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Great old memories Boswell.

Great old memories Boswell. Thanks for the links as I used to live near by the Rocketdyne facility in the valley and helped build the fire protection system at the testing facility in the mountains not far away when they were decommissioning  it in the late 60s, where they tested those engines. One of the engineers lived up the street and he make my first skate board with an old roller skate and 2x4s in about 5'7 or '58. It started out as a scooter and I modified it.

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I hope that you are right. 

I hope that you are right.  FOR ONCE, I would like to be proven right to my family that we are constantly lied to and victims of highly effective propaganda.  When I finally came out even questioning the official narrative of the moon landing, I was nearly disowned by my family.   They all pretty much think that I am a loon.  I have probably spent hundreds of hours studying this and I am certain that we have never landed on the moon.  Well... at least not the official Apollo version.  I do believe it quite possible that we have been there and maybe even to Mars, but this would be done outside of common knowledge worldwide.  Likely one of the secret agencies mentioned by that Goodie guy, I think.  And this would have and is being done with advanced technology not developed by us.

Now, I have been pretty much an isolated hermit and have to keep my mouth shut.  I mentioned to my mom just the other night on the phone about Sandy Hook being a hoax and false flag, just nearly had a heart attack... 

*IF* one day, all this stuff is proven to be complete BS and that I have been a fool, then I will likely need to be in a mental institution myself.  I mean, I have never been so certain for myself that so much of what we "know" is complete utter nonsense.  So if I am wrong, then I guess I am certifiably nuts!  lol

(sigh)

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Ufff

karma and halal are not related. They are in conflict . Sillwee 

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Satellite imaging

clearly shows a time when the earth was as pitted as the moon. Only the earth is alive and the Teutonic plates have crashed together and then tore apart so many times. That evidence is disappearing. It's nearly impossible to tell from earth cuz of the foliage. There is still an abundance of evidence remaining. Including rather recently in geo time i.e. crater in az. Central oz is a good example too. 

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Suggestions pl,

ok so I have to go to an auction later this week. I decided to watch a movie to discourage people from talking to me while I'm waiting for hip numbers to come up. 

So what do y'all suggest. I like horror and sci fi. I've seen alien. Tried to watch sunshine five times and can't get thru five minutes of it. I don't mind gore but slasher flicks are really boring. So ideas folks? 

Oh and I've seen the thing too. Everything else mostly old black and white horror stuff..... I'm drawing a blank on ones some of you mentioned in past that sounded interesting. Btw I loved alien. It's the only movie that actually scared me. Plz no sappy romance, or hidden lectures kinda stuff. 

Ideas plz? 

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lost an entire post to you - will redo later 

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Sorry, not a huge horror

Sorry, not a huge horror fan.  After seeing the SAW movie- I had had enough!  I am a sci-fi fan but frankly I rarely watch television or movies anymore.  In fact, I do not even have a television.  I have been without one for about 8 months now and I think that I am better for it.  Not sure whether I will ever go back... no microwave either.

If only I could get away from cell phones.  And if it were up to me, I would live in the boonies!  I'd probably starve out there... lol

-LW

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I'm sure this is too late

Well, with the time difference, I'm sure this is too late but;

Just bought and watched, "American Made." Had to watch twice to catch all the innuendos. Somewhat Hollywoodized, but the main story has been well preserved. Barry Seal, biggest drug/gun runner for the Mob, opps, I mean the CIA, in the '80's out of Mena AK.

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Ruff, let see how Lindsay

Ruff, let see how Lindsay does today. She has been standing up at the finish 0f each training run to disguise her true times. She and Mikaela both skied inside a right footer gate to straighten out the line to feel better speed on the bottom half. I have never seen these tactics in training runs before.

How about something from the old Edgar Allen Poe series. We used to watch them back in the '50s matinees. Or Men frm Mars or the Beast with 5 fingers.

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Star Trek.

It doesn't really matter which one, they are all good.

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a little history

Sorta feeling nostalgic this morning so I’ll add a little history to the discussion. Firstly though, it’s a bit saddening (again) to see all the mis-info that’s been bought into, both here and in general. ………………………………

So, one of the mis-info meme tactics that has found a home in the alternative/enlightened/truth-seeking community, is that: we had help in designing all the technologies that took us to the Moon, and that we could not have done it otherwise. Patently(~!) false, It’s been a HUGE revelation to me how many people believe that false meme. I had to study the issue hard and long to find where and how the notion became so acceptable ---- to those outside of technology that is. What I came to realize is that; IT seemed like magic to people outside the sciences. And that’s why people are so easily convinced that; 1)  we did not do it, or that; 2) we did it with ET technology, or hidden technologies. No, none of that is true. Tom Hanks portraying Cmdr James Lovell in Apollo 13 made a very revealing statement to his wife at the beginning of the film. “It’s not magic Marilyn, we just decided to go.” Now, there was magic of sorts involved and I’ve written about that here before. The magic was the extent of complete co-operation between all the parties involved. It’s still mind boogling to me. It was the most fantastic example in our life-times of what humankind are capable of. I submit once again that’s why the whole Moon effort is under this mis-info campaign attack. Certain agendas want to keep us divided and confused, and so those agendas destroy our greatest works of human endeavors. And the M-Fs just won’t quit.

