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Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 1:39am
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Laverne is drunk as a skunk....

in this post - so I am advising strong user discretion..... ( and she is intellectually very lonely too - which is why this post is even typed in the first place.....)

Why drunk as a skunk? I have been battling a severe throat infection with good nutrition and heavy application of Vit C's as per ag1969 good advice etc. for a fortnight now, with waning results, and now (somewhat unfortunately) I have resorted to the ultimate ancestral medicinal remedy - cumin schnapps! So my sincere apologies for the aftermath in advance ;-) 

(However, someone once told me that truth should be told from children and drunk people, so here we go........)

AM - you are wonderfully mindblowing in the best sense of the word! Yet - you make me terribly vexed with with your persistence on being so damn enigmatic! And I am certainly not intellectually lazy. I have really been trying to follow..... but "don't play too hard to get" as we say amongst the female population of the planet ;-)

Anyhoo, you have been wondering about synchronicity with JC Collins. Well, in my current state of mind, I will spill the beans for me. I am an absolute complete nobody compared to you! But - nonetheless- there is a strange kind of synchronicity with you and me too. This is the third - maybe forth time I have noticed and it is getting weird. 

The first time - I forget.

The second time - I had just researched the financial crashes going back to the tulip mania and shortly thereafter you made a video about Armstrong and his referring to financial crashes as a basis for his 8,6 cycle business.... and you said he knew better and the crashes were just an excuse. (I wrote you about this) However, I had just done the same - before your video lead - and found a 72 and 81 year connection to the crashes going waaaaay back - so something was definitely working - even if he "knew better". Based on that I found perfectly matching summarized legs within 144 period, 152 and 156 periods. On one of these occasion I was able to calculate detailed future legs based on a number derived from Pi (Brain explosion followed....).

Third time was the magnificent waves - admittedly out there but you know what I mean - but I was pointed to a piece of particular art - just at the very moment of receiving that info I was in the middle of researching (again) the flood myths of Christianity and Sumer etc. 

The forth time was the recent 360 - 60 - 12+1 business. I had just completed a round of research into the 1 minute chart of EUR/USD. I had found the 6- 36- 216 connection (=666 mark of the beast formula which includes the 180-144-108-72 etc.) and then you post your circle 360 - sun - vernal equinox - video - and my mind blows up once again.

On the surface you operate on the relationship with the ancient monuments and the sun etc. and I am operating on the one minute chart of a currency pair with 6 as basic cycle morphing into 36+4 morphing into 6x36 plus 24 to form a basic cycle. So when Gann - or whoever it was (sorry-schnapps brain) - saying 40 - he was right - because it is 36+4 on the visual grid - not the calculated grid. And when you say 12+1 it is correct because it is actually 12,5ish - times 2 - on the visual grid - so that anyone trying to find the tops and bottoms will find a 13 period - which is in fact two 12 + 1 sharing the one to confuse the spectators..... The visual grid is just moving by 4 for every basic element. (For evidence of this - look at the Gold Weekly chart with 65 days clear spike bottoms (=60 days but the weekly will yield 65 days - ish) You will find almost perfect 65 day intervals turning into perfect 12+1 with 1 shared between two 12 periods, if that makes sense, all the way back to the 1999 25. aug sept bottom iircc- and beyond). 

Speculation / mind haze : The market is the true calendar. We just have visual grid movement to accommodate for the movement in relation to Official 24 hour calendar - to weekly - to monthly - when the true calendar is 36 hours of 40 minutes hours and it will match the equinoxes and solstices perfectly in that way. Of course it will also accommodate the equinoxes at 90 days nicely, but when using the 36 hour day - it will fit equinoxes at 60 days. I haven't figured out to factor in the Summertime - Wintertime yet - but I am sure this is esoterically done to allow quicker alignment with the true calendar - than to require two rounds or more if Equinoxes to balance the calendar before all systems meet in equilibrium. If this sounds like total gibberish - it probably is - it is work in progress - but I feel sure it will eventually make sense in the end - once the schnapps evaporates....... (For those who are able to follow the gibberish - I am using a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 hour cycle to ascertain when they meet/align again - and they do on equinoxes after 2 cycles - if I recall correctly - but as I said WIP......

One this is clear to me though - the markets operates in 36 cycles (6-36-216) - which means this will tally with the movements of the universe as per AM - in ways I have not clarified yet - but in ways AM has begun to hint at - so pay attention guys! - the recent video - in the usual vexing enigmatic fashion - provided very profound clues - not only to the markets - but to the calendar of man and the universe as well. Nothing less..... 

