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Tennessee Southerner:  Y'all

Tennessee Southerner: Y'all New Yorkers thinks you are soo especial.

New Yorker: Go shoot racoons

Tennessee Southerner: Y'all and your dirty, filthy streets, banksters and all that Die-Versity. 

New Yorker: What line of your work are you in? 

Tennessee Southerner: Me? Ima lab assistant for my paw. The crack belt of thee Younited States of America.

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End of an 86 year old cycle at hand. Depending how low it goes, depends on how long this cycle gets extended. The fun just beginning. Hold on to your panties. The first 7 years was just spring training. 

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Grasping reality…

Grasping reality…

Once upon a time, Silver 66 suggested that I explore flat earth as a thought experiment….

Ultimately, it was a good call. Yeah, it's a completely bullshit narrative, probably bought forth by the CIA,

(The Vatican thought of it first)

But seeing how it has affected so many people, and hijacked many aspects of the truth movement,

A good bullshit narrative can really screw up a discussion about things that matter.

I witnessed it myself when I went to a Mark Passio presentation last September. During our lunch break, I realized I was surrounded by a bunch of flat Earth numbskulls, who were belligerently advocating their beliefs and ridiculing anybody not "enlightened" enough to perceive this Great deception.

I really had to laugh when I heard in a recent interview, Mark Passio calling them the biggest batch of fucking idiots he's ever met. 

That brings us to the latest release by David Icke today.

 I have often stated that I don't buy anybody's narrative 100%, and here's where David Icke goes off the rails.

In this piece, he describes the nature of reality as a figment of human perception, a construct generated by your brain,

And without your brain, there would be no existence of anything whatsoever.

Now here's the funny thing, this is actually the only plausible scenario by which a flat earth could actually exist.

And then, he refuses to take sides on the matter, that if you believe it's round, you will see evidence for that, and if you believe it's flat, you will see evidence for that. 

Read the comments section, 

the flat earthers have taken it over, and are really, really pissed at David for not taking a stand.

I like to study physics, I like to figure out how things actually work, I like to explore alternative theories as to how they work, particularly when the standard model proves to be impossible.

Then, you can start to shape your perception of reality based on laws of physics that represent a proper working model.

Once this is accomplished, so many dots that seem completely separate and unrelated all fit together seamlessly.

Abguy4,

Once upon a time, I recall a post of yours where you said something like “the more I study these things, the more I wind up agreeing with David Icke”.

Here's what I'm curious about, take a gander at David's representation of reality, and tell me if it fits yours.

You probably don't need to review the video, I'm sure you've come across it in the past.

I'm wondering if it's a matter of my own misinterpretation, which is plausible, sometimes I think words mean something that they don’t according to the person saying them.

Yes, perception can be completely hijacked, and ultimately, the only thing that actually exists is energy, but it it does exist, and creates everything we perceive as matter. In this form, it has to follow particular laws of how the universe actually works, and is not subjective according to one's perception, or imagination.

David Icke on Flat Earth Theory, Reptilians, & Denver Airport
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Grasping reality or gasping reality

At first glance I though you said 'gasping' reality and then realized you were talking about grasping reality when discussing flat earthers understanding

. 5,000 years ago the savants didn't debate if the earth was round. Anyone with half a brain working knew the earth was round and the earth circled the sun etc. Heliocenteric and all the stuff. But what you're seeing here Mr Fix is the preening pontificating self righteous dipshits who start their arguments as fucking knowitalls who then quickly descend downwards through the 7 levels of intellectual hell to the 'gasping reality'. Once found out, they devolve into 2 year olds, screaming, tears flying, diapers full, bellowing that they didn't get their Maypo.

