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Solsson wrote:Marty has

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Marty has great educational and communicative skills but he is really lacking skills in the logical/mathematical area.

Solsson, you're a nice guy too. Somehow you can tell who the decent human beings are.   

HOWEVER, it would have been much more effective, if you would have watched the video (maybe you did?) and provided Silver66 and the forum with one specific analysis of any one of the arguments that were made for flat earth.  JUst one.  

Despite not wanting to spend two hours watching those video's, and really not wanting to spend the time writing about flat earth, Silver66 is one of the most honest, decent people on these forums.  And since I knew nobody else would take the time to address it, or consider the arguments, I did.  

Maybe Marty doesn't have great logical/mathematical skills.  I have no idea.   But than we have another logical problem.  Why would AM mention that youtube was shadow banning him or whatever they are doing to him, if he is a person that gives out disinformation.   I never really followed up on that whole thread, and probably wouldn't have thought of looking at it if Silver66 wasn't the only person on two forums to comment on it.   I find that strange.   

So you stating that Marty Leeds has no logic and no math skills, and not sharing one example of how he got it wrong, does nobody any good.  

I still like you.  You are still a good person.  But that does nobody any good. 

Silver66 is one of the few people here that constantly displayed intellectual curiosity.   Read the books.   Asked questions and did research outside the forum on his own.   

There is a difference between knowing the world is round because you know it's round and participating in the exercises, if for nothing else to hone your thinking skills.  

I have no idea if I could solve some of the other math/science paradox's and claim superior thinking skills to others who are investigating flat earth. 

An example of this is the stupid jpg that Sparticus posted asserting that he knew better.  If the earth was flat, it could very well  ecclipse the sun.  THINK PEOPLE, not like Sparticus.   All you would have to do is change the declination of the flat surface.  And since NOBODY here understands the differences in heliocentric and geocentric astrology, I'd been a fool to bring it in. 

Silver66 made his point, and he was attacked.  

Good job forum.  

Peace out.  I'll deal with Barter and Turd privately.  

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Green Lantern wrote: Solsson

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Marty has great educational and communicative skills but he is really lacking skills in the logical/mathematical area.

Why would AM mention that youtube was shadow banning him or whatever they are doing to him, if he is a person that gives out disinformation. I never really followed up on that whole thread, and probably wouldn't have thought of looking at it if Silver66 wasn't the only person on two forums to comment on it. I find that strange.   

So you stating that Marty Leeds has no logic and no math skills, and not sharing one example of how he got it wrong, does nobody any good.  

Tx for the post GL yes Ok, fair enough I will do that. Just bcos I got it registered in my backbone that doesn't mean that everybody gets it. It happens at work all the time. I didn't say that he had no skills, just limited skills. If you read about the subject you would know.

I confronted AM about it in Setup but he went silent. From a post here in DOTS I am positive that he is a sphere believer. The thing about shutting down Marty Leeds YT was all about the video "We must talk about the jews". His YT channel is still alive or if it's a new one called Marty Leeds live.

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Well Solson, you can explain

Well Solson, you can explain to me another time why all the people getting blocked from youtube, nobody ever gets blocked? Or do they?   I understand it to be an algorithm that puts forward the MSM and hides the video's.   Alex Jones was yelling, they are taking me off, they are taking me off.  Notta. 

Last time, I asked everybody went, uhhh, welll, it's happening, but I can't say exactly what.   Nobody remembers?  

What good are unsupported statements.   I guess it passes the time? RAHHHHLSJDF!

I do think a couple of examples were provided at some point. 

So consider me a person who doesn't understand other than the algorithms hiding the good stuff.  But I don't give a shit.   It's still available and I don't click on ads or MSM stuff they put in my face.   

I have confidence if they all disappear, I have some tools to figure out alot of stuff or know where I can go. 

It seems to me that overtly deleting content would cause mass chaos for their business model.  I'm not saying, THEY haven't deleted stuff,  but obviously it's conspiracy guys that have lower popularity.   So alternative community needs to get their shit together, and put it on one of the alternative sites.   And let the sleeping idiots watch youtube. 

Now, I have to pro-actively seek out Corbett Report because he left twitter, I think he left youtube.  He walks his talk.   It's not a problem for me to be proactive.  If the problem is mass laziness, than maybe we deserve it. 

