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Hey Sengfarmer,  Did you read

Hey Sengfarmer, 

Did you read the latest on that Zimbabwe Hell Hole??? Sorry about that man. Better luck next time. 

Sun, Jul 23, 2017 - 10:03pm (Reply to #14479)
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I Run Bartertown wrote:" I

I Run Bartertown wrote:

" I have two southerners in my oven ready to roast. "

Orly? Listen closely.

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"Run GL. Run, GL.

Duck GL. Duck, GL.

How's your free train ride to the
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On a brighter note, MAGA

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Barter, Pace yourself man. Waay too much content for a troll. You're trying way too hard. Quite honestly, you have no idea what you are doing or where you're going. The rough shot technique eh? 

And most of it doesn't make the least bit of sense. For you to piss people off, you have to make sense. 

It's almost as if you've entered some kind of temporary insanity. Although I'm told that insanity that extracts logic from individuals is very unlikely, however in groups & cults it is common.

And you're on morning to night now. Responding to each and every post. One for all and all for Nana? Did you OD and wife stab you with an adrenaline shot?

With content like that, Nana might have to open a new DOTS to compensate for the pure putrid stink you've been posting since the election. Maybe, she can start a DOTS franchise. One of them might be more interesting the one that she is running now.

You all realize there is only about three people that actually proactively post content?? And now, Barter, AM to PM trolling in the name of NANA. I say go for it. Double your output. . Geopolitical content has almost all but disappeared, and financial commentary flew the coup a long time agooo.

Sun, Jul 23, 2017 - 10:40pm (Reply to #14482)
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Green Lantern wrote: I Run

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I Run Bartertown wrote:

" I have two southerners in my oven ready to roast. "

Orly? Listen closely.

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"Run GL. Run, GL.

Duck GL. Duck, GL.

How's your free train ride to the
East MFer?"

On a brighter note, MAGA

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Barter, Pace yourself man. Waay too much content for a troll. You're trying way too hard. Quite honestly, you have no idea what you are doing or where you're going. The rough shot technique eh? 

And most of it doesn't make the least bit of sense. For you to piss people off, you have to make sense. 

It's almost as if you've entered some kind of temporary insanity. Although I'm told that insanity that extracts logic from individuals is very unlikely, however in groups & cults it is common.

And you're on morning to night now. Responding to each and every post. One for all and all for Nana? Did you OD and wife stab you with an adrenaline shot?

With content like that, Nana might have to open a new DOTS to compensate for the pure putrid stink you've been posting since the election. Maybe, she can start a DOTS franchise. One of them might be more interesting the one that she is running now.

You all realize there is only about three people that actually proactively post content?? And now, Barter, AM to PM trolling in the name of NANA. I say go for it. Double your output. . Geopolitical content has almost all but disappeared, and financial commentary flew the coup a long time agooo.

If you look around the forum and can't tell who the lolcow is, it's you. The lolcow always thinks they are the audience. That's the lolcow's job.

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Sun, Jul 23, 2017 - 11:21pm
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Well at least it is not an

Well at least it is not an echo chamber.

The Goebbels quote mistake is important because once his image is used it does matter who said it. And also who didn't. For a bunch of reasons.

First he's an acknowledged master of propaganda. Putting aside Goebbels huge credibility in that area, it's doubly important if that is NOT actually reflecting his opinion....if he disagreed then it may not even be truthy so when Mr. Fix falls back on how he likes the truth in it he (Mr. Fix) would be inventing truth that matches his story instead of asking the right questions of his story.

Next, advertising. Using a Nazi image with a quote bypasses filters for some people. GL good point that the girl with the grapefruits wouldn't get past Mr. Fix. Interesting to note he's at least a sucker for a man in a good black suit. 

If I read it right it is attributed to more likely have come from Churchill. I see why from an ad point of view Goebbels is preferred. Not sure Churchill was a propaganda master. He was a great leader, gave inspiring speeches and on the side victorious, but the fact that he was prone to dramatic speech means he could just have made that up on the fly because it sounds good.

this conversation is exposing some good obstacles when connecting the dots.

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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 - 12:56am (Reply to #14486)
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HappyNow wrote:

Well at least it is not an echo chamber.

