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You're never going to get a job with the China Tourism Bureau, that's for sure. laugh

I always thought a lot of that 'dragged away and shot' stuff was blown out of proportion, sounds like your wife knows there's truth to it, huh? I know a young lady that just got back from living there for a year in the city where they do the ice castles, but I haven't even seen her yet since she got back. She never mentioned feeling worried about the government (or anything, really, ultra-safe), but she did say it seemed a rather serious place.

Red Cliff looks great, I'll have to check it out. Looks very action-heavy, might be able to get the gist without knowing the language.

Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:01pm
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Golden Jackass: Better than most .

Elites In Fear Of White Dragon Society & Gold Standard, Jim Willie
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Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:16pm (Reply to #7678)
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Just recording an update for my youtube channel. Probably wont do another one for a while, unless things get hairy. Clif High says silver is going to double this month, so that could get exciting. He says monday will be ok but tuesday will be ballistic. We might have our very first CRIMEX limit up. We Chrinese rerry crever.

Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:23pm
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Must Listen: It's Over: Bill Holter

Bill Holter says 50% chance on no election.

I say 0%. devil

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Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:38pm
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Bedtime Story... Plato Mastrepiece

The Republic by Plato (Audiobook)
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Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:43pm
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China

A land of inconsistency. They have the veneer of western adaption, but seem to be implementing more and more restrictions on freedoms, especially free speech. They have developed (copied) their own social media platform to enforce a very rigid control over the masses. The new system of social incentive, that measures citizens on a faithfulness measure that is public for all to see is one of the most obscene things i have ever seen. China is slipping back in to the dark ages in this regard. Road rules are not enforced, and the result is at times chaos. The culture is very self serving and has very low levels of cooperation, more apparent in the cities. I had very high hopes for China up to a year or so ago but now i am concerned for China, and i can not quite put my finger on what is going to happen. Maybe i am just too western.

Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 10:45pm
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Slick Willy met with leader of group tied to Dallas masacre

https://theothermccain.com/2016/07/09/bill-clinton-met-with-anti-police-...

During a campaign visit to Kentucky this year former President Bill Clinton met with the leader of a racial hate group that has been implicated in Thursday’s attack that killed five Dallas police officers.

Mauricelm-Lei Millere is leader of the African American Defense League (AADL), which has repeatedly advocated violence against police. Dallas gunman Micah Xavier Johnson supported the AADL on Facebook, where Millere’s group posted messages that declared “ATTACK EVERYTHING IN BLUE EXCEPT THE MAIL MAN” and “sprinkle Pigs Blood” prior to Thursday’s attack. On his Instagram page, Millere wrote: “We have no alternative! We must kill white police officers across the country!”

ancaro imparo.
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I would have to agree with you except for one thing. He would step down if he could step up. That is why he pushes the new world order so hard, he has his eyes on being world dick tator not just USA. He would not be trying so hard to destroy America if he wanted the supreme leader position. I feel he has been steering towards more of a military control. Because his new world order and one world government (with him at the helm), is delayed, if not weakened, he may well settle for another "term" in office.

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Greatest Presidential acheivments

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In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 11:32pm
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Barry applies for new job

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In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sat, Jul 9, 2016 - 11:33pm (Reply to #7652)
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a government employee is a bad person

If you're a government employee, you are a bad person. It is only a matter of what degree that is in question.

I am a government employee. I work hard to see that the people who deserve a break get a break. I work hard to see that the people who do wrong are treated appropriately. But you see me as evil. How nice for you.

I know local law enforcement. There are some with whom I would trust my family in their care. Some I would not. YMMV.

Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 12:13am
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the blame game

 Someone said in a recent post (I think it was argentus maximus) that the collective entity was where evil resides, not so much the leaders, police, governments etc..

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Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 2:23am (Reply to #7683)
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Quick Wy So Trading Update

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REALIST NEWS - Black Lives Matter Wanting To Cause Martial Law So Obama Can Remain in office?

Obomo going nowhere

Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 6:54am
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pull yourself together Wy So

Black lives don't matter any more than white lives.