Boy, this forum (and others) continues to be very exiting indeed ;-) Even for drunk denizens such as myself at present moment ;-) 

Thank you all so much for your contributions - the process of discovery and learning is worth everything ;-D

God bless you all!!. Before I never thought God was real - but T-ville "fringe" forums showed me, how wrong I was. So much to learn ;-) So much to learn ;-) Thank You All.

Foggyroad and Bugzy - If you see this - Love to you guys to pieces as well - one for humorous kindness carrying faith and one for brutal honesty on behalf of truth and freedom - you guys rock! ;-)

Good night y'all - If you didn't get this post at all - no worries - twasnt very easily accessible anyway ;-) 

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 3:00am (Reply to #8632)
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I dont

i Don't Need to be inebriated to be at a loss here at tf metals. Brutal honesty is brutal God is real , however he feels no compulsion to abide by my constructs. Nice to hear your lovely type LL.:)

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 12:37pm
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Well

that was embarrassing, as they say. A case of "button-press-regrets". I was just in a very uppedy good mood because of recent findings and from deep relief that this painful throat had finally started to improve....

So my sincere apologies, AM and all, for cluttering the thread with yesterdays ... uhm ... outburst! The main point was concerning odd synchronicity, I have noticed several times, and that observation stands, though. 

PS - @ SamSchlepps - Thank you for your reply elsewhere. That was very interesting too.

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@LLActually thanks for

@LL

Actually thanks for posting that stream of consciousness!

I posted first a long reply this morning, and subsequently a second shorter reply, only for both to disappear when I hit "send" (comm lines are dire here today) so third time lucky with this.

Just to say that there were various ways I considered doing that topic. I make a few attempts and deleted them before settling on the videos you saw and heard.

I could have just said "here is this big economic cycle" and we would all have moved on with the implications untouched. I think the way I explained it everybody got a lot more than just seeing a big cycle in stocks. I'm pleased that you did. But that doesn't happen without spending some time rolling the ideas around inside your head, and taking pen and paper and writing down some numbers to see how they fit around and into each other. So I know you put the effort in and are getting the rewards you earned.

Take care and get well soon.

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Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 1:55pm
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Trendlines on charts and sentiment inside us

As gold rises in the present rally excitement is building among gold bugs. So is that a new bull or not?
I don't like to choose. I have looked for a substantial rally from each significant low after Q3 last year, and this is the second such.

What I see is gold bugs getting excited as a steeply descending trendline is breached, and a minor horizontal TL is subsequently breached. The psyche of the retail gold long positioned cohort seems linked to proximity of price to the trendlines. Which is to say the trendline on the chart reflects their sentiment and where and when it will change.

And there is another less steeply descending trendline located quite a bit above the gold price still to be taken out if this rally is to climb out of daily-weekly and into weekly-monthly scale.

So what will trigger the nest alteration of emotion inside the gold bugs heads? Next price level please!

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Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 2:46pm
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Trading crew

is bearish as ever. This is fantastic news. They will never turn bullish. Sentiment has permanently been crushed. this is the way it is supposed to be.

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 2:49pm
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Current gold price action

I am taking it as an interim profit-taking opportunity, scaled down accordingly for caution. I want it to be the start of a new bull, but it could be another bull trap. Here are the noteworthy points, as I see them:

  1. I believe that the cartel habitually likes a brief spike up, so that it can stifle sentiment for the next 12 months by a grindingly slow but steady decline. Rinse repeat; flat price over the long term, but 90% of the duration involves seeming decline. Bearish.
  2. The higher and faster the price rises, the more vulnerable we are to a smash. Bearish.
  3. The relentless inching forward of the price, over days, smacks of short covering. Bearish.
  4. What with all these esoteric fan lines and technicals, sometimes a new resistance point has to be set up, to stop the old lines going off the page and wearing out, just as the lower of the two lines are doing in Argentus' chart above. Setting up new fan lines requires a brief spike up which can handily also be used to fleece the bulls again. Bearish.

However: there are some noteworthy bullish features of this rise:

  1. In the other main currencies, the gold price is generating an increasingly bullish posture. Any higher from here, and in every currency around the world other than the dollar, the gold picture is not only looking increasingly a winner again, but any comex smashes will have to go very deep indeed, to address those non-dollar charts. I am looking at 5 year charts, basically since the 2011 top, and what I see is this:
    1. In AUD, we have rarely been this high, and we just took out stiff horizontal resistance.
    2. In CHF, we are near the top of a two year horizontal channel.
    3. In CAD, the charts look bullish.
    4. In EUR, the lowest lows are now well in the rear view mirror, being Dec 2013 at 859 Euro.
    5. In JPY, we've been essentially flat for 4 years. Neither bullish nor bearish; the 5 year chart is neutral.
    6. In GBP, we are up nearly 20% just five weeks into the year, and as with the swiss franc, are close to a breakout zone.
  2. As Turd pointed out, the rising gold price would appear to be driven by, and shielded by, a rising yen. The Yen:USD technicals suggest a further strengthening of the Yen, and therefore gold. This will trigger a bull market in gold in various non dollar currencies; we are close. The Japanese announced NIRP and yet their currency strengthened; what more can they do to weaken it; are there any bullets left?
  3. All that Comex stuff, a 500:1 ratio of phys to open interest. Maybe the day has come?
  4. The lame-stream excuse for the 1980 gold price spike of $850, was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, being a major jolt to assumptions of US supremacy. Today, we have a despairing Kerry trying to stall the fall of ISIS / Aleppo with peace talks; another major blow to US standing at the hands of the Russians, on a par with Afghanistan. Russians in Afghanistan, updated to Russians in the Shia crescent, cutting the middle east in half, and with the house of Saud in deep trouble. This is my own esoterica, but it is on my mind; the gold price might be connected somehow to these things....maybe.

well, I am struggling to decide where from here, but those are my thoughts. GLTA.

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 2:56pm
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@ broker 22

Algorithms have no sentiment, and they drive the price. Their logic has been selling gold for 5 years already.

Stackers do not sell their phys, they only pause buying. And even while the west was actively buying, they were but a footnote to Asian demand for phys, which never stopped.

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 3:27pm (Reply to #8634)
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Brilliant

LL your post was brilliant ! 

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 4:08pm
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Thanks AM

Thank you AM for your reply ;-)

1) That was a shame with the lost posts - I lost a few over time as well and learned the hard way that "copy-to-clipboard-before-send-is-your-friend.

2) You videos were great! I did not mean to sound as if I am criticizing - it is more a testament to my own frustration about my lack of capacity to "get it" sometimes and then sitting there with a juicy carrot dangling right in front of my nose - juuuust out of reach - it is easier to complain that the teacher is not moving the carrot ever so slightly closer - instead of complaining that my arms are not growing long enough fast enough.... or something along those lines ;-)

3) For me these recent postings/videos of yours are much bigger than "just another big cycle". Much. I had been working on the 6-36-216 idea and other related stuff, I did not mention above, for at least 14 days before you posted the JC Collins post. The context to understand my joy is that I have been poking at gaining more insight into markets and related subjects from different angles (financial, historic, religious, cosmos etc.) over and over again ever since I came to this site years ago. I have found many interesting pieces on the way - but I always lost the thread during these commando raids - and I always ended up with just a pile of seemingly unrelated and messy jigsaw pieces and a thoroughly exploded head.

Every time I lost the thread without any solid conclusions after many days of trying to figure stuff out would be extremely frustrating and I have gone through many many attempts. Then all of a sudden last time when I was doing the minute chart analysis - it started to make pieces found during the last 1-1,5 years fit in the picture, instead of just adding new confusing pieces to the picture, and several things started to make sense. I was still scared that I would lose the thread once again (and I eventually did) but the clarity stayed much longer than normal. When I did lose it, it felt like I should just pick up exactly where I left it, when the head would start working again, because it was a valid thread and not another dead-end. But a mini doubt remained....

Then you post your posts and continuation in the videos - playing along those very same lines - confirming that the track was correct. Man! That was such a delight after so many failed attempts and so much wool in the head! I am not pretending to have figured it all out - not even close - but it was just so gratifying after hours and hours of work to see that someone like you are working with the same numbers and hearing about the context - from a different angle than my own.

So utterly cool! Thank You ;-)

Tue, Feb 9, 2016 - 6:10pm
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AM

Speaking of https://youtu.be/x1Lc7t9bprArythms our mate Mike Maloney

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LL

Check this out:

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/650422#comment-650422

I have tumeric root and horseradish root arriving today so I can brew my own batch. Probably not as fun as Schnapps, but based on the ingredients list I would say far more effective.

Cheers!

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 10:15am
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#LL wonderful post, you are

#LL wonderful post, you are on to something, great for you and a great inspiration for me.

I am to lazy to even start to scratch the surface. I work 50h per week with a lot of travel and then family stuff, I have 7books to read, only went through a couple of pages so far. I need a new computer with a trading studio, now with my outdated laptop it feels like a boxing match against Mike Tyson with my arms tied to my back. I will start up my full time trading career in 2019 and become an expert in cycles for sure. I know myself pretty good by now I am +40years, I've always struggled with the first threshold in school, in military and at work etc.There is a built in resistance, acceptance to new knowledge, but after a while, watch out.

The latest rally was easy to time both buy and sell, I've been waiting for this to unfold for three months now, a kindergarten ew pattern present in the 15min chart. I made a quick couple of dollares.My gut feel tells me there is more power in this bear bull. My profit was $3141 and $1618, hmm these numbers seem familiar to me. Is it a new leg up in progress?

