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Fri, Dec 16, 2016 - 6:49pm
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Speaking of aliens, Obama

Speaking of aliens, Obama told the truth today...... He really did.

He said the hacking stopped after he spoke to Putin. That means there was no hacking of votes during the election. Ya can't overturn an election when you just acknowledged it stopped.

That's one honest guy for you. 

Fri, Dec 16, 2016 - 7:06pm
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Hi GL

When you really think about all of the information you have dumped on me over the years (and I mean that in a nice way),this is a really cool and interesting link:

https://playback.fm/birthday-song

Fri, Dec 16, 2016 - 7:16pm
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Full disclosure is the only moral choice.

We have been fed a steady diet of lies for many thousands of years, and ultimately, it's all to profit an incredibly small percentage of the human population. The ones who profit from the lies, constitute .001 % of humanity, at a cost to everyone else. Do the lies have any other purpose? Ultimately, no.

Using the rationalization "they can't handle the truth" is only spouted by those hi enough in earth's control structure to find it profitable if the truth is never revealed. In other words, it's quite right to question their true motives.

Even using the horror of 911 as an example of paralysis, who staged that event anyway? The same people wanting to keep secrets.

Do you really want to argue that humanity is better off with perpetual war and deep dark secrets providing perpetual ignorance and the emotional upheaval for the populous?

The only ones who would find the truth to be devastating, is those who profit from the lies. For example, all of the professional parasites who live comfortably off the labor of others.

If you didn't have a government stealing multiple trillions, a banking system stealing multiple trillions, a religious hierarchy defrauding us out of multiple trillions, Energy companies, drug companies, healthcare companies, "Educational" institutions that literally contribute nothing but services no longer needed, we would have an awful lot less to worry about, wouldn't we?

Don't you realize that nearly 100% of our problems are completely contrived by these entities so they can bilk you out of your savings?

Full disclosure would be gradual anyway, because first of all, no one who profits from the lie will ever disclose anything.

Most people wouldn't be able to comprehend, never mind believe the truth, even if it was offered on a silver platter.

That leaves only the very few who are actually interested in discovering the truth.

Disclosure is happening right here, right now.

In time, it will grow, as more and more people become aware of the fact that everything in the mainstream is a lie, and seek the truth about themselves, individually, and then eventually in groups.

I have sought the truth very much on my own, and now I find that I have at least a small group with whom I can discuss such things.

I expect that in time, not only this group, but those whom I discuss such things off-line with will continue to grow.

If you're expecting the president, or the pope to cancel their own authority, or expect disclosure to land on the front page of the New York Times, and these are the only sources you will ever find credible, you probably have no real need to know anyway.

Just like in times past,

a society can be composed of those who know, and those who still believe the lie. As long as the priestcraft can't organize another inquisition or crusade, those who know will continue to grow.

Of course, a few more mass sightings would be helpful, but, I suppose we will just have to work with what we've got.

We are at a time, where humanity either gets completely locked down, or eradicated, or the truth comes out.

It is now infinitely easier to kill 1 billion people, then it is to control them. It's prudent to prepare for their most obvious tactics.

In the meantime, life just goes on, and we continue to learn.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Fri, Dec 16, 2016 - 8:15pm
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@ Green Lantern

Well, in the spirit of advocacy, I salute you for erudite presentation of a particular view. It's a big topic, and one that needs thought, with all perspectives considered.

Not a cop out, but my online time has to end for a few days with this post.

I finish not with a killer point by any means, but with what I believe to your conclusion, but argued from different and less benevolent motivations. Does the motivation matter, if the conclusion is anyway the right one?

Maybe, maybe not, but remembering this is a metals website, 'knowledge will set you free' etc, I call to the witness stand a dubious / disinfo youtube channel called illuminati silver, and they posted this. 

Financial Armageddon – The Final Day

What they are doing, is scaremongering, describing a mad max world where society faces a total, and absolute implosion. The reason? Because people stopped believing in the dollar, and the world basically implodes.

The culprits? Us here on TFMR. The truth seekers. The sound money advocates. We cause the end of the world, and find ourselves inadvertently, in the role of the evil cabal.

Are we really doing wrong? Where does the 'we shouldn't be poking there' meme, end? Where is the boundary? By default, you may find yourself in some uncomfortable company, in calling for boundary setting. Maybe we on the 'red pill' side will also find ourselves in bad company, else inadvertently release horrors we never intended. Who knows.