They get over wrought over their self style flat earth polemics that achieve one thing; show the person as a low rent intellect easily knocked off their perch. It reminds of 5 fat men trying to push a compact car up hill, only to find when their strength and wind runs out of gas they finally realize those little round things called wheels go both ways. In very short order the 5 fatties are seen run down the hill, chased by by their specious arguments and bloviations. It think it was a FIAT 128

Maybe it's just the morphine talking but I find most people who talk themselves into 6 foot hole never figure out the first rule of shovels When in a hole, stop digging

I know this probably wasn't about flat earth debates but that's the way it caught me this AM and I'm more than a little goofy right now. MA was discussing flat earth vs round earth It caught as odd that so much knowledge was lost or hidden during the dark ages. Round earth and helicentric had to be reinvented. There's probably alot to be discussed on the subject.

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this is REALLY happening

NOW, we're starting to get real interesting

Re-inventing a German WWII engine design, wtf huh?

Super charged and turbocharged diesel and gas

opposed 3 cylinder/6 piston two-stroke "Boxer" design~!!

2.7 L and 40 mpg in a FULL-size truck

OBTW
Honda is going to use a 2.0 L 4 cyl Super charged and turbocharged

in the new 2019 Honda S2000 due to market late 2018

so this is REALLY happening.

OBTW, One correction to the video

the German Junkers JU-390 ACTUALLY flew to NYC in 1944 on a test run

-- the german nuke was not ready to go yet, thank goodness, huh?

AND

we'll have to see IF this companies people live out the year

a 50% increase in efficiency would cut world oil consumption in half

arkansas here we come?

Really! A Super and Turbocharged Boxer Truck Diesel/Gas Engine with No Spark Plugs

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Ruffian wrote: don't know

Ruffian wrote:

don't know much about cycles but there are a ton of EUs here. They have the nerve to mock us yanks for being stupid. And after years of warning on DB they still don't get it. They maybe we are dumb cuz we bailed them out in 2009 too. Everything can be summed up with it's the Americans. Not my first rodeo with EUs tho. 

Well, the EU stuff you are looking at can fit into. All humanity is stupid. Don't worry about some French making fun of us.

Just keep it easy. 

86 years would be from 1842 to 2018. It started when the US had sovereign debt crisis. Alot of states went belly up.

86 years before ended the the Turks invadsion of Holy Roman Empire at the Battle of Vienna which started 72 years prior.

Guess why I'm watching the Turks off of Cyprus.

So I'm just looking at what this repetitive cycle brought last time and obviously there are other over arching cycles.

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Mr. Fix wrote:Grasping

Mr. Fix wrote:

Grasping reality…

In this piece, he describes the nature of reality as a figment of human perception, a construct generated by your brain,

And without your brain, there would be no existence of anything whatsoever.

True, there would be no existence of time and space (there isn't any) so the brain is only the tool we use to perceive reality in a 3D world. If we perceived reality the way it is, with a body and a brain, we'd explode. We couldn't handle it. 

 The mind is the mechanism that allows you to experience “time” as a series of linear nows instead of all at once. Time has no existence except as experienced by the "mind 

Space also has no existence. It is hardly anything than a vast nothingness, a huge hole with spiritual energy. It is nothing apart from out perception of objects and time means nothing, apart from experience of events.

Space is a fiction created by the mind. It merely helps us understand and describe the arrangement of objects as we view them while time is a secondary fiction. Fake NEWS. It serves a similar purpose by arranging events which happens to us. In another words, and we’ve covered this, all events have occurred already, and we are only experiencing them in linear reality

In both physics and philosophy., time and space are what they call Maya. Illusion or temporary.

You cannot separate your experience of the external world from the nature of your faculties where we obtain physical knowledge.

The law of gravity cannot be regarded as subsisting, apart from your experience and the group experience from where ascertain “truth.

One event at a time. As you read my response, you are reading one word at a time as the clock ticks each moment of duration. Your eyes are passing each word through light reflecting into your eyes, each word or series of words triggering pictures in your mind affording you comprehension of what I am saying. Could you read all the words and get what i am saying all in a moment? Why not?

Eternity is not infinite time. It is the absence of time. No-time. Not the samething

Mind creates matter. How could it be otherwise?

In quantum potential states, two electrons may actually occupy the same space. 

