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BRAVE POLICE SAVE TOWN FROM MAN SELLING VEGGIES

SOURCE: THE DAILY BELL

It is the simplest, most basic aspect of life: you need food, so you grow some vegetables. If you have extra you sell them on a street corner to your neighbors, and if you live in California you get arrested for it.

Licensing is when the government takes a right from you, and sells it back. This California man failed to purchase his rights back from the state.

But the poor police had pictures taken of them while arresting the man, and now they are hearing from the public about their unjust actions.

The Sheriff’s Department of Alameda County Florida responded on Facebook to the public outrage, including thousands of criticisms posted to their Facebook page.

Selling food on street corners violates county ordinances and public health codes. Persistent street vending harms local businesses, especially small, start-up food vendors…

There you have it, from the horse’s mouth in plain black and white: the point of licenses is protection. You pay to play, if you don’t pay off the city and county, they will send their hired thugs to rough you up and demand the protection money.

It harms local businesses: apparently it is the government’s job to make sure there is no competition for certain businesses. God forbid the consumer has a choice.

And why isn’t this guy’s produce selling operation considered a small, start-up street vendor?

Simple because he didn’t pay for his rights.

Yet the Ninth Amendment in the Bill of Rights says, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

And the 24th Amendment outlawed the poll tax, saying the right to vote had been abridged by charging citizens money in order to exercise that right.

Both of these amendments suggest that licensing–charging money for doing a normal activity, having to pay just to live your life–is one method of denying a person’s rights.

And two Supreme Court cases affirm this:

In Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943), the Supreme Court stated that a law requiring solicitors to purchase a license was an unconstitutional tax on the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ right to freely exercise their religion. The Court ruled that “The state cannot and does not have the power to license, nor tax, a Right guaranteed to the people,” and “No state shall convert a liberty into a license, and charge a fee therefore.”

In another case, the Court ruled similarly, that “If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” (Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262).

Earning money, engaging in basic trade, selling the excess of your labor all falls under the category of natural rights, the pursuit of happiness, liberty or whatever you want to call it. The government has no business arresting someone for selling vegetables.

So the county has their pieces of paper that say he cannot sell without a license, and he has different pieces of paper that say he can. No one bothers to think about what is right, especially the police “just doing their jobs.”

The police don’t make the rules, they just enforce them. So at what point will a law become too unjust to enforce? At what point does a cop quit his job, because he is the agent of injustice? That is such a stupid attempt to absolve oneself of responsibility.

A police officer is an individual who can choose to do evil or not. Doing injustice to fellow human beings for a salary doesn’t make it any better. Following the orders of politicians doesn’t make a cop’s actions peaceful. Throwing people in cages for selling vegetables is a terrible thing to do as one individual to another, and one should not hide behind a badge, uniform, department, or politician while being a bad person.

Let’s look at the rest of the excuse given by the Sheriff’s Department.

Selling food on street corners… poses certain health risks such as E. coli and other food borne illnesses.

Okay, getting a license doesn’t stop E. coli. There have been plenty of outbreaks in licensed food, as well as government-owned water supplies. This is simply a justification given for extortion. The government isn’t testing every veggie, and they aren’t watching every restaurant employee to make sure they wash their hands before returning to work–even if they make the restaurant hang the sign.

The Sheriff’s office continued:

In addition, illegal vending causes traffic safety issues and vendors are sometimes the target of street robberies.

Ah, there you go! The police arrested the man to help him and protect him. They defacto robbed him (the costs of going through the legal system, as well as lost veggies, and lost revenue) in order to protect him from being robbed.

And they will just throw in a “traffic safety issue” for good measure. That farmstand is much more distracting than blinding blue lights flashed all over the city whenever someone is going 5 mph over the speed limit.

(On a side note, have you ever thought about how much more dangerous it is to be parked on the side of a highway after being pulled over, versus going 80 or even 90 miles per hour with the traffic?)

The whole situation is just absurd. We don’t need police running around arresting vegetable vendors–we don’t even need them arresting drug dealers!

If the police would focus on solving the millions of rapes which they never investigate, or perhaps the 39% of murders that never get cleared, maybe their Facebook pages wouldn’t be bombarded by angry citizens as often.

The clear answer is to continue to resist and engage in your highly illegal selling of vegetables, and anything else, regardless of what the law says.Support the illegal farmstand on the roadside, and engage in gray and black markets with your community.

Support the illegal farmstand on the roadside, and engage in gray and black markets with your community.

In fact, a fun activity of resistance is to actively seek out opportunities to engage in unlicensed vending and trade. This strengthens the undocumented market.

