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Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 5:24am (Reply to #13753)
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@ Ata I could possibly be called High maintenace

If I had anyone maintaining me ROFL

My youthful idealism died about 30 years ago. I am still an idealist tho. Does that count in ataland?

My SB is an amalgam of facing south looking at water from Wellington on a summer afternoon and feeling complete love for my country, as well as a clue.

The south facing water has a silvery sheen that I have not experienced anywhere ever. I could be under-travelled.

I feel sorry for people who have not ever appreciated an ocean. It heals hurts. It balms the soul.

The next best thing is a forest.

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 5:59am
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SilveryBlue

I would have guessed it was your hair color. laugh

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 6:41am (Reply to #13762)
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@AE

FYI I am not a blue rinse

Nice try

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 6:45am (Reply to #13762)
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AE you should visit.

I can guarantee a good experience.

You can experience the ocean, the forest and the mountains all in one small country. It's magic.

And we love having visitors.smiley

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 7:22am (Reply to #13758)
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Depends @reff

If you are coming in summer then YES hell yes. You need to wear sunscreen

If you have light skin you will need sunscreen all year round. Our skin cream is full of it. We are the owners of the biggest hole in the atmosphere ever.

Just sayin.

If you come now (winter)- not such a bitch but maybe a problem for you IF you are not acclimatized.

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 7:57am (Reply to #13762)
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AlienEyes wrote: I would have

AlienEyes wrote:

I would have guessed it was your hair color. laugh

This is what abject stupidity looks like. He's qualified to open DOTS for idiots. 

I vote for Euthanasia for stupid old man who don't serve the cause of liberty. 

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 8:37am
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Cancer--Hey GL

A few weeks ago(?) perhaps more, you shared that there was a close friend battling cancer. You had solicited the board about certain alternative options. I can't remember if it was on dots or alternative medicine.

Again, if I recall you were looking at mms (?) did you procure it and if so what were the results?

I hope your friend is doing well

Thanks

Silver66

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Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 12:06pm (Reply to #13767)
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Could have been me, but probably of the health forum not dots. My friend has stomach/oesophageal cancer. She was given 2 months to live last I don't remember when. Maybe last October? She has lasted longer that the docs gave her when first diagnosed. Chemo did its stuff on her & shrunk her tumours for a bit. Then they started to rot. Now they are growing again & the pain is out of control. She lives in fear of being a painkiller vegetable. She has just been given another 2 month marker.

I am only able to offer suggestions. Her family are taking care of her. Thankfully she is not alone. I would give whatever it takes to see her out of pain

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silver66 wrote: A few weeks

silver66 wrote:

A few weeks ago(?) perhaps more, you shared that there was a close friend battling cancer. You had solicited the board about certain alternative options. I can't remember if it was on dots or alternative medicine.

Again, if I recall you were looking at mms (?) did you procure it and if so what were the results?

I hope your friend is doing well

Thanks

Silver66

It was in the alternative board. I was telling people the dangers of biopsies and how the holistic doctor told us that it spread the cancer. There are many articles and studies available on the dangers of biopsies. and I was telling people about a remedy that NWview was also familiar with because they use ti at the Mexican cancer clinics called Blue Scorpion Venom. It's a homeopathic solution that we needed to sneak into the country although one clinic in Arizona prescribes it but won't sell it to non-patients. 

The doctor felt MMS was too strong for his weakened condition and didn't recommend it at the time. While I like Oxygen therapies, if you read the material by Gerson he talked about alot of patients dying detoxing too quickly. Early on many of his patients died because he'd waking them up in the middle of the night to give them enema's and stopped it and had better results. 

He's not the first doctor that has expressed concerns about the strenght of MMS. Robert Morse treats thousands of cancer patients and doesn't use it. Just botanicals/herbs and juicing or raw foods. I was into the oxygen therapies when the first book was published "Oxygen therapies" in 88 or 89 by the guy that runs Oxygen America. I am sold on it's benefits and have been but it doesn't come without precautions. And that's why I stopped posting on alternative medicine. Too many layman look at studies and never consider individual circumstances and the next thing you know somebody is doing something detrimental because of your advice. NOT GOOD!!!