They call this superposition. The body is composed structurally of atoms, the building blocks of nature. The atom is composed of electrons and the nucleus, which consists of protons and neutrons. But get this: an electron doesn’t actually exist except for when it’s observed. The double split experiment. When we look at it, only then does the electron assume the semblance of a fixed and stable orbit.

When not being observed, the electron exists in the form o a probability cloud. The cloud is composed of all probable orbits This cloud is composed of all the probably orbits it could be in before the act of measurement fixes it into a stable orbit around the nucleus. Since we humans at the atomic level are composed of atoms, we consists of a series of states composed from an infinite set of oscillating possibilities.

It is our inability to let go of our fixed attitudes, our reference frames that collapses reality in a way that is predictable.

If time is an illusion, that makes cycles equally bullshit. I’m not saying they don’t exist, I’m saying they are a result of the collapsing of the wave function and group observation.

Armstrong wrote a post a few years back which I’m not looking for which he said that a group of Christians predicted Armageddon and that they created a cycle that was self perpetuating. That cycle didn’t exist until they created it. There was no such cycle until humans put into action. That thought collapsed the electron and now created a cycle which must reach a completion. The proof of natural law in all things, all events. You can’t avoid it.

Markets don’t have a cycle until the first person trades it. That means every action a ripple in time that must have a conclusion. 

There is no space and time. They are not realities. Thee is no fundamental entity called space existing in itself in which the world is placed, nor is there any fundamental line in which an event occurs. Out of an observer’s temporal experience, time is constructed, and out of the same time is constructed space. But there is no underlying time or space with which these can conceivably be correlated. Thus the universe and its creator are neither in time nor space. 

World systems, financial systems are nothing more than swirling atoms. The price of gold at this moment is nothing more than infinite possibilities where the wave function of infinite possibilities has collapsed in this moment, in this moment and moving forever into the future.

I said this before, if enough gold bugs could understand what I am saying, and it’s very doubtful that's ever going to happe, we could collapse the wave function, cycle and create price to our liking.

Everything is relative to human perception. Nothing is real except what is in our consciousness and perceptions, and this, who relative, creates an illusion. 

The picture of an electron as a point in space and time fails completely. It has a wave like characteristic, therefore it is often called a wavicle.

A event has many sizes relative to the corresponding standpoints. There are as many imaginary world as there are observers with varying interests and purposes, and these world appear to change in accordance with the subjective changes in the life of those who experience them.

We measure and discuss realty as events that occupy space and time. The larger the group that anticipates an event in space and time, the more likely that event will occur. My time measurements depend ultimately on my space measurements and the latter on my ideas.

Built nine boxes. Build them all with the same measurements but different in forms they would occupy the same space and time, and would be the same objects yet appearing to be different to different observers. IN the same way one and the same world appears to be different to different observers. Therefore, every observer is having a different hallucination on reality.

When you dream you probably dream of roads, mountains and waterfalls etc…. They are only forms of empty space that you are perceiving as forms and objects. Samet hing in the waking experience.. They are forms of empty space, depending on the position of the observer. 

sorry to report this to all of you, but we are creating the global financial crisis, we are creating the refugee and immigration problem, and everything else. 

Please don't leave planet earth without understanding the implications of the Double Split experiment. 

Now if you don't understand anything I wrote, I present to you a repeat presentation of a Hippie explaining quantam physics to a group of children. 

Hippie talks about the Universe

And if you still don't know the Double split experiment, here it is in cartoon form. 

Dr Quantum - Double Slit Experiment

We create the cycles, we create the problems. All the planets do is help us time our own creations All that shit out there.........It's in our head.

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TIME ENSLAVES US.  NOTHING

TIME ENSLAVES US. NOTHING ELSE. We could not be debt slaves or ET slaves or any other type of slave if we were the masters of time. 

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without your brain, there would be no existence of anything

Mr. Fix wrote:

Grasping reality…

In this piece, he describes the nature of reality as a figment of human perception, a construct generated by your brain,

And without your brain, there would be no existence of anything whatsoever.