The raw milk in my cereal was sold to me illegally, which makes it that much more delicious.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Sun, Jun 4, 2017 - 7:49pm
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Amen Fix

I didn't say amen in a religious way, Fix :). That was one great post. That's what we do out here and there is a lot of it going on. Local farmers markets on the weekends. Big ones, unregulated.

You decide what you want, negotiate a price with the seller and that's it. Cash exchanged for product end of story.

No police or political intervention. This is the way it has been forever out here in fly over country.

Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 3:03am
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farmers markets?

Now that is music to my ears.

Farmers markets are the future.

Corporations have morphed into parasites.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 3:35am
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Mr. Fix said

"Let’s look at the rest of the excuse given by the Sheriff’s Department".

'Selling food on street corners… poses certain health risks such as E. coli and other food borne illnesses'

Nice call Mr.Fix.

The risk of e-coli is present with all food.

The Sheriff's department forgot to mention that the established order will also poison you with round up, shaft you with tax and give you stale over processed crap that the average 'pig' would turn it's nose up at.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 4:34am
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the dots concept

is a winner.

The idea though that a particular bias should dominate is inherently flawed.

Dot's is what it is.

A congregation of living souls who seek perfection?

The people can join the dots but only the heart can see the picture.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 5:54am
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and Fix

You need to lighten up and roll with the punches.

You are not a devil worshiper in any bad kind of way.

Life is such a laugh.

I would trust you to baby sit my daughter way before a Christian.(or Muslim)

The problem with the world is that the it's all ass about face.

Donald is here to help sort it out.

The real devil worshipers are hiding in plain sight.

Religion in the age of reason is the worry.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 12:29pm
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never EVER forget who you are dealing with

"THEY" have been perfecting this since before you were born.........sigh

CIA Agents Caught Red Handed Trolling Alternative Media Sites

By the year 1953 Operation Mockingbird dictated information in over 25 newspapers and wire agencies.

The CIA have expanded their program that facilitates fake propaganda stories by using agents to troll internet forums, social media and alternative website in a huge attack on Alternative Media.

The expansion of Operation Mockingbird sees CIA agents use fake user accounts on various internet forums and social channels, arguing with real users in an attempt to subvert genuine communication.

Are you chatting with a CIA Agent on-line? It’s possible you may already have.

Abby Martin, from RT’s “Breaking the Set,” reported on an up to date Operation Mockingbird with the sole purpose of misleading the public on-line.

In the congressional hearing from 1976 (below) listen to how many agents are in the media to write false stories.

According to the Congress report published in 1976:

“The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda.

https://humansarefree.com/2017/06/cia-agents-caught-red-handed-trolling....

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It's not paranoia it's

It's not paranoia it's awareness! Thanks Abguy4!

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A few random observations

Since the last time I logged on, 118 comments ago, GL has managed to use "liar/s" or lying in almost every one of his comments, along with several unnecessary, and uncalled for, expletives.

****

He seems to believe I am here "lurking" on a daily basis, when, in fact, I have mostly lost interest in commenting here. When I do log in, it's to read everyone else's comments, on multiple forums.

This is one of his comments about me: (We ?) :

Weknow that you even do it without logging in so you go undetected.

I know this comment to be untrue, and the first thing that came to mind was the word "projection".

https://psychologydictionary.org/projection/

A psychoanalytical theory, projection is the process whereby one subject believes they see attributes (both good and bad) in another. The theory views this tendency as a defense mechanism whereby unenviable or unpleasant traits, impulses or ideas are attributed to another. In this way, the projector is able to avoid the unpleasantness in themselves. However, the theory goes on to explain that in severe cases of projection, the condition of projection may degenerate into paranoid delusions to the point that the projector believes others are responsible for the projector's problems and are secretly plotting against them. The projection basically allows a subject to ignore faults within themselves.

In a previous post he confessed to spending hours researching and composing his comments, and then deriding the hat tip system when he feels his comments are under-tipped, or an opposing opinion is over-tipped. Can anyone remember a single day when he WASN'T here? No vacations in the last 6 years? Ever wonder why that is? Patterns, patterns, patterns.

*************

He's created his own little fiction about what he thinks he knows about me and my husband. But I guess than can happen when one suffers from a lack of critical thinking:

Some people have lived in many more locales than the ones they've commented on in the past... like Memphis, or a beach-side city where people can watch the sun rise over the Atlantic, or set over the Pacific (other than Hawaii), with several more locations in between.

Some men suffer from post-retirement boredom, and decide it would be fun to do something entirely opposite of what they've done in the past...no suits and silk ties required.

Some people research and plan for years to escape the rat race, and choose to live in a place where the afternoon rush hour consists of the high school kids driving off campus, and where the city, county and state taxes and cost of living are a fraction of the place they last lived.