People gotta start asking questions.   I don't need to do it here anymore.  There alot of smart people out there.  I know where to find them.   My guess is the majority here doesn't understand.  But I'm glad you asked for clarification.  

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Maybe it's better the idiots

Maybe it's better the idiots inherit this forum and fill it with sophistry.  None of you are going to call it out.   Without exception, I was the only one to call out disinformation, fake news which pissed everybody off.    There is a certain justice in that. 

And those of you will play, I see nothing, I got better things to do, will actually find better things to do than read sophistry and ad hominen day after and pretend.  Decisions, decisions, decisions. 

Ruffian, I see the nit wit is still feeding your head.  I'll be watching for him too. 

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Funny you should mention Sherlock Holmes GL

That was my last name for many years, gained by being adopted as a poor white child, living in the streets, with mom doing what all mom's do when Hard Times befall a family.  Uh, just kidding about living in the street. But Pip Holmes and mom got married in the 50's.  He adopted me as his heir to Pemberton Holmes, his multi generational family business. The marriage failed and we left Canada but I got some of the best of his guidance and fatherly advice along with his Magna Cartian belief in property right and law  Being a member of that family as well as DNA member of the pugnacious knife fighting Craig clan I grew up with a chip on my shoulder the size of a telephone pole, looking at the world through eyes that saw adversity at all turns.

That could have gone two ways.  Bad was falling into the pit.  Good was knowing natural law  was in my bones and following that course.  Good won out after a long battle. 

For 60 years my natural direction is to help where I can, protect those who are being put upon, using my aggression and knife fighting nature to wrestle out a career that gave out one prize per fight.  No Special Olympics where I lived. If you won the skirmish or battle you got paid.  If you lost, Glen Gary Glen Ross awaited, giving you the fate of Machine Levine and 4 plastic sporks. ABC

I'd say my attitudes over the last 10 years have soften. Flogging the adrenals 24/7, like those women prison guards who will probably shorten their lives by 20 years, suffering a constant flight or flight response, I decided to reel it in a notch in the business world and take a more peaceful path.  

Unless someone attacks friends or family.  That means war

A good friend, decorated Marine Colonel, gave me words of advice a few years back. 

'Don't make enemies for free'  

People who chose that path die young or in terribly bad health, a wreck of their former selves.  Some decide to infest a site like dyspeptic vultures who think it's ok to shit where they live

Recognizing that indiscriminate aggression against known adversaries might do nothing to put a  worthy cause on solid ground. Knowing collateral damage is an inevitable part of the fight; a laser focus on target works, allowing for conservation of ammunition and protection of allies in the battle.   I chose targets carefully while making allies where possible

We see the center struggling to hold when reasonable thoughtful people want to come together to hash things out.   They might feel overwhelmed by harpies and furies. If I have any job of work before me it's working to bring like minded people of all stripes together to provide for the common good.  My best effort to date is create my personal Band of Brothers, aka BOB and work the boards on SD.

As for the dopplegangers and poltergeists who waft  like swamp vapors on to a site, these web bots, trollerati and paid agents of destruction are dealt with the same way I would deal with a home invasion or a spy during war time.  

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"without exception, I was the only one to call out disinformation here"

Mighty full of yourself aren't you?  I called out some disinformation....YOU saying Sinclair was running a Ponzi.

Remember that!!!!  

Why don't you just leave me out of all your bullshit? I really don't want any part of it.

Go ahead, free up that large part of the mush between your ears that I occupy for free.

That was my only sin on this board, exposing your LIE and you can't get over it.

You're forgiven. Let it go.

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sengfarmer wrote:"without

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"without exception, I was the only one to call out disinformation here"

Mighty full of yourself aren't you?  I called out some disinformation....YOU saying Sinclair was running a Ponzi.

Remember that!!!!  

Why don't you just leave me out of all your bullshit? I really don't want any part of it.

Go ahead, free up that large part of the mush between your ears that I occupy for free.

That was my only sin on this board, exposing your LIE and you can't get over it.

You're forgiven. Let it go.

Somebody shut this fuck up and post the debt scheme of Tanzanian Royalty.    They are running out of money. 

Somebody call up Brent Cook, Rick Rule, and Global Resources and that other geologist.  They all know but won't publicly say what they know.   Go ahead fuck ahead, pick up a phone and dial.  