Not true

This is not a matter of semantics. Your brain is mostly responsible for 1) operating your space suit, and then secondarily formulating the outside energetics into a 3D experience. Your soul or consciousness (or whatever), preceded your brain/space suit, and it will go on indefinitely after your brain dries-up and returns to its molecules of water and carbon elements.

Now I can confirm, and many sources will tell you, that if you have an outta-body experience, or after-death experience, the 3D world is still there. Your perception of it will be different, and what is actually observed to be happening in 3D is expanded, but the 3D world is gonna go on just as before. It doesn’t need you any more than the 5D world needs you, but you are free visit just the same. For example, when the guys in a saucer travel to Earth , when they Pop-Into this Space-Time here, so to speak, the 3D world was here before they arrived, and it continues after they leave. If a 5D entity visits Earth, they visit a 3D setting and experience its goings on(s), without them having a 3D type mushy wet gelatinous “Brain”.

Now here's the funny thing, this is actually the only plausible scenario by which a flat earth could actually exist.

And then, he refuses to take sides on the matter, that if you believe it's round, you will see evidence for that, and if you believe it's flat, you will see evidence for that. 

Alright, here’s where perception (which is everything) comes into play. Firstly, David is an English gentleman, how could he be otherwise? No matter how many slings an arrows he suffers he still refrains from getting down to the level of his detractors – a lesson I still struggle with. Faced with the Flat Earth question he is overly polite and turned it into a teaching experience, rather than doing what I would do, which would be to say; “Take yur fkn cia/Vatican B.S. think-tank propaganda Flat Earth meme and shove it up yur incredibly stupid ass with a jelly donut.” I listened twice to what David said, and he summarized at the outset; ”It doesn’t fit with my intuition, and I go by my intuitions. But, if someone sees it that way (flat), then that’s their perception.” I thought he played that 1000% more nicely than I would have, and then turned it into a lecture on the Matrix, (Prison Planet suits my perceptions better). GAWD, please give me just 10% of his tact and Grace.

I'm wondering if it's a matter of my own misinterpretation, which is plausible, sometimes I think words mean something that they don’t according to the person saying them.

OMG, That is incredibly brave of you. Yes, for a fact I have been trying to say that here for years. We are all unavoidably products (partially at least), of our environments, and if nothing else we are here trying to gain insights into our own personal consciousness prisons, while recognizing that we are simultaneously in a prison of consensual mass consciousness – which is NOT Natural. I know that I read and I filter things consciously and unconsciously as I’m reading. Sometimes I have to walk away from someone’s post for days and then re-read it and try to re-formulate what I’m reading – sometimes that works. In other words, sometimes I have a mis-taken first impression, sometimes not.

I’ll give you an example which has no context except to you an me. I currently hold the notion that you have a notion that there are no outside visitors to Earth at this time and never have been. I think I’ve read all the sources that you’ve read and I think I know where you got that notion, but I read the same sources and took a different interpretation, see? Yes, the Anshar have confessed that they always interact with humans thru dreams and meditations and channels, and they pretend to be Arcturians or Lyrans or some other benevolents, right? So you came away thinking that all contacts have been Anshars hiding behind some other identity, ostensibly to keep surface Earth humans from looking down. I don’t deny what they said, but I’m as sure as I can be that we are currently visited by 300 extraterrestrials, with at least a dozen interacting with us in some form – and they’ve been here since before History. The Gawds of the humans are ETs, GIT OVER IT. There is a Prime Source, but it hasn’t shit to do with the Sky Daddys, all of which are reptilian creations. My version of History is that Thoth was an Atlantean and the Annunaki were probably reptilian – because there is so much mis-info on that I’m not sure.

 But back to David Icke. I thought that was another great video. I didn’t see any recognition of Flat Earth theory – but just a recognition that someone could hold that interpretation, just like someone could believe that Gawd is an old white man in a long beard, both are fkn idiots, but he kindly avoids saying that.