Here’s an example of what it going around as a false meme (that we got all the technology from Ets). B.S. And that such things as fiber optics and very small electrical circuitry – chips - were given to us. Horse shit. Look, the trend – since the beginning of electronics – was to make them smaller and therefore more efficient. All the research centers were always working on that, see? The expertise required to make a “chip” is basically 1) photography, 2) chemistry, 3) optics. What company had the expertise in those two fields? Well, I hope you guessed Kodak. And its then no surprise that you will find that all the original patents for micro-circuits were from that company. I knew some of those guys. I can guarantee they did not communicate (knowingly) with ETs, although most of them were Space Cadets. I witnessed the Natural scientific progression in all  those fields. End of discussion.

Now, get back to your regularly scheduled brainwashing.

Have a nice day too.

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I also see the steady progression, maybe there were some hints along the way, and maybe some of that was passed down through the secret societies, but essentially, human beings are brilliant when left unfettered to imagine what is possible.

I really like that Tom Hanks quote, sometimes, it's just as simple as deciding to do something, even when at that moment, you have no clue as to how. You just tend to figure it out as you go.

I've got another deep physics proposal for you, in that one day, you told me that basically, the Hollow Earth theory would work with either traditional physics, or with the electric universe alternative.

I can't make it work with traditional physics, the central sun, as a big molten mass of radioactive goo just wrecks the whole thing.

If plasma physics are applied, with the corresponding magnetic fields, it all works perfectly.

Like Apollo, to satisfy myself, I do occasionally need to apply some alternative physics, which I am sure are well-known to the Nazis, and the Freemasons responsible for Apollo. 

If I can make it work, I am quite confident that they did.

I tend to agree that even the government would undermine the Apollo narrative, since it seems hellbent on limiting human perception of what is possible. Even if we've already done it, they can simply spread around a narrative that says we didn't.

I went a little bit off on a different "thought experiment" a few years back at the suggestion of silver 66, although, he wanted me to look at "flat Earth", which is complete bullshit. I've probably watched several dozen videos now pertaining to hollow earth, and here's one of the best that I found last night, it's basically an overview, of much of the work that I've already looked at independently.

Sometimes it's not any one key piece of evidence, but an overwhelming accumulation of circumstantial evidence that can push a case from implausible, to, "it just makes sense". Simple preponderance of the evidence.

How deep does the rabbit hole go?

All the way to the center of the earth. wink

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Try this:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/10-sci-fi-cult-classics-that-everyone-should-see.html

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Like I said, I have spent

Like I said, I have spent many hours reading and of course yes watching videos.  I recall one that presented an angle that I had not considered before which is space limitations of the capsule carrying all the equipment.  Keep in mind, most of the "smaller" electronics that you are referring to did not exist at all or were much much much larger than todays.  I believe that even the IBM "punch cards" were still in use in the 1950s and 1960s.  Given that I grew up on a Commodore 64, the disk drive alone was HUGE!  Anyway, I had seen a video that went through displaying each device that was supposedly aboard the Apollo lander module.  Needless to say, even 1/3 through the video I thought... no way!  There is simply no way all that stuff could be forced into that little hershy kiss of a module!  Also consider, the equipment shown were all rectangular in design as TODAYS are.  Ever see a round, elliptical, or triangular shaped hardware box?  I have not...  And how in the world fit a moon rover buggy?  And of course, the thing housed three crew?

And some reasoning just does not add up for me including this big one... given our current technology why oh why would NASA not show us a complete, beautiful, and unedited video of the earth, moon, and space today?  A full 360-pan around?  Or what about unedited High-definition stills even?  Raw, unedited, images.   As far as I can tell, it seems that all photos are composite/edited.  Given that NASA is a government agency and therefore taxpayer funded, then why would they not instead want to entice us to give them more money and support with astounding video and photos- non-edited? 

I grew up on Star Wars and Star Trek, etc... so it was a difficult pill for me to swallow myself yet here I am...

By the way, I am trying to find that video of the equipment and manifest, yet unsurprisingly it appears to be gone.

Regards,
LW

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consider purchasing

You might want to consider purchasing and familiarizing yourself with the LEM Flight manual by the people that built it.

Hint: A lot was carried on the outside, most especially the Lunar Rover. Also highly recommended - but only if you want the real engineering nitty-gritty, and not some shoot-from-the-hip BS from some asswipe that's never taken a course in science. Your call as always.