Somebody post Seekingalpha articles from 2011 that Sinclair wouldn't respond to.   You have a defense asshole?   

You're in the fucking red and you're sinking deeper and deeper.  Your wife, if you have one should kick your fucking ass.  

And NO DIPSHIT, my mines have been making money. 

Secondly, you've had testimonies from Ruffianiwho wouldn't tell us what she knows bUT SHE KNOWS.  YOU forgot to ask her. .  .  You just had a testimony from Goldway feeling taken by the man.  You forgot to ask her what's wrong?  You have a problem with your brain. 

And others know but mum is the word.   He was wrong!! 

POST THE SHIT!!! YOU DIP SHIT.  FUCK YOU TOO.  That is the only thing I will contribute to this forum form here on in.  

You show your ass.  I'll tell you to fuck off.  

Cliff steps out here if he can stop lying and I insert it past his sphincter into his large intenstines, past his houston valve, to his neck.  

You fuckers spend time on the shadow side of the blog talking about people like little gossips.   Instead of exchanging important  useful information.   SLOGS. 

Some of you old folks  have spent years of  your old lifes, what little is left, trying to take me down.  PATHETIC. 

SENGFARMER YOU ARE A TROUBLE MAKER< A TROLL and A LIAR and a LURKER WHO KNOWS NOTHING.  You wouldn't understand the truth if it slapped you in your face.   Your among the group of the deplorable. 

I posted the debt scheme.  

His model was WRONG.  WRONG WRONG, WRONG.   Go ahead say it.   

They've been saying the same thing for 10 years that you've been recurtiating because you understand nothing else.   

STand up, defend you purchase, or I'll spend every fucking moment sticking it to you if I see you are lurking or post on this website.  I already posted the information.  

You dont' belong here.  You are not capable of contributing other than troll you.  So go fuck yourself along with the other liars.   

Got it farmer bitch?  

Leave you out? .  YOu're in.  You're in deep.  Getting on your hands and knees won't help. 

And by the way, all you guys remember Jim Rickards.  You stopped posting him too.  That book he put it out that talked about how China was going to dump all our bonds over night?   How's it going? 

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Just highlighting for

Just highlighting for purposes of retention..

Unless someone attacks friends or family.  That means war

People who chose that path die young or in terribly bad health, 

Knowing collateral damage is an inevitable part of the fight; 

As for the dopplegangers and poltergeists who waft  like swamp vapors on to a site, these web bots, trollerati and paid agents of destruction are dealt with the same way I would deal with a home invasion or a spy during war time.  

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Ruffian, You're good person.

Ruffian, You're good person.  You got warts like the rest of us.   You got spunk and people like that.   You've said alot of things that people want to hear other people say to make them feel good about how they feel.  That works!! 

But you have to stop defending people who dig their own graves.  They pull you down.  

Pleading with them to stop, like you've done on previous occaisions won't work.  It doesn't work.  

You're on some shadow web with others who want to stop others from stealing our liberty.  You say you put yourself in the way of bodily harm for the cause.  

But there are people right here using the same tactics as those dipshits.  

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Ok this picture proves the

Ok this picture proves the curvature perfectly.

If the earth is flat both pictures would look exactly the same as the lower picture. Marty says:

and again he says that the pictures are almost identical. Of course they are not, 60meters are missing! The mirage is irrelevant bcos the picture is stable and not floating around. You would get the same view if the sky was cloudy setting the mirage phenomena out of play. Toronto is not in the polar area or surrounded by snow.

 

Two ignorant comments.

Then he refers to a balloon flight. 23miles, funny number by the way, isn't nearly enough.
You must go much higher to see the curvature.

A superior mirage occurs when the air below the line of sight is colder than the air above it. This unusual arrangement is called a temperature inversion, since warm air above cold air is the opposite of the normal temperature gradient of the atmosphere. Passing through the temperature inversion, the light rays are bent down, and so the image appears above the true object, hence the name superior. Superior mirages are in general less common than inferior mirages, but, when they do occur, they tend to be more stable, as cold air has no tendency to move up and warm air has no tendency to move down.