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There's no such thing as a dumb farmer. Dumb farmers are former farmers.

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To everyone here:

Keep posting your comments. Even when you're called a liar or a fuck or a dickhead, or told to "shut up".

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OK, GL, bring it on. I know you can't resist.

ancaro imparo.
Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 7:07pm
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Essential knowledge...

Knowing the tricks that are being played against us, is the first step in freeing ourselves.

This interview was excellent in describing all the ways you're being screwed, and how.

It also describes the knowledge required to live as a free human being.

It all starts with how you use your own mind.

The learning continues...

Magick,Theory & Practice, Franz Bardon, Hermetics, Alchemy, Occult, Mysticism

Published on Jun 5, 2017

Jenny Moonstone Available @
https://www.moonstonemusings.com

________________________________________________________________________

Check it out!

The whole book they are discussing is available in audiobook form:

Video unavailable

Published on Jan 11, 2017

A Course of Instruction of Magic Theory & Practice
by
Franz Bardon

​​​​​​​This should keep me busy for a while...

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Magpie wrote:Since the last

Magpie wrote:

Since the last time I logged on, 118 comments ago, GL has managed to use "liar/s" or lying in almost every one of his comments, along with several unnecessary, and uncalled for, expletives.

Very necessary.

Magpie wrote:

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Is it snowing where you are?

Magpie wrote:

He seems to believe I am here "lurking" on a daily basis,

You hallucinated that because I never said it. The tell tale sign is the word "seem" aka Gives the appearance. You wrongly deduced what I think because I never said it. Best to stay with what I said to make a strong arguement.

Magpie wrote:

I have mostly lost interest in commenting here. When I do log in, it's to read everyone else's comments, on multiple forums. It's in the record you know.

Turd must have different sites. You don't need to log in to view people's comments. Only to view or register a hat tip which is exactly what you said you did for Ruffian. You just contradicted a previous statement.

Magpie wrote:

https://psychologydictionary.org/projection/

A psychoanalytical theory, projection is the process whereby one subject believes they see attributes (both good and bad) in another. The theory views this tendency as a defense mechanism whereby unenviable or unpleasant traits, impulses or ideas are attributed to another. In this way, the projector is able to avoid the unpleasantness in themselves. However, the theory goes on to explain that in severe cases of projection, the condition of projection may degenerate into paranoid delusions to the point that the projector believes others are responsible for the projector's problems and are secretly plotting against them. The projection basically allows a subject to ignore faults within themselves.

Don't do that Mag. Real bad form quoting misinformation on mainstream psychology and think you have a handle on the concept. Did you post that for my clarification, yours or to help them?

First of all, projection isn't a theory. It's a real life phenomena that can be treated with any number of modalities mentioned here. So is counter projection. And everybody at some point experiences these phenomena. This phenomena was bolstered by Carl Jung in his work on the shadow.

2nd. It's when somebody creates a reality that doesn't exist but is superimposing past experiences on a current situation and that individual has distorted reality. For instance, a woman who might have been abused or suffered some kind of bias treatment, looks at the world and some behavior or feature triggers her memories and believes she is being treated in the same way, or in a misogynist manner. It was most used in therapy when the patient was projecting past experience onto the therapist. A therapist must treat the projectiion right away, and self treat for counter projection otherwise the therapy fails.

Magpie wrote:

In a previous post he confessed to spending hours researching and composing his comments, and then deriding the hat tip system when he feels his comments are under-tipped, or an opposing opinion is over-tipped.

This is why we can't have nice conversations That's not what I said, and that's probably why you didn't quote me because your revision would have more impact. Should I repost or you?

I"ve spent years studying stuff. I have said a million times in response to spelling monitors, I write stream of consciousness. It was AM that said he takes great pains to write a post and adjust it and fix it, to be met with often no reactions or somebody totally ignoring it and posting material contrary to what he just post it. And they don't know it.

I told Silver Blue that I don't take the time to fix grammar and spelling. It's in the record.

Magpie wrote:

Can anyone remember a single day when he WASN'T here? No vacations in the last 6 years? Ever wonder why that is? Patterns, patterns, patterns.

Hmmm. Your memory is very poor. But you're digging for a dig in absence of some good material.

It would better to take a dig with information that is correct. Somebody else would have to be here everyday and I doubt nobody except you is tracking attendance. But I do get the spirit of your dig. You're just trying to say I annoy you and it seems like I've been here everyday for 6 years and you want me to go away, or as AM said, shut up.

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Magpie wrote:

He's created his own little fiction about what he thinks he knows about me and my husband.

No, I repeated everything accurately unless you lied. That's why you didn't choose any comment I made and said it was wrong. Instead you made a vague remark that could be interpreted any way. You didn't say which fiction I created. And I didn't say I know everything about you. You made that part up.

