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I forgot to ask if why so low every came out of the bush? 

Also forgot to reply on jacinda. I don't think she's ready to take on trump. I haven't got a feeling for her. Actually I do but not  with regards to her tenure for nz. 

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Wealth report

The first magic millions sale in OZ concluded with a unbelievable 86% increase over last year. Mediums, medians were up in all category's, except for buybacks. The highest in 10 years. The really deep pockets weren't in attendance - remarkable. 

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Isn't that great they reported all the bonuses these large caps are paying without a single mention of the layoffs by them. 

Also it's fair to question the timing on the release of information from the Las Vegas slaughter. 

Then there is that dossier. If it's even amounts to half of what they are suggesting. That's gonna be a huge amount of leverage. 

Also noted dems are using the term dreamers and not daca. That's a 3 million person difference. 

But the really big news is Putin goes shirtless again!!! 

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argentus maximus wrote: He

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He talked to the male skillset inside the female person about how valuable male style skills can be. To disagree what would she have had to do? Reduce the value of her own personal achievements of ambition and hard commitment over time ... for one thing.

Well, you told us.  The second instance, she actually relaxed for a few moments to go right back into it. 

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Loyal,  In the book I posted,

Loyal, 

In the book I posted, Herbal Antibiotics, Natural Alternatives for treating Drug-Resistant Bacteria, Stephen Buhner lists these for staph-caused skin infections:
usnea, cryptolepsis, eucalyptus, wormwood, sage, grapefruit seed extract and honey

So Manuka Honey should work although he says other honey's will be effective. .

I would second oil of oregano and tea tree oil but I wouldn't put it on "neat" directly form the bottle.   I'd put it in a carrier oil. 

Orally, you would need to find herbs that are systemic in their action.  That means they would circulate to the extremities. These are less known herbs, and a bit more difficult to get but I'm sure they are around at the major wholesale carriers at least some of them.  

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Thank you for posting the entire interview, the longer version actually tells a different story than the shorter one.

Both participants are extremely confident in their positions, oh and,

Ruffian,

I take back the bimbo remark, the short version was out of context. She is a very skilled debater, highly combative, but simply has an ideology that is stuck on stupid.  She is dangerous to highly impressionable people. I could picture her in a penguin costume, fucking up little children's minds for life. devil

What I  saw at the time stamps that AM suggested, was the woman drawing conclusions to the man's prior statements, that significantly changed the meaning of what he actually said.  

Green Lantern has accused me of doing that on multiple occasions. However, in those instances, particularly when you get into definitions of government, and its moral underpinnings, I was restating his assertions using my own terminology intentionally, to point out  the  long term implications of his arguments   in actuality, and not philosophically.

All the professor in the video had to do was restate what was originally said, and how the conclusions she drew had no basis in reality.

That was allowed to stand, because her conclusions had no basis in reality.

It literally took days, and clarifying terminology over, and over again, before there was any resolution in one particular discussion between me and Green Lantern. 

I mean seriously, how often does Plato's Republic get redefined?

Now, if it's a debate between a Bible thumper, and me, it ends quickly, because they have no basis in reality whatsoever.

I would have loved to have debated the professor on hierarchy, his assertions went completely unchallenged, because apparently, they both agree that hierarchical constructs are given to us by nature, and we are hardwired for hierarchy.

The fact of the matter is, hierarchical constructs have been handed to us by a dark occult Priest craft through religion, and is enforced by morally bankrupt mother fucking morons who can't think for themselves, and mindlessly follow orders.

Governments are just the enforcement mechanism of the religions that created the hierarchies.

I stand by my assertion that human beings were designed to be self-governing, and individually sovereign.

Did anyone notice that the professor was arguing how dangerous group identity is? He actually argued in one place in that interview that identity politics leads to genocide, when in fact, every hierarchy creates its own group identity.

You can't have it both ways.

What I did enjoy, was the fact that both participants seemed to genuinely enjoy the interaction with each other.

Kind of reminiscent of me and Greeny going at it.  

I'm glad I watched the whole thing, and not for the subject matter, but because of the skill sets on display.

You see, in real life, it would be very hard for me to pull off a debate like that, because I have to ponder things for a while, and work them through  in my mind. This is a format that allows for that.

I strongly suspect that if I had to go up against Greeny on live television, I would get creamed.

I wouldn't even become conscious of my replies until the ride home. 

Gosh, I do need some practice.

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SteveW wrote: Birds almost

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Birds almost certainly evolved from a group of dinosaurs that had feathers.

almost certainly?   Sounds like there is some wiggle room in that almost certain postulate that something else became something else.  

We found alot of bones from alot of dinosaurs that look like alot of bones of birds today.   However we are missing 10 million years of time lapsed photography to make such leaps of faith, but if we repeat the postulate a 100 times, by a 100 different scientist in a 100 government sponsored science institutions, it by golly does sound more certain. 