Superior mirages are quite common in polar regions, especially over large sheets of ice that have a uniform low temperature. Superior mirages also occur at more moderate latitudes, although in those cases they are weaker and tend to be less smooth and stable. For example, a distant shoreline may appear to tower and look higher (and, thus, perhaps closer) than it really is. Because of the turbulence, there appear to be dancing spikes and towers. This type of mirage is also called the Fata Morgana or hafgerdingar in the Icelandic language.[1]

A superior mirage can be right-side up or upside down, depending on the distance of the true object and the temperature gradient. Often the image appears as a distorted mixture of up and down parts.

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Confucius and Sun Tsu walk into a bar

The barkeep asks them   "Gentlemen, What do you want" (an epistemological question for the ages)

Confucius and Sun Tsu sat on their stools, contemplating that question for a few hours.

"Your strongest green tea,  if you please" said Confucius

Sun Tsu,  in a more reflective mood, thinking of the men who were no longer with him; the friends who remained and those who failed him, the nature of his foes and direction of his battles, then asked for a snifter of roughly distilled brandy

They both sat for a few more hours, sipping their beverages, deep in the deepest thoughts men can have  in tumultuous times.

As the sun lowered in the skies, casting shadows in the bar, Sun Tsu knew he was in the company of The Master, his time was limited, recognizing he'd have one and only  one opportunity to pose a question of sufficient gravity to elicit reply from The Master.   

Knowing Confucius was a man of infinite patience and peace,  emphasizing  personal and governmental morality, correctness in social responsibility, justice and sincerity*, his answer might help Tsu in his present quandary.

"Master, I have a question of you"

"When I take the measure of a foe, find myself fighting fairly, and the adversary is getting the best of my troops, what should I do?"

"General,  replied Confucius, if you find you're fighting fair your tactics suck ass big time"

'And the next round is on you'

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Great Post, Bro

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Noted before, it is a relentlessly grim book, each page filled with a climatic disaster worse than the last.  It is also a page turner

If you still live in the great European landmass  or your family moved to the new world, you are descendent from some extremely tough people.  From 1,300 to around 1880 AD, the entire world experienced a cooling trend that created a climate that was unrelentingly cold.  It would seem that a modest 3-5 degree decline in world wide temperatures would mean much but that made the difference between growing crops that fed a country or desperate famine and pestilence.

Kagan focussed on the greater European land mass including Iceland and Greenland but did mention how the Big Freeze killed tens of  million in India and China, while causing unrelenting difficulties in the ME.  The book is very well researched and meticulous in anecdotal details of the gruesomely and unrelentingly harsh 550 plus years.  It was like this land area could not catch a break

Suffice it to say climate change, with cold periods lasting decades, quickly moving to snap warming times with drought, made life during that time period short nasty and brutish.   90% of the people were impoverished peasants and serfs with little or no claim to land, working 14 hours a day to till a scant amount  land for of grain, greens and potatoes that almost never filled their bellies. There was never enough arable land due to the weather and archaic agriculture technology that saw no change for 5,000 years. But for short periods of maybe a year or two, maybe even a decade, when weather was conducive to growing abundant crops, the land produced sporadically or produced nothing at all.

Life span was as little as 25 years.  40 year old was ancient.  Whole countries were depopulated.  Even France saw an almost 50% population loss over a century or so, starting with the devastation of Y Pestis that came hard on the heels of a harsh cold snap that lasted for what seemed like decades.   They didn't know the year. They just called it Hard Times.

The ending chapter of this book talked about the worst famine, one I call the Potato Holomodor.  When the Irish monoculture food source was hit by blight around 1842 or so, for the next 10 years Ireland suffered one of the worst famines in European history, losing 25% of their population to starvation and disease, conditions that forced Irish to emigrate to the new world by the millions. 

The population loss was so great that Ireland did not see a positive growth in its population until 1960

Not 1860 

1960. 

120 years after the famine did it's worst.  That is some serious stuff in my opinion.

The collective memory of the Irish is still scarred by this event 170 later.  The Irish hold a deep and unalloyed hatred for the English due to policies taken during the worst years Their collective and genetic memories may never forget that event.

When I think about both my mother's side of the family (Clan Craig), fathers( biological and adoptive side), most members of these 3 families came  directly from Ireland at dates specific to their move to the new country.

One line traced it's lineage to 13th Century Ireland. moving to the new world in 1850. 

One line left in 1864.  