The Goebbels quote mistake is important because once his image is used it does matter who said it. And also who didn't. For a bunch of reasons.

First he's an acknowledged master of propaganda. Putting aside Goebbels huge credibility in that area, it's doubly important if that is NOT actually reflecting his opinion....if he disagreed then it may not even be truthy so when Mr. Fix falls back on how he likes the truth in it he (Mr. Fix) would be inventing truth that matches his story instead of asking the right questions of his story.

Next, advertising. Using a Nazi image with a quote bypasses filters for some people. GL good point that the girl with the grapefruits wouldn't get past Mr. Fix. Interesting to note he's at least a sucker for a man in a good black suit. 

If I read it right it is attributed to more likely have come from Churchill. I see why from an ad point of view Goebbels is preferred. Not sure Churchill was a propaganda master. He was a great leader, gave inspiring speeches and on the side victorious, but the fact that he was prone to dramatic speech means he could just have made that up on the fly because it sounds good.

this conversation is exposing some good obstacles when connecting the dots.

I am impressed. Clarity of thought even when people try to use an 'invisible thought fence' to give you a quick shock back into line by pushing certain buttons.

Most of that quote was just fabricated. The kernel of it, the 'big lie, tell it over and over' was Hitler criticizing Communist Jews (aka Jews). Goebbels used similar phrasing to criticize Churchill. But nowhere was it either of them proclaiming 'hey, we're a couple of liars, BIG lies here'. And no one should really need to be told that IMO. Seems kind of obvious, right? It's not simply an error in citation, or falling for a fabricated quote. It's an error in fundamental logic.

And for someone who doesn't care or doesn't find the topic interesting, there is no reason for it to matter. BUT if one (not you, Happy Now) is so inclined to go on a forum where good people have real fears and concerns about the state of the world, the future of their families ...to go there and make conclusive pronouncements about your 'indisputable research' ... how you're gonna clue them into who is running this Marxian-Marcuse-ian hellscape ... you're gonna tell them it's Nazis running it?!? ... and their most immediate contribution to the resistance is to hate the Police and Nuns?!? The man is a walking error. Anyone giving serious consideration to his posts is dumber for it.

Your funny line about how Goebbels (or others) visage can be used to bypass a filter (or raise one up) in the same manner as cleavage, was very insightful.

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IRB, you are a lump of shit!

How's that for the title of a post! 

IRB, I was tempted to let this all go so as not to disturb the peace, but you are a colossal douche bag. When I post, I am always polite. I don’t start trouble and I have impeccable manners. Now you, however, are a complete child. You post racist material, get called a racist, cry like a little girl, and then proceed to post a bunch of content that proves you are a racist. For fuck sake dude, grow a pair and act like a man. You are a hateful, sad, pathetic excuse for a man. This is my third post on this topic. You have posted countless. Just drop it. 

GL, sorry you got caught up in all the fray. I just logged in today and saw 250+ comments. Goodness, what a mess. I’m a pretty peaceful person, but I can’t let a psycho like him skate by. Only advice I can give is to not feed an idiot like IRB. His consciousness is low. He’ll never learn.

IRB, don’t fucking bother commenting on this. You want to be a man, drop in on me and Phx and I’ll set you quite straight. Guaranteed.

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I appreciate you looking at

I appreciate you looking at the Goebbels post with some degree of detail and looking to be a bit more robust and impeccable in looking at the importance of the error of misattribution. 

So in the spirit of completeness. Let me give some of your statements a stab with the same intention.

Well at least it is not an echo chamber.

ARe you certain about this postulate? You assert that there is absolute no group think present here? Really?

You assert what it is not. Sure, it's not alot of things. Not a death torture chamber, not an online rape fantasy share. Wheww... And millions more things. I'd be interested to hear from you what you think it has become and what the overriding theme is daily that we can't get past.

You can say with integrity and honesty that there exists no sign of a group dynamic whose agenda that has a personal agenda??It really is overt but like many things, for some reason the group mind has problems stating it. Which is in interesting point of how a group mind can work? Maybe? 

The Goebbels quote mistake is important because once his image is used it does matter who said it. And also who didn't. For a bunch of reasons.