MMS and oxygen therapies can blow you out. That's why the guy has 1/2 dozen protocols because it's either too much or too little. I used to take it when I got a cold or flu but too much and you have diahrea and can't leave the house. 

The mechanics of cancer are complex. And MMS is designed to detox the body. I'm all for it but if you have never detoxed, there is no way to anticipate how difficult it is. That's why you need support and your family who have never done it can't give you the support because once you are in pain, they don't understand that it is detox and that you have to suffer through it.

But detox is NOT the only strategy. There are remedies to battle the cancer through different mechanisms without a complete detox. Like cutting the nutrition off to the cells with shark cartlidge and different herbs to boost the different fighting capacity of the immune system.

I am not putting down MMS and there are alot of successful testimonies including on this forum. Better to take 10 grand and go to Mexico or find hyperbolic oxygen chamber in my opinion unless you know what you are doing. Different cancers, different complications.

So simple answer, we never used MMS but I would have if the doctor didn't.

Samething with colloidal silver or any natural remedy. Any antibiotic including natural ones like golden Seal and echinaca should be taken in the right circumstances for limited time. After 6 or 7 days, your body develops an immunity to it. Golden seal there is a specific cycle that it should be applied on and off.

Somebody here just told me a family member got an internal infection. They had been taking colloidal silver regularly, YET, they got an infection. Same as garlic, onions or foods that contain natural anti-infective action. If you eat them all the time, the body will no longer react in the same way.

NOne of the studies I've seen on colloidal silver discusses the impact on the immune system for people who take it regularly as a supplement and than get ill and try to use it to fight the infection.

My friend started too late after the cancer was too advanced. His spouse didn't understand what to do and that NO cooked food AT ALL. They didn't understand what a detox entailed. They were ill equipped to fight the battle. Unfortunately, he died three weeks ago. Whether or not he would have beat it if he was at a good holistic cancer clinic is debatable.

Plus, I'm certain that the origins of the cancer was emotional like I think it is in most cases. In his case, genetic disposition from his family.

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SilveryBlue wrote: Could have

SilveryBlue wrote:

Could have been me, but probably of the health forum not dots. My friend has stomach/oesophageal cancer. She was given 2 months to live last I don't remember when. Maybe last October? She has lasted longer that the docs gave her when first diagnosed. Chemo did its stuff on her & shrunk her tumours for a bit. Then they started to rot. Now they are growing again & the pain is out of control. She lives in fear of being a painkiller vegetable. She has just been given another 2 month marker.

I am only able to offer suggestions. Her family are taking care of her. Thankfully she is not alone. I would give whatever it takes to see her out of pain

High doses of curcumin works as good as morphine. Terry Naturally is an excellent brad.

Obviously late stages of cancer with extreme pain. Do whatever you can to take the person out of pain. 

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30 congressmen threatened.

30 congressmen threatened.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/30-gop-congressmen-attacked-threatened-since-may/

The FBI wrote off the baseball field guy as crazy. That's it!! Not even pre-meditated despite having maps and lists.

But becareful what conclusions you draw from this list. Evidence is circumstantial but with only two votes not voting for Russian sanctions it gives it more weight that the threats aren't random. But not conclusive.

I'm pretty sure somebody in DOTS, won't mention any names, posted about a historical precedent where a coup was staged. NOt against the president, but against the entire congressional body and it was from a competitor lineage of Priestcraft, not the ones presiding over the society at the time. They were all killed in cold blood, and a new government was installed.

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 7:39pm
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Look familiar.   The stories

Look familiar. The stories I've heard from former Wall Street guys is that in 1974 the CIA was split and they were trying to kill each other. 

  • In 1974, however, Richard Nixon was driven from office, just 19 months after taking the oath of office, choosing to resign rather than be impeached. There is still a lack of clarity in the public about the driving forces behind the Nixon ouster — the so-called Watergate Scandal, which became a national political crisis. The pending impeachment of Nixon was based on reports published in the Washington Post by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, but, as we learned four decades later, the source of the leaks that brought down Nixon was from the number-two official at the FBI. In other words, Watergate was a struggle within the capitalist state apparatus between the FBI and the White House, whereby FBI operatives utilized the mainstream media to carry out the destruction of Nixon.