Doesn't sound certain to me. 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/

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Mr. Fix wrote:She is a very

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She is a very skilled debater, highly combative, but simply has an ideology that is stuck on stupid.  She is dangerous to highly impressionable people. I could picture her in a penguin costume, fucking up little children's minds for life. devil

What I  saw at the time stamps that AM suggested, was the woman drawing conclusions to the man's prior statements, that significantly changed the meaning of what he actually said.  

She SUCKED at debating.  He was excellent although the entire dialogue was annoying to watch.   

If the goal of a debate is to convince the opposing side of your point of view, or negotiate, a middle ground.  She lost big time.  He didn't change nothing.  She did. 

She spoke at a fast rate that alone is an indicator that she is angry, upset, frustrated.  He maintained a steady rhythm.   I would have brought my voice down a bit lower.  Because you can't see the beginning, it's hard to tell who crossed the legs first.  

However, by the end of the debate, he is leaning way back in that chair as in, get me away from her.  

He was arguing from a place of strength and she weakness, hence her need to interrupt, throw questions quickly one after the other.   

She'd be very bad at kung fu.  He was able to use her force against her.   

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Mr. Fix wrote: you're going

Mr. Fix wrote:

you're going to keep using the animal kingdom as an analogy to human behavior, you're just as fucked up as that professor comparing us to lobsters. 

Natural law is only applicable to sentient beings capable of interacting with the conscious field that we are a part of.

Consider me as fucked up as the Professor.  How do you know natural law is only applicable to sentient beings?   How do you know what animals are conscious of and what they are not conscious of?   Have you ever read anything on Plant awareness or animal awareness?   

All life interacts with the field.  The field is consciousness, however, even we humans are not conscious how we are effecting the field.  

I assert the laws that govern life on this planet apply to all life.  Did you know that plants and minerals are governed by the same planetary forces as we are?  That would mean they are subject to the same astrological forces as human's.   I could name other spiritual laws that they are governed by but it would get complicated.  And many of the ancient spiritual scriptures I've read consider that animals are soul just like humans. 

When I speak of hierarchal, I speak in a much broader way that conscious behavior.  Untold millions of plants in a jungle are part of a hierarchal system.  Animal systems have their hierarchies within their breeds, species, and genus.  We even label things according to a hierarchy system.  

Computers are programed with hierarchies.   Your internal organs act in accordance with hierarchal systems.  

I can think of nothing, no living organism, no systems that mimic anarchy.  

But you're saying to me because all these things in nature (created by a higher power) are not humans, we cannot make the assumption that we were intended to be governed by hierarchal?  Hierarchies of authority of control.  Yes.  Hierarchies of spiritual consciousness is different.  The most enlightened man gets to be king.  And that wouldn't be bad at all if you consider just how high a human being could go in understanding all things divine. 

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Oh by the way

I went back and watched the Scott Adams analysis of the debate, and I might have to watch the video again, to count 12 times he thinks the professor put the reporter into a state of cognitive dissonance.

He literally short-circuited her brain.

Scott Adams thinks he did it skillfully, intentionally, and enjoyed every minute of it.

She never knew what hit her.

Life debating is an entirely different thing than what we do here.

Now that I have watched the Scott Adams analysis, I'm going to have to watch that debate again, to see if I can see what he saw.

The reporter didn't get to where she's at by sucking at what she does. I would venture to say that her style usually pummels her opponent.

One thing that this clued me into, is that I need a lot more exposure to Scott Adams.

I think I'm going to subscribe to his channel now.

I think I get what he gets at the emotional level  most of the time, but I most certainly do not possess the skill set required to accomplish what the professor did.

Green Lantern, you do possess that skill set.

And you've been posting those videos along, which I skipped more often than not.

My bad. crying

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There is a spiritual

There is a spiritual hierarchy.  That would be a long post. Nahh. 

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Mr. Fix wrote: I think I get

Mr. Fix wrote:

I think I get what he gets at the emotional level  most of the time, but I most certainly do not possess the skill set required to accomplish what the professor did.

While I watched it a couple of times, and that's it, I didn't see that he was using Donald Trump level persuasion skills.  

He had a mastery of his subject.  Just keep it to the men/women thing.  The lobster thing and evolution was a tangent that triggered my associative memory thinking about Chinese lobster ginger/scallion)

He stayed calm, and found a couple opportunities where she had to reconsider her point.  

Honestly, I would have wanted to leave the studio or I'd try to pace and lead on an unconscious level to see if I could calm her down.  Since he was a psychologist I was looking for it, you know lifting the glass, using same visual or kinesthetic reference systems, breathing etc....

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Green Lantern,

I try to amend that last post, but it wouldn't let me.

The level of Consciousness, the degree of consciousness, does have karmic implications, as to exactly how accountable or shall we say morally culpable an individual is under natural law.

Now admittedly, these are assertions that I ripped completely out of one of Mark Passio's presentations, but more importantly, I'm trying to quantify the difference scientifically, not philosophically.