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Abguy4... That was the question.

Abguy4.

Now there is a post I can wrap my mind around.

But we now have some profound disagreements amongst a lot of researchers, don't we?

I wholeheartedly agree, that my house exists, regardless of whether or not I am looking at it.

That applies equally to the rest of reality.

Where perception takes over, is it a nice house, or a dump? Well, that becomes quite subjective, doesn't it?

If group consensus thinks it's nice, it is. If group consensus thinks it's sucks, it sucks.

Since I like it just fine, and I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks on the topic, it is settled for me.

Let's say that I'm finding a lot of metaphysical explanations just a little bit less then an accurate appraisal of reality.

So David Icke was being diplomatic. 

Mark Passio called the flat eathers a bunch of fucking idiots. I'm with Mark on this one, but there is something to be said for diplomacy.

You wouldn't want to alienate a large portion of your audience, would you? 

If you and GL windup in two different dimensions over this, I'm going to need some tutorials on interdimensional travel.

In the meantime, have a good night.

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Green Lantern,

If space, time, and matter, are manifestations of our imagination, is the math that we calculate them by also a figment of imagination?

Here's the thing:

There is a fairly famous formula floating around, let's take E equals MC squared. You can plug in the numbers, and get a correlation between space-time, time-space, and matter. The conversions for energy into matter, matter into energy, and with enough knowledge and expertise, things like time, space, matter and even gravity, are engineerable. Tapping space time, parallel universes, instantaneous intergalactic travel, and turning pure energy into any type of matter can be achieved with technology, once the underlying principles are understood.

This is equally true when you apply consciousness to the equation, because ultimately, whether it is an evolution of consciousness, or a development of high technology, what is achievable, is only limited by imagination.

But here's the thing, I don't think it's only imagination, and I'll give you an example. Will your car run without any gas in it, if you simply believe that it will?

How about if there's a group consensus that you can drive cross country in a Tesla with dead batteries? Will a plant grow without sunlight, water or nutrients, if you just give it "good vibes”?

Reality has basic operating rules, without going into the fact that many of the ones we have been taught are pure bullshit.

If a group consensus decides that gravity is just an illusion, do we all begin to fly? 

 Let's take your example with markets.

If we all decide that a particular commodity is going to skyrocket in value tomorrow, does this effect the psychopath with the computer behind the curtain?

In this example,

If everyone believes the markets are going to move in one particular direction, it almost guarantees that it will move in the exact opposite direction.

After all, the psychopaths that govern market direction, profit greatly by convincing everyone it's going to go one way, while betting the opposite.

I do like your assertion that there were no such things as cycles before they were invented by humans. I suspect heavy duty market manipulation was the intended goal.

That post pertaining to David Icke really wasn't a query about flat Earth versus a spherical one, it had more to do with the nature of reality.

I get that consciousness effects reality, as in mind over matter, and that the universe is a mental construct.

But something, has been constructed. For example, if I build something, such as a house, or a car, and I don't bother to tell you, one day, you show up at my place, and according to your model, if you don't believe I have a house or a car, you won't see them.

So I have assembled a construct that is visible only to me? And you only get to see it if you believe that it's there?

And where exactly does mass deception play into this? For example, if everybody watches the mainstream news, and buys the narrative that the economy is doing great, puts forth all bogus economic numbers, does this make it true?

Then when it all turns to shit, and everybody blames the preferred scapegoat caused it, does this also make that true?

Ultimately, maybe it doesn't matter. like if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes a truth… I am noticing this with a lot of false flag operations.

When enough people believe the bullshit narrative, it becomes the reality we live in. I know I am being contradictory, but that's my conundrum.

Maybe I was just pondering Ayn Rand, "You can ignore reality all you want, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality”.

Or something like that.

Is ignorance really bliss? If we all believe that unicorns shit Skittles, do they? Are you grasping the question?

I had a long day, and I'm tired.

I woke up pondering that video I posted this morning, and after reading your reply, let's just say, I'm just a little bit more confused than I was before I read it.