Interesting that you fail to mention the reason in which the website stated why it was important that the misattribution be corrected. Do you recall the reason the author stated that it was important to make a correction> 

And you don't at all take exception to the actual content but how it is used in conjunction with Goebbels photo. Because the intention is what that website was bringing your intention to. Do you find that Fix presentation of the quote violated the stated intention?

My viewpoint. Not even close. If he had, I would have taken him to task. Although, I'm fond of Mr. Fix. He and I have never had any problem with calling each other out on content and having a debate on differences.

All your reasons are actually true statements in my opinion. But do you think that the actual statement, independent of who stated it, has any validity? 

You might have read a post I made in the last couple of months about false memories and how easy it is to implant. While it is important to note what gets past your filters and what doesn't (as in the issue of people being influenced to buy an electronic device because of cleavage), I think it is important for like minded people interested in the subject to be impeccable about what the game is with that picture.

So if the statement has some truth to it, it is not the actual statement that they are trying to get past your filters. Is it?

It's using a true statement to take another party to task by framing their point of view as a lie without ever dealing with the content. Or do you see something different.

Pointing out that the quote wasn't said by Goebbels is no big deal. But I find it interesting that nobody besides me and Fix thought it important to point out an overt misinterpration of a statement in one of the founding documents and use it to defend an abhorent, a very non-Christian point of view. Or a dozen other statements that get made that have no founding in truth.

So it makes one wonder if this is about Mr. Fix or the scholarly pursuit of truth and a real interest in understanding the dynamic of influencing the unconscious.

The group think here has many subtle components. Seems worthwhile for somebody to point out since we as a collective are fond of point out the collective mind in individuals who have not woken up to gold or the lies of the MSM. 

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KC wrote:How's that for the

KC wrote:

How's that for the title of a post! 

IRB, I was tempted to let this all go so as not to disturb the peace, but you are a colossal douche bag. When I post, I am always polite. I don’t start trouble and I have impeccable manners. Now you, however, are a complete child. You post racist material, get called a racist, cry like a little girl, and then proceed to post a bunch of content that proves you are a racist. For fuck sake dude, grow a pair and act like a man. You are a hateful, sad, pathetic excuse for a man. This is my third post on this topic. You have posted countless. Just drop it. 

GL, sorry you got caught up in all the fray. I just logged in today and saw 250+ comments. Goodness, what a mess. I’m a pretty peaceful person, but I can’t let a psycho like him skate by. Only advice I can give is to not feed an idiot like IRB. His consciousness is low. He’ll never learn.

IRB, don’t fucking bother commenting on this. You want to be a man, drop in on me and Phx and I’ll set you quite straight. Guaranteed.

No problems KC. You have no responsibility for getting me involved. A man calling himself a Christian, and preaching morality, who really has an issue with hatred. It's really a form of self loathing.

 He even hates people like you. And I assume you are white. Animals have a better judge of character than some of the people here.

Hatred comes in many forms. Let's forget the names, racisms, biasisms of all sorts. They can rationalize it all they want. They can pubicly stick out their chests and yell I own it. They can lie to themselves all they want, but there are consequences to even our thoughts. Not to mention the 100's of poisons being dumped into their bodies that are associated with those emotions. No skin off my back.

The peace was disturbed a long time ago so you posting your observation about Barter's utter lack of civility is refreshing. 

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It has come to my attention

It has come to my attention that Catholic Nuns have a long, dark history in the Catholic Church. And by the looks of it a recent history.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lecherous-nuns-and-priests-murder-plots-and-coverups-meet-the-mother-superior-of-catholic-scandals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/08/bad-nun-arrested-for-helping-priests-sexually-abuse-deaf-children-in-argentina/?utm_term=.98bbb8b4ad61

STand up and share your testimony if you were catholic and ever received any form of abuse, physical, mental, emotional from any member of the clergy. Or relatives or children.

Happy Now,

See how people twist stuff? You wouldn't call that evil??

Sierra Skier, 

You said it's the bickering that turns people off. Did you mean substative debate or individuals calling out others for overt lying and twisting of reality and that the responses to that sort of stuff is unnecessary? 

Apparantly, rape and sexual abuse is rampant in INdia by so called Swami's and God man. Recently a victim of sexual abuse by one of these God man cut off the Swami's penis. I think he died. I've seen video's of women taking justice in their own hands and beating the shit out of rapists in public. It's all there on youtube.

