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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 - 10:16am (Reply to #10417)
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MY regurgitation..............

If any of you know about this Gossamer web that took our away our superman power's than you can share that? I'd only be regurgitating what I read. Apparently, that was humanities fall from grace.

O my O my . Humanities “Fall From Grace”. I frkn luv that. Such a typical pschopathological meme. The psychopath always blames the victim. Eg. , on rape;’’ It was her fault, she asked for it”. Humanity didn’t do ANYTHING wrong, we were just seeking to ascend (gain knowledge) by “eating from the tree of knowledge”. That’s our purpose in existence. How exactly is that wrong?? Except to those who intend to keep us ignorant. So, to disguise what they did, they blamed it, (the Web), on us, and son-of-a-gun lookee here, how amazing, ALL the big religions are based on guilt. Whatta co-incidence , huh~!??? How much longer are the sheeple gonna buy-into that guilt trip, for what they never did in the first place???

Humanity did not fall from Grace. We were separated from wisdom/memory/knowledge/Grace/long lives, by the Annunaki. It’s in all the damn literatures. They did that to enslave us, to keep us bumping-up against the glass ceiling……forever. We are their food source. Our ignorance and miseries are their food source, or rather the energies we emit ( most most most especially the energies of the very young. Ooooooow how they luv those sweet tender young energies - like we like tender young cows~!!), when we are in misery or in love or in sex – in other words our highest emotions. OBTW, they really do not like us to be in a ‘spiritual’ state, such as prayer and meditation. That’s when we become ‘useless eaters’ to them, because in those states we are actually in control of our energies and emotions, and furthermore we start to see beyond the veil. Getting control of yur own energies is not beneficial to them. It cuts off their food/energy source. See?

I gotta meditate now, catch ya'll later.............................angel

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Abguy, I think you just want

Abguy, 

I think you just want to put me to work. I was busy with important things, counting the Christmas lights on the house across the street and calculating kilowatt usage. I have a bet with my brother if I can come within $5.00 of one one month of usage, he'll actually make me dinner instead of buying it. Ha ha. His speciality is panfried home fries with bacon. His second culinary ability is toast. Shhh, don't tell him he's getting a Breville Juicer.

My biggest obstacle is figuring are those 100-count string or 70 count string because the 100 count runs at 40 watts and the 70 count of 5mm Wide Angle LEDs is approximately 4.8 watts total.

Now when I said "Fall from Grace" I wasn't exactly being impeccable on what I meant. I didn't think anybody would read that close. So yeah, I wasn't speaking of one of the many origin stories that Joseph Campbell chronicled. This takes us back to the legendary continent of Atlantis. So is it possible I can say something that hasn't been said? The story of the Gossimer web goes like this: 

For some reason, we believe that these cultures were higher consciousness cultures where butterflies and angels danced in the street. Well like all civilizations, there is it's golden age, and then there is it's decline, the iron age within a greater age. 

The Aryian Hindu's head a bloody coup of the great elder leaders of Atlantis and this was pretty much the birth of the Priestcraft and control matrix. We are talking bloody. They went into the Senate and killed them all in cold blood. But thats another story. The Inca's knew about it because as you know Atlantis was an imperial nation by it's decline and had control of many world trading centers. So there you have the great Grid from Giza, to Machu Pichu to the America's. Yep, it wasn't the native american's that did all that copper mining and no matter how much the Smithsonian says it is so, don't believe a word. 

According to most lucid accounts by those who have those kind of abilities to be able to gaze into the past, Atlantean leaders weren't much better than ours. They routinely practiced euthanasia on the elderly who no longer could go out in the fields and work. This has some implications on people today in ways they don't realize. But than again, that's another story. Are we out of the box yet? 

Of course, you heard the stories about their usage of great crystals to do al sorts of cool things. Tsuami coming? They were able to create forcefields that protected their shorelines from it. Power grids, and all sorts of stuff that Tesla would be proud of.

But the new leadership, The Aryan Hindu's used a lot of dark magic and messed with the magnetic grids, poked holes in the atmosphere until it disstablized a pretty large planetary object. But again, that's another story. Just little pieces to get the story of the gossamer grid.

The other thing you'll find in your reading, by the Surgeon General or Attorney General about Atlantis is that it the majority of it's inhabitants had raise siddhis powers. Allow me to translate into English for those who might not know what a siddhis power is, it was there ability to see aura's and other strange powers that can only be discussed in the frinch section of this website..