Ultimately, I think it's just a matter of putting the proper verbiage into an explanation.

Whether or not David Icke's version of reality makes sense to me, maybe largely dependent on what mood I'm in at the time.

But here's my measuring stick,

Is it engineerable? I say no.

Maybe I just need a new measuring stick. wink

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if you simply believe that it will.............................

Will your car run without any gas in it, if you simply believe that it will?

In my life there have been so many exceptions to consensual reality and consensual physics. Some day I should write them all down, but here’s just one.

When I met my wife 27 years ago, she was driving an incredible dog coup of a rusted out hulk of a car. It was a 12 yr old Chevette, which if you recall was known on the streets as a “Shove-It”, or what GM’s response was to the people who wanted a small car. The bottoms of the doors flapped in the wind as they had long since rusted completely thru the bottom. I suggested that we should find a car for her, but she said it was ‘fine for going back-n-forth to work, so leave it alone.’ Well after about two years of further neglect, she one day says to me; ”Hey, will ya take a look at the Chevette, it runs a little rough lately.’’ So, one fine Sat morning I begin to go thru all the tune-up parts and I can’t find a single thing wrong. I do everything this ole engineer can think of and then some. It still starts fine, but lacks a little power. Out of last ditch desperation I look into the battery (You could in those days). The battery was the original 12 yr old. The battery was dry. I mean like bone dry – not even a fume. I pulled it out and tipped it over on some newspaper to see if there was some acid hiding in there somewhere . Nope.

 That frkn car would start and run on a battery that tested Dead. Now, if you know any chemistry you know that’s not possible. Period. No battery acid = no current = no spark.

The wife claims she kept it going with her good thoughts. That’s the best explanation I’ve got.

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Abguy4.

Let's just call it an evolution of consciousness, but I will concede the distinct possibility that some of the influences over humanity may not be of terrestrial origins.

I've gone to the trouble to document the existence of intelligent life on our planet going back many, many millions of years, subterranean civilizations, cycles of humanity going to extremely advanced civilizations, only to have to start over from Stone Age primitive Life multiple times.

It is just as likely that earth was seeded by intelligent life, as it is, that people native to this planet seeded the galaxy.

If you combine the capacity for interstellar travel, and add millions, if not billions of years, anything is possible.

In the great debate between flat Earth and round earth, I'm finding it highly likely that it is hollow, containing life, with civilizations that are nearly as old as the planet itself.

There also appears to be the existence of subterranean cities within the Earth's crust, so it's not an either/or, it's both.

That brings us to the question of whether or not humanity has been influenced by advanced civilizations, either terrestrial, or extraterrestrial.

The evidence seems to point to both. Bottom line, life gets around, and this is inherent to creation itself.

I guess we can answer this question the same way Icke did, and ask if it really matters?

If earth is being ruled, or influenced, by highly advanced entities that do not dwell on our planets surface, what difference does it make whether or not they are native to our planet or not make? 

You could even conclude that reptilian's are native to our planet, and human beings are not. A lot can happen with billions of years of evolution.

A couple of weeks ago, I listened to a presentation by Linda Moulton Howe, reporting that human civilizations that date back 17 million years are currently being excavated in Antarctica, and sanitized by the United States government.

This seems to alarm her, that the United States government would keep such secrets.

Maybe, she's finally outgrowing her capacity to remain naïve.

I found this particular video relatively profound,

And it would make anyone a fabulous bedtime story.

Sweet dreams.

Linda Moulton Howe Reveals Some of the Biggest Secrets EVER Discovered

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Published on Mar 16, 2018

Linda Moulton Howe opens up her Real X-Files of revelations coming from whistleblowers, touching on the secret alien war, Antarctica and people in the alien abduction syndrome about friendly and unfriendly agendas of non-human intelligences from the ancient past to the present day. Interestingly, Howe give indepth discussion on the strange phenomenon Navy pilot's observed of UFOs in and around the South Pole, a secret 1954 training manual about ET technology. Are we being toyed with by extraterrestrials? Are there entities somewhere out there waiting to gain entrance into our minds and hearts and souls through any means possible? Are we pawns in a cosmic chess game between the forces of light and darkness?