I personally do not endorse this sort of justice. But is anybody, for a single moment, not understand the rage and trauma that such abuse occurs and why women might go to that lenght to get justice?

Is anybody curious what Fix or any other former Catholics experienced in school that they might feel hostility toward these people and find aborrent that IRB takes a quote of context and uses it as footnote in his quote.

Because he is a hateful son of a bitch.

If you disagree, you tell me why all of you find that righteous and sit with your hands up your ass while that kind of stuff goes down but find enough energy to call out a misquote?

Something really fucking wrong here. Really fucking wrong.

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Worked on that for days, didn't ya?

Did it feel as good as you hoped it would?

" only advice I can give is to not feed an idiot like IRB "

Then why this? Or better yet, why the original speech policing? Everybody here had seen stack's days-old post before you felt the need to "call out" a stranger for having a different position than you. I know your type is solidly establishment and you're USED to "Shut it down. They're thinking bad things" working. And now it doesn't. And that must be frustrating. I can only imagine the kind of frustration the future holds for you. But I can't really say I have pity.

" You want to be a man, drop in on me and Phx "

Isn't that you in your pic? That threat is the most ADORABLE thing I've seen in a while.

Not everyone gets so offended on behalf of their wife's son that they'd offer to do something they clearly weren't made for. Bravo!

"Ain't No Rest for the Triggered" - Social Justice: The Musical

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" I just logged in today and saw 250+ comments. " Is a lie. I was checking your history ... anxiously awaiting your return. Making sure you were seeing all that you had inspired. Why is it important to you that GL thinks you 'stepped up" immediately upon seeing these?

PS: Hat tipped you for the effort. wink BUT next time I can only do that if you address the topics specifically. REFUTE these things .. PROVE ME WRONG. Everyone already knows that I'm "racist". Prove me WRONG. Defend egalitarianism.

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Libertarians

Lost in all this "quote-gate" is WHO made up the lie?

WHO is really willing to lie to you in order to get you to accept their ideology?

'John Galt' (on the picture with the made-up quote) sounds very Libertarian, doesn't it? And someone who wanted to convince you that "the State" is the evil, and the enemy ... might try to connect things they dislike with Nazis. Pulling your emotional strings rather than respecting your intellect. It's low-rent string pulling. And it's offensive. When I first looked into the quote, where I found it was in Libertarian circles...and this copy said 'John Galt' on it ... so draw your own conclusions.

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Religion is for controlling

Religion is for controlling those masses who don't respond to or who react and oppose to governments' techniques of control.

The govt system is left plus right, opposing in words but never undoing what the other did because they are branches of the same.

The bigger system is religion plus govt. It works the same, only bigger. Two broad sides who work as colleagues. It's funny, and a little depressing, how many people recognize the twin parties national system but fail to observe the similar but larger religio-govt international system.

Religion is a uniform we can either wear or take off. Those wearing the uniform frown and complain when we leave their tribe, and that's how it has always been. Sort of like wearing the uniform of the other sides' army. Not something that leads to a smooth and peaceful day.

So ... is taking the uniform off the aggressive act, or is putting it on the aggressive act?

It actually doesn't matter as long as people do what they do to perceived opposition. Projected ego outwards meets external projected ego of other, or non kowtowing resting ego. Projected ego is insecure. It needs followers, helpers, gang members, logistics, and slaves to serve, stuff to enrich and empower.

Does anybody in this talking shop even know what ego is? Where it is? What it does? WHEN ego acts aggressively?

You've got one, or it has got you. Whichever.

I see talk about souls, and eternity in DOTS, so ego should be no problem to DOTS.

But apparently, ego runs DOTS members rather than the other way round.

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During my 10 years as an

During my 10 years as an altar boy in the Russian Orthodox faith I do recall one of the other altar boys mentioning to keep an eye out for one of the deacons. 

To my recall nothing further ever came out of the mention, but none the less there must have been something that triggered the caution. I actually quite enjoyed the experience of serving in the altar, carrying the tapers, reading the Epistle, prepping the censor and preparing the bread and wine for communion. It beat the heck out of being just out with the congregation half day dreaming. As I got older I sang with the choir until my voice changed.