I'm not forcing through any views here, just walking round the topic, and adding some more meat to it.

G'night all. ;-)

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Byz,  It's a deep post and

Byz, 

It's a deep post and alot to contemplate. I watched one minute of that video. There is an enslavement trick within the 1st minute. I highly recommend not following his exercise. For control of the imagination is the most insidious form of slavery and that is the issue we are really discussing.

No worries on ducking out. Alot of good information for anybody reading to contemplate. I basically take my cue from earlier periods of history where wise leaders were faced with the challenge of making changes in a way people could accept for the good of the whole. I'm not going to provide the analog because from our past discussions these periods in history still are highly contentious subjects.

Which brings me to Donald Trump because I think in someway it's relevant to this discussion. I've been posting alot of Adams and reading his articles very diligently as well as really studying all the research on cognitive sciences. My book pile is rising again.

Trump made a twitter the other day and it was the most powerful twitter from him that I've read. It tells the entire story of what we are dealing with.

    • Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  7 Feb 2013

      Negotiation is persuasion more than power. Be reasonable and flexible, and never let anyone know exactly where you’re coming from.

      57 replies748 retweets825 likes

      Now if you've been reading Adams, he hammers repeatedly, the same mantra's. FACTS DON'T MATTER, The Human mind didn't evolve to be rationale, and then he backs it up with one of many factoids about cognitive science or shows an example of how Trump did it.

He comes close to saying people are stupid. I think he uses those words in his book The Dilbert Principle. They aren't rationale and your entire life is spent trying to learn how to navigate with idiots.

Adams next proposition is that persuasion is necessary for the good of the republic. Said different, you can't handle the truth, and therefore, it is up to us who know better to lead the public to a better place. So I've spent alot of time contemplating some of his recent blog entries.

A man steps out on a ledge, ready to jump. Is it ethical to use cognitive science to prevent him from taking his life and maybe injuring others? I say yes. Perfectly fine. The assertion is that the country was headed down the wrong path. So he had to use congitive science to get people to vote for him and then back down to a more middle ground. He had to take down the left and the only way was by persuasion. Tweaking people, if you will.

So all the people who voted for him because of the great wall, or Muslim issues or any number of factors including anti-establishment, might be a little dissapointed. I even heard Doug Casey say that Trump's picks is ridiculous. We've had alot of articles since the election that say that everybody who voted for trump got shafted. Tricked.

Well, I'm looking at his picks for the cabinent, sure glad he didn't pick Giuliani, and they are all very establishment. But that's NOT The story Mr. Doug Casey. Not to my eye. Farrell is saying that Trump might have a paramilitary to protect him. And with military jets flying over Manhattan in clear view, he might be absolutely correct.

Trump said that there were 30 million illegal immigrants that voted (did i get that number right? ) Well, that's preposterous! I saw the numbers by immigration. He expotentially exaggerated UNLESS you know the art of priming. And he does. He went so high in a number that he totally by passed the conversation whether illegal immigrants voted or not and got people to discussing how many? WOW!! And I know priming works because I've done it in a much smaller way. It puts some of his base in cognitive dissonance and most of the left.

His cabinent are establishment people and some people who voted for him are embarrassed by it. But, he is not stupid. Because he said never disclose your plan. That's kind of, well exactly what I am saying with the ET realities. He knows people can't handle the truth. So on that, I'm with him. And alot of us are trying to catch up really quickly with the latest developments in cognitive science to be able to interpret what he is doing. And it looks like he has Zerohedge chasing it's own tail reading the last week of articles.

He has taken down the Atlantic. There is a call to fire the head of the CIA by a Long Island representative and put out by Adams. He said, I don't need daily briefings by CIA. See what he is doing? He made a full of Huffington Post with the penis, and two or other tabloids will be denied access. He toyed with the New York Times like a yo yo. So far as an advocate of natural law, he hasn't threatened to pass new libel laws. He never meant it. That was all persuasion. too. He is taking people out one by one using only skills. And the majority of people, the alternative press, and especially MSM, are getting it wrong.

He needs the establishment. Congress must agree to his cabinet picks. And my guess is that they'll do what he says even if they are some of the same old stuff. Rick Perry is now in charge of our nuclear arsenal and if you read the duties of the Department of Energy, you'll see the top man has to know nothing. It's it he deputy under Perry that has to know how the technical stuff. For all we know, he wipes out some of these cabinet positions. 