It explains a lot of  the nature of  or our family even today but what impressed me is the complete and utter wretchedness of all people's lives through both the potato famine as well as surviving 550 years of the little ice age. I don't mean to focus just on the Irish because French, Belgium, Nordic, Spanish, Italian, English and other countries suffered gravely due to the Little Ice Age, but the potato famine hits close to home, knowing how it shaped the  nature of 3 families.

If you  and your family hark from the European land mass anytime in the last 3 centuries or you still live in that area, you come from some of the toughest people that ever lived.  The fact that you can read these words means your family survived for centuries in what could only be described as a climatological dark ages. 

I don't know how many blood lines existed  in this European land mass, including Iceland and Greenland,  at around 1,300 AD. I'd wager a considerable amount of coin that only a small fraction of those blood lines survived from 1,300 to 1880, a time when the climate began warming and life was not just a matter of surviving one day to the next;  one growing season to another.

Those survivors were able to continue the family line  partly by luck and partly by survivors natural drive to live. Moving to our modern era our ancestors were raw survivors of a type seldom seen today.  It's very easy for a family blood line to become extinct.  All they have to see is a couple of generations where an entire family died off or simply failed to reproduce.

One side note

There is not a single person in America who does not have a life so incomparably better than a European peasant in 1340, 1670, 1816 or 1845 that their life  today could be compared to that of a gentry.

Yes, I exaggerate about there not being a single American who find company in the short hasty brutish life of the typical landless serf whose family lived in rags, scavenged for food rotting in the fields,  slept in the fields or rude huts, with food privation always present, disease never less than one pandemic away and who's most meager possessions were subject to tax or theft by anyone with a bigger club or army. War was a never ending cycle, exacerbated by privation, starvation and the never ending quest for land and food.

There are few that would fall to that level of privation including the homeless but I've not met a person who's live was so bad they might fall to the level of a medieval serf.

I am really in a state of awe how difficult life was during this 550 year time period. It makes me triply thankful for what bounty we have. I live better than almost king, potentate, gentry or nobility, a life filled  with luxuries unthinkable 300 years ago .  Image result for norman rockwell industry [pic added - so fitting]

I take  it so for granted that it does not occur to me to give thanks for the bounty that comes from my father's and mother's families and their ability to survive to carry on our lines.

We are blessed beyond imagination and I not mean that in the biblical sense If you want to know your ancestors this book is worth reading and can be finished in half a day, while sitting in a hammock or easy chair, sipping a cold beverage with a plate of food in the fridge and probably not a worry in the world except something that is probably kind of meaningless in the overall scheme of things

Good stuff!

My only quibble would be that in an evolutionary context, tough = smart. Social Cooperation, Low Time Preference, K-selection, Familial Bonding (monogamy and nuclear family vs. 'it takes a village' ), etc. 

I think you'll like this history tidbit video. No /sarc. 

There's a phrase at the end that some anon at DHS just trolled the Left with.

"Homeland Security Officials Say Claims That Statement Mimics A White Supremacist Slogan Are Merely Conspiracy Theories

https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/homeland-security-statement-theory?utm_term=.oik0gzkxp#.ev8Q1Kw6A

The February press release has a 14-word title, "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again,"

surprise.

Seriously though, your post is PURE, as good as  President Trump's controversial 'dogwhistle' on Europe. The implicit becoming explicit, a little more each day.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/13/trumps-comments-on-european-immigration-mirror-white-nationalist-rhetoric/?utm_term=.430785d1fbde

Glad you liked that post about the spiders traveling.

The slings and arrows, the false allegations, the revenge-porn fantasies about me bleeding, the plagiarism, the big hubbub to distract from getting caught in said plagiarism ... all are borne so easily when I see good folks appreciating posts about facts and science. Thank you for the encouragement, AGX.

Plagiarism is smart-guy seppuku. When your currency, your credibility, is words and ideas, plagiarism is a fatal error.

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Ruffian wrote: So whoever is

Ruffian wrote:

So whoever is doing that shit,  fucking quit it. This ain't Reddit here. 

Edit: this site is OFF LIMITS for that crap. So whoever is doing it STOP. 

Ruffian wrote:

If it was IRB he has the firepower to do thousands .... It's not his MO to be honest. 

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is this thing on?

Green Lantern wrote:

Ruffian wrote:

So whoever is doing that shit,  fucking quit it. This ain't Reddit here. 

Edit: this site is OFF LIMITS for that crap. So whoever is doing it STOP. 