Green Lantern wrote:

It has come to my attention that Catholic Nuns have a long, dark history in the Catholic Church. And by the looks of it a recent history.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lecherous-nuns-and-priests-murder-plots-and-coverups-meet-the-mother-superior-of-catholic-scandals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/08/bad-nun-arrested-for-helping-priests-sexually-abuse-deaf-children-in-argentina/?utm_term=.98bbb8b4ad61

STand up and share your testimony if you were catholic and ever received any form of abuse, physical, mental, emotional from any member of the clergy. Or relatives or children.

Happy Now,

See how people twist stuff? You wouldn't call that evil??

Sierra Skier, 

You said it's the bickering that turns people off. Did you mean substative debate or individuals calling out others for overt lying and twisting of reality and that the responses to that sort of stuff is unnecessary? 

Apparantly, rape and sexual abuse is rampant in INdia by so called Swami's and God man. Recently a victim of sexual abuse by one of these God man cut off the Swami's penis. I think he died. I've seen video's of women taking justice in their own hands and beating the shit out of rapists in public. It's all there on youtube.

I personally do not endorse this sort of justice. But is anybody, for a single moment, not understand the rage and trauma that such abuse occurs and why women might go to that lenght to get justice?

Is anybody curious what Fix or any other former Catholics experienced in school that they might feel hostility toward these people and find aborrent that IRB takes a quote of context and uses it as footnote in his quote.

Because he is a hateful son of a bitch.

If you disagree, you tell me why all of you find that righteous and sit with your hands up your ass while that kind of stuff goes down but find enough energy to call out a misquote?

Something really fucking wrong here. Really fucking wrong.

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Lost your original post but I was just busting your chops is all. 

Lit sounds fabulous and very well though and and planned out. Unfortunately there were already our buildings here. I can't justify the expense of tearing down and rebuilding. Maybe it's better that way with the different projects I have going on. But for solely appearances it looks unappealing. 

Im glad it turned out so well for you!!! Now you can have fun and with ease!!!! 

Big congrats !!!! 

Not a worry Ruff. It is rather tight so I will have to move things around on occasion when I need to change out one or two implements. I wish I had a 75 x 100,,, 1/6th of an acre shop but the bag of money didn't go there and what we have is adequate. 

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Syria - US War Crimes

https://www.rt.com/news/397159-damascus-un-letters-coalition-pay/

"Syria wants the US and its allies to pay for the destruction of Syrian infrastructure and to bear legal responsibility for "illegitimately" bombing civilian targets, Damascus has told the UN, demanding that the American-led coalition strikes stop.

The Syrian "Government insists that these attacks must come to an end, and that the members of this illegitimate coalition must bear the political and legal responsibility for the destruction of infrastructure in the Syrian Arab Republic, including responsibility for compensation," ..

Stating that the ongoing US-led anti-terrorist airstrikes "continue to claim the lives of hundreds of innocent Syrian civilians," Damascus claimed that the bombings had led to a "near-total destruction" of homes and vital infrastructure, including the "utter destruction" of oil and gas facilities.

The attacks, along with US and EU-imposed economic restrictions on Syria "are impeding the maintenance of those economic facilities and jeopardizing the prospects for development and reconstruction" in the country, the letters, written last week, said.

To support their claims, Syria'correspondence referred to two recent cases where the coalition's jets destroyed oil and gas facilities. Damascus also said the May 27 bombardment of Hasu Albu Awf village in the Hasakah governorate, "completely" destroyed many homes and killed at least eight civilians, "most of them children."

On Friday, the US-led coalition announced the demolition of a number of oil and gas facilities in various parts of Syria which allegedly belonged to the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group.

Targeting the terrorists' illegal oil trade and jihadist infrastructure has been a cornerstone of both American and Russian strategies in Syria. But while Moscow coordinates its strikes with the Syrian government, the Washington-led operation has been harshly criticized for its indiscriminate bombing practices and doing so without communicating with Syrian

Damascus' letters to the UN once again underlined that the American air campaign is being conducted in violation of international law, as it lacks any form of consent or authorization from the Syrian government. "

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Oh, we'll pay for letting these warmongers in our country run things for so long. No that it will recompense the Syrian people at all, but a price will indeed be paid. A Golem Nation ... it's shameful.

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