    A deeper division within the ruling class over the development of the Vietnam war was taking place. The progressive movement struggled for years against the war, but it was when a sector of the ruling class began to see the danger of continued involvement in Vietnam, coupled with further exposure from figures like Daniel Ellsberg, that the major media began to expose the Pentagon’s lies and supposed U.S. success. It was that opposition from within and breaking through of the truth to the U.S. public that a much wider and mass public opposition was able to grow. The ruling class effort to get rid of Nixon shared nothing in common with the progressive anti-Nixon sentiment at the time. It was not motivated by opposition to the Vietnam War nor his genocidal bombing campaigns. It was an internecine fight between different cliques within the establishment

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Like I said, the references

Like I said, the references of Trump fighting a war against the DEEP STATE is bullshit.

If you are like me, YOU HATE UNSUBSTANTIATED Postulates. And therefore I've posted the postulates. 

You get to read the case the author makes yourself. But you might find that some of the arguments were made HERE before the election.

A factional war, OK. An outsider calling himself anti-establishment-ABSOLUTE, UNMITIGATED BULLSHIT.

Republican insider: Trump is creating Deep State 2.0, but it might crash the economy (EXCLUSIVE)

Former GOP staffer says American president is a ‘mutation’ of unaccountable oligarchy pulling the strings of Democrats and Republicans alike

Media outlets supportive of the Trump administration, like Breitbart News, have attempted to paint the new president as a man at war with the Deep State, bravely taking on the establishment with a view to slay the corrosive authority of ‘secret government’ represented by the existing national security apparatus.

In a previous piece, we saw that this narrative made little sense, given the very characters Trump has appointed to his new administration: more billionaires than any previous US government in history, former Goldman Sachs executives, unabashed Big Oil shills, and military-industrial-complex insiders who have proudly cut their teeth fighting US dirty wars in Latin America, the Middle East and North Africa.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/republican-insider-trump-is-crea...

How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State

A systemic crisis in the global Deep System has driven the violent radicalization of a Deep State faction

President Donald Trump is not fighting a war on the establishment: he’s fighting a war to protect the establishment from itself, and the rest of us.

The Trump regime is not operating outside the Deep State, but mobilizing elements within it to dominate and strengthen it for a new mission

The Trump regime is not acting to overturn the establishment, but to consolidate it against a perceived crisis of a wider transnational Deep System.

The Trump regime is not a conservative insurgency against the liberal establishment, but an act of ideologically constructing the current crisis as a conservative-liberal battleground, led by a particularly radicalized white nationalist faction of a global elite.

All this can only be understood when we look at the big picture.

That means the following: we must look a little more closely at the individuals inside Trump’s administration, the wider social and institutional networks they represent, and what emerges from their being interlocked in government; we must contextualize this against two factors, the escalation of global systemic crisis, and the Trump regime’s ideological framing(s) of that crisis (both for themselves, and for public consumption); we must connect this with the impact on the transnational Deep System, and how that links up with the US Deep State; and we must then explore what this all means in terms of the scope of actions likely to be deployed by the Trump regime to pursue its discernable goals.

Republican insider: Trump is creating Deep State 2.0, but it might crash the economy (EXCLUSIVE)

Former GOP staffer says American president is a ‘mutation’ of unaccountable oligarchy pulling the strings of Democrats and Republicans alike

Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - 7:59pm
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Like I said, the references

Like I said, the references of Trump fighting a war against the DEEP STATE is bullshit.

If you are like me, YOU HATE UNSUBSTANTIATED Postulates. And therefore I've posted the postulates. 

You get to read the case the author makes yourself. But you might find that some of the arguments were made HERE before the election.

A factional war, OK. An outsider calling himself anti-establishment-ABSOLUTE, UNMITIGATED BULLSHIT. Comments like HE might crash the economy and quite a few others, I don't support. But I'm not going to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Republican insider: Trump is creating Deep State 2.0, but it might crash the economy (EXCLUSIVE)

Former GOP staffer says American president is a ‘mutation’ of unaccountable oligarchy pulling the strings of Democrats and Republicans alike

Media outlets supportive of the Trump administration, like Breitbart News, have attempted to paint the new president as a man at war with the Deep State, bravely taking on the establishment with a view to slay the corrosive authority of ‘secret government’ represented by the existing national security apparatus.