This gossamer web is apparently the reason for our mass anemsia and the closing of our siddhis powers. Closing of our intuitive abilities and apparently over time a lot of esoteric wisdom was closed off. But this also took place after the priestcraft left Atlantis and set up shop in Babylon.

So when I said it represents fall from Grace, I was being a little metaphorical. The closing of our superman and superwoman powers is said to have to do with this web that cuts us off from ourselves. And if you have any of those superhuman powers, you're considered a strange breed among mammals.

As far as why he got our ass's kicked out of shangra-la, I'll go with your version but you're gonna have to explain to them what Adam's rib really meant.

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Abguy,ding ding ding...

I would give #10463 10 million hat tips if I could. yes

Thu, Dec 22, 2016 - 9:03pm (Reply to #10422)
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"Fall from Grace"

Now when I said "Fall from Grace" I wasn't exactly being impeccable on what I meant. I didn't think anybody would read that close.

Yah, I know. I just had a rant in me that hadda come out..................devil

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The Targeting of Conspiracy Research

The Targeting of Conspiracy Research - The David Icke Videocast

Published on Dec 23, 2016

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Fri, Dec 23, 2016 - 12:23pm
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Antarctica as seen from space

Conscious that this topic is one that this thread left days ago, I return to it with findings that I did not have at the time.

So among the challenges to mainstream and official wisdom, is that Antarctica is not what we are told that it is, and that it may house an open portal into the earth (among many other crazy allegations).

So, these should be easily disproven, right? Let's just look at some pics from space, of the earth and of Antarctica. So that’s what I did.

What I found, according to my own assessment, is a tsunami of supposed pics from space, of which so many seem to me to have been faked, that I cannot now safely assume that a single one of them is authentic. I’m not saying that none of them are authentic, but what I am saying, is that something which should be so straightforward and trustworthy, is so riven by fakery, that it is like opening Pandora’s box. And if true, why should there be so many fake photos about this? Who has dedicated so much effort into faking these?

The rest of this post, describes just some, not all, of my criteria. Bear in mind too, that Antarctic summer is when the sea ice is least, and winter is when it can extend quite far. We should factor in that Antarctica is a dynamic sight, and I do.

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1: Surface features.

Compare and contrast these two pics; each representative of two genres of Antarctica pics, one where it has a totally, totally smoothed over appearance, and another where it has features (and remember the scale, this baby is bigger than the USA, some smoothness is ok). So putting aside any seasonality effects, which is it? Is it totally smooth, or does it have features? Is there a logic I do not see, that could explain both variants, or is at least one of the genres, disproven by the other?

https://www.coolantarctica.com/gallery/scenic/Earth.jpg

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-13BcCbE9YKU/UsioLkyAjhI/AAAAAAAAQyk/UK29c7ed8-o/s1600/photo+of+antarctica+from+space.jpg

The other thing about smoothness; I have a friend whose dog is white with large black patches. One or the other colour is featureless in pictures; the eye can cope with contrast but the camera cannot. You can set it to cope with white, in which case black is featureless, or it can be set to black, in which case white is just even, featureless white. Be wary of photos where the camera has coped perfectly with both Antarctica and the surrounds, which is a celestial version of my friend's dog. The nasa picture above, is coping fine somehow with Antarctica's whiteness, and is telling us that it is featureless and smooth.

2: Clouds (a).

So, the ‘coolantarctica’ pic above... how come no clouds anywhere in the hemisphere? How come we can see the seabed topography in one pic by virtue of the sea colour, and not in the other? So, coolantarctica is not an authentic pic, else it has been doctored to the point of uselessness.And look at this next one; this is risible.

https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003800/a003854/Antarctic_comp.0500.jpg

OK, so those must be for educational purposes only;

Clouds (b).

This pic looks authentic right? The web address even suggests it is from NASA. Why then, do clouds disappear at night, on the left of the pic? We can see some clouds, over Australia. What happened to the rest? This does not make sense.

Also, are those city lights in Australia? we'll come back to that. Note too, the semblence of a skin of atmosphere around the earth; we'll come back to that too.

https://fettss.arc.nasa.gov/media/fettss/images/EarthGlobeSouthPole.tif.746x600_q85.jpg

3: Night & Day.

We can see pics of the earth totally bathed in sunlight, if the pic is taken with the sun behind the camera, so the sun is also lighting up everything that the camera sees. But we cannot have such a pic with Antarctica in the centre, and the world all in light. Antarctica receives the sun, but never faces the sun. To have Antarctica pictured in the centre of the globe, has to have part of the globe in its night phase. At least the NASA pic above, got that right. This singular criteria, demolishes the credibility of a huge tranche of supposed Antarctica pics, like this next one.

https://ferrebeekeeper.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/antarctica-composite.jpg

Yes, I saw the word composite; it is clearly another photoshop example.

