I can’t remember if this was posted previously. Helpful. Still want to be able to do this myself to better assess the peripheral players.
Guess I posted too soon by posting yesterday that I'm gonna give the Artemis CEO the benefit of the doubt. But I'd be remiss not to post the latest dust up here. To follow along better, you should go over to the CEO.ca Novo boards though. https://ceo.ca/nvo It's funny now that two posts there compared him to Robert Friedland after I'd made the same analogy yesterday.
In a nutshell -
A poster names cigarbutts on stockhouse.com is questioning the validity and shadiness of the recent land acquisition by Artemis.
Which prompted this response from CEO David Lenigas:
Either there's something there or Lenigas has seriously thin skin. Neither of which increase your faith in your CEO. This Lenigas guy... sigh.
Hi, Actually I think I would also react to baseless accusation also. He is a CEO of a listed company, so has a reputation to defend - unlike the anon poster.
I can't find any actual quotes that are whiffy. I do wonder where the speculation that the JV is under stress comes from.
I don't know if it's slander or defamation? I have no time for people making unsubstantiated written or verbal attacks on people. It's wrong....plain and simple. Without any evidence to support his allegations, ol cigar butts is going cop it sweet I reckon.
After reading Hot Copper for a week, one of the Aussie posters made sn astute statement that the Aussies invest for pennies and the North Americans imvest for dollars and hold longer. This could lead to conflicting market movement. The Aussie ecpects the Aussies to be priced out with Aussir mines owned by foreign deep pockets. Some logiv there. And posdible amnimosity.
Yesterday Allan Barry Laboucan chaired an investors meeting into the Pilbara region. Keynote speakers: John Kaiser & Dave Lenagas (DL starts at 43:30) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KbKsDdPNyM
Very interesting presentation. And we may see a pink plant on top of Radio Hill.
The Pilbara stocks on the Australian market - mainly ARV and PIO were hit hard on opening today ? Anyone see any info on this other than profit taking ? This cant be only related to the CEO and the land purchase by ARV
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Ronnie 666 wrote: The Pilbara stocks on the Australian market - mainly ARV and PIO were hit hard on opening today ? Anyone see any info on this other than profit taking ? This cant be only related to the CEO and the land purchase by ARV
Not as hard as they were the last few days. And ARV is actually currently up on the day at the moment.
On Australian market ARV currently up 10.8% on the day, after being down almost 10% the first hour of trading. Should be higher here in the US tomorrow. Hopefully the last few days were just a washout and we can turn and the Pilbara stocks can continue higher.
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Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest may get involved??? That'd be an interesting turn of events. He founded Fortescue Metals Group, after having a family Cattle Station (Ranch) in the area. This is turning into a big soap opera....... Maybe Aussies will finally take an interest if Channel 9 makes it into a mini series.
Does sound like DL and QH aren't on the best of terms. It must be bittersweet for QH. He was looking for this play in the wrong place for years. The market (in respect to Novo) has interpreted the staking of 1000s of km^2 as better than a stick save, furthermore, assessing Novo as having the preeminent land tenure for this Conglomerate play.
What do those exploration licenses cover though? The water catchment area for Harding Dam? Millstream National Park? I don't know actually, however, these lands are very close, if not overlapping a substantial percentage of Novo's pegged land. Aboriginal Heritage issues maybe the biggest hurdles??? The depth of the conglomerate is also Unknown.
All of these realities could be biting at QH at the moment. How long is it before Novo shareholders key into these issues?
DL of Artemis at the Exploration Revival Conference which TF Metals Fan posted above said that one reason Artemis was good was that it had its permits, licenses and approvals. He said that the prior owner of a lot of the Artemis land spent 5 years trying to get the heritage agreement, but could not. Artemis was able to get it in two years.
While the Novo news did not seem that big, Novo got the general heritage approval for Comet Well and surrounding land in a very short period of time. It did not take 7 years. Therefore, DL's hype on how valuable their heritage approvals are and how long they take seems a little overblown.
One message board posted said a while back that Comet Well has had a steady stream of people for many years picking up gold nuggets. The sooner Novo can explore its own 100% owned land the better for Novo, and possibly worse for Artemis. I own both but like Novo a lot more. DL makes me nervous. ES did not buy into Artemis, but did buy into many of the other players.
I could be wrong, but the way I read the novo announcement was that they had an agreement to work expeditiously on the approvals and would grant 100,000 novo shares to the aboriginals when the approvals were finalized. Just my take and I too own both Novo and Artemis.
I live in a town with more Aboriginal people than non indigenous folk. Our definition of quick or expeditious is a lot different to theirs. Money issues are treated very differently too. Comet Well might have absolutely no cultural significance to these guys at all - and this could be speed up (I'm sure). All it takes is finding some rock art, burial sites, a suspicion from an Elder or Anthropologist - and this thing will be slowed down, even if 10 million shares were offered.
David Erfie sent a report to his subscribers summarizing his site visit to novo on 11/14.
It is a good read and posted on the hot copper Artemis page by rayz under the leniges Twitter thread. It was posted at 00.50.
he visited Purdy's Reward, Comet Well and 50k.
He said they expect to start trenching at comet well in a few weeks. Can they do trenching without the aboriginal approval? Can they do that without the progress heritage surveys?
He refers to nuggets being dug up at all three sites. He said that at comet well some nuggets had a halo effect which suggests the presence of fine gold.
He said that we should have news about the first trenches at comet well and a few more bulk samples before the drill results. This was news to me, that there would be more bulk samples and that we may hear before the drill results.
thank you Dingo for the post on approvals. Local knowledge is very helpful.
These Australian miners in the Pilbara seemed to have highly diluted share basis. Since Novo had to point out the gold to these mining companies, and most are worth small pennies, and few are producing mines, and some have over a billion outstanding shares, makes you wonder if most of them are just imaginary except for share sales and management income. Investors seem to trade in and out for pennies, and long term would be a goal of 40 cents. Might be a new ballgame of thought going on in Novo land. Maybe production has only been for the weekend prospector. Just first impression.
edit: does appear to be iron ore production.
Novo market cap is around 1 billion (maybe now slightly less).
Artemis market cap 250 million
De Grey: 73 million and than there are smaller ones with a market cap of 25 to 30 million.
If the asset estimates and hopes will be proven correct we will see a lift off in all related shares. In my view the others will need to catch up to the value of Novo first.
Whe this will linger on without further evidence Novo has a long way to fall. And no, I do not believe yet that they possess the best assets. To prove this a lot of digging, drilling, sampling is required. And if this is truly the Wits 2.0 that could take another 10 or more years.
I do own shares in the companies I just mentioned, albeit a relatively small portion in Novo (for the reasons just mentioned).
October Report indicating that fund has 25% in Pilbara projects