Ruffian wrote:

If it was IRB he has the firepower to do thousands .... It's not his MO to be honest. 

Exactly. Ruffian knows that there is no world in which I would be caught dead manually making accounts at a minute a pop like some boomer on their AOL account or their Cricket phone. I'd be laughed out of WonkasScriptFactory so fast ... To hat tip YOU, you say? ok. Besides, I'm with her. DOTS is recreational. No place for tictacs, and no point.

Where is the proof of the last allegation ... the gun threat?

She also knows I use a VPN to do so much as email my Momma. Where would you like my traffic to originate from? She also knows that if I'm going to trigger a D-Block, I route my traffic through something that is embarrassing to shut off, like the medical establishment of Angola or something. 

GL, I know you have an affinity/predilection for references to feces and gas. Perhaps this is a simple case of 'whoever smelt it, dealt it'

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solson- this picture proves

That was an Ideal post IMHO. You made your points persuasively and challenged his points directly.

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Green Lantern wrote:Ruffian

Green Lantern wrote:

Ruffian wrote:

If it was IRB he has the firepower to do thousands .... It's not his MO to be honest. 

That's great thing to have on a forum that looks at the deceit of the banker class, and political class. 

To have the ability to do something, and choose not to, is not wrong. It's like if you and I were in a room, your pacifism is irrelevant, but my pacifism has consequence.  

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Probably not Stacks.

Definitely not Stack. I could send him a script (fresh from Angolan IP), but he wouldn't want it. He's cutting down trees and dodging bears. And meta-minutia of a forum is, I think, much less important to him than it is someone else here.

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POGIE You're back

Cool.  

Since you're back, try writing something original instead of dragging links, pics, art work and writings of others along other material you plagiarized,  reflective of people more thoughtful, intelligent and creative than you, in order to confer something of a substantive nature to your work. 

Projecting your white nationalistic racist zenophobic tendencies on others doesn't stick.  It's repetitive and tedious, not that you have anything better to offer.    Face it , you don't make the cut.

You're not up to the challenges offered on this forum.   May I suggest you traipse on over Zero Hedge and hook up with Bob Eore, one of my old homies from another board.  He and you would find common cause in very short order.

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ok

so much for trying to be civil. Are you embarrassed yet of your new friend's rage and vulgarity? No? What a foul old man. I'm sure your kids have a plan. 

#DayOfThePillow it is, then laugh

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"writings of others along other material you plagiarized"

Stack already gave you the definition of that word. Accept helpwhen needed. You clearly don't know what that word means ... and even if you did, it's obviously not a practice you find fault with. 

not fit to post? Oh noez! You mean I can't hang with the FlatErf debate? "The only thing we have to fear, is the sphere itself"

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Of all the things..... Balderdash!! Another Sunday in Montana!

Back reading the pages till last Sunday - I find that our merry band of berserker's have fallen tough times, feeding and hacking on one-another, rather than some common enemy or foe. Is this form of self immolation to be the new norm? Are we to degenerate to name calling, feces throwing, and jawbone waving?... For crips' sake, man....(he, she, it, unkn, etc) We have identified the 900 lb Gorilla in the room (as this Grand Minimum now upon us as a blue marble entity)...should we not be giving king Kong a poke in the eye and kick in the shin; rather than each other?...

FWIW.... we are now on July 15th.... historically, by this date, we are showing brown/tan hillsides here in SW MT... This year, we are still "green" due to nearly DOUBLE normal (last 40-60 years) rainfall. These "flip-flops" or disruptions in what our human perception says is "normal" for our given area(s) are classic examples of the run-up to a fully effective Grand Minimum period within that larger cycle...ie: 206 yr or 411 years, etc... In such "planet wide" events (ie: climate) most humans only "note" or "register" much shorter event spans in much more localized regions or areas. ie: we don't move around enough, nor do we live long enough, to have personal knowledge - in our local synapse's.

We are weathering thru my wife's recovery from triple-bypass surgery. My colorectal cancer is re-occured, I'll be seeing my  surgeon soon... Life is tough and then you get old, this end of the stick is not for sissies ... Just met up with a friend from Alaska, drove down the Alcan and will tour the northern states before returning north. Loaned him a radio amplifier so he can run 6m in some grids along the way. Half of 2018 is gone - used up. Wonder what will come with the remaining half?.  One day at a time.... Check-6

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