In a previous piece, we saw that this narrative made little sense, given the very characters Trump has appointed to his new administration: more billionaires than any previous US government in history, former Goldman Sachs executives, unabashed Big Oil shills, and military-industrial-complex insiders who have proudly cut their teeth fighting US dirty wars in Latin America, the Middle East and North Africa.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/republican-insider-trump-is-creating-deep-state-2-0-but-it-might-crash-the-economy-exclusive-704522e6761a

How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State

A systemic crisis in the global Deep System has driven the violent radicalization of a Deep State faction

President Donald Trump is not fighting a war on the establishment: he’s fighting a war to protect the establishment from itself, and the rest of us.

The Trump regime is not operating outside the Deep State, but mobilizing elements within it to dominate and strengthen it for a new mission

The Trump regime is not acting to overturn the establishment, but to consolidate it against a perceived crisis of a wider transnational Deep System.

The Trump regime is not a conservative insurgency against the liberal establishment, but an act of ideologically constructing the current crisis as a conservative-liberal battleground, led by a particularly radicalized white nationalist faction of a global elite.

All this can only be understood when we look at the big picture.

That means the following: we must look a little more closely at the individuals inside Trump’s administration, the wider social and institutional networks they represent, and what emerges from their being interlocked in government; we must contextualize this against two factors, the escalation of global systemic crisis, and the Trump regime’s ideological framing(s) of that crisis (both for themselves, and for public consumption); we must connect this with the impact on the transnational Deep System, and how that links up with the US Deep State; and we must then explore what this all means in terms of the scope of actions likely to be deployed by the Trump regime to pursue its discernable goals.

Republican insider: Trump is creating Deep State 2.0, but it might crash the economy (EXCLUSIVE)

Former GOP staffer says American president is a ‘mutation’ of unaccountable oligarchy pulling the strings of Democrats and Republicans alike

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I'll Be There

Mark Will Present "Fake-Ass Christians" Presentation In Philadelphia On June 24, 2017

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Genuine Christianity is not what most people think it is.Human beings have been given a false form of Christianityto keep them spiritually asleep. In this paradigm-changing presentation, Mark Passio will point out the hallmark beliefsand behaviors of false "Christians" and define what it reallymeans to be an Authentic Christian.

The presentation will be finished by 9:00 pm. Everyone is welcome to stay and socialize with Mark and other attendees at Ruba afterwards.

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Ruffian wrote: I don't see

Ruffian wrote:

I don't see deep state being defined in there. 

You won't find one agreed upon defintion of it. That's the problem with politicians like Gringrinch throwing it around in such vague terms. 

These scandals happen again and again and involve warring federal agencies who are theoretically supposed to be protecting Americans. Instead, there is open warfare between the three different factions of the CIA and their enemies who are considered the “lesser agencies”: the NSA, FBI, Homeland Security, National Intelligence Agency,

This is clearly evidenced in the current internal conflicts of the 17 federal intelligence agencies that have arisen from the new Russian “Trump blackmail” scandal and the DNC hacking scandal that was an attempt to derail the presidential election. These scandals happen again and again and involve warring federal agencies who are theoretically supposed to be protecting Americans. Instead, there is open warfare between the three different factions of the CIA and their enemies who are considered the “lesser agencies”: the NSA, FBI, Homeland Security, National Intelligence Agency, and the other redundant twelve U.S. intelligence agencies. Even the mainstream media, with all of its state sponsored legal propaganda, admits that this conflict is going on.

Clapper has the following agencies under his controlCentral Intelligence AgencyNational Security AgencyDepartment of Homeland SecurityFederal Bureau of InvestigationDepartment of StateDepartment of the TreasuryDefense Intelligence AgencyAir Force IntelligenceArmy IntelligenceMarine Corps IntelligenceNavy IntelligenceCoast Guard IntelligenceDepartment of EnergyNational Reconnaissance OfficeDrug Enforcement Administration, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. He ordered the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to place all the collected intelligence from these 17 agencies under his control. And remember that the CIA has the all-powerful “international security” clearance which gives Clapper a higher security position that any of the other agencies listed or our elected officials.

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