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Yes, I fully agree with your wife, you can keep an old car going with good thoughts.

I've been doing it to my car for the last 40 years. angel

PS, her lower separator plates were still damp. wink

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[quote=Mr. Fix]If space,

[quote=Mr. Fix]

If space, time, and matter, are manifestations of our imagination, is the math that we calculate them by also a figment of imagination?

NO! They operate according to established laws.

All events have already occurred. The mind separates them so we are not overwhelmed. Cycles are the study of how events occur within the time, space dimension. Cycles can be collapsed. Einstein told us this. A problem state has a beginning, middle and end. Dysfunctional cycles can be collapsed. The smaller the group, the easier it is for a group to overcome dysfunctions. Society and political structures have little mobility. BUT if enough people raise their consciousness high enough certain realities DO NOT have to happen.

Here's the thing:

Tapping space time, parallel universes, instantaneous intergalactic travel, and turning pure energy into any type of matter can be achieved with technology, once the underlying principles are understood.

You don't need any machinery. The higher self already exists outside time, it is omnipresent, omniscient. If it operates outside of time and space, you can be in all places, at all times.

Ok, I understand your brain might not be able to grasp this concept because it is used to operating in linear time, but people through time have experienced multiple levels of dreams. Dreams within a dream. and one of the qualities of a higher consciousness is being aware of multiple things at the sametime. This is an art of shifting ones attention. 

The sheaths covering it, the body, mind and emotions that reside in 3d prevent you from discovering your true potential. That is the spiritual journey. 

This is equally true when you apply consciousness to the equation, because ultimately, whether it is an evolution of consciousness, or a development of high technology, what is achievable, is only limited by imagination.

But here's the thing, I don't think it's only imagination, and I'll give you an example. Will your car run without any gas in it, if you simply believe that it will?

Read one of Brad Steigers books "In MY Soul I am Free" Paul Twitchell fixed somebodies turn signals with consciousness alone. He collapsed the wave function. Made it rain. Was able to travel out of the body at a young age.

It's more than believe. You'd have to be concruent with the idea at all levels but also possess special sidis powers that are outside most mortal beings. BUT theoretically, it's possible. Just not for you and me.

How about if there's a group consensus that you can drive cross country in a Tesla with dead batteries? Will a plant grow without sunlight, water or nutrients, if you just give it "good vibes”?

No. Nor can I imagine being a woman and then become a woman. There are some illusions that are pretty permanent

Reality has basic operating rules, without going into the fact that many of the ones we have been taught are pure bullshit.

If a group consensus decides that gravity is just an illusion, do we all begin to fly? 

Yes.

Einstein concluded that you couldn't’t bend local space time.. The principles of relativity say that you cannot have a local curvature of space time. If you can’t curve local space time then you can’t transcend gravity because it takes a large body, such as the sun, to curve space time. 

Einstein was working from faulty assumptions when he developed his theory of relativity. The quaternion math yielded the normal electromagnetic field and a scalar field, which when combined yields the potential of a unified filed theory. That is right. At the time of the Civil War, Physicists Maxwell was able to unite the forces of electromagnetism and gravity through his quaternion approach. Unfortunately, when he died the original equations were lost and Einstein learned the truncated Versions.

It was Heavisides’ vectors, the electricians studied in school, not Maxwells quaternions. It’s really hard to understand how Heaviside seemingly just said to himself, “Let’s just get rid of that.” We lost the understand of Maxwell’s united field theory right then and there. the simple vector based approach of what was to become the current version of Maxwell’s theory of electromagnetism lost something important in translation.