And did anybody see what he did to Twitter?

Trumps entire modus operandus is you can't handle the truth so I'll take it from here.

So the debate is mostly over the ethics of this manner because alot of Adam's followers belief facts matter. And they do. Because actions matter.

So everything Trump has done to date is pacing and leading, priming, re-framing and anchoring.

Is this a great awakening? Or is it just the best use of congitive tools you've ever seen? Maybe a little of both? Is there a price for telling white lies for the good of the nation? And only 1/2 dozen people that really understand it and can decipher?

Would it be more effective if he just told the truth and gave away everything?

So while Armstrong has been singing Trump's praises, he also hasn't eased off that things are gonna get bad. He hasn't yet connected the two because he discusses them separately.

I think the risk of his inauguration being called off is pretty much off the table. But I've heard for years that the people behind the NWO weren't going to get their way, but they weren't going to die off. When children do not get their way, they will make sure YOU don't get your way. So they'll be a war behind the scenes and some of it will leak out. But I don't think it will be over the electoral college but we'll know in two days.

I think unless people really start getting serious about this modality, none of the news outlets, alternative or MSM is going to be much help.

Fri, Dec 16, 2016 - 10:12pm
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My other example would be to

My other example would be to ask AM, how well he think he would have been received if he had done full disclosure on his forum from day one. Moved right into GV inflection points, string pullers, and then a year or two later, pictures of Van Gogh that depicted cosmic measures and esoteric subject matters, references to numerology, and even at some points I recall references to ancient calendars. All just to illustrate the price in gold. And that is what he shared publicly. My guess is most people hadn't even heard of Dewey or The Foundation of Cycles when he started. Overloading people with too much information, too fast might have not been a great idea. But building slowly seems to have worked.

I'm not saying that any of you are wrong. I'm just showing you how in certain situations you can easily overload people with information that you take for granted because you live it. Because I have the same problem in real life is assuming some basic knowledge in some area's and totally loosing people. That's the only reason I suggest going slowly. I think society will be better off for it. 

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ag1969 wrote: When you really

ag1969 wrote:

When you really think about all of the information you have dumped on me over the years (and I mean that in a nice way),this is a really cool and interesting link:

https://playback.fm/birthday-song

My birthday song.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood

Ok, I fibbed a little on my birthday. I was born much earlier : Wasn't sure if website was collecting my personal data but I looked up the #1 song for my day of birth. 

Sat, Dec 17, 2016 - 11:29am
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Disclosure is a top end problem.

Suddenly the Bugatti doesn't look so good when your boss has a space ship. As far as the rest of us, it's just another fuckin' day.

I did find this to be actionable information.

#keepstacking

Just lucky that way...
Sat, Dec 17, 2016 - 2:44pm
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I'm back ... sort of

I log on and see 77 (there's that number again ) new comments. I think it will be a while before I get through them all. Happy to see more posters as well.

Sat, Dec 17, 2016 - 2:51pm
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Half of People remember events that never happened

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161207101433.htm

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/half-of-people-remember-events-that-never-h...

By Shanika Gunaratna CBS News December 9, 2016, 5:38 PM

Study: Half of people "remember" events that never happened

Ever find yourself caught up in a vivid memory of an event that, you later realize with confusion, didn’t really happen the way you thought? According to new research by psychologists at the University of Warwick in the U.K., you are far from alone. 

The study demonstrated that about half of individuals will come to believe a fictional event occurred if they are told about that event and then repeatedly imagine it happening. 

More than 400 people participated in the study, led by professor Kimberley Wade.

The study experimented with implanting fake (but relatively harmless) memories, such as taking a childhood hot-air balloon ride, pulling a prank on a teacher, or causing trouble at a family wedding, into the minds of study participants. Researchers told them about the imaginary events as if they were real, and about 30 percent of participants appeared to “remember” it happening, even elaborating on how it occurred and describing details of what it was like. Another 23 percent showed signs of accepting the story to some degree, the researchers said.

Showing participants photos of the purported hot-air balloon ride actually diminished the chances that they would accept the account and develop false memory. The researchers theorize this could be because “such photos may serve to constrain imagination during efforts to recall the event, thus leading to lower memory formation.”