Obomo aint going nohwere? Hao yu learn to spell?

G.L. can teach you hao not to loose your skills.

Mr.Fix say Wy So silly boy?

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I saw a post on Main St

I saw a post on Main St yesterday about Stanley Kubrick, and his daughter recently debunking the conspiracy theory that Kubrick produced a fictionalized moon landing movie. This post is not about that thesis.

Stanley Kubrick was not your average movie producer. Think about Dr Strangelove which came out at a time when nuclear weapons were being regarded as possibly a good thing, and a solution to a problem, by the military industrial complex, and the public being indoctrinated in that vein.

This brought to my mind a amazing review of Kubrick's movie, "2001 : A Space Odyssey" by Jay Weidner.

Those of you who are interested in following this good and bad streak inside people and teasing out wrong turns taken by humanity, and the notion of raising mass human consciousness might enjoy this quite densely packed review of the alchemical messages contained within" 2001".

I expect DOTS members won't be able to read this in a skimming kind of a way. When I came upon it I had to pause a few times to recreate the film in my mind and consider the message, before continuing to read Weidner's review.

https://www.alchemylab.com/alchemical_kubrick.htm

And after reading this particular review, I expect Kubrick's greatest movie may be due for another somewhat more informed viewing.

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Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 10:05am (Reply to #7691)
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A reply to Deacon Benjamin...

Deacon Benjamin,

Just the man I've been looking for. I say that, because that particular line, in that particular post was bait to see if I could still find someone on this thread who thought that government employees could also be good people.

All government employees have been taught that they are public servants, and doing good for the public.

What I'd like, is for you to be more specific on how exactly you are benefiting the public.

I know that our local police have been trained to believe that they are saving lives when they go on a ticket writing blitz, and when they can line up a 100 people to pay their fines, somehow, the public benefits. I call it an extortion racket.

In investigating the one cop that ran me off the road, just to write me some tickets, I found that he had actually performed two arrests in the past year.

In one instance,

He was called to a neighbors home for a domestic dispute, a couple that were in their late 60s, were having an argument.

He arrested and jailed the husband, because the wife said he had shoved her. Upon his appearance in criminal court, he was given a fine of $1000,

He had to borrow the money to pay the fine, as he did not have $1000. Apparently, he had been arguing with his wife who had already spent all his money.

Would you like to tell me how that particular fine helped anyone? As far as I'm concerned, he was robbed twice.

In another arrest, he caught a man who wasn't wearing his seatbelt, and upon further investigation, found marijuana in his car.

That man is facing 25 years in jail for transporting a plant. It kind of makes you wonder what his wife and children are supposed to do without him for the next 25 years.

I can't think of a situation where the government becomes involved, that doesn't make any situation worse. Their primary source of income seems to be imposing fines upon people who aren't hurting anyone, and they don't seem particularly interested in compensating anyone for the great harm they do to society.

The fact that their entire organization is financed through theft in the first place, is rarely or ever acknowledged.

I don't support black lives matter, I think they all matter. But giving a bunch of indoctrinated psychopaths guns and badges to enforce the dictates of their corporate masters does not bode well for a civil society. In my town, virtually all crimes against humanity are perpetrated by government employees. And yes, they stick together, and they cover each others backs. They make it perfectly clear that it's their club, and if you're not in it, they can do whatever they damn well please with you.

After reviewing Plato's Republic, I do think I have found a basic flaw in Plato's philosophy. I noticed the same thing with Lao Tzu, creator of the Tao Te Ching. They both assume that governments are necessary, which I believe it is a false assumption, and much of their philosophy is focused on how to make governments work better. Plato for example, who thought that democracy was a great idea, noticed a flaw, whereby stupid people were electing stupid politicians. He wanted to require a degree in philosophy before people would be permitted to vote. Since Lao Tzu only dealt with dictators, who has seized the control over people through force, he was trying to teach them how to rule without violence.

