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Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 5:35pm (Reply to #18239)
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Mr. Fix wrote:

Mr. Fix wrote:
America's Moral Hypocrisy Since 1776 - The David Icke Videocast Trailer

It's a big club and we're not in it.

Here is Ron Paul discussing Trump's new executive order on global asset forfeiture. He obviously has heard the rumors too that this was designed to take down Hillary (maybe others) but why would you need an executive order when laws against her election fraud are on the books? there is obviously laws against murder which the MSM anti-establishment doesn't discuss? There are laws against what the Clinton Foundation alledged doing with ill gotten money's and what they did in Haiti.

He makes another point that the r'aison d'etre behind this executive order is unclear. The very first video Fix posted included Hillary and Obama, yet, there names were never mentioned. I pointed out that some of his early executive orders were similarly vague. And vague is a useful tool both for his supporters, and against his enemies.

I do find it interesting that we are living in a nation where most people aren't exactly sure what our President is doing. You could see that as a good thing, and you could see the same technique as not a very good thing for a republic. But we all know we aren't living in a working republic right now.

New Trump Executive Order: Good Move Or Global Asset Forfeiture?
Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 5:44pm
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most people aren't exactly sure what our President is doing

I do find it interesting that we are living in a nation where most people aren't exactly sure what our President is doing. You could see that as a good thing, and you could see the same technique as not a very good thing for a republic.

Let me clear-up yur confusion;

1) Its a good executive order when your guy (president) does it

2) Its a bad executive order when the other guys' president does it

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 5:51pm
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Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 6:00pm (Reply to #18231)
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Mr. Fix wrote: Now, how was I

Mr. Fix wrote:

Now, how was I supposed to guess you only wanted to drive to the local precinct to surrender?

That wouldn't have been a part of any plan I could have come up with.

I was really thinking in terms of the Ultimate getaway car.

Anyway,

Just filled the car up with gas,

Many miles to go before dawn. cheeky

You weren't supposed to guess. The point of the exericse is to show just how powerful these techniques can be on the mind. The whole process is ascertaining information without pissing off the robbers. He told the authorities that he wanted a car so he could drive to the precinct to surrender, and they assumed that was what they wanted it for. By now, most of the money was gone. He burnt some of it, and hid some of it down, I guess in a basement area in walls.

Vonburpenstein, you get points for working rapport techniques with me both as hostage taker and forum member. Less points because I saw you doing it. More subtle ways to do it with me without being overt. Overt works against you. Like brown nosing people or sucking up to people. nobody likes a yes person,

The problem with asking me what I want before ascertaining any details is that I could have asked for a tank and you'd now be in a position to have to deliver it. Once you promise me something you have to deliver. Just as Donald Trump has to in someway deliver on his promises. 

our common time here is not a big rapport maker and saying you read a book that I read might have some effect in a first meeting by somebody I don't know.

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 6:19pm
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For all you folks tht live on

For all you folks tht live on the east coast above NYC, May the Lord be With you with a portable heater. 

For those of you who live in the midwest

Dear Lord. That's it.

And for those of you who live in Miami. Wait until next Hurricane season. 

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 6:42pm (Reply to #18230)
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While we are working....

...on getting a car, which you know is a challenge...what could we be working toward that would be good for you and keep us all moving toward a peaceful resolution?

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Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 6:45pm (Reply to #18244)
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Did I promise you....

....something?

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Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 6:49pm (Reply to #18244)
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Let's play....I'm here

....and I didn't say I was finished w the book, I gotta be workn and dadn too!

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Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 7:33pm (Reply to #18246)
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vonburpenstein wrote:...on

vonburpenstein wrote:

...on getting a car, which you know is a challenge...what could we be working toward that would be good for you and keep us all moving toward a peaceful resolution?

You're goal is to get me to surrender and not acquiesce to my requests. The goal of this exercise was to show how you can tell somebody NO, without them knowing that you've said no and engaging them in detail.

You forgot the name of the book on your first offer. NEVER SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE.

You proposed a WIN-WIN situation. That's the first thing he teaches that you should never do. It's ineffective and can be disastrous. NO deal is better than a bad deal. And you dealt yourself a bad deal by offering me the car right off and then putting whatever kind of condiment I wanted on top. 

Once you said yes,to my request, you were in trouble. Now you have to deliver the car or you break trust. By asking you to come into the bank, which you didn't reply to, I now have control of the head negiatotor. You don't want to give me power, only the illusion that I am in control. If the key's you given me couldn't open the door remotely, I would have killed you because you broke trust. 

Giving me a car destabilizes the situation and I'm going to make demands, get rid of the police, clear the roads, tunnels and bridges. I have control. Now, I have mobility, human shields, you don't know where the money is (it was already gone in the real life scenario), you don't know who is on the inside with me, and you don't know who is out on the street observing but if you're smart you're already checking plates on every car.

Now to bring this back to real life and politics. When you are in room with a negotiator, assume he is negotiating something for his benefit. 

When a politician, ANY politician, picks up a baby in a crowd, know you're being worked. You are now dealing only with emotions. Now after this, he has your complete attention. Not me. He has lost rapport with me using a parlor trick. NOw, I have to becareful of everything else he is going to say. 

Trump gets baby from crowd

But you say it's ok for somebody to build rapport with you. Well, if you come to my house to do a deal with me, and I see you picking up my baby, commenting on my paintings, or over acting, you've lost my trust. But on a group level it works differently, doesn't it?

You never WANT to be caught gaining rapport with somebody. You want to do it at an unconscious level.

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 7:40pm (Reply to #18248)
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vonburpenstein wrote:....and

vonburpenstein wrote:

....and I didn't say I was finished w the book, I gotta be workn and dadn too!

I had already ascertained that much information after you told me you are reading it.

The exercise was to confirm my assumption. 

We'll do it again after you finish reading the book.

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 8:26pm
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it gets even better

I just learned this tonite

some of you ''Gulf syndrome'' vets may already be aware......................whatta pile of DOTS in 5 min.~~!!

https://youtu.be/euw7Lh6XrxM?t=2461

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 8:48pm
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The boy is stepping all over

The boy is stepping all over my stuff. 

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!

Thu, Dec 28, 2017 - 10:59pm (Reply to #18249)
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Wish I had more time...

....I'll be through shortly but I never actually offered you the car, I asked what? And you said to get you a bullet proof car...then I had my response...telling you no right off the bat to show who is in charge?...that' not what I read...a good read regardless....and I wasn't joshing you on the pm, so ya know

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Donald deals with it

 Donald can see through the man made global warming scam.

The snowflakes are still dealing with their anxiety and insecurity issues.

Meanwhile the Donald is getting shit done.

Go Donald!

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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 - 12:40am
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Go Donald

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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 - 2:08am
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can the established order be trusted?

not really.

The status quo is riddled with parasites.

The dynamic entity that drives reality is the deal.

All else is an illusion.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Fri, Dec 29, 2017 - 5:24am
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it's an illusion

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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 - 6:04am
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infinite regression

When the logical mind is confronted with something it can't understand, the consciousness expands in an attempt to find an answer???

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Media change .... why? This

Media change .... why?

This commentator notices the use of specific language and keywords in media as it makes a 180 degree turn on climate warm-ism to cool-ism.

'Mini Ice Age' "Overriding" Global Warming: Predictive Programming in Headlines
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 - 9:44am
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