The picture below fares better; let’s call it our case study, and look at some other points before coming back and demolishing it.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-13BcCbE9YKU/UsioLkyAjhI/AAAAAAAAQyk/UK29c7ed8-o/s1600/photo+of+antarctica+from+space.jpg

4: Borders/shape.

At least this pic gets the ‘night and day in one shot’ bit right. But the shoreline looks a bit precise! And again, no clouds. WTF, could it be more fake? Guys, if you are going to fake Antarctica pics, you have to cover ALL the giveaways.

https://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c1/c7/e0/c1c7e0546179fc98a9d6e2f930282ffa.jpg

We can nonetheless describe what was intended; with most of the sea ice gone, and most of the continent in light, this was presumably supposed to be a late summer pic, forged to spec.

4: City Lights.

Again, city lights are a clue. In this pic, we can see India lit up.

https://media3.popsugar-assets.com/files/2012/07/30/5/192/1922507/0fd704a9d6ac6647_7651359238_8bf31f10a0_o/i/Take-look-Sydney-Australia-its-side-Earth-looked.jpg

Back to our case study at the end of point three; we will assume like good sheep, that it is ok that Africa, in its night phase, is so light and visible. But where are the city lights? Where is J’burg?

So which is it? Do we see night-time city lights in these pics from space, or not? Is the night phase part of the earth, pretty much dark, or is it just a bit gloomier than the lit side of the earth according to camera exposure? Ok, there may be a moon factor, so lets go to that next.

5: Backlighting

In a dark room or gloomy room, put a table next to a wall, and a ball on the table. From the centre of the room, arrange a light to shine horizontally at the ball. The ball is lightest where the light hits it. But the darkest part of the ball, is not the back of the ball. The back of the ball, is ‘backlit’ by the light reflecting back off the wall. The darkest part of the ball, is likely its side. Artists and photographers know this. So in this, our earlier discredited ‘no clouds at night’ pic, what is backlighting Antarctica? If it is the moon, why is there no graded effect of moonlight on the ocean? The whole thing about light, and the way it should fall, is the giveaway in 99% of forged pics.

https://fettss.arc.nasa.gov/media/fettss/images/EarthGlobeSouthPole.tif.746x600_q85.jpg

6: Atmosphere: Some earth pics show an atmosphere halo; some don’t. Which is it?

The pic above of India at night, has no atmospheric halo. Watch out for that one, it’ll be one or the other. Why the contradiction?

7: Sea Ice presence, extent and compatibility to season, and colouration. C’mon, if you know what you are forging, you should get this right. Here is our case study again.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-13BcCbE9YKU/UsioLkyAjhI/AAAAAAAAQyk/UK29c7ed8-o/s1600/photo+of+antarctica+from+space.jpg

So, the whiteness of sea ice and the snow on it, and basically in the gloom of the night phase, is darker than land ice & snow? Really? I would need convincing of that.

Sorry for such a long post all; but this wasn’t an opinion piece, but objective research. I hope you found it interesting.

By my assessment, I have not found a space pic of Antarctica that I now trust, and there may be some where no defects can be found, but who knows if it is authentic or not.

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Now that is some mighty fine investigative journalism.

A couple of years ago, Silver 66 wanted me to look into the flat Earth theory, as a thought experiment.

No, I've concluded that there's no freaking way. But I did look at a lot of the evidence.

When it comes to pictures of Antarctica, this is how I was introduced to the idea that all the pictures are fake.

The same evidence that supports the Hollow Earth theory, regarding the suppression of photographic evidence, can also be used in the flat earth theory.

Now is far as I can tell, in flat Earth theory, pictures of the North Pole would be quite alright. But, apparently, they don't exist either. Why not?

So we are left with a situation where we have to extrapolate, connecting dots that simply don't exist.

Interesting, isn't it? wink

Last week, I listened to one of those interviews with Cliff High, where he used the flat Earth theory as an example of something that he did not agree with, but had great respect for the people who were at least asking questions, and looking at evidence.

For me personally, instead of confirming flat earth, the evidence seemed to support hollow earth. So, I took it upon myself to look deeply into the evidence supporting that. Quite frankly, I'm sold.