It took Aristotle to seriously question the legitimacy of men ruling over other men. He may have been the first to notice that power tends to corrupt.

Deacon Benjamin, do you ever give serious thought as to where your paycheck comes from? Do you think that people volunteer a portion of their hard earned money to support your cause? Or is it actually stolen from them under threat of violence, imprisonment, or death.

Have you considered that when you go forth and "see that people who do wrong are treated appropriately", do you stop and ask yourself if these people who have allegedly done wrong have ever harmed anyone? Or, are you just enforcing codes and statutes.

What is the procedure when your coworkers do wrong, or is that not possible under your definition of wrong?

And what about those within your organization who have let their power go to their heads? Is there any mechanism to root out the bad apples? In actuality, do such things ever even happen?

In most governmental organizations, the power hungry take care of their friends, and make sure that those who don't want to play the game don't last long.

If you are really interested in helping other people, why do you need a government job to do that? Couldn't the duties that you perform be done privately? Would that not make your operation instantly more efficient? 

What do you consider "appropriate treatment" for people who do wrong? Is it appropriate to steal their money, for "the common good”?

Please be specific, because generalizations sound good, until the specifics of “appropriate treatment" of “wrongdoers" can be looked at.

This thread does tend to challenge deeply held beliefs, and government supporting platitudes such as "appropriate treatment for those who do wrong" won't hold up with considerably more scrutiny.

The fact is,"appropriate treatment" always benefits the government.

In my opinion, this is inappropriate.

Tell me why I'm wrong.

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Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 10:40am
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Mr. Fix, those who pay and those who receive!

24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

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The kings children are exempt and do the receiving and the rest just pay.

NW VIEW >>>1 Cor. 1:18
Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 12:49pm
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Good morning Jim,

You're catching on! yes

What Happens After Cops Start Getting Shot?

We are now in the fourth stage of the cycle of insurgency. The fifth stage is open insurrection.

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Sun, Jul 10, 2016 - 1:47pm (Reply to #7697)
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Let me start by saying that I have had two government jobs, and in both, I would celebrate if the agency was closed tomorrow, notwithstanding the impact on me financially. But it does exist, and someone will exercise the authority that I exercise, so I try to make the system less abusive.

I can't think of a situation where the government becomes involved, that doesn't make any situation worse. Many times I explain to people that, having allowed the government to get involved in their private affairs, they now have lost the ability to control those affairs.

The fact that their entire organization is financed through theft in the first place, is rarely or ever acknowledged. As stated above, I would celebrate if the agency was closed tomorrow.

Deacon Benjamin, do you ever give serious thought as to where your paycheck comes from? Yes. Do you think that people volunteer a portion of their hard earned money to support your cause? Or is it actually stolen from them under threat of violence, imprisonment, or death. I believe both happen. There are people who are happy to pay taxes for the services they receive. 

do you stop and ask yourself if these people who have allegedly done wrong have ever harmed anyone? Yes. 

What is the procedure when your coworkers do wrong. I do what is in my power to make it right. Often I succeed, but some times I cannot.

And what about those within your organization who have let their power go to their heads? Is there any mechanism to root out the bad apples? In actuality, do such things ever even happen? Actually, yes. But that could change when the people currently in authority are replaced over time. Additionally, the people I have seen with such tendencies also appear to have a limited ability to deal with the frustrations and idiocy of how bureaucracies work on the inside. A "my way or the highway" world view tends not to succeed very long.

In most governmental organizations, the power hungry take care of their friends, and make sure that those who don't want to play the game don't last long. Strangely enough, the power hungry do not seem to be attracted to my agency.

If you are really interested in helping other people, why do you need a government job to do that? Truth be told, I took the job to better provide for my family, not to help people. While I'm in the job, I will pursue equity to the best of my ability and authority.

What do you consider "appropriate treatment" for people who do wrong? Fortunately for me, I am not the judge. I present the facts to him, and he decides. But, I do make a point of telling both sides of the issue to the judge, not just the facts in support of my case. 

Hmm, my answer just posted itself before I was finished. 

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