth. She will slide her body feet first into their underwater cavern hiding places. Is that brave or insane? 

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Kanye

is bar Shyte crazy.... But any guy who can pull off wearing a skirt is ok I'm my book. His music is horrible. 

Gotta go 

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Oh wait

That scant info I caught was 75 drug ODs in the same park, same day. Not opiods but k2. With legal tree I don't get the k2 use.  Btw the number was still rising. 

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Luminal

I had never heard of another use other than as relating to the lumen or as a drug name.

However from the description by GL it appears to be a synonym of numinous or used as such.

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AGXIIK wrote: PS GL  There

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PS GL  There are many references to foul odors on board Boeing jets caused by a reflux of hydraulic oils and other noxious fumes that get into the ventilation systems due to aging valves and O rings.  These smell variously like stinky feet or bad egg smells. Sometimes they're so foul that people start yacking on their shoes. Some employees are so affected that they have to resign. A few are claiming that constant exposure to these toxic gasses can cause early onset alzheimer disease.  It's not getting much press because no one  died on board but there are some lawsuits pressing to address this problem.   Its being covered up IMO

Thanks! I crashed before I read all the details.  But all three reports came in front of my eyes the same time last night, the additional suicide, and other misc. airline problems. 

There is something going on that connects everything going  that indicates a bigger narrative.

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SteveW wrote: However from

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However from the description by GL it appears to be a synonym of numinous or used as such.

I'd say yes because something with a numinous quality can put you in that space.  People have used religious symbols to access this state but not necessary but equally valid.

AM got it.  Cernovich got it.  And I suspect both experienced it within the context of their particular expertise.

This will take 3 minutes and 6 seconds of your life and attention to hear another explanation . 

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