A scalar potential defines two vectors that, when added together, add up to zero. The two vectors angles are perpendicular to each other and they sum up to a”directional vector of zero.” The two perpendicular waves cancel out the directional component. When you have a a situation, your combined actor has no defined direction that can be measured; only a force of magnitude remains. Since no internal geometries are even poisted as the result of different multivevtot systems, the net sum of a scalar would be zero. The geometries that the vectors can be configured with will change the quantum information potential of the scalar wave.

I’m not going to continue other then recommend you read Farrell’s book on the Philadelphia Experiment. And Miracle of Physics by Bartlett. 

I am saying that gravity is a result of consensus reality. What the group believes to be true. Somewhere in our human history this took over. It wasn’t always this way.

 Let's take your example with markets.

If we all decide that a particular commodity is going to skyrocket in value tomorrow, does this effect the psychopath with the computer behind the curtain?

Yes. Your reality effects others. 

If everyone believes the markets are going to move in one particular direction, it almost guarantees that it will move in the exact opposite direction.

The believe that gold will go up because of faulty understanding of market dynamics does not make gold go up anymore than a faulty believe that the earth is flat makes the earth flat. A concentrated effort of a group using their imagination has been proven. I will tell you about the story of Dr. Divine's church another day where he used his congregation to build his empire and change the headlines.

After all, the psychopaths that govern market direction, profit greatly by convincing everyone it's going to go one way, while betting the opposite.

I'm running out of time. This is an AM question. He is addressed this many times. Some of the stuff AM teaches, and I have been studying get to the core of going behind the psychic waves that push and pull investors to go in and out investments without higher information. There are psychic waves that we are effected by. I know somebody that has had a problem impulsively going in the market. He realized he is being pulled in by outside forces. This is another subject. Too much stuff in one post. 

I do like your assertion that there were no such things as cycles before they were invented by humans. I suspect heavy duty market manipulation was the intended goal.

I didn't say humans invented cycles. They create the events that act according to cycles. All events have occurred and are completed. They have to play out in 3d universe according to the rules of numbers. There is no such thing as chance. Numbers are divine realities in play in the human domain. 

That post pertaining to David Icke really wasn't a query about flat Earth versus a spherical one, it had more to do with the nature of reality.

We had this discussion a few weeks back. I asked you what's the difference between a fact and reality. I think we were speaking about guns? I forgot.

I told you I don't usually recommend these type of books but it's pretty good. Look for the pdf online if you have to. I have a hard copy somewhere. Learn what greats mass events. Were we talking about the shooting?

I get that consciousness effects reality, as in mind over matter, and that the universe is a mental construct.

But something, has been constructed. For example, if I build something, such as a house, or a car, and I don't bother to tell you, one day, you show up at my place, and according to your model, if you don't believe I have a house or a car, you won't see them.

No because I can't overcome the reality of it being present. You, your family, your neighbors, all the contractors, you are now in a government data base. That's a large morphic field. VERY POWERFUL statement of existence. I can't imagine you out of existence or your property. Likely. 

And where exactly does mass deception play into this? For example, if everybody watches the mainstream news, and buys the narrative that the economy is doing great, puts forth all bogus economic numbers, does this make it true?

In their minds, yes. It could have an effect but it's probably like flat earth. a pile of false assumptions.

I'll have to finish another time. This quantam stuff can be very very tricky. It takes more than a believe. It takes a bit of grace.

Abguy told a story a few weeks about going to a seminar and a guy or two HAD IT. I've seen that two. And I've experienced reality outside what most people could put their head around. Some of it wasn't me. Some of it was grace. A higher power stepping in to show me. I had to go 1/2 way and express interest. But of myself, I couldn't have produced what I experienced. Or maybe I did at some level.

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Fix, It would take an inordinate amount of time to address all your questions in a way that I feel would be complete and would deal with your questions/doubts. Abguys response is coming from the same experience/direction as a I am.

I am not saying this stuff is easy. I had to read quantam physics books, and I read alot of healing books, and went to seminars and I had to really contemplate these things. Read sentences over and over again until the meaning came to me.

Quantam physics is not something you learn. It's something you catch.

I've recommended this book before.

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