Magpie wrote:

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Hell, it's really snowing out there in Nevada.

Magpie wrote:

But I guess than can happen when one suffers from a lack of critical thinking:

digging for content.

You're not good at this and I actually think you don't like to do it. It would have been much easier not to participate in ad hominem attacks. Lurking and coming in to use expletives. It would have been decent of you just to comment on what it was that upset you. Would you like to share now? and make it water under the bridge? You put yourself in this position. I don't say shit to people that behave nicely.

And if you read those 118 comments, I swear at least 3 or 4 people said I was genius, encyclopedic knowledge. The accusation is I am a dickhead. Not lack of critical thinking. That's how lies start and somebody just repeats it.

Magpie wrote:

Some people have lived in many more locales than the ones they've commented on in the past... like Memphis, or a beach-side city where people can watch the sun rise over the Atlantic, or set over the Pacific (other than Hawaii), with several more locations in between.

You just acknowledged that what I commented on the two locations was correct. I never assumed that I had a copy of your GPS.

Thanks for filling in the gaps. I'll add it to your file.

Magpie wrote:

Some men suffer from post-retirement boredom, and decide it would be fun to do something entirely opposite of what they've done in the past...no suits and silk ties required.

Some people research and plan for years to escape the rat race, and choose to live in a place where the afternoon rush hour consists of the high school kids driving off campus, and where the city, county and state taxes and cost of living are a fraction of the place they last lived.

Non-sequitor. Not sure why you added that it unless you were thinking I was making fun of the place you live.

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Magpie wrote:

There's no such thing as a dumb farmer. Dumb farmers are former farmers.

Yes, absolute statements are always correct. And my critical thinking has problems.

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Magpie wrote:

OK, GL, bring it on. I know you can't resist.

Usually when a post is good, I keep it short because I have nothing to add. But in this case....

I do like your lipstick color

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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 7:36pm
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I've been doing art therapy

I've been doing art therapy to calm my psychological issues.

My first painting. I call this. ... SEE SPOT RUN.

Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 7:52pm (Reply to #13389)
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Holy Crap abguy4

It looks like ol' IRB was hasty and owes an apology to one of our dear friends here at DOTS. I chalked up the notion that those efforts would reach a small forum as absurd, but when a farmer's market or a lemonade stand can't avoid scrutiny, I can't be sure that a small forum (specifically of people who don't like them or their system) somehow would.

I'd like to retract any suggestion I made that this was silly, or even unlikely. My apologies for dismissing the good people who've been earnestly sounding the warning call. Flyinkel, Cliff, if memory serves you both come to mind as people I should mention. Thanks for looking out for your peeps here at DOTS!

Magpie - "No vacations in the last 6 years?"

That IS weird.

Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 7:54pm
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Hat tip

Oh yeah. You know me. I am obsessive compulsive. Hate missing something.

I do not deride the hat tipping system. Only the people that use it.

I'm sure in 6 years, you recognize that I'm not the first person to mention that it doesn't serve it's intended purpose of recognizing well thought out, informative posts.

Just go to Main street. Turd spends hours putting up a post. 3 people hat tip him. And the first asshole comes along and posts meme gif, or says keep stacking, and they get 75 hat tips.

Or AM will write some brilliant post on the mechanisms of manipulation and volume and the next person to write that Jaime Dimon is an evil ass hole gets 100 hat tips.

It doesn't take a genius to see that the collective only wants to hear what it wants to hear, often be entertained, and posts that really do inform get overlooked.

It's just not me. Because if you go back to my days writing on mainstreet. I'd get 75 or 80 hat tips. But I had to dumb down to match the collective. I taught donald trump that trick.

Mag's post was a good one. It gave people who dislike me something to get behind. She aired her grievances although quite inaccurate. The inaccuracies don't matter. Only that it moved you emotionally. I deride human nature.

I deride the collective for constantly voting people that ruin our country.

And if Barter is correct, that this is a social endeavor. He basically admitted to everything I've been saying. To hell with truth!! Let's be friends.

I'm not offended by we don't like you GL. It phases me not. I don't need your validation to tell me that I've put out a good piece.

Mon, Jun 5, 2017 - 8:05pm (Reply to #13398)
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I Run Bartertown

I Run Bartertown wrote:

Magpie - "No vacations in the last 6 years?"

That IS weird.

I go cow tipping in the spring. And my wife and I go counting confederate flags in the fall.

With Mag's wad of cash of disposable income that prevents her from the dollar a day investment in the site that she profoundly bitched about when Turd changed the site over, something tells me that neither of you have soaked up the sun in the almafi coast.

Probably in your life?

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