Official narratives are easy to debunk, but as a conspiracy theorist, the evidence has to be closely examined, corroborated, linked to both ancient history, mythology, the alternative form of physics we've been looking at, and then how it would apply to the official historical narrative, with these new possibilities. 

When you get into the secret space program, and extremely ancient technologies, and how knowledge could be handed down from an ancient society, to a current one, where they live becomes a relevant issue. 

This is why I concluded that you don't necessarily need all of these extraterrestrials, if "Intelligent life" is millions of years old, and certain segments of it have existed throughout all of that time span. They don't necessarily even all have to be "human".

In fact, it seems to make more sense considering the timescales, that some are not.

Sure, they are spacefaring, and apparently, through the secret space programs, so are we. There is plenty of evidence that Hitler obtained much of his Technology in Antarctica. There are plenty of books written with eyewitness accounts as to what is under it. Although not all of the stories are the same, I would expect that, since I don't think Antarctica is just one gateway to below, it is more likely honeycombed with subterranean tunnels, caverns and passages that have been used and occupied throughout the eons.

By the way, NASA literally means "Never A Straight Answer".

I think it all fits together rather nicely. smiley

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@ Mr Fix

Following on from your post, and essentially in agreement with you, I am reminded that there are at least two distinct steps towards taking the red pill, that ought not get entangled. 

Using 9/11 as an example, if I say to somebody, that the official 9/11 story is bunkum, I am usually immediately asked 'Well what did happen then?'

That's the distinction, and where so many get themselves into a mess. If they refute one version of something, they feel pressure to offer an alternative explanation. Why? How can I possibly know what happend on 9/11? What I do know, is that building 7 was not hit by a plane, and it fell at free fall speed. I don't know how that happened, but I know that the official reporting and investigation is a crock. I might have my own theories on what happened, but that is a totally separate step from disbeliveing the official version. To get others to open their minds, we must stop promoting alternative theories; let them just come to terms with step one.

So, pics of Antarctica from space, I have yet to see one that I can believe in, and if I see a credible one, well, maybe it is a credible fake. There are so many pics supposedly from space, that are nothing of the sort.

What does this mean? It means that anybody pointing to pics from space to debunk alternative Antarctica theories, are on thin ice (excuse the pun), and had best be aware that the evidence they assumed just had to be there, may be suspiciously absent.

Merry Christmas to all on the thread!

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Byz, I really don’t

Byz, 

I really don’t understand the point you are trying to make.

One of the pics you showed us comes from an art website…”www.ferrebeekeeper.files.wordpress.com Reflections Concerning Art, Nature, and the Affairs of Humankind (also some gardening anecdotes)” and some of those blog entries talks about manipulating colors in photo’s for purposes of artistic expression. It doesn’t even pretend to be a website about investigating alternative theories on reality. He might have them there but I didn’t go looking through all his content. Why would you be looking there for evidence or non-evidence about the alternative history of antartica? 

Cool Antartica is a clothing/footwear company with lots of information on vacationing in Antartica and a pretty decent photo collection for your enjoyment. And most of the pictures look like they were indeed manipulated for your enjoyment and it doesn’t purport to be anything else but a cool website to teach you all about Antarctica.

And as you say, many of the other pictures are composites, and say that on the websites with words like this is not a real picture. A picture like this could never be taken so we did a composite so you could see what it looks like.

I don’t think too many looking at this picture thinks it’s any more than some cool art trying to show something. 

But the 4.bp.blogspot.com won’t let me go to the blog so I can even see what the blog is about or why the person posted the picture? Art? Teach something about science? 

So I see a bunch of fake pictures, nobody claiming that they are real, none of them on the subject of what’s going on in Antarctica. You are submitting these into evidence as reasons we don't know what's going on in Antartica? 

So I’m not quite sure what this “objective” exercise was meant to proof? I assume you googled something that was meant to highlight your point? What did you enter into the google search field? 

Because if I wanted to prove that gold was going to go parabolic by years end, I would search gold parabolic, 2016 and list all the articles that make a case for gold going parabolic? But the search in itself would be biased. Kind of the case I made during the 2016 election when he had a flood of posts of how evil Hillary Clinton was and how much of a church boy Donald Trump was. If you’re looking for information to fit your believe….. by golly you’ll find it. And I'm sure that both sides got things wrong.

The case that something is going on in Antarctica might not be able to me made in pictures anymore than there is a an alien base in the Gobi desert.

Even federal and state laws mostly prohibit the use of digital photography as a form of evidence. Why would we use them? 

So not sure what this exercise was meant to illustrate. 