In order to fit the definition of a false memory, they looked for instances where participants went beyond the “facts” initially told to them. “As participants move from saying ‘I do not remember that’ to ‘Now I remember … ,’ they must report additional imagery or otherwise elaborate beyond the suggested material,” the authors wrote in the study, published in the journal Memory. “Thus, approximately one-third of participants showed evidence of a false memory, and more than half showed evidence of believing that the event occurred in the past.”

The study highlights the slippery nature of human memory, and is just the latest in a growing body of research looking into how memories form and how they can be manipulated.

“The finding that a large portion of people are prone to developing false beliefs is important. We know from other research that distorted beliefs can influence people’s behaviors, intentions and attitudes,” Wade said in a press statement. 

The results also raise questions about the integrity of processes that rely heavily on human memory, from courtroom testimony to therapy treatments. 

“It can be difficult to objectively determine when someone is recollecting the past, versus reporting other forms of knowledge or belief or describing mental representations that have originated in other sources of experience,” the authors conclude. “Even under highly controlled laboratory conditions, memory researchers struggle to define and observe memory. How, then, can we expect therapists, forensic investigators, medical personnel, human resource staff, or jurists to be any better at this task?”

© 2016 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRMCmonVjzscheeky

Published on Dec 16, 2016

Please open, and read the article posted on USA Today, and please watch the video that I posted last year, stating that Obama will never leave his base of power.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/po...

https://youtu.be/9ijBmHVV_R8

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Ruffian wrote: Oh he's

Ruffian wrote:

Oh he's leaving ..... Even if me and a few million have to drag him out. 

He's basically out. Trump has taken over. Obama is probably the greatest lame duck Presidental history. 

This is not salesmanship. This is not anytype of persuasion that most people know. What will be the long term effect on our country if he continues like this, I don't know. But this is a case, not that people can't handle truth, but they can't see it. Doesn't matter who you voted for.

He de-escalated a potentially nasty geopolitical situation. Remember the Hainan Island Spy incident? Well, Chinese already got what they needed and he knows that. Chinese win! So point in saber rattling and even if they hadn't agreed to return the drone, the financial loss is minimum. It's about saving face. Everybody saves face EXCEPT the military who is probably pissed and he done did it again, and pissed off 1/2 the country. I estimated there is risk in continuing doing that.

Follow Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏@realDonaldTrump

We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!

Fix: I think the Obama/electoral college is done. But there is obviously a power struggle and that will rear it's head as Trump continues to make changes.

I've been reading this blog since it's inception. I'm pretty sure in all the discussions about how we take back our country financially and geopolitically not one person said that it would be by superior knowledge of cognitive science. Everything he says hyperbole but that's purposeful. If you voted for him because of what he said, or you hated him for what he said. I think you missed the point. There is plenty of egg on alot of people's faces although the verdict out as to what he really wants to achieve. But there won't be many dull moments. 

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Clif High 98 minute interview

Clif High 98 minute interview I enjoyed. Now I'm optimistic.

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No Sun????

Cliff High states in the video that there is no sun really. When the astronauts go into space they can't see the sun.....Abguy.....what do you say?

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But then at the end Cliff

But then at the end Cliff talks about Solar flares......does this contradict the previous statement of no sun or no light in the interview?

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@Ruffian

Thanks so much for what you bring to these discussions; your perspective is refreshing, direct, and to the point and your combination of heartfelt compassion and necessary ruthlessness is something the world needs more of. 

The world you live and work in is so different to me I find myself rooting for you like I would the heroine in a good novel; love it, love you, and be blessed.

Learn to behave
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@ Nick Elway

Thanks for the link. I generally don't follow Cliff High, but this interview was good.

On a separate but related theme, I mentioned upthread, that if ancient cities in Antarctica did not exist, we would have to invent them. I am increasingly suspicious of the UFO / ET theme, and see it as being equally likely to be a distraction and / or deception event.

Distraction from mass scandal, and a collapse in confidence of the deep state, 'Oh look, aliens!'

Deception as in, 'oh look, humanity faces existential threat, lets band together' (cue council of humanity, joint military exercises, sharing technology in the spirit of the space station, one world government), and then global takeover by stealth.

How can we, insects scratching around in ignorance, be certain of anything?

As an aside, I googled 'pics of earth from space,' and looked at them. Some appear to be brilliant but overt fakes, but serve to remind just how good, fakes can be. So what is really certain?

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