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You ask:

" Given that NASA is a government agency and therefore taxpayer funded, then why would they not instead want to entice us to give them more money and support with astounding video and photos- non-edited?"

In the areas I research,

NASA literally stands for "Never A Straight Answer".

NASA was established as a misinformation agency, to literally hide the truth, and obscure it from the public.

There is a public version of our space program, and a deeply top-secret version. NASA is there to take the focus off what they don't want you to see.

I think a lot of the things you are requesting, are intentionally held back to feed a conspiracy theorists confirmation biases.

Let's take Flat Earth for example, it's a CIA psy-op.

A lot of these things are planned out decades in advance, for example, it's entirely possible that the powers that be fully intended for us to doubt whether or not we ever went to the moon before it actually happened.

Some of the most effective psy-ops are planned decades, or even centuries or a millennia in advance. 

In a real twisted irony, you can't believe in flat earth, and a moon landing, they are mutually exclusive.

Look at the Bible thumpers, always wary for the "Great deception", completely unaware that is been ongoing for thousands of years now. The powers that be have been using it as their playbook all along,  but every time they pull off a new calamity, everyone calls it an "act of God".  Imaginary sky daddies make great scapegoats. It certainly deflects  attention off the real culprits.

Just for the fun of it, I was watching some flat Earth evidence, of a camera set up at the South Pole, and you could see the shadows going in a circular pattern around a pole, but the feed gets cut off for a few hours every day.

In flat Earth logic, that's when they "reset the sun". Can you imagine how many stupid things you have to believe to believe in flat Earth?

It seems to work well with the new agers, since they seem to have a habit of denying reality to begin with.

You know, that "it's all an illusion" crap. The fact of the matter is, mind over matter isn't an illusion, it's physics.

If you can be taught to believe that everything is just a fantasy, you can be taught to believe anything.

Getting these concepts takes some time. Last month, I used a video game analogy for how reality is constructed, and it got wildly misinterpreted as "our life is just a video game". It's not, and what happens here actually matters.

But reality is actually a construct, and a remarkably intelligent one at that. I just found a lot of working parallels in a particular article.

I do try to figure out how things work, and have studied an area physics that is deeply suppressed, Nicola Tesla is a good starting point, but you can actually learn more by studying extremely ancient texts. You can't find the technology that our government stole from Tesla, and used solely for new toys to kill people and breaks things, when the original intent was to free humanity.

But there's a surprising amount of ancient legends and myths that describe the same technology in fairly exquisite detail.

Physics is physics.

Once you've got the correct working model, all kinds of things that you would initially, because of what you've been taught, think is impossible. Once you've got a good grasp on a proper working model,

All kinds of things go from impossible, to very possible, and with an unlimited budget, you can safely assume it's already been done.

But back to your original question,

The powers that be lose a lot of their weapons against humanity, if we figure out the "trick".

I find it very plausible that a lot of missing "telemetry" might expose a few tricks.

It's hard to look at current events these days, it's just a humongous pile of bullshit now.

You can actually learn more about current events by looking at ancient history.

Everything is cyclical, and what we are witnessing is a cycle that has played out countless times before.

Thanks for participating,

One nut to another, don't take what other people think of you too seriously. It only gets worse from here. wink

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Yesterday I was blabbing with

Yesterday I was blabbing with an old gf. She lives in reading England. Not too far from London. She was telling me hiw spot on I was all those years ago about multiculturalism. Cuz now even reading is unsafe. She had quit trips into London several years ago. She said get on and say it meaning I told yo so. I said nope that's useless. It was never about me being right. It's about what are you going to do about it?  

Then later this : https://vladtepesblog.com/2018/02/07/those-people-who-ate-with-me-drank-danced-laughed-they-talk-about-me-as-stupid-german-whore/

showed up in my mail. It is a very long read and worth every word. You should at least scan it. Cuz I'm my mind we are 5 years away from it. 

Never confuse dumb with a fool.  Dumb I'm guilty - fool never. I got visciously attacked for picking on those poor survivor kids on THE HILL. I'm like you dumb asses your buying a pig in a poke. It's easy to stand your ground when you know your right. So today it comes out the little cretins are not students there  at all. They just travel from tragedy to tragedy giving their anti gun act. I was the evil one for being cruel attacking a survivor. Of course the hill and the hoarde doesn't want to talk to me now hehehe. Too funny cuz the little cucked kid had his own YouTube channel but I knew that. They did not. 

Lesson: never back down when you are right. 

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ill see if u can find a copy thx.,, 

also long forgotten but NCR was way ahead of everyone back then .. IBM couldn't hold a candle to them. 

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to the rescue again thx! 

Only thing is there very low ranking of THE THING. I thought it was great. 

Made me laugh when I opened it cuz my fav actors name was on the marquee. Bela Lugosi! Hehe 

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its cool cuz I don't watch either. 

I do live in the boonies hehe, 

you would be fine here 

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