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@ Green lantern

I googled 'Antarctica from space' and similar variations. I cannot find any authentic ones.

The ones selected, though obviously fake to varying degrees, are useful to highlight clues and criteria to look for when we get a credible one.

If you can source a supposed authentic, revealing space pic of Antarctica, share it for consideration. I am truly interested to see the best of what is available to us.

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Byz, I'll assume you looked

Byz, 

I'll assume you looked and couldn't find any.

My 30 seconds of searching found this...(which was taken off) 

https://www.ipy.org/feature/item/1932-above-the-poles-view-of-the-polar-regions

Apparently, google earth says they do not have polar orbiting satellites only equatorial launched satellites.

And apparently, those who own the satellites have paying clients. You and I aren't one of them.

Oh yeah, I searched in Chinese too. Looks like Chinese peeps found all the same pictures you found and China doesn't have any polar pictures they are willing to share either.

So how are we to explain the total absence of evidence that nothing up there exists that is noteworthy? Or the absence of photographic evidence is proof of (fill in the blank as you see fit)

Is that your point? 

I do have a book somewhere on hidden cities (cloaked or not visible to the human eye because of a different frequency) as well as general locations of hidden temples of wisdom, and woo woo weird suggestions that there are orders of ancient people from different lineages responsible for the maintenance of earths affairs so we don't blow ourselves up to smithereens. I don't think that will constitute evidence for most people. But apparently, even if you did look, you wouldn't be allowed entrance without an invitation.

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So walked past Trump Tower

So walked past Trump Tower the other day and past one of Trumps hotels on the otherside of the park.

apparently, Joseph Farrell is correct. It looks like Trump has his own paramilitary and secret service is all up in arms about coordinating. You can look for the articles. 

Mayor of NYC is pissed off that we are going to spend something to the tune of a 1/2 million dollars a day in protecting Trump in NYC. Apparently, it's a law that local municipalities must protect the President. Force of law and all that stuff.

Obviously, there are heavily armed people outside Trump tower and security checkpoints. I don't walk through security checkpoints unless I have a reason and I have no reason to go to Trump Tower.

I am sure you are all wondering with all the security breaches that the Secret Service had with Obama, if Trump said, screw that and knows that things can happen from the inside. Especially if he is pissing off the CIA by not taking regular briefings, and giving his security to a private squad of former FBI and other law enforcement experts.

It would be more difficult to penetrate a private paramilitary than a government owned one.

It was also written in the local paper that the military planes flying over Manhattan are preparing evacuation routes incase of an attack. Obviously, they are going to pick him up in Central park in the softball fields.

I don't have any idea about Trump's private life before he ran for President other than, I ran into him walking through Trump tower with two guys flanking him. I thought at the time they were just business associates. And since I didn't say anything to him or behave in a threatening way, no reason , they would pay attention to me especially just using a public restroom.

My speculation: Trumps decision to live in New York City part time during his presidency might not be a lifestyle decision because surrounded by Secret service, a private paramilitary and NYC Police, it's kind of a big deal if you just want to go for a walk in the park to get ice cream on a nice summer's day. It might all depend on what he intends to do. 

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@ Green Lantern

yes, I jumped the gun. I set about showing how to appraise any supposed authentic pictures of the poles, but there are none available to us. I am surprised that neither NASA nor Russia ever released any, even if any pics were first doctored.

Your link doesn't work for me. But if the conclusion is that we plebs, do not have access to such images, well I did not know that till today, as i am sure that many others did not know.

I would have presumed that we would have been thrown a bone or two, but apparently not. I will stop short of saying that that in itself is suspicious, but it is not what I expected.

In the absence of pics from space for us to consider, then the Antarctica theories are not as readily disproven or even challlenged, as they might otherwise have been.

Yes, digital images cannot anyway comprise proof. But they can be circumstantial evidence, to support a witness testimony or an official line (eg of NASA), but it seems that the topic of Antarctica is ignored by the space agencies altogether.

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Byzantium wrote: But if the

Byzantium wrote:

But if the conclusion is that we plebs, do not have access to such images, well I did not know that till today, as i am sure that many others did not know.

I didn't know either. Never thought to look. But it looks like your experiment revealed something to most of us if not all of us. That seems like it was worth the journey. 

And according to some, none of us have even seen an honest map of the world. I'm sure these things could be calculated without the benefit of satellite pictures but I'm sure as hell not going to do the math.

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ag1969 wrote: The guy in

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The guy in the middle. Where have I seen that hair before?

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