Argentus Maximus has pulled my ear a couple of times not to expose our knowledge too much. I think i suffer from tourette light (as well as aspergers light/social light phobia) I just couldn't resist to end this post with the wiz himself,

An Introduction to Gann’s Square of 9

I soon began to note the periodical reoccurrence of the rise and fall of bananas and apples. This led me to conclude that natural law was the basis of banana movements. I then decided to a devote 10 years of my life to the study of natural law, as applicable to the speculative bananas and to devote my best energies toward making speculation a profitable pear /Solsson Ganngannstyle

​I just love fruit, keeps you healthy !

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 1:28pm
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@ Solsson

With your alluded to forbidden knowledge, and referencing your chart, can you advise whether the gap between 1175 and 1182 is one that will have to be revisited, and more interestingly, the one at 1165? Cheers Byz

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 3:01pm
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#Byz The "forbidden"

#Byz

The "forbidden" knowledge has nothing to do with the chart, but yes both short term, mid term and long term it's possible to reach these levels.

Honestly I don't know.

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 3:32pm
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It's hip to be square

Ok, 12 is an important number, what about 90?

If you divide a circle in 4 you get 90° a square angle

what about 12+1, is it possible to sum x+1=90?

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 3:51pm
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@ Wy So Lo, Apearl, Ag1969 and Solsson 

Thank you all for your replies ;-)

@Ag1969 - Firecider! That sounds feisty. I already had ginger and garlic on hand for anti-inflammatory purposes, and Jalapenos and Cayenne from the garden, but I am so going to try that Firecider too. I know it will be difficult finding horse radish though, because I normally use it for regular dishes, and they don't cook the same things here, but I will have a go at it again. Thanks a lot for the recipe!

@ Solsson - Congrats on the winnings!. You managed to do a lot better than me today then. I have only just started dipping my toes in with the trading sharks a few days ago after a looong thinking-back-to-the-drawing-board exercise - and today I managed to lose a cool 66 USD. And then I managed to foresee not one but two nice moves that I managed to NOT pull the trigger on. Especially the last one was a real stinger, because I had it pinned like a pin-cushion, and still I hesitated long enough for the train to leave the station. So all in all - it could be worse - but it could also be a lot better. The thing you say about early learning curves - and tipping points with acceleration resonates with me. As they say - Tomorrow is another (trading) day ;-) Now back to doing homework.

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Solsson wrote:what about

Solsson wrote:
what about 12+1, is it possible to sum x+1=90?

89 is the eleventh number in the fibonacci sequence...

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Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 5:49pm (Reply to #8649)
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argentus maximus

argentus maximus wrote:
89 is the eleventh number in the fibonacci sequence...
Yes that's correct, but you are disqualified Sir, you are the expert haha

​I did some research this evening and I found something that was breathtaking, I ended up here:

Panic of 1837

Whig cartoon showing the effects of unemployment on a family that has Jackson's and Van Buren's portraits on the wall

An 1837 caricature blames Andrew Jackson for hard times

The Panic of 1837 was a financial crisis in the United States that touched off a major recession that lasted until the mid-1840s. Profits, prices, and wages went down while unemployment went up. Pessimism abounded during the time. The panic had both domestic and foreign origins. Speculative lending practices in western states, a sharp decline in cotton prices, a collapsing land bubble, international specie flows, and restrictive lending policies in Great Britain were all to blame.[1][2] On May 10, 1837, banks in New York City suspended specie payments, meaning that they would no longer redeem commercial paper in specie at full face value. Despite a brief recovery in 1838, the recession persisted for approximately seven years. Banks collapsed, businesses failed, prices declined, and thousands of workers lost their jobs. Unemployment may have been as high as 25% in some locales. The years 1837 to 1844 were, generally speaking, years of deflation in wages and prices

Oh my goodness, does not that sound familiar? You do the math, the answer is consciously posted in #8634.

Wed, Feb 10, 2016 - 6:26pm (Reply to #8650)
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re: Panic of 1837

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bank_of_the_United_States

I believe Andrew Jackson's paying off the national debt and killing the central bank were both good things. I believe the civil war was egged on by european banking interests to weaken the United States and force both it and the Confederate States to be debtors again. Imagine unemployment numbers if we succeeded in "End The Fed"!

A bit off topic for AM's cycles.. 

The First Bank Mar 1791- (Feb?) 1811

The Second Bank Feb 1816- Jan 1836

The FED Dec 1913 - ?

Robert Anton Wilson said a clever numerologist can make any numbers you give them appear significant. Perhaps the cycle guys can give us an end date for the FED?

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