Let's just say that your conscious connection to the universe is much stronger than that of a lobster, and the rules for a lobster are different then the rules for a consciously aware human.

It probably has something to do with the frequency band available, as well as the actual processing power of the brain.

Let's use a silly analogy that I am just making up as I go...

Let's imagine that the Universal consciousness is the NSA.

The lobster is a 350 million-year-old black and white TV,

A human being is a brand-new state-of-the-art fully gadgeted big-screen Smart TV with all of the latest surveillance equipment.

Now, from that perspective, how much effect can the NSA actually have on the 350 million year old lobster?

And how much can it have on a fully functioning human being?

Belief systems also play into this, 

So does the capacity for the DNA to tune into a specific frequency set.

There is literally no way to hold the lobster accountable to a moral code, same for a tree, a plant, or a rock.

I'm not arguing that they are unconscious, or don't have some sense of consciousness,

But they don't have A  CONSCIENCE or, the capacity to determine right behavior from wrong behavior. They run on instinct alone.

There is a difference. 

I'll get a better explanation for you when I find one.

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Green Lantern,

We are largely in agreement, but as Abguy4 pointed out in the ant collective analogy,

While most people think the "Queen" creates an ant hierarchy, there isn't actually any chain of command, and they just work as a collective, through individual effort towards the same goal. Nobody's higher on the food chain then anyone else.

I think some of your comparisons to human body parts for example, work the same way, where one system isn't any more important or has authority over another system, they are just built to function as a whole.

Is the heart in charge of the brain? Or is the brain in charge of the heart? Couldn't you say that they have a symbiotic relationship, and are mutually interdependent on each other?

I am primarily talking the hierarchical construct where all those that produce, are ruled by all those that do not.

You can remove a high level parasite from a hierarchy, and the system actually functions better. 

The more parasites you remove, the better the system functions. For optimum performance, simply remove all the parasites.

How long would  a system survive without a brain, or without a heart? How about a stomach, a kidney, a liver, or a pancreas?

Remove any of them, and the system will cease to function.

I reject that as an example of hierarchy.

Yes, there is a spiritual hierarchy, but before you get started on that, allow me to point out there aren't any parasites in that one either. 

Religions are specifically designed to keep people from climbing  that hierarchy. They placed the parasites between the individuals, and their potential for spiritual growth.

Once again, you remove the parasites, and the system will function as intended.

A true spiritual leader is not a parasitical money hungry baby fucking thug. 

But that's what religion gives us.

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Mr. Fix wrote: There is

Mr. Fix wrote:

There is literally no way to hold the lobster accountable to a moral code, same for a tree, a plant, or a rock.

I'm not arguing that they are unconscious, or don't have some sense of consciousness,

But they don't have A  CONSCIENCE or, the capacity to determine right behavior from wrong behavior. They run on instinct alone.

There is a difference. 

I'll get a better explanation for you when I find one.

Animals dream.  Animals of unconscious fears and patterns and we are finding out some animals know from right and wrong.  Probably plenty of those studies to review on line. 

It's likely that a tree, a lobster, or plant does not have enough choices to make bad decisions.  There are people who say they can talk to tree's.  I don't have that skill.  And ALOT of people say they have had inner conversations with their animals. 

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Yeah, if we could only talk to animals.

That's why we've got Ruffian.

I'd really like her assessment on how well horses follow the "Golden Rule", or if she feels they even have the capacity to do so.

Do horses form hierarchies? Do they see themselves as free agents?

Do horses force other horses into submission through violence?

Do horses form family structures? Do the old ones teach the young ones?

You could probably learn a lot from a horse.

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Speaking of parasitical hierarchies,

"No Deal" - Government Shutdown Inevitable, Blamescaping Begins

Despite last minute 'compromise' meetings, and continued "hopes" from various sides, The Senate failed to reach the 60 votes necessary to keep the government funded (even for a stopgap) and so,as of midnight tonight, the government will shut down. smileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmileysmiley

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Greeny, you've got to read this one...

You touched on how lower life forms really don't have all that many choices,

But this article has many pretty good concepts on how our choices play out, and how the universe responds to free will.

It ties spiritual traditions to quantum physics, and if there's synchronicity in this universe, it just so happened to be posted under the government shutdown article.

You're going to love it.

Riz Virk Explains Why Quantum Physics, AI, & Eastern Mystics All Agree We Are Living In A Video Game

"An MIT trained computer scientist and Silicon Valley video game designer gives 10 reasons for the 'Simulation Hypothesis': that our reality is a simulated, pixelated 3d world where we all have individual xp, levels, and quests run by some giant Artificial Intelligence..."

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I love the video game analogy for a whole bunch of reasons. It's a great way to connect real science, with real spirituality

This article leaves out one important aspect of the game. The game has rules. They are the natural laws.

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@LW watch this. Hope it helps

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/how-to-stop